PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: TimRB on May 05, 2020, 12:13:42 PM
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Just because I'm getting sick and tired of hearing and seeing nothing but C19 stories...
Can anyone tell me what this boy does wrong?:
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=kUt24_1588665765
Tim
(Or maybe I'm just over-cautious)
Edit: You can save some time by skipping to a couple minutes into the video
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really bad muzzle discipline.
Really bad.
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I have a Walther PP my Dad brought back from Germany after WWII. Not a fan. I much prefer the Russian designed and made Makarov that was also made in Bulgaria, East Germany and China. I have examples of all of them except China. Great pistols for blowback action calibers like (380 ACP (I have a commercial Russian Mak in .380), or 9mm Makarov (9x18). They are very accurate and very reliable.
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Dumb fuck points a loaded gun at himself. What idiot does that?
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In the very beginning doesn’t check to see if it’s loaded before messing in front of the muzzle, then later points at himself, even though there’s no mag is there one in the chamber? Then he screws on the silencer while it’s loaded. Creeps me out.
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In the very beginning doesn’t check to see if it’s loaded before messing in front of the muzzle, then later points at himself, even though there’s no mag is there one in the chamber? Then he screws on the silencer while it’s loaded. Creeps me out.
Every gun is loaded. Don't point it at anything you don't want to destroy .
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I'll bet he doesn't even wear a mask when he goes to Walmart.
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Then he screws on the silencer while it’s loaded. Creeps me out.
That's the one that got to me. Loaded, cocked gun (possibly at least with the safety on) and he screws on the silencer. Guns must be incredibly safe. Look at all the stupid stuff you can do with one and still not get hurt, at least for a while. If one guy makes a video of himself like that one, you have to assume that around the country thousands of people are doing equally stupid things--maybe getting hurt, maybe not.
Tim
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That's the one that got to me. Loaded, cocked gun (possibly at least with the safety on) and he screws on the silencer. Guns must be incredibly safe. Look at all the stupid stuff you can do with one and still not get hurt, at least for a while. If one guy makes a video of himself like that one, you have to assume that around the country thousands of people are doing equally stupid things--maybe getting hurt, maybe not.
Tim
Fortunately, there aren't many fatalities annually caused by negligent discharges of firearms. IIRC, there are about 1000 deaths from "accidents" (I have a lot of difficulty considering a negligent discharge to be an accident)
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Fortunately, there aren't many fatalities annually caused by negligent discharges of firearms. IIRC, there are about 1000 deaths from "accidents" (I have a lot of difficulty considering a negligent discharge to be an accident)
As you know, Guns just don't "go off". You need to pull the trigger. Hollywood, and the Media have purposely and wrongly convinced many people, ignorant of gun usage, that guns can kill ALL BY THEMSELVES. There is no such thing as an accidental discharge. There is always negligence involved as someone has to do something really stupid to fire a gun unintentionally.
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As you know, Guns just don't "go off". You need to pull the trigger. Hollywood, and the Media have purposely and wrongly convinced many people, ignorant of gun usage, that guns can kill ALL BY THEMSELVES. There is no such thing as an accidental discharge. There is always negligence involved as someone has to do something really stupid to fire a gun unintentionally.
It’s worse. Hollywood is directly responsible for many accidental discharges. Anyone who hasn’t had firearms training has been conditioned by tv and movies to put their right index finger on the trigger every time they pick up a gun, and, when not directly threatening someone, to point it randomly, muzzle sweeping themselves and everyone nearby.
I cannot for the life of me understand how, for nearly 100 years, Hollywood insists on continuing this dangerous idiocy.
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It’s worse. Hollywood is directly responsible for many accidental discharges. Anyone who hasn’t had firearms training has been conditioned by tv and movies to put their right index finger on the trigger every time they pick up a gun, and, when not directly threatening someone, to point it randomly, muzzle sweeping themselves and everyone nearby.
I cannot for the life of me understand how, for nearly 100 years, Hollywood insists on continuing this dangerous idiocy.
Following some "accidents" involving guns with blanks (including one probable future star pretending to shoot himself in the head with a blank... he didn't realize that the blank would have enough concusive force to kill him), at least some production crews are a lot more serious about firearm safety.
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Following some "accidents" involving guns with blanks (including one probable future star pretending to shoot himself in the head with a blank... he didn't realize that the blank would have enough concusive force to kill him), at least some production crews are a lot more serious about firearm safety.
Once in a blue moon I see an actor holding a gun correctly. It’s way too rare.
When they are holding someone at gunpoint, it’s a trope, they MUST have their finger on the trigger. It’s more dramatic that way. That’s their excuse.
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Once in a blue moon I see an actor holding a gun correctly. It’s way too rare.
When they are holding someone at gunpoint, it’s a trope, they MUST have their finger on the trigger. It’s more dramatic that way. That’s their excuse.
Hollywood willfully admits their dreck is not realistic, or fact but just entertainment. They don't care as long as people watch and it makes money. Most people are too stupid to notice, or care. Remember, you have a bunch of Leftist Soy Boys, Gays and Woman running the show. Guns? They are scared of them and most likely never even touched one in their lives.
I see this with aviation content also. They are clueless and don't even see the need to hire experts to show them how airplanes fly before they do the CGI for them. It looks like crap as does almost everything else related to airplanes and flying. Utter CRAP.
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how about watching a scene of two actors in a car having a conversation. oy
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how about watching a scene of two actors in a car having a conversation. oy
That has bothered me for as long as I can remember. No way I can take my eyes off the road for as long as they do in the movies or on TV.
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No way I can take my eyes off the road for as long as they do in the movies or on TV.
You have to watch the road? Who knew?
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Of course every scene with a shotgun. Guy with a gun points it threateningly, then a few minutes later when the conversation gets heated he racks a shell into the chamber. WHY was he pointing an empty gun? What did he think he would do if he had to react quickly? For dramatic sound, probably.
Same with semi-auto handguns. Running around until finally the subject is on the ground, then dramatically cycling the action to get one into the chamber. Sheesh.
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how about watching a scene of two actors in a car having a conversation. oy
That bothers the HELL out of me.
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Of course every scene with a shotgun. Guy with a gun points it threateningly, then a few minutes later when the conversation gets heated he racks a shell into the chamber. WHY was he pointing an empty gun? What did he think he would do if he had to react quickly? For dramatic sound, probably.
Same with semi-auto handguns. Running around until finally the subject is on the ground, then dramatically cycling the action to get one into the chamber. Sheesh.
When I carry, it's always condition 1. One may not have time and/or a hand free to rack the thing.
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When I carry, it's always condition 1. One may not have time and/or a hand free to rack the thing.
I consider a gun without a round chambered to be unloaded.
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Of course every scene with a shotgun. Guy with a gun points it threateningly, then a few minutes later when the conversation gets heated he racks a shell into the chamber. WHY was he pointing an empty gun? What did he think he would do if he had to react quickly? For dramatic sound, probably.
Same with semi-auto handguns. Running around until finally the subject is on the ground, then dramatically cycling the action to get one into the chamber. Sheesh.
How about the hammer cocking sound when someone picks up a glock?
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And the people who make and finance these films are the biggest supporters of abolishing 2A.
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And the people who make and finance these films are the biggest supporters of abolishing 2A.
It is the height of HYPOCRISY. These actors, directors, producers, etc. are all Far Left Progressives and anti legal gun ownership. They want to disarm the LAW ABIDING, but glorify gangstas and criminals using guns in illegal, extremely violent and graphic acts.
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how about watching a scene of two actors in a car having a conversation. oy
Speaking of realism, how about two actors sitting in the back of a Huey, doors wide open, chit-chatting?
Tim
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Speaking of realism, how about two actors sitting in the back of a Huey, doors wide open, chit-chatting?
Tim
I saw that on some show recently. I mentioned to my wife that I wished I could hear that good. Even with hearing aids, I have to close the window to the car to carry on a conversation.
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I saw a recent rerun of mythbusters where they busted the Point Break movie for sky divers having a conversation on the way down...
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I consider a gun without a round chambered to be unloaded.
The gun is unloaded.
The magazine may be loaded or not. The magazine may not even be in the gun.
I keep all of my guns loaded. I know to keep the booger picker off of the bang switch until the appropriate time.
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The gun is unloaded.
The magazine may be loaded or not. The magazine may not even be in the gun.
I keep all of my guns loaded. I know to keep the booger picker off of the bang switch until the appropriate time.
I wouldn’t put it quite that way but yes.
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The gun is unloaded.
I agree with you, but you wouldn't believe how many people I know that carry that way, and think it is unsafe to carry with a round in the chamber.
The magazine may be loaded or not. The magazine may not even be in the gun.
Some carry with a loaded magazine, but no round in the chamber, which would force someone to have to manipulate the slide in order to load the chamber.
I keep all of my guns loaded. I know to keep the booger picker off of the bang switch until the appropriate time.
Trigger discipline is one of the most important aspects of gun safety.
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I agree with you, but you wouldn't believe how many people I know that carry that way, and think it is unsafe to carry with a round in the chamber.
Some carry with a loaded magazine, but no round in the chamber, which would force someone to have to manipulate the slide in order to load the chamber.
Trigger discipline is one of the most important aspects of gun safety.
+1 100%
I've been carrying for 20+ years condition 1, and it doesn't scare me or bother me a bit. Keep your finger away from the trigger when holstering, and always respect the gun. ALWAYS!
A weapon not ready to be used is just a heavy rock.
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+1 100%
I've been carrying for 20+ years condition 1, and it doesn't scare me or bother me a bit. Keep your finger away from the trigger when holstering, and always respect the gun. ALWAYS!
A weapon not ready to be used is just a heavy rock.
Another key is always carry holstered in a holster that covers the trigger guard. This is especially true for guns like Glocks with no manual safety except the trigger lever. That's where "Glock Leg" comes from. Like these geniuses.
The former New York Giants wide receiver accidentally shot himself in the leg with a .40-caliber semi-automatic pistol he was carrying in his waistband. The incident occurred November 29, 2008, in the VIP area of the Latin Quarter nightclub in Manhattan.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/22/burress.surrenders/index.html
After Aqib Talib shot himself in the leg back in June, the first reaction from most people on the internet was to compare the Broncos cornerback to Plaxico Burress.
The comparison made sense. After all, if there's anyone out there who could possibly understand what Talib was going through, it was Burress, who shot himself in the leg at a New York nightclub back in 2008.
Although Burress doesn't talk about the incident too often, he did take some time recently to explain exactly what happened on the night he shot himself.
In a piece written for The Player's Tribune, Burress went into detail about what happened on Nov. 28, 2008:
My friends and I stood at the bar for like five minutes, and the place was packed wall to wall. The security guy suggested we go upstairs, where we could get a table and chill and it wouldn't be so crazy. So we did, and he led the way.
The stairway was narrow and dark and everything was black. I had a drink in my left hand and I was walking right behind the security guard. The music was loud and I could feel the bass thumping the stairs under my feet. But I could barely see and I guess I missed a step and my foot slipped. My gun came unhooked from my belt and went sliding down my right pant leg. My instant reaction was to catch it before it hit the floor, and I reached down with my right hand to grab it. And I guess my finger hit right on the trigger, because it went off.
The music was so loud that nobody actually heard the gun discharge, but I knew that it had because I saw the flash of fire through my jeans.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ex-receiver-plaxico-burress-finally-explains-how-he-shot-himself-in-the-leg-at-a-club/
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Another key is always carry holstered in a holster that covers the trigger guard. This is especially true for guns like Glocks with no manual safety except the trigger lever. That's where "Glock Leg" comes from. Like these geniuses.
I always carry in a good holster that covers the trigger guard. Like most here, I have a box of old unloved holsters that I don't use, and haven't bought a new holster in a decade until recently. You know how it goes, "Hey, that looks like a good idea!" and then you buy, try it for a while, and then off into the orphan holster box with the rest of them.
As it is very hot here in the summer, shorts and a T-shirt is my standard casual wear, with maybe a nice polo if I need to be more presentable. For years my go to was to carry my XD-9 subcompact in a Smartcarry[1], which basically puts the weapon below your belt in front of your junk. It works mostly well, allows me to bend and move without exposing the weapon to view, and is generally comfortable. Downsides are having to push it out of the way to go to the bathroom, and in certain situations "things" down there can get pinched a bit.
I recently bought an Urbancarry G3[2], and it's the bomb. Similar concept, the weapon is carried inside the pants below the belt line, but with this one the weapon is carried behind your strong hand pants pocket. As such it's away from your junk, so no bathroom/pincing/sweating issues. And it's mighty fast on the draw, yet secure as well. Only a small flap over the belt gives it away, and I've yet to have someone ask about the belt. If they do, I'll just say it's part of my pocket phone carrier and pull my phone out of the pocket. Look at the videos, this thing IS a better mousetrap, and is now my #1 EDC holster. Also a bonus, the same size that fits the XD also fits my Kimber UltraCarry II. This one isn't going into the box.
The only other rig I carry is when I want to go open, which isn't often anymore, but when I do it's my Glock 20 in a Blackhawk Serpa Level III duty[3].
[1]https://www.smartcarry.com/gun-mag-holster
[2]https://urbancarryholsters.com/order-custom-build-g3.html
[3]https://blackhawk.com/serpa-l3-duty-holsters/
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Idiots. Yet another thing I cringe when I see on shows, people sticking guns in their waistbands.
And if you do drop a gun, let it fall, don’t grab for it. Another false myth is a gun will “go off” if it hits the floor. Extremely unlikely, unless it’s not a modern handgun.
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Idiots. Yet another thing I cringe when I see on shows, people sticking guns in their waistbands.
And if you do drop a gun, let it fall, don’t grab for it. Another false myth is a gun will “go off” if it hits the floor. Extremely unlikely, unless it’s not a modern handgun.
Yes, as you say, guns are drop safe now, but even the old ones are very, very unlikely to "go off" if you drop them. I love when you hear people say "the gun just went off!". Ahhh, no. Someone pulled the trigger. That's why it "went off". ::)
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I always carry in a good holster that covers the trigger guard. Like most here, I have a box of old unloved holsters that I don't use, and haven't bought a new holster in a decade until recently. You know how it goes, "Hey, that looks like a good idea!" and then you buy, try it for a while, and then off into the orphan holster box with the rest of them.
As it is very hot here in the summer, shorts and a T-shirt is my standard casual wear, with maybe a nice polo if I need to be more presentable. For years my go to was to carry my XD-9 subcompact in a Smartcarry[1], which basically puts the weapon below your belt in front of your junk. It works mostly well, allows me to bend and move without exposing the weapon to view, and is generally comfortable. Downsides are having to push it out of the way to go to the bathroom, and in certain situations "things" down there can get pinched a bit.
I recently bought an Urbancarry G3[2], and it's the bomb. Similar concept, the weapon is carried inside the pants below the belt line, but with this one the weapon is carried behind your strong had pants pocket. As such it's away from your junk, so no bathroom/pincing/sweating issues. And it's mighty fast on the draw, yet secure as well. Only a small flap over the belt gives it away, and I've yet to have someone ask about the belt. If they do, I'll just say it's part of my pocket phone carrier and pull my phone out of the pocket. Look at the videos, this thing IS a better mousetrap, and is now my #1 EDC holster. Also a bonus, the same size that fits the XD also fits my Kimber UltraCarry II. This one isn't going into the box.
The only other rig I carry is when I want to go open, which isn't often anymore, but when I do it's my Glock 20 in a Blackhawk Serpa Level III duty[3].
[1]https://www.smartcarry.com/gun-mag-holster
[2]https://urbancarryholsters.com/order-custom-build-g3.html
[3]https://blackhawk.com/serpa-l3-duty-holsters/
I have a smartcarry! Being female, it conflicting with my junk is not an issue. The issue happened when fashion for women went to skin tight leggings.
I also have a box of unloved holsters. My favorite holster remains one of the very first I ever bought and it’s the simplest. It consists of only a strip of leather that covers the trigger guard but not much more. Maybe I’ll post a picture of it later.
I also have a couple of carry fanny packs, and I’ve had a series of carry purses. My current one is loud and garish and as big as a small suitcase, which is exactly correct for Texas. it seems no one suspects its secret function. Well, maybe everyone does since, Texas!
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Speaking of Smartcarry, I have a good story about when I was pulled for speeding wearing my Smartcarry. As per law in NC, I told the officer I had a CCW permit and was armed. He said, “Where is it?” And I said, “Well... I have a kind of a crotch holster.” He actually laughed and said, “Okay we won’t go there,” and then proceeded to ask why I was in such a hurry. I ended up with a ticket, not a warning that time. :(
My other story is riding shotgun with my brother and he was pulled for speeding. Again, per NC law, he tells the officer that both he and “my sister here” are armed. So the cop asks where his gun is and my brother says, “Which one?” All of them of course, and my brother is asked to step out of the car and unload and show clear all of them, (I think there were three.) Then the cop tells him to come sit in the car with him and my brother says, “What about my sister?” And the cop says, “She’s fine,” and they go sit in his car while he writes up my brother’s ticket, and I sit there armed with my loaded gun and greatly offended that the cop did not view me as a threat.
Any of you have good pulled while carrying stories?
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Speaking of Smartcarry, I have a good story about when I was pulled for speeding wearing my Smartcarry. As per law in NC, I told the officer I had a CCW permit and was armed. He said, “Where is it?” And I said, “Well... I have a kind of a crotch holster.” He actually laughed and said, “Okay we won’t go there,” and then proceeded to ask why I was in such a hurry. I ended up with a ticket, not a warning that time. :(
My other story is riding shotgun with my brother and he was pulled for speeding. Again, per NC law, he tells the officer that both he and “my sister here” are armed. So the cop asks where his gun is and my brother says, “Which one?” All of them of course, and my brother is asked to step out of the car and unload and show clear all of them, (I think there were three.) Then the cop tells him to come sit in the car with him and my brother says, “What about my sister?” And the cop says, “She’s fine,” and they go sit in his car while he writes up my brother’s ticket, and I sit there armed with my loaded gun and greatly offended that the cop did not view me as a threat.
Any of you have good pulled while carrying stories?
It always surprises (well maybe not) and disguists me that cops view LEGALLY carrying citizens with CCW permits as a threat. Yes, I know they have to be careful. In PA there is no duty to inform. If asked you must tell them,b ut don't have to volunteer that info. However, now the cops have a database of CCW holders so when they either pull up your plate number or driver license number the see that you HAVE a CCW (in PA it is an LTCF). So now they ALWAYS ask me so I tell them the truth. The times I have been pulled over (rare) I have not been carrying, so no stories.
However, I have heard from reliable sources that cops sometimes will take your gun, unload it, and sometimes even disassemble it, then run the serial number to see if anything comes up. They've even damaged guns, and even retained them for no reason, but nothing happens to them. I doubt they'd know how to disassemble anything I carry as I carry some oddball stuff such as an HK P7, Polish P-83 Wanad, Bulgarian Makarov, CZ-75, and even a Mauser Luger on occasion. No way they could figure out any of those.
Rush, didn't you use to carry in a "Thunderwear" holster?
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It always surprises (well maybe not) and disguists me that cops view LEGALLY carrying citizens with CCW permits as a threat. Yes, I know they have to be careful. In PA there is no duty to inform. If asked you must tell them,b ut don't have to volunteer that info. However, now the cops have a database of CCW holders so when they either pull up your plate number or driver license number the see that you HAVE a CCW (in PA it is an LTCF). So now they ALWAYS ask me so I tell them the truth. The times I have been pulled over (rare) I have not been carrying, so no stories.
However, I have heard from reliable sources that cops sometimes will take your gun, unload it, and sometimes even disassemble it, then run the serial number to see if anything comes up. They've even damaged guns, and even retained them for no reason, but nothing happens to them. I doubt they'd know how to disassemble anything I carry as I carry some oddball stuff such as an HK P7, Polish P-83 Wanad, Bulgarian Makarov, CZ-75, and even a Mauser Luger on occasion. No way they could figure out any of those.
Rush, didn't you use to carry in a "Thunderwear" holster?
The Smartcarry was the Thunderwear to which I refer. Unless they are two different brands.
I have found two different types of cops. Those who don’t believe citizens should carry, and those who do and actually like you if you have a carry permit because it means you’ve been background checked and are very unlikely to be a threat. It’s possible PA has more of the former and NC more of the latter.
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The Smartcarry was the Thunderwear to which I refer. Unless they are two different brands.
I have found two different types of cops. Those who don’t believe citizens should carry, and those who do and actually like you if you have a carry permit because it means you’ve been background checked and are very unlikely to be a threat. It’s possible PA has more of the former and NC more of the latter.
I think you're right. I know some cops at my gun club and I ask them that, and their response is "People that have passed background checks commit crime too". I respond by saying, "but at what percentage? Who is MORE LIKELY to commit a crime???" Crickets...... ::)
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Some carry with a loaded magazine, but no round in the chamber, which would force someone to have to manipulate the slide in order to load the chamber.
Anyone remember the scene from "Point of No Return" where Nikita grabs "Bob's" gun?
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Any of you have good pulled while carrying stories?
I used to have a Harley Davidson Street Glide, and was swiftly riding through a construction zone on I40 through Knoxville. The speed limit was 45, traffic was running 55-60, and I like to be +10 over traffic when on a bike. Another bike came up quickly behind and then the blues went on. Crap, moto cop!
After I pull over he's doing the usual cop thing, yelling, why was I speeding in a construction zone, the mayor is on our back to enforce, yada yada yada. I handed him my drivers license and CC permit, and his demeanor changed instantly. No more yelling, asked about the gun, how I carried it, did I like it, etc. Then he asked if I had other bikes (at the time I did), and we ended up talking guns and bikes on the side of the road for 15-20min. He was all smiles. "Try to keep it to 60 or less until you're out of my construction zone" and that was it. No ticket, no warning.
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How about the hammer cocking sound when someone picks up a glock?
I’ve noticed that in EVERY TV show or movie, EVERY time a gun is picked up, unholstered, or just handled, it sounds like the guy is picking up a paper bag of gun parts, with metal clanging against metal.
The jetliner with the piston engine sounds on the movie “Airplane” is more realistic.
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Yes, as you say, guns are drop safe now, but even the old ones are very, very unlikely to "go off" if you drop them. I love when you hear people say "the gun just went off!". Ahhh, no. Someone pulled the trigger. That's why it "went off". ::)
At the NRA Convention in Indianapolis a few years ago I purchased a “Sticky” holster, which has a tacky exterior that is supposed to stay where you put it in your waistband. I used it for my Glock 27 and it was comfortable. Right until the point that it fell out of my waistband at the Home Depot and hit the floor as I was bending over to pick up something from a low shelf.
It took a while for my heart rate to subside. I stopped carrying with one in the chamber after that, even though the Glock safety worked as advertised.
I now wear a leather paddle holster. Not great for the summer but good for winter.
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The Smartcarry was the Thunderwear to which I refer. Unless they are two different brands.
I have found two different types of cops. Those who don’t believe citizens should carry, and those who do and actually like you if you have a carry permit because it means you’ve been background checked and are very unlikely to be a threat. It’s possible PA has more of the former and NC more of the latter.
One of the more depressing things I see is some of these second amendment videos with idiot cops. One I saw yesterday was some guy called the cops to let them know that he planned on walking around his town with an AR slung on his back, unloaded, with an unloaded chamber flag sticking out of it. He didn’t want to get shot by some hothead cop so he let them know in advance what he was doing. I think it was smart.
Anyway two cops showed up at his house to discourage the guy from doing it. This was in a Texas, where open carry is legal. However, the cop said causing a disturbance is not legal, and if I’m his open carry causes a disturbance (which could be a single panty waste calling 911) this guy WILL get arrested.
The guy said the dispatcher should take the opportunity to educate people and let them know it was legal. No such luck.
I wonder if the guy ever took his walk.
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One of the more depressing things I see is some of these second amendment videos with idiot cops. One I saw yesterday was some guy called the cops to let them know that he planned on walking around his town with an AR slung on his back, unloaded, with an unloaded chamber flag sticking out of it. He didn’t want to get shot by some hothead cop so he let them know in advance what he was doing. I think it was smart.
Anyway two cops showed up at his house to discourage the guy from doing it. This was in a Texas, where open carry is legal. However, the cop said causing a disturbance is not legal, and if I’m his open carry causes a disturbance (which could be a single panty waste calling 911) this guy WILL get arrested.
The guy said the dispatcher should take the opportunity to educate people and let them know it was legal. No such luck.
I wonder if the guy ever took his walk.
Kind of a gun enthusiast version of trolling.
Not the brightest thing to do.
And there are certainly better, more effective ways to get the point across
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Kind of a gun enthusiast version of trolling.
Not the brightest thing to do.
And there are certainly better, more effective ways to get the point across
True, but it raises serious Constitutional issues. Do my natural rights end if they make you uncomfortable?
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True, but it raises serious Constitutional issues. Do my natural rights end if they make you uncomfortable?
Apparently. That’s why there is always a loophole in open carry worded something like “going about terrorizing the public” which instantly neutralizes your right because “terror” is subjective.
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True, but it raises serious Constitutional issues. Do my natural rights end if they make you uncomfortable?
No. They don't.
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I used to open carry my pistol occasionally as we're an open carry state, but open carry draws lunatics of all persuasions. After a while I grew tired of the same old questions and bullshit, so it's better to just go concealed.
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I used to open carry my pistol occasionally as we're an open carry state, but open carry draws lunatics of all persuasions. After a while I grew tired of the same old questions and bullshit, so it's better to just go concealed.
I agree.
I read a story a while back about a guy that was open-carrying his handgun. He was hit over the head from behind and had his handgun stolen.
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I agree.
I read a story a while back about a guy that was open-carrying his handgun. He was hit over the head from behind and had his handgun stolen.
That’s the sort of reason I wouldn’t. Besides, being a frumpy old lady is my disguise. No one would expect me to pull out a gun and actually be well trained in it’s use.
There are times when it’s appropriate. Years ago when my now son in law was single and lived with a roommate in an apartment, there was a rash of burglaries in their apartment complex. So he and his roommate started to patrol the complex while open carrying, holstered of course. No more burglaries.
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The only time I have open carried is in the deep woods. The mountains of Colorado or some God forsaken place in PA, or KY. Typically when backpacking. I conceal carry every where else due to what others have said. I do not want to draw attention to myself from anyone.
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I always thought that the camo wearing, AR slinging retards who go to starbucks to prove a point actually hurt the pro 2 amendment supporters. They are proving a stereotype the media is pushing.
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I always thought that the camo wearing, AR slinging retards who go to starbucks to prove a point actually hurt the pro 2 amendment supporters. They are proving a stereotype the media is pushing.
That is VERY RARE, but yes, they give the Media and Democrats ammunition to stereotype and demonize law abiding gun owners. I've not heard of any of those protests happening recently unless you count the Michigan incident recently where armed people legally entered the Capital to protest the Governor's Nazi orders.
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That is VERY RARE, but yes, they give the Media and Democrats ammunition to stereotype and demonize law abiding gun owners. I've not heard of any of those protests happening recently unless you count the Michigan incident recently where armed people legally entered the Capital to protest the Governor's Nazi orders.
I'm going to put my tin foil hat on and wonder how many of those in Michigan were actors paid by the left to purposely cause problems to blame on the right.
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No. They don't.
And that’s the point that the guy was trying to make. He may pay a price for it but I admire the strength of his belief.
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I'm going to put my tin foil hat on and wonder how many of those in Michigan were actors paid by the left to purposely cause problems to blame on the right.
Not sure about the ones carrying guns, but the ones with allegedly carrying a Nazi flag? Oh yea. I’ll bet 100% of them were actors.
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I'm going to put my tin foil hat on and wonder how many of those in Michigan were actors paid by the left to purposely cause problems to blame on the right.
I'm not so sure, but wouldn't rule it out. What used to be "Tin Foil Hat" material a few years ago, is happening NOW. The Globalist Progressives ordered this Worldwide Shutdown and our Democrats who are controlled and paid by them went right along. Fauci is ONE OF THEM. Look at him with the Clintons, Bill Gates, Soros, Bloomberg and others.
Trump knows this but was painted into a corner. When he is re-elected see what happens. My question is how many of the Democrats are bought and paid for by CHINA?