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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on March 15, 2018, 07:59:01 AM
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Minneapolis police say no arrests have been made after a student carrying a flag with the word “Trump” on it was assaulted outside of Southwest High School.
Police say the altercation happened while students were outside of the building during National School Walkout Day Wednesday morning.
As students were observing a moment of silence, two students confronted the flag-baring student across the street from campus.
Six other students joined in the confrontation, taking away his flag, damaging his camera and inflicting minor injuries.
Their parents must be so proud. Not only are their children snowflakes, but they are bullies and fascists to go with it.
For link pansies, here it is: http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/03/14/trump-flag-assault/
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Around the country, thousands upon thousands of students walked out of their classrooms on March 14 to peacefully protest inaction on gun laws in the aftermath of the deadly Florida school shooting last month.
And then there was Antioch High School near Nashville, Tenn.
Some of the students who walked out of class at the school Wednesday pulled down an American flag hanging from a flagpole, video shows.
Some students jumped on a police car, Nashville police told News Channel 5.
http://www.kentucky.com/news/nation-world/national/article205235894.html#fmp#storylink=cpy
I'm certain many of these future prison inmates learned this behavior from their Farrakhan adoring parents
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Minneapolis police say no arrests have been made after a student carrying a flag with the word “Trump” on it was assaulted outside of Southwest High School.
Police say the altercation happened while students were outside of the building during National School Walkout Day Wednesday morning.
As students were observing a moment of silence, two students confronted the flag-baring student across the street from campus.
Six other students joined in the confrontation, taking away his flag, damaging his camera and inflicting minor injuries.
Their parents must be so proud. Not only are their children snowflakes, but they are bullies and fascists to go with it.
For link pansies, here it is: http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/03/14/trump-flag-assault/
Don't "news" outlets hire freaking editors anymore?
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Don't "news" outlets hire freaking editors anymore?
AND OF COURSE the Minneapolis police chose not to file criminal charges....
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Minneapolis police say no arrests have been made after a student carrying a flag with the word “Trump” on it was assaulted outside of Southwest High School.
Police say the altercation happened while students were outside of the building during National School Walkout Day Wednesday morning.
As students were observing a moment of silence, two students confronted the flag-baring student across the street from campus.
Six other students joined in the confrontation, taking away his flag, damaging his camera and inflicting minor injuries.
Their parents must be so proud. Not only are their children snowflakes, but they are bullies and fascists to go with it.
For link pansies, here it is: http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/03/14/trump-flag-assault/
“No arrests have been made.” The Florida shooter has several felony-level assaults that could have resulted in arrest, if not for Eric Holder’s “Dear Colleague” directive that caused schools to alter their disciplinary procedures to effectively not discipline students.
“In an unprecedented, controversial manner, the Obama Administration took action to ensure that race was not a factor in school suspension decisions. Through the Supportive School Discipline Initiative and a “Dear Colleague memo,” the U.S. Justice Department and Education Department under the Obama Administration threatened public school districts with legal penalties in order to change their disciplinary policies. The letter told schools that unlawful discrimination can occur if it has a disproportionate effect on minority students and the school cannot justify the difference. None of these actions went through the traditional rulemaking, regulatory process – or were implemented into law though Congress.
“School districts changed disciplinary policies to comply. Since 2011-2012, according to the Manhattan Institute, over 50 of the largest school districts and 27 states changed their laws or policies relating to school discipline.
“Attorney General Eric Holder and Education Secretary Arne Duncan held a joint press conference to release a “Dear Colleague” letter to school districts issuing guidance on school discipline that will likely encourage districts to make race a significant factor in deciding how to administer punishment.”
http://bwcentral.org/2018/03/from-obama-to-parkland-remembering-eric-holder-arne-duncan-and-the-new-public-school-policy/
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AND OF COURSE the Minneapolis police chose not to file criminal charges....
Do they have a positive identity and proof of actions taken? The lack of that is frequently the reason charges are never filed. If the event boils down to he said/she said then it will fail in any court, so don't waste the time. No DA is going to prosecute something where they cannot show facts in court.
Since a school resource officer broke up whatever was happening, it probably just went down as a reported incidence of a school fight. There are typically not criminal charges in these cases.
you need to pick your battles better. This one is very weak, it's essentially a school resource officer breaking up a politically motivated schoolyard fight.
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Here is one from Facebook.
Kids at our school today walked out, in honor of the 17 students killed in Florida. Students held signs that said, “Arm our teachers” they had two signs. A student walked out without saying a word peacefully put up his sign which said “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” he was escorted off the property by our principal and threatened to be put into a police car. This violates the first amendment and makes me sick that they can do whatever they want. Please make this go viral. Location: New Prague High school, Minnesota.
Link for anyone on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/kenny.macdonald.9619/videos/1824236487650483/?hc_ref=ARQcMyCkTf1PDY55N6m2ZAn6aV9fJJkYqIRlIbcH6dd6CYHVXTgO9Jg0OtvPeyBNJ28&fref=nf
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Do they have a positive identity and proof of actions taken? The lack of that is frequently the reason charges are never filed. If the event boils down to he said/she said then it will fail in any court, so don't waste the time. No DA is going to prosecute something where they cannot show facts in court.
Since a school resource officer broke up whatever was happening, it probably just went down as a reported incidence of a school fight. There are typically not criminal charges in these cases.
you need to pick your battles better. This one is very weak, it's essentially a school resource officer breaking up a politically motivated schoolyard fight.
Just an FYI: What are SROs? School Resource Officers (SROs) are sworn, licensed career peace officers with arrest powers who work full- or part-time in Minnesota public schools.
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Just an FYI: What are SROs? School Resource Officers (SROs) are sworn, licensed career peace officers with arrest powers who work full- or part-time in Minnesota public schools.
"Resource Officer"; What an Orwellian term.
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Just an FYI: What are SROs? School Resource Officers (SROs) are sworn, licensed career peace officers with arrest powers who work full- or part-time in Minnesota public schools.
Careful, or you'll trigger the progressive pansy.
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Just an FYI: What are SROs? School Resource Officers (SROs) are sworn, licensed career peace officers with arrest powers who work full- or part-time in Minnesota public schools.
Ummm....DUH?! Of course they are sworn officers.
Do you have the expectation that a SRO will arrest children who have a schoolyard fight? This is what I mean by this being really weak. Kids are still learning self control and restraint, we don't turn them into lifetime criminals because they mess it up once.
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Ummm....DUH?! Of course they are sworn officers.
Do you have the expectation that a SRO will arrest children who have a schoolyard fight? This is what I mean by this being really weak. Kids are still learning self control and restraint, we don't turn them into lifetime criminals because they mess it up once.
Only conservative viewpoint expressed. Liberals are immune to punishment. Read and understand reply 4.
Wait - I forgot the gratuitous 'duh'.
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Only conservative viewpoint expressed. Liberals are immune to punishment. Read and understand reply 4.
So you do expect that a SRO will arrest children for a schoolyard fight. Well, ok. That isn't what most people think, but whatever. I don't get the feeling that you've thought this through all the way.
I really don't think there is a correlation between this and Florida. Cruz had a long list of offenses at school that resulted in his expulsion. The behaviors are not similar in any way.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article201216104.html
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A) I didn't mention FL, so whatev. Talking about the assault of a conservative student in MN.
B) I didn't mention arresting anyone, so - nice strawman you tossed up there when replying to ME.
C) Since YOU brought it up, the SRO is a badged officer of the law. And lets not relate it to FL, the LEO is negligent if he witnesses a crime and doesn't take action. Now, as for arresting someone, that is an option, but there are other tools in the bag, like a suspension, citation, detention, alternative program, and of course finally - arrest. Nice that you went right for the full boat to make YOUR point. Not mine.
D) I don't think you think at all, much less through. Try to respond to what I write and not some made-up goober idea you pull from someone else.
Rent, buy or borrow a clue or better, put me on ignore so I don't have to school you EVERY thread.
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A) I didn't mention FL, so whatev. Talking about the assault of a conservative student in MN.
B) I didn't mention arresting anyone, so - nice strawman you tossed up there when replying to ME.
C) Since YOU brought it up, the SRO is a badged officer of the law. And lets not relate it to FL, the LEO is negligent if he witnesses a crime and doesn't take action. Now, as for arresting someone, that is an option, but there are other tools in the bag, like a suspension, citation, detention, alternative program, and of course finally - arrest. Nice that you went right for the full boat to make YOUR point. Not mine.
Did you read post #4 that you directed me to? It starts out -“No arrests have been made.” The Florida shooter has several felony-level assaults that could have resulted in arrest ...
So, you directed me to a post which talks about A) Florida and B) arrests and criticizes the SROs in Florida for NOT making arrests. Furthermore, the word arrest is the 5th word of the thread. Your own reply #7 tried to attack me as if I didn't know that SROs were LEOs...you brought that up. Now you are backpedaling over these things coming into the discussion?
I honestly cannot follow what you're trying to say right now. The only thing I can come up with is that you want to attack that liberal badge under my name, but you don't know how to disagree with me.
BTW, court ruling - an SRO, being a LEO, cannot detain a student via detention and cannot suspend a student, those are administrative tools of the teachers and administration. A citation is certainly a possibility, although I don't know what "alternative program" means. You're suggesting that a LEO has something between citation and arrest to use?
This is a case of a single incident. One student showed bad taste in parading a Trump sign as a counter protest to the walkout...maybe one day someone who understands why he did that can explain it because I don't get how it's related. Then 8 other students showed bad judgement in trying to attack the lone student. An SRO broke up the fight. It's a schoolyard scuffle, not a "Liberal" trying to silence free speech and not something that requires an arrest.
My whole point of this thread is that it was overblown. We didn't need to be talking about arrests.
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As usual, you missed the important part of #4. WHY there were no arrests. Let me clear it up.
The student who was beaten was a conservative and expressed a conservative viewpoint. The students who were doing the beating were liberal scum, who are protected by the prev administration, who has tied the hands of everyone in the school system. It really is that simple. I hope you can follow these common usage words. I really can't make it any dumber for you.
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As usual, you missed the important part of #4. WHY there were no arrests. Let me clear it up.
The student who was beaten was a conservative and expressed a conservative viewpoint. The students who were doing the beating were liberal scum, who are protected by the prev administration, who has tied the hands of everyone in the school system. It really is that simple. I hope you can follow these common usage words. I really can't make it any dumber for you.
So are you saying now there should have been arrests? I thought we had agreed there shouldn't have been, so whether or not you think they're allowed is irrelevant.
I read what was said in reply #4, but I disregarded it as partisan rhetoric because it's false. In NC, SROs derive their power from the state government and are permitted to make arrests for criminal activity. I don't know how you think a dictate from DC changes their authority. They are not required to make an arrest for every crime. Assault is a criminal activity, but in the context of a schoolyard fight, an arrest would be overkill.
My original premise still stands - this is a stupid event to hang a "free speech is being impaired" hat on. In fact, you don't know the political orientation of the 8 students who wanted to beat up the one or at least you haven't presented those facts to anyone.
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So are you saying now there should have been arrests?
Just a couple of statements that I think we would all agree on:
If someone beats on someone else, short of self defense, they should be arrested.
If Conservatives are arrested for a certain type of actions, then Liberals should be arrested if they participate in the same type of action.
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If someone beats on someone else, short of self defense, they should be arrested.
So an immature teen who loses his temper should be arrested and gain a criminal record when what they're guilty of is being too immature to let the water roll off their back?
Additionally, when facts cannot be recorded correctly, arrests are just paperwork, they'll do nothing except teach someone that they're immune to prosecution.
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Stop: getting wrapped around the axle on arrest/no arrest.
Start: paying attention to equal treatment under the law.
We have a new thread here that a kid didn't want to go out and protest with his liberal goon admin, teachers and students. So what happens? He gets suspended for NOT following the prog lemmings.
jeealou, how can someone be so obtuse?
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So an immature teen who loses his temper should be arrested and gain a criminal record when what they're guilty of is being too immature to let the water roll off their back?
Arrest does not equal criminal record. A juvenile hearing and a good scolding by a judge would be appropriate, for a first offense. The hearing just may uncover important, ongoing facts.
Additionally, when facts cannot be recorded correctly,
Why do you assume that facts will not be recorded correctly.[/quote]
arrests are just paperwork, they'll do nothing except teach someone that they're immune to prosecution.
I think that is a false assumption. An arrest, followed by a hearing and a warning could be very effective for most kids that have not yet developed into hardened criminals.
I remember every time I have been stopped for a moving violation, and I appreciated it every time I got a warning and it made me think twice many times since when I found myself speeding or changing lanes without a signal. I have also been cited and fined a few times, and those too had a continuing effect on me. I haven't been stopped in over 30 years because I learned a lesson when I was young and impressionable.
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So an immature teen who loses his temper should be arrested and gain a criminal record when what they're guilty of is being too immature to let the water roll off their back?
Additionally, when facts cannot be recorded correctly, arrests are just paperwork, they'll do nothing except teach someone that they're immune to prosecution.
Your progressive violin is playing rather loudly....
My heart does not bleed for you.
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What if this were 8 white kids taking it out on a minority student, is this just bad judgement/schoolyard scuffle?
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Arrest does not equal criminal record. A juvenile hearing and a good scolding by a judge would be appropriate, for a first offense. The hearing just may uncover important, ongoing facts.
Why do you assume that facts will not be recorded correctly.I think that is a false assumption. An arrest, followed by a hearing and a warning could be very effective for most kids that have not yet developed into hardened criminals.
I remember every time I have been stopped for a moving violation, and I appreciated it every time I got a warning and it made me think twice many times since when I found myself speeding or changing lanes without a signal. I have also been cited and fined a few times, and those too had a continuing effect on me. I haven't been stopped in over 30 years because I learned a lesson when I was young and impressionable.
A lot of kids today are not young an impressionable. They're blase and put off by the establishment. To some of them, a judge lecturing from the bench is just an old guy using his power to bully younger people. They have been told their whole lives that they're special and their parents have proven to them that it's always someone else's fault.
There are many situations, especially in government jobs, where the question about being arrested comes up. In many of those, they mean even arrested and not charged. Personally, I'd rather have the SRO in the school, not tied up shepherding Johnny and Billy through an arrest process that is going to go south as soon as their parents get the lawyer involved and the case gets thrown out or pled without them even seeing the inside of a courtroom. But there is still a record of the arrest and an obligation to be report being arrested on questions like 18v on the medical.
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Well, lets just generalize some more to make a point. Why were students encouraged to protest for gun control? Because students are impressionable! Look at what's happening in every education system in the US. It's completely full to the brim of nothing but liberal indoctrination. That's exactly what the admins and teachers were going for in this event. Further, it clearly showed there are no consequence for attacking and belittling someone who has a different point of view. It would be SO easy to go with the Godwin reference here, but I'll not take the bait.
Attack a conservative - no repercussions. Protest liberal cause, respect from authority. What a shame the liberals refuse to see the impression this leaves on youth, who are soaking up crap from these single minded progs.
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BFlynn has reminds me, again, that the agenda of the progressive/leftist/democrat party is to enlarge and sustain the double standard in all things. BFlynn thinks nothing of equality when babbling about those poor misunderstood thugs because they just happen to be obeying the Marxist agenda he and his lemmings support.
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BFlynn has reminde me
Let me reminde you again that your previous vitriol has pretty much dulled the message of anything else that you have to say. Your hate has literally cost you your credibility.
Oh, and quit being such a fucking amateur. I've had chiefs bitching me out who were a WHOLE lot better at this than you are. Believe me, you're not making a dent. So step it up or give it up. I could use something entertaining, but lately what you've brought has just been eye-rolling level weak.
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I wonder if the ban the AR-15 crowd or the no guns sold to anyone unde 21 group would give up a part of their 1st Amendment right?
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Let me reminde you again that your previous vitriol has pretty much dulled the message of anything else that you have to say. Your hate has literally cost you your credibility.
Oh, and quit being such a fucking amateur. I've had chiefs bitching me out who were a WHOLE lot better at this than you are. Believe me, you're not making a dent. So step it up or give it up. I could use something entertaining, but lately what you've brought has just been eye-rolling level weak.
Lonely?
Poor fucking pansy.
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I wonder if the ban the AR-15 crowd or the no guns sold to anyone unde 21 group would give up a part of their 1st Amendment right?
They probably don't recognize it, but if they get their way, they're giving up protection of all their other rights.
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Lonely?
Poor fucking pansy.
I say grow a pair and this is what you can come up with? Wow how frickin' weak, if I wanted to break your spine, I'd have to shove a broomstick down your throat first.
Keep trying, one day you'll say something intelligent.
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I say grow a pair and this is what you can come up with? Wow how frickin' weak, if I wanted to break your spine, I'd have to shove a broomstick down your throat first.
Keep trying, one day you'll say something intelligent.
Are you feeling triggered?
Poor snowflake.
Mayby you can find some quiet and calmness in mom's basement with all the other useless liberal pansies.
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Are you feeling triggered?
Poor snowflake.
Mayby you can find some quiet and calmness in mom's basement with all the other useless liberal pansies.
Aren't you from Florida? What the hell is a basement?
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Are you feeling triggered?
Nope. I'm having fun. Every time you bring your lame insults, I'll throw out a good few of my own. I think of it as a game.
If you don't like my sarcasm, well, I don't like your stupid. Some babies were dropped on their heads, but you were clearly thrown against the wall.
Your turn...
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I wonder if the ban the AR-15 crowd or the no guns sold to anyone unde 21 group would give up a part of their 1st Amendment right?
They would though! They are all for Canadian, British, Spanish, and other European non-free speech laws, where you can get arrested and charged for criticizing Islam or the ruling class.
I look forward to the time when I can challenge someone buying into European style speech laws and say that they would be arrested shortly for calling me a racist or Nazi.
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Nope. I'm having fun. Every time you bring your lame insults, I'll throw out a good few of my own. I think of it as a game.
If you don't like my sarcasm, well, I don't like your stupid. Some babies were dropped on their heads, but you were clearly thrown against the wall.
Your turn...
I realize how upsetting it is when a snowflake progressive like you gives orders and the other person refuses to pay you any mind.
Let me be clear (I just know you love Obama-isms), you are an insignifiacnt flea to me and everything time you act out it just drives you lower on the adult scale.
Good luck with that target on your back, nancy.
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I realize how upsetting it is when a snowflake progressive like you gives orders and the other person refuses to pay you any mind.
Let me be clear (I just know you love Obama-isms), you are an insignifiacnt flea to me and everything time you act out it just drives you lower on the adult scale.
Good luck with that target on your back, nancy.
LOLOLOLOLOL.
"Target"? Wow, you lose.