It's an excuse to try and pass gun control legislation which furthers the goal of controlling the population. The President called for a reinstatement of the assault weapons ban today. It didn't work after Sandy Hook and it won't work now.

Pieces of shit. Never let a crisis go to waste, especially one that you're ultimately responsible for creating.

And yet the left and Hillary blame Trump for the violence, and destruction because he "creates the environment."

Of course.  And the media joyfully joins in with the talking points.

However, a lot of Americans are tiring of the charades and seeing through this.

I had totally forgotten this thread!

Not a whole lot of riding yet this year, for a variety of reasons, but got out with some friends today for a nice ride in the mountains.

Karen got a new hip about 6 months ago, and is still not comfortable climbing onto the back of a bike. So today we took the '98 K1200RS sidecar rig. Rode along the Ocoee on US64, then to Benton, TN to a Mennonite farm for some veggies, then to Tellico Plains for a snack at Tellico Grains Bakery, then back home.

In front of the bakery:



There's an Airhead rally coming up near Boone, NC in about 10 days, and we're going to try that - it will be our first motorcycle camping trip since the surgery. Great group that accepts us as Airheads, even if we don't currently own one. That may change in the future!

Perhaps coercion is too harsh a word after review of the dictionary definition. Let me rephrase: I am completely comfortable with structuring things in society to make it difficult for those who refuse to get vaccinated. I agree that it should stop well short of "threat of force or violence".

PS - There is every reason people should be convinced of the virtues of getting vaccinated. And yet, we have a segment society that is loony toons about them. There is no compelling argument that would convince these folks, so we push them to get vaccinated in other ways.

Again, your liberalism is betraying you.

Encourage people, don't force/push people.

and, just in case you are confused about my own view of vaccinations.  I have been vaccinated.  While I understand the real risks, I also understand the benefits.  I don't believe the loony toon morons that think vaccinations are a plot to <fill in the blank>

Every good progressive would roll their eyes and say, "YEAH??? But she's OUR liar!!!"

That's what the Trumpkins insist Republicans do.

Obviously the officer made a mistake.  But I don't think an officer's mistake necessarily rises to a civil rights violation.

If telling someone they will be arrested if they don't waive their Constitutional rights is not a civil rights violation, I don't know what is.

I'm lucky in a way. My vote doesn't matter anyway. Hillary will easily take California, it's a given. I can vote for neither and know full well I didn't help, nor hinder the preprogramed outcome. I will not be voting for either of these wretched people.