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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: elwood blues on March 20, 2024, 08:50:09 AM

Title: More Racism
Post by: elwood blues on March 20, 2024, 08:50:09 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/black-leaders-in-tennessee-say-it-s-racist-to-stop-black-crime/ss-BB1kdosQ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=3c026c59326d42dda98d1ddc909a0272&ei=24#image=3#comments (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/black-leaders-in-tennessee-say-it-s-racist-to-stop-black-crime/ss-BB1kdosQ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=3c026c59326d42dda98d1ddc909a0272&ei=24#image=3#comments)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fiery-school-board-meeting-brings-out-black-panthers-in-virginia/ar-BB1kbi2r?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=e09f50ea38104ad7b07f1ba3ed5f2ac2&ei=13 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fiery-school-board-meeting-brings-out-black-panthers-in-virginia/ar-BB1kbi2r?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=e09f50ea38104ad7b07f1ba3ed5f2ac2&ei=13)

Apparently, it is racist to punish black crime and not racist to only punish white crime.
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 20, 2024, 09:16:15 AM
I’m afraid their chipping away at us has begun to change me. I’m beginning to see black people as feral destroyers and parasites, and whites as civilization builders. The Saxon in me has begun to hate. Lord help us all.
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: Rush on March 20, 2024, 10:40:51 AM
I’m afraid their chipping away at us has begun to change me. I’m beginning to see black people as feral destroyers and parasites, and whites as civilization builders. The Saxon in me has begun to hate. Lord help us all.

I’m not.  I’m focusing on blacks who see the light.  By that I mean not woke, not racist, who want hiring on merit, not skin color, who work and pay taxes, etc.  There are lots of them.  Vote wise they may still be a minority but the Democrats were taken over by the far left only recently, in generational terms, and it takes a while for that to sink in. Many are starting to pay attention to issues such as the border problem and beginning to question whether the Democrats are really the best party for the country.

The urban criminal element gets a lot of press and it is indeed hard to keep yourself from associating black skin color with that; you don’t see a lot of news stories about regular law abiding black citizens.  That’s boring, it doesn’t make CNN money.

Yes, blacks are over-represented among criminal scum, but it is illogical to say: Most criminal scum are black, therefore most blacks are criminal scum.  That’s like saying:  Most fruits taste good, therefore all things that taste good are fruit.

I know you know that and I concur that the tendency to make that negative association is strong; it’s based on survival instinct.  When you see dangerous behavior, you memorize the characteristics of the person (or animal or thing) so that you may avoid it in the future. It’s a natural adaptive response.  This is why the criminal black element hurts good black people the most, other than their direct victims. And why I consciously find and follow black commentators who call out this element and who are on board with stopping the policies that created this mess (*ahem* Democrats. Mostly).
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: elwood blues on March 21, 2024, 06:56:18 PM
I'm with Becky on this one.  There is something inherently wrong with this race.  It's true that if you hand a white a pile of bricks, you end up with a city; and if you hand a black a city, you will end up with a pile of bricks.  Tiny little England, with barely any resources, went out and colonized the whole world.  Africa, with thousands of miles of coastline on two oceans and a major sea, and vast natural resources could only manage to build a mud hut.  Over the last 3000+ years they could not build one enduring city.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/unbelievable-family-teen-charged-brutally-beating-missouri-teen/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/unbelievable-family-teen-charged-brutally-beating-missouri-teen/)

Unbelievably, and yet predictably, the family of the bully thinks their daughter is the victim and cannot even fake show any sympathy for the brain-damaged teen.  The blacks who see the light, why aren't they speaking out, doing something, anything?  Yes, there are good ones:  Thomas Sowell, Candace Owens, Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson; I can literally count them on one hand!
If there is a systemic problem in this country, it's that our people in power have refused to hold them accountable for their actions, and until they do, we can expect more of this.  If they're over-represented in the criminal population, there's a reason for that.
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 21, 2024, 10:30:50 PM
To belabor Rush's point:
When a murder is committed in the U.S. and the gender of a murderer is known, 88% of the time it is a male. (https://www.statista.com/statistics/251886/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-gender/ (https://www.statista.com/statistics/251886/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-gender/))
I'd hate to be presumed a potential murderer until proven otherwise just because I'm male. I think most men would think it unfair, despite the statistical correlation that males are responsible for most murders. I'd like to be treated on an individual basis and held responsible only for my actions, not those of others with whom I may share physical traits.
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: Anthony on March 22, 2024, 03:07:19 AM
Males are more violent and aggressive in general. Agree, that doesn't mean we're all bad.

However,  the propensity for violence used as a solution to disagreement in the Black Community is real. That doesn't mean ALL Blacks are like that, but it does mean there is a systemic problem that must be addressed, both from the outside and within.

Peaceful Blacks need to start holding Blacks that commit violence accountable.
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: Little Joe on March 22, 2024, 03:27:27 AM
To belabor Rush's point:
When a murder is committed in the U.S. and the gender of a murderer is known, 88% of the time it is a male.
Now you sound like the MSM.

How about if you break that number (88%) down by race?  The MSM usually hides the race if the perp is black and puts their picture on the front page if they are white and especially if they are wearing a red hat.

I don't actually know what the true numbers really are though.  It is hard to get a read when the "news" is slanted and even the official statistics are, well, "statistics" (and you all know the line about lies and statistics).
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: Rush on March 22, 2024, 05:34:52 AM
Males are more violent and aggressive in general. Agree, that doesn't mean we're all bad.

However,  the propensity for violence used as a solution to disagreement in the Black Community is real. That doesn't mean ALL Blacks are like that, but it does mean there is a systemic problem that must be addressed, both from the outside and within.

Peaceful Blacks need to start holding Blacks that commit violence accountable.

Many are:

https://www.youtube.com/@NateTheLawyer/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@BlackGenZMindset/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@aknationnews/videos

But we need more blacks in positions of authority to implement the accountability and unfortunately it seems that the blacks we elect and appoint into such positions are usually soft on crime lefties, such as the Democrat mayors in the shithole cities that defunded the police.

More importantly we need black fathers in the home.  Male guidance and authority from childhood is essential.  No, women can’t do it.  We did not have this problem before the black family was destroyed by Democrat policies.

Males are more violent and aggressive, and that’s by design. You want them to be.  But it needs to be harnessed.  Only male role models - preferably fathers - can teach boys how to properly manage their natural tendencies toward violence.
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 22, 2024, 06:49:55 AM
Males are more violent and aggressive in general. Agree, that doesn't mean we're all bad.

However,  the propensity for violence used as a solution to disagreement in the Black Community is real. That doesn't mean ALL Blacks are like that, but it does mean there is a systemic problem that must be addressed, both from the outside and within.

Peaceful Blacks need to start holding Blacks that commit violence accountable.
After 9/11 I’d go around saying that good Muslims should purge the bad ones in their midst. Right. There’s something, too, called the “Black code.” It means that if you are black, you always vote for the black candidate. No matter how bad they are. Like DEI in the sky, this code has dire consequences. They also tend to excuse black crimes.
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on March 23, 2024, 03:56:46 PM

I know you know that and I concur that the tendency to make that negative association is strong; it’s based on survival instinct.  When you see dangerous behavior, you memorize the characteristics of the person (or animal or thing) so that you may avoid it in the future. It’s a natural adaptive response.
It also makes an enormous amount of sense evolutionarily. When the humans species largely was evolving recently we lived in small tribes of 25-50 people. It conferred a survival advantage to regard people outside that group with suspicion and expect hostility.

It is a real challenge to adapt these engrained behaviors to societies of up to a billion people.
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: Username on March 25, 2024, 04:38:44 AM
It also makes an enormous amount of sense evolutionarily. When the humans species largely was evolving recently we lived in small tribes of 25-50 people. It conferred a survival advantage to regard people outside that group with suspicion and expect hostility.

It is a real challenge to adapt these engrained behaviors to societies of up to a billion people.
The adaptation I've made is to view everyone outside my immediate family and everything with suspicion.  That's far less than 25 - 50 people.
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: Rush on March 25, 2024, 05:37:03 AM
The adaptation I've made is to view everyone outside my immediate family and everything with suspicion.  That's far less than 25 - 50 people.

I make a conscious choice to judge everyone as an individual. It doesn’t always work out. I like to give benefit of the doubt and so sometimes I fall for evil but so far the damages have been minimal. Because at the same time I have a very low threshold for risk, so at the very first hint of a red flag I cut and run.

Nevertheless I’m aware of subconscious biases, but they change over time. For example, in the past I would have associated dreadlocks with bad behavior, or at least an unwillingness to conform to society’s conventions in, say, the professional workplace.  And back then, I was right, at least about the job interview.  Not so anymore, because that style has become mainstream, and the locks now tell you nothing about the person’s character, work ethic, etc.  I do however, prefer them styled up away from your face.  Hair of any sort on any race hanging in your face is just awful.  Daryl in the later seasons of The Walking Dead drove me nuts.
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: Anthony on March 25, 2024, 08:28:19 AM
We make several prejudicial judgments about people daily. Age, weight, height, clothing,, speech, tatoos/piercings and yes ethnicity and skin color also.
Title: Re: More Racism
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on March 25, 2024, 08:46:30 AM
The adaptation I've made is to view everyone outside my immediate family and everything with suspicion.  That's far less than 25 - 50 people.

One of the downsides to living in a large relatively anonymous societies. Of course, there are a large number of advantages as well, particularly in regards to trade.