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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 28, 2021, 07:30:13 PM
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https://parler.com/#feed/0db0d747-0f09-45ae-aa47-28fa70dca8a0 (https://parler.com/#feed/0db0d747-0f09-45ae-aa47-28fa70dca8a0)
A NSA whistleblower says the NSA is spying on Tucker Carlson's communications.
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They’re spying on all of us. I can’t see the article. Does it say they got a FISA order to unmask him?
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They’re spying on all of us. I can’t see the article. Does it say they got a FISA order to unmask him?
Not really an article, just says an NSA whistleblower told him. Parler is Twitter without the censoring.
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Not really an article, just says an NSA whistleblower told him. Parler is Twitter without the censoring.
We’d need more information. Totally plausible though. My go to for this sort of thing is of course Snowden, who revealed that massive data is continually being collected, compiled and updated to create a real time evolving profile of each of us. Note the NSA doesn’t deny this. This is not tin foil hat stuff. It comes from the Patriot Act. You can read about the NSA’s philosophy in “Playing to the Edge” by Michael Hayden, in which he comes out and says the NSA goes as far as it can in the direction of illegal violation of the Constitution without actually crossing that line - it goes all the way up to that edge, hence the book title. They work with a team of lawyers to ensure they remain just on this side of the law. And all this collection was made “legal” with the Patriot Act, with which I take issue but they didn’t consult me.
Anyway, all the data remains anonymous (allegedly) unless the NSA obtains a court order to violate our privacy and unmask us, that was the justification for calling this database “legal”. The FISA court is all that protects our 4th Amendment right and it turned out to be way too easily misused. However, Snowden also said there was nothing preventing certain NSA employees or contractors from accessing this data right from their work stations, without authorization from the FISA court. This access would be recorded and discovered, but not in time to prevent the data from being used by the rogue agent. That may have been fixed though, since. But I haven’t seen any interest in fixing the FISA abuse, nobody has been held accountable for lying to the court as far as I know so there’s still that.
It’s my suspicion that a whole lot of people are now being investigated as “extremists” who are actually simply “not woke Democrats”. Especially those with platforms reaching a large audience. They considered Trump saying “be peaceful and go back home” as “inciting a riot”. So whatever they find on a person will be twisted and misconstrued and used as an excuse to silence them.
No doubt that what’s happening is the FBI and DOJ are packing their file on Tucker Carlson (and many others) just to keep them at the ready for whenever they want to pull the trigger on someone.
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From what I've seen so far, Tucker backs it up by saying some of the information they have could have only come from his cellphone and text. This is classic counter intelligence, if you believe something is being surveilled, simply start dropping specific information and wait for the echo. Tucker found the echo.
The JoBama Administration has gone into overdrive weaponizing the federal government. Look at DC and the jailed political dissenters. A woman is murdered and the government will not talk about it. Thousands of hours of video tape they will not release.
Now add in an FBI and DoJ who now operate as purely partisan, and a DoD which has gone woke.
This was a pre-emptive strike by Tucker, but the writing is on the wall. Look at what they tried and are still trying with people like Matt Gaetz.
It's like the CCP is running our government now.
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From what I've seen so far, Tucker backs it up by saying some of the information they have could have only come from his cellphone and text. This is classic counter intelligence, if you believe something is being surveilled, simply start dropping specific information and wait for the echo. Tucker found the echo.
The JoBama Administration has gone into overdrive weaponizing the federal government. Look at DC and the jailed political dissenters. A woman is murdered and the government will not talk about it. Thousands of hours of video tape they will not release.
Now add in an FBI and DoJ who now operate as purely partisan, and a DoD which has gone woke.
This was a pre-emptive strike by Tucker, but the writing is on the wall. Look at what they tried and are still trying with people like Matt Gaetz.
It's like the CCP is running our government now.
I made a small political contribution sometime during Obama’s rein of terror, and in doing so I intentionally typed my first name as StAn just to see where that went.
Ted Crus, Ron Johnson, and dozens of others started sending emails to StAn. Kind of creepy.
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They did it to Sheryl Atkisson and the senior DC correspondent from Fox News, James Rosen whom I also really like.
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Oh, OK, gee, thanks.............this clears everything up!
https://twitter.com/NSAGov/status/1410025399032193027
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Oh, OK, gee, thanks.............this clears everything up!
https://twitter.com/NSAGov/status/1410025399032193027
Note the careful wording. That statement is technically true. It’s the Democrats in the White House, and other agencies, not the NSA itself, that target political enemies within our borders (as they did Trump in 2016). They are clients of the NSA. The NSA itself only directly targets foreign threats, as it said.
It’s also true that the NSA has no plans to take him off the air. The NSA doesn’t do such stuff. It collects data. Then releases the data to its clients to do with what they will.
It also correctly states that it “may not” target a US citizen without a (FISA) court order. “May not”, “can not” and “does not” all have different meanings.
The only part that is blatantly false is where they say the allegation of monitoring Tucker’s communications is untrue. The NSA is monitoring and collecting ALL our communications all day every day. We all know it and they know we know it. What they mean is that it wasn’t de-anonymized for Tucker, implying there was no court order. That part may well be true. There might well be no official unmasking of Tucker.
But as I said in my earlier post, individuals within the NSA could access this data and misuse it. They would be discovered after the fact and probably quietly disciplined, we would never hear about it. Sadly, the NSA suffers from the same split we have throughout the US. Some are loyal to the Constitution and then you have Democrats.
You can have a rogue NSA agent with TDS getting this info out to the WH, or you could have a higher level individual within the NSA directing someone to discreetly collect it, or you could even have a compromised plant working at the NSA, put there by whatever cabal is pulling Biden’s strings. All of these scenarios would allow plausible deniability by the NSA officially.
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The work around that the intelligence agencies use are contractors.
Contractors are not held to the same standards as government. A contractor can spy on anyone. The various agencies, including the NSA use dozens of contractors, and these contractors are usually run by former intelligence agency heads, at a very lucrative contract.
Intelligence uses creative work arounds to gather information as well, all legal. This system is almost perfect, except for the occasional whistleblower.
Hopefully the whistleblower in the Tucker case used several layers of protection. You can rest assured that the NSA and their contractors are doing a thorough audit of everyone who accessed the data.
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The work around that the intelligence agencies use are contractors.
Contractors are not held to the same standards as government. A contractor can spy on anyone. The various agencies, including the NSA use dozens of contractors, and these contractors are usually run by former intelligence agency heads, at a very lucrative contract.
Intelligence uses creative work arounds to gather information as well, all legal. This system is almost perfect, except for the occasional whistleblower.
Hopefully the whistleblower in the Tucker case used several layers of protection. You can rest assured that the NSA and their contractors are doing a thorough audit of everyone who accessed the data.
Exactly. “Playing to the Edge”.
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Oh, OK, gee, thanks.............this clears everything up!
https://twitter.com/NSAGov/status/1410025399032193027
Oh yeah... and the government NEVER lies....
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The work around that the intelligence agencies use are contractors.
Contractors are not held to the same standards as government. A contractor can spy on anyone. The various agencies, including the NSA use dozens of contractors, and these contractors are usually run by former intelligence agency heads, at a very lucrative contract.
Intelligence uses creative work arounds to gather information as well, all legal. This system is almost perfect, except for the occasional whistleblower.
Hopefully the whistleblower in the Tucker case used several layers of protection. You can rest assured that the NSA and their contractors are doing a thorough audit of everyone who accessed the data.
Exactly. I did the corporate real estate portfolio management for a very large defense contractor whom I will not name. I was officed at their HQ in a well known DC suburb. Wherever the NSA had a location, they had a location, either next to or within. I had to have a top secret clearance to enter all of their facilities which I did regularly. I obviously can't say what I saw but it was scary with the AI and everything.
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Exactly. I did the corporate real estate portfolio management for a very large defense contractor whom I will not name. I was officed at their HQ in a well known DC suburb. Wherever the NSA had a location, they had a location, either next to or within. I had to have a top secret clearance to enter all of their facilities which I did regularly. I obviously can't say what I saw but it was scary with the AI and everything.
Oh come on. Spill the beans. We’re all friends here. We won’t say anything.
Lol
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Yeah, about 20 years ago I had a job offer from the DIA to be a project manager. I sniffed around a little to understand what they were doing and decided that based on what I could see from the public side, I could not be a part of it. It wasn't worth the guilt I would have knowing I was enabling it.
Things slip out every once in a while and I'm not at all surprised by what I hear.
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Bongino has been talking about this today. Lots of good points he's making.
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Bongino has been talking about this today. Lots of good points he's making.
He's really nailing it.
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Oh come on. Spill the beans. We’re all friends here. We won’t say anything.
Lol
Oswald was not acting alone. There I said it.
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Oswald was not acting alone. There I said it.
In case Hillary is listening, Anthony didn’t kill himself.
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Neither did Jeffry Epstein...
Scroll right to see it all.
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In case Hillary is listening, Anthony didn’t kill himself.
You beat me to it!
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yeah, that'll happen.
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The goon squad will issue a statement saying they investigated themselves and found nothing there.... just like the inside of biden’s skull.
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Interesting discussion on Bongino about how the NSA can spy on you. He played and interview with Sebastion Gorka that talked about it. My take is, if you are using VPN and routing your data through a foreign server you are fair game to be monitored.
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Interesting discussion on Bongino about how the NSA can spy on you. He played and interview with Sebastion Gorka that talked about it. My take is, if you are using VPN and routing your data through a foreign server you are fair game to be monitored.
I’m not listening to him today but my understanding is that’s correct. There is a set of agreements between countries called 14/9/5 eyes that makes it easier for the US to spy on you if the VPN is based in one of these countries. But even if not that doesn’t guarantee they won’t. Even if the VPN doesn’t log, they can be forced to prospectively log you without notice and it’s thought you can’t rely on warrant canaries either.
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Don't be jealous just because you can't work a simple internet BBS. Does your VCR still flash 12:00? :)
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There was also a report Bongino talked about that the DOJ could consider half the Trump voters domestic terrorists.
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There was also a report Bongino talked about that the DOJ could consider half the Trump voters domestic terrorists.
Absolutely! I myself considered going to DC on Jan 6 and probably mentioned that in my texts or on this forum. They’re probably getting secret warrants to investigate the “web” of “radicals” that had any intentions of going there whether we did or not. Meanwhile the BLM/Antifa rioters are righteous social justice activists.
I warned about this when Bush signed the Patriot Act. I said, “the government is going to end up turning this on its own citizens”. I just didn’t think it would happen so soon. :'(
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There was also a report Bongino talked about that the DOJ could consider half the Trump voters domestic terrorists.
Yep.
And of course, totally ignore ANTIFA (It's just an idea- Biden) and BLM.
ANTIFA and BLM, both DCP organizations, have openly committed domestic terrorism including burning down buildings, attacking federal buildings, attacking local and federal officers and murder. They have yet to be held accountable.
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Noticing that antifa and blm are racist, terror organizations is VERY RACIST!
Re-education camp for you!
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The DCP is now using a technique in which anyone they disapprove or disagree is an "Enemy of the State".
Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, Mussolini, Xi, Castro, Chavez, Mudurro, Ceaușescu, etc all used the same formula.
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More info on the method the NSA uses to spy on any US citizen.
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/07/how_traffic_sha.html (https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/07/how_traffic_sha.html)
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2017/07/more_on_the_nsa_2.html (https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2017/07/more_on_the_nsa_2.html)
https://www.zdnet.com/article/legal-loopholes-unrestrained-nsa-surveillance-on-americans/ (https://www.zdnet.com/article/legal-loopholes-unrestrained-nsa-surveillance-on-americans/)
https://noise.getoto.net/2017/07/12/more-on-the-nsas-use-of-traffic-shaping/ (https://noise.getoto.net/2017/07/12/more-on-the-nsas-use-of-traffic-shaping/)
https://news.slashdot.org/story/17/06/30/2345227/nsa-traffic-shaping-can-divert-us-internet-traffic-for-easier-monitoring (https://news.slashdot.org/story/17/06/30/2345227/nsa-traffic-shaping-can-divert-us-internet-traffic-for-easier-monitoring)
Enjoy
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Absolutely! I myself considered going to DC on Jan 6 and probably mentioned that in my texts or on this forum. They’re probably getting secret warrants to investigate the “web” of “radicals” that had any intentions of going there whether we did or not. Meanwhile the BLM/Antifa rioters are righteous social justice activists.
I warned about this when Bush signed the Patriot Act. I said, “the government is going to end up turning this on its own citizens”. I just didn’t think it would happen so soon. :'(
RACISM.
Amen Sister. Bush has again revealed himself time and again as a Progressive Globalist. Holding hands with the Fascist Racist Michelle Obama sealed the deal. The intelligence agencies are the new STASI and the military has their tip of the spear pointed at us whom they now characterize as White Supremacists. They're using Climate Change to over regulate us and fake Systemic Racism to demonize us like the Nazis did to the Jews.
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https://www.axios.com/tucker-carlson-putin-interview-surveillance-c9952d7c-33d7-45e9-be68-2ba4c3817f98.html?utm_campaign=organic&utm_medium=socialshare&utm_source=twitter
Tucker Carlson was talking to U.S.-based Kremlin intermediaries about setting up an interview with Vladimir Putin shortly before the Fox News host accused the National Security Agency of spying on him, sources familiar with the conversations tell Axios.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1412932838538702849
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https://www.axios.com/tucker-carlson-putin-interview-surveillance-c9952d7c-33d7-45e9-be68-2ba4c3817f98.html?utm_campaign=organic&utm_medium=socialshare&utm_source=twitter
I’ve been following this on Tucker’s show. I’m hoping Tucker has ex-SF body guards.