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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: nddons on January 29, 2016, 06:40:47 AM

Title: 4th Quarter 2015 GDP: 0.7%!!
Post by: nddons on January 29, 2016, 06:40:47 AM
Just released within the last 10 minutes.

http://bea.gov/newsreleases/national/GDP/GDPnewsrelease.htm

What will Obama's excuse be this time, and how will the Democrat candidates spin this in light of their "the economy is GREAT!" messages?
Title: Re: 4th Quarter 2015 GDP: 0.7%!!
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 29, 2016, 06:46:51 AM
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 The Bureau emphasized that the fourth-quarter advance estimate released today is based on source data that are incomplete or subject to further revision by the source agency (see the box on page 4 and "Comparisons of Revisions to GDP" on page 5). The "second" estimate for the fourth quarter, based on more complete data, will be released on February 26, 2016.


Translated means, "we'll find a way to jack these numbers up so they look better"
Title: Re: 4th Quarter 2015 GDP: 0.7%!!
Post by: Johnh on January 29, 2016, 06:55:21 AM
Just released within the last 10 minutes.

http://bea.gov/newsreleases/national/GDP/GDPnewsrelease.htm

What will Obama's excuse be this time, and how will the Democrat candidates spin this in light of their "the economy is GREAT!" messages?
My guess is that the snow in Washington last week will get a good bit of blame.
Oh yeah, and George Bush and Dick Cheney will get the rest.
Title: Re: 4th Quarter 2015 GDP: 0.7%!!
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 29, 2016, 06:56:57 AM
Just released within the last 10 minutes.

http://bea.gov/newsreleases/national/GDP/GDPnewsrelease.htm

What will Obama's excuse be this time, and how will the Democrat candidates spin this in light of their "the economy is GREAT!" messages?

anyone remember if the initial reports are often corrected up, down, or no trend?

Title: Re: 4th Quarter 2015 GDP: 0.7%!!
Post by: pilot_dude on January 29, 2016, 07:12:37 AM
anyone remember if the initial reports are often corrected up, down, or no trend?
My recollection (can't validate with statistical data) is that they are generally revised downward.  Or am I thinking about employment numbers?
Title: 4th Quarter 2015 GDP: 0.7%!!
Post by: nddons on January 29, 2016, 07:51:49 AM


Translated means, "we'll find a way to jack these numbers up so they look better DEPENDING ON HOW HILLARY DOES IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE"


FTFY
Title: Re: 4th Quarter 2015 GDP: 0.7%!!
Post by: acrogimp on January 29, 2016, 08:12:16 AM
Almost always revised down, look for around .5% when 'fixed'.

'Gimp
Title: Re: 4th Quarter 2015 GDP: 0.7%!!
Post by: Anthony on January 30, 2016, 08:03:37 AM
Anemic, but the Democrat/Progressives always point to how great the "stock market" is doing.  What rate of return did the major markets get in 2015?  I'll tell you.  They were flat, and now trending downward.  Which means with inflation people lost money, and had effective negative returns. 

This economy sucks, and has sucked for the last 8 years or more.  Look at wage "growth".  That's negative also.  Look at laobor participation, not the phony unemployment "rate".