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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on April 19, 2022, 05:11:37 AM

Title: Police and crime
Post by: Rush on April 19, 2022, 05:11:37 AM
This is a fantastic discussion of the whole police, crime, racism situation in America.  It’s an hour and a half and worth every minute, that is, if you do like me and put on ear buds and get work done while you listen.  I never sit there and stare at a video like this, lol.

This presents all points of view: why blacks hate and mistrust police, why the police screw up so many altercations with the public (spoiler alert: lack of training) what the solution might be (spoiler alert: NOT defunding them!  But also redirect them away from routine non-dangerous traffic stops and focus on crime.).  You might think more black cops is the answer but surprise: the black community views them as traitors. This guy’s life (the law enforcement vet who’s mission is to build a better relationship between cops and the public) is actually in danger because of that, so you have blacks who would like to become police officers but who are afraid to.

They discuss the recent Patrick Loyola killing which perfectly illustrates how many police are inadequately trained and out of shape which he claims was the cause of that tragic result.  (After watching the bodycam footage, I have to agree.)

It also highlights how one of the biggest problems is the media skewed reporting implying white cops shoot black people exclusively and fail to report on the reverse, or, the fact that millions upon millions of cop-public interactions happen without any incident so in reality cops are actually doing their jobs well and bad outcomes are very rare.

They get into police corruption, how and why the police become corrupt and do things like plant evidence.  It’s very balanced.  Not all police are good and not all are bad.  What is the solution?  Spoiler alert:  Police departments have no transparency.  It’s easy to cover up corruption.  When they go bad, they investigate themselves.  We need citizen oversight.

Oh, the biggest surprise and I won’t spoil it:  The terrible unintended consequence of not going after shoplifters and looters: the consequence to the criminal himself.



Title: Re: Police and crime
Post by: Anthony on April 19, 2022, 05:28:03 AM
The inner-city Black Community is largely Racist, willing to parrot the Democrat narrative and is OK with illegal drugs, gangs and violence because it is their brothers, fathers
and friends committing the crimes.  In addition, they are soft on crime, especially with sentencing, so city DA's give little or no jail time to violent career criminals (multiple, gun charge FELONS) in order to placate the Black Community.  So, repeat offenders are the NORM.  Yes, this is a large, seeping generalization, so there are a FEW exceptions.  The Black Community is f*cked.  Mostly due to their own fault.
Title: Re: Police and crime
Post by: Rush on April 19, 2022, 06:01:49 AM
The inner-city Black Community is largely Racist, willing to parrot the Democrat narrative and is OK with illegal drugs, gangs and violence because it is their brothers, fathers
and friends committing the crimes.  In addition, they are soft on crime, especially with sentencing, so city DA's give little or no jail time to violent career criminals (multiple, gun charge FELONS) in order to placate the Black Community.  So, repeat offenders are the NORM.  Yes, this is a large, seeping generalization, so there are a FEW exceptions.  The Black Community is f*cked.  Mostly due to their own fault.

No they are not “f*cked” because of people exactly like these guys: black males stepping up to fix the problem because black females a) can’t b) won’t and c) are largely the cause of the problem.  Whites can’t do it because any show of white authority is automatically “racist”.  A HUGE part of the problem is the media which fuels black perception that it’s all whitey’s fault and blacks really have no power except to violently riot. 

That’s why it’s so important we support and promote alternative media and critical thinking like what these guys are doing as opposed to mainstream groupthink about systemic racism, subconscious micro aggressions and other destructive rhetoric that centers on identifying and judging each other by group and not as individuals.

Theses guys talk about judging people as individuals by their character, not by race or by job.  The black policeman is hated and rejected by blacks because he is a policeman, and they don’t bother to get to know him as an individual.  Being a policeman is so bad it trumps his race.

You are right about the soft on crime, the judges and prosecutors are starting to fear giving harsh sentences to blacks because it will be viewed as racist.  They make the point that blacks DO get harsher sentences than whites, but when you see those statistics you have to find out if they take into account priors. 

The other thing happening is that Covid has backed up the courts so badly that courts are canceling the requirement to show up at all, or the backlog is so long it exceeds the “speedy trial” right, and so they’re dismissing cases.  These criminals experience no consequences which ramps up their activity, yet another horrific consequence of lunatic lockdown policy.
Title: Re: Police and crime
Post by: Anthony on April 19, 2022, 06:09:26 AM
^^^^^, these Black, Male freedom fighters are very, very small in number and no way will they gain traction nor turn the tide within the Black Community or now majority Leftist, Metro area populace.  Yes, they are f*cked. 
Title: Re: Police and crime
Post by: Mr Pou on April 19, 2022, 06:36:21 AM
The way I see it is many black males take care of justice on their own. Someone shoots your buddy, you don't narc to the cops, you shoot the guy who killed your buddy. But then his buddy shoots you, and the circle of black violence continues.
Title: Re: Police and crime
Post by: Rush on April 19, 2022, 06:43:47 AM
^^^^^, these Black, Male freedom fighters are very, very small in number and no way will they gain traction nor turn the tide within the Black Community or now majority Leftist, Metro area populace.  Yes, they are f*cked.

Numbers don’t count, influence does.

Besides, the stats are showing that blacks are waking up:

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/594046-black-voters-are-fleeing-biden-in-droves-heres-why/

Although it’s a long way between turning your back on Biden and correcting the root cause of inner city crime.  Black females have gone along with feminism, bolstered by welfare, we don’t need no stinkin man.  That is plaguing ALL races. 
Title: Re: Police and crime
Post by: Username on April 19, 2022, 08:02:30 AM
Yep.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-americans-paid-enormous-price-for-defund-the-police-movement
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In 2019, at least 7,484 Black Americans were murdered. That number shot up to at least 9,941 murders in 2020, meaning there was an increase of 2,457 Black Americans murdered over the previous year.

The number of Black murders was also far higher than White murders in 2020. The FBI data shows there 7,043 White people murdered that year, meaning 2,898 more Black people were killed compared to Whites.

Between 2010 and 2019, there was an average of 5,954 White murders, which is roughly 16% lower than the 10-year average of Black murders. During that same time period, an average of 6,927 Black Americans were murdered each year, meaning Black murders shot up by 43% in 2020 compared to the previous 10-year average.
Title: Re: Police and crime
Post by: nddons on April 20, 2022, 09:38:39 AM

The other thing happening is that Covid has backed up the courts so badly that courts are canceling the requirement to show up at all, or the backlog is so long it exceeds the “speedy trial” right, and so they’re dismissing cases.  These criminals experience no consequences which ramps up their activity, yet another horrific consequence of lunatic lockdown policy.

I think a more accurate assessment is that Covid gave the soft on crime judges, prosecutors, DAs, and mayors the EXCUSE to eliminate the consequences for illegal behavior. The country went through 2 months of lockdowns in Q2 of 2020 - two full years ago. Since then the courts should have been able to clear through any backlog and begin administering justice. The reality is they have no interest in administering justice at any time, ever again.
Title: Re: Police and crime
Post by: Rush on April 20, 2022, 09:47:21 AM
I think a more accurate assessment is that Covid gave the soft on crime judges, prosecutors, DAs, and mayors the EXCUSE to eliminate the consequences for illegal behavior. The country went through 2 months of lockdowns in Q2 of 2020 - two full years ago. Since then the courts should have been able to clear through any backlog and begin administering justice. The reality is they have no interest in administering justice at any time, ever again.

Those soft on crime people need to be thrown out of office.  Yeah, I won’t hold my breath.
Title: Re: Police and crime
Post by: Anthony on April 20, 2022, 11:05:07 AM
I think a more accurate assessment is that Covid gave the soft on crime judges, prosecutors, DAs, and mayors the EXCUSE to eliminate the consequences for illegal behavior. The country went through 2 months of lockdowns in Q2 of 2020 - two full years ago. Since then the courts should have been able to clear through any backlog and begin administering justice. The reality is they have no interest in administering justice at any time, ever again.

Our Justice System is only interested in generating revenue through court costs, fines, fees, lawyer fees and any other way to justify bloated salaries, benefits, pensions, overtime,  etc.