PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on March 16, 2018, 09:40:04 AM
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https://ijr.com/2018/03/1076385-ohio-student-suspended-refusing-to-leave-classroom/
A high school student in Hilliard, Ohio, didn’t want to pick sides in the contentious gun debate surrounding Wednesday’s “National Walkout,” so he stayed in class instead of joining the largely anti-gun protest or an alternative “study hall.”
Hilliard Davidson High School senior Jacob Shoemaker was then reportedly slapped with a suspension.
The student argued that divisive politics have no place in America’s schools and he refused to take sides in the debate, according to the Associated Press.
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https://ijr.com/2018/03/1076385-ohio-student-suspended-refusing-to-leave-classroom/
I hope the parents have the money to sue the living shit out of that school district.
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But it was OK that the teachers, administrators, and other students ABANDONED their classrooms, and took our tax dollars to do a Partisan protest.
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The double standard of hypocrisy in education is always front and center.
The educational cabal is infested with trash, snowflakes, communists and lying scum. Who expect anything less than this from those losers?
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In this case the choice was to go to the protest or go to study hall, he refused both and wanted to stay in the classroom unattended. There are still rules in school and he chose to go against them.
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Perhaps staying in his classroom was his form of protest. Students protesting, admin protesting, teachers protesting, but - he is singled out for his protest? hmmmmm
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In typical Marxist fashion, the publicly funded indoctrination brigade CHOSE to go after the ONE who refused to violate the rules.
His crime was that he refused to support the MARXIST leadership, that probably belong to one of the BLM spin offs and that infuriated the junior Lenins.
I would love to see his parents sue the shit out of those responsible, instead of the school district. That would be epic.
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In typical Marxist fashion, the publicly funded indoctrination brigade CHOSE to go after the ONE who refused to violate the rules.
His crime was that he refused to support the MARXIST leadership, that probably belong to one of the BLM spin offs and that infuriated the junior Lenins.
I would love to see his parents sue the shit out of those responsible, instead of the school district. That would be epic.
Do you even understand the words you use? Are you asserting that the school leadership advocates for a war between social classes, eventually eliminating all class and living in a classless society? And if so, what does that have to do with this story, other than your desire to call people names? Why not just stick to poo-poo head and be done with it?
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In this case the choice was to go to the protest or go to study hall, he refused both and wanted to stay in the classroom unattended. There are still rules in school and he chose to go against them.
I didn't see that in the linked article, but if that's true it certainly changes the story. He should've gone to study hall and then filed a protest with the school district (or his parents should have, rather).
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In typical Marxist fashion, the publicly funded indoctrination brigade CHOSE to go after the ONE who refused to violate the rules.
His crime was that he refused to support the MARXIST leadership, that probably belong to one of the BLM spin offs and that infuriated the junior Lenins.
I would love to see his parents sue the shit out of those responsible, instead of the school district. That would be epic.
What?
He didn't commit any crime, nor is he being charged with a crime. He was suspended for not following instructions from a teacher. We can debate whether or not the options presented were fair and whether or not his actions were justified, but it wasn't a crime.
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There is nothing to debate. The marxists went after him for refusing to surrender to their political Marxist agenda.
Truly disgusting and worthy of a destructive lawsuit.
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There is nothing to debate. The marxists went after him for refusing to surrender to their political Marxist agenda.
Truly disgusting and worthy of a destructive lawsuit.
You skipped over what EppyGA stated in reference to him not going to study hall but rather staying in the classroom. If that's true (hopefully EppyGA will provide a link) then it changes the story.
You can call them "Marxists" all you want, but that has yet to be proven.
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When government employees choose political sides, that is one thing. When they use their station to persecute those who dare not take the side they advocate, you are talking marxism. IF the conflict was simply over where the student would spend his time while thew assholes made their repeat protest, then that would be one thing to consider, but we know that in another school a student was threatened with arrest for holding an American flag, so there is plenty of government funded marcists int his argument.
We've been allowing this type of abuse to go on for way too long, because the fucking losers that make up most of the teaching profession these days whine so much that no one wants to deal with them.
Being a big enough pussy can have advantages and we've allowed them for far too long.
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This was NOT a protest. It was a Government sanctioned, and sponsored exercise to advance the Democrat agenda of the American Federation of Teachers, the National Education Association, and other high dollar, high powered Democrat lobbying groups. Once again, they took Rahm's advice, and didn't let a crisis go to waste.
Education, the Media, and most of Government is run by Far Left Democrats. It is a huge conflict of interest, yet the Lemmings in our country don't see it, or don't want to see it.
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IF the conflict was simply over where the student would spend his time while thew assholes made their repeat protest, then that would be one thing to consider,
That's what EppyGA is suggesting happened, and you keep skipping over.
but we know that in another school a student was threatened with arrest for holding an American flag, so there is plenty of government funded marcists int his argument.
So because one incident happened in one school in one place, and something else happened in another school in another place, they're equivalents and we're going to indict all schools and all teachers?
I also don't know what the other incident was about but I'm sure there are other details that you left out.
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School dist fires back on Friday. Says now the walk out was not political, but was a mass memorial. Student was punished for not participating in either the walk out, or the non-participating students in the other room. They also say they didn't punish anyone for not participating. hmmmm
http://www.hilliardschools.org/facts-about-gatherings/
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http://video.foxnews.com/v/5753387880001/
Kid now says staying in class was his 'protest'.
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There was an alternative location for him to go and he chose not to. The school district's policy is to not leave students unattended in classrooms and he decided not to follow the rules. A suspension may have been a bit much but students can't just pick and choose which rules they want to follow.
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He stayed in the classroom alone, which was counter to the school administrator's instructions. For this he was suspended. End of story.
If something had happened to him you guys would be screaming up one side and down another about the school leaving the kid alone in a classroom. How dare they not supervise him.
More fake outrage. I'm starting to think L might be Russian.
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He stayed in the classroom alone, which was counter to the school administrator's instructions. For this he was suspended. End of story.
If something had happened to him you guys would be screaming up one side and down another about the school leaving the kid alone in a classroom. How dare they not supervise him.
More fake outrage. I'm starting to think L might be Russian.
Who's "L"?
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Only the correct political protests in school are allowed. All others not participating in the correct type of political protest get detention.
got it. 8)
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flynn is pretending to be rational and centrist.
The issue is as it always is, liberals choose to write and rewrite the rules.
Walking out of class for the proper protest - good.
NOT protesting what you're told to protest - bad.
Fucking liberals are a joke.
IF given a choice between believing a marxist parasite living off the taxpayers and a student who refused to play the marxist game, stay in school and not cut school, I'll take the non communist every day.
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Who's "L"?
The OP...I have a religious objection to typing his screen name. He has been posting a lot of outrageous stories that turn out to be half true at best.
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The OP...I have a religious objection to typing his screen name. He has been posting a lot of outrageous stories that turn out to be half true at best.
You're pathetic.
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Ooooooo..... so start doing a modicum of research before you post stuff. You're posting garbage, don't bitch to me about calling you on it.
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Ooooooo..... so start doing a modicum of research before you post stuff. You're posting garbage, don't bitch to me about calling you on it.
And you come on here and post inane diatribes to which several here have called you out on.
You're not required to read anything I post or even comment on it. But your inner progressive wants to silence someone for posting or writing about something you disagree with.
Pathetic.
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The bottom line for me is that this was a GOVERNMENT sponsored display of PARTISAN PROPAGANDA. Sponsored by the state, the American Federation of Teachers, the National Education Association and groups backed by Bloomberg, and Soros. All anti American orgs, and most using our TAX DOLLARS to promote a Democrat cause.
Huge conflict of interest. Do you think the schools would fund, and support an anti abortion, or pro Second Amendment rally?
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The bottom line for me is that this was a GOVERNMENT sponsored display of PARTISAN PROPAGANDA. Sponsored by the state, the American Federation of Teachers, the National Education Association and groups backed by Bloomberg, and Soros. All anti American orgs, and most using our TAX DOLLARS to promote a Democrat cause.
Huge conflict of interest. Do you think the schools would fund, and support an anti abortion, or pro Second Amendment rally?
No, but that's not the point of this post. The topic is about a student who was suspended by the school for refusing to leave the classroom. This isn't hard, nor is it a big deal. The only reason it's getting attention is because it's in the aftermath of the Parkland shooting. This kind of thing probably happens everyday, we just don't see it in the news because it's usually not newsworthy (and this shouldn't be, either).
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I guess all those pathetic, snowflakes in training that left school (which is an actual violation of school rules) and weren't suspended but only because their scumbag teacher AGREED with their political protest, are perfect little angels.
Typical bullshit double standard in a liberal education system that adores marxism...
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No, but that's not the point of this post. The topic is about a student who was suspended by the school for refusing to leave the classroom. This isn't hard, nor is it a big deal. The only reason it's getting attention is because it's in the aftermath of the Parkland shooting. This kind of thing probably happens everyday, we just don't see it in the news because it's usually not newsworthy (and this shouldn't be, either).
I don't care what the point of the post was, as it is irrelevant. My point IS relevant.
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I don't care what the point of the post was, as it is irrelevant. My point IS relevant.
Other than teacher salaries to monitor kids, how were our tax dollars spent?
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Other than teacher salaries to monitor kids, how were our tax dollars spent?
Instead of teaching, the teachers were "protesting". We lost a day of education, or at least part of a day. In addition, many schools provided the venue, sign making supplies, etc for the propaganda display. In Baltimore, taxpayers were forced to pay $100,000 to bus public school students down to D.C. for the propaganda display.
Public sector unions spent money to support, and publicize this display. They get their money from taxpayers.
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Instead of teaching, the teachers were "protesting". We lost a day of education, or at least part of a day. In addition, many schools provided the venue, sign making supplies, etc for the propaganda display. In Baltimore, taxpayers were forced to pay $100,000 to bus public school students down to D.C. for the propaganda display.
Public sector unions spent money to support, and publicize this display. They get their money from taxpayers.
You are wasting your breathe talking to a brainwashed, lemming. He hasn’t been given permission to see the insanity of. Taxpayers funding teachers to brainwash children into ditching taxpayer funded education to try and convince Democrats to steal our constitutionally guaranteed rights.
Its too much of a leap for him and requires cognitive independence, which is hated by progressives even more than free speech.
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Instead of teaching, the teachers were "protesting". We lost a day of education, or at least part of a day. In addition, many schools provided the venue, sign making supplies, etc for the propaganda display. In Baltimore, taxpayers were forced to pay $100,000 to bus public school students down to D.C. for the propaganda display.
Public sector unions spent money to support, and publicize this display. They get their money from taxpayers.
I have not heard of students getting bused to any event. I agree that using money that way is criminal and those responsible should be disciplined.
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I have not heard of students getting bused to any event. I agree that using money that way is criminal and those responsible should be disciplined.
That’s the context that needs to be given Mayor Catherine Pugh’s announcement this week that Baltimore will pay as much as $100,000 to hire a fleet of buses to help transport city school students to a planned “March For Our Lives” national gun control protest in Washington, D.C., on March 24. In a different school district or a different time, it might be regarded as an inappropriate use of tax dollars to support what is essentially a political protest.
Certainly, it’s not difficult to find $100,000 in unmet needs in city schools, from malfunctioning furnaces to undrinkable water.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-0308-gun-protests-20180307-story.html
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-0308-gun-protests-20180307-story.html
And her school system has budget shortfalls already.
Insane.
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And her school system has budget shortfalls already.
Insane.
Tells you a lot about the constituency of Baltimore, and their values. The previous mayor, during the riots, told the police to "Let them LOOT, it's only property".
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Reading reports that Lacey Township in New Jersey suspended students for posting pictures on Facebook of them at the gun range. It was a private trip monitored by adults. The school administrators claim a policy that if a student possesses a gun on or off school property, they will be suspended.
Do these idiots not have a lawyer? I know I've seen this story before like 10 years ago where it said that schools cannot regulate what students do outside of school hours and off school property.
What is scarier is the number of people who seem to have no problem with it.
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Reading reports that Lacey Township in New Jersey suspended students for posting pictures on Facebook of them at the gun range. It was a private trip monitored by adults. The school administrators claim a policy that if a student possesses a gun on or off school property, they will be suspended.
Do these idiots not have a lawyer? I know I've seen this story before like 10 years ago where it said that schools cannot regulate what students do outside of school hours and off school property.
What is scarier is the number of people who seem to have no problem with it.
I have a lot of relatives in NJ, but I live across the Delaware River in PA. It is interesting to see the differences in me, and my PA relatives as compared to my NJ relatives who decided to live over there several decades ago. The NJ folks accept the Nanny/Police state that NJ has become. They are much more liberal/progressive than me, and our PA relatives. It is just weird what people will accept when indoctrinated over the years.
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Ugh, this type of stuff cries out for a Godwin reference. In lieu of that;
They came for the blacks, and I said nothing, as I am not black. They came for the jews, and I said nothing as I'm not a jew. They came for the elderly, and I said nothing as I am young...
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Liberalism IS A MENTAL DISORDER.
There is really very little that a liberal won't embrace, celebrate, demand and then go right out and scream about the opposite, because liberalism is a mental disorder.
When does the school stop stealing liberty from people? The liberal answer is, never. Liberals are insane to adopt the things they claim to support, while refusing to apply any common standard if the shoe is on the other foot.
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-0308-gun-protests-20180307-story.html
My wife and I both went through 12 years of Catholic school education. We did the same for our daughter. I never bitched about effectively paying twice for education, as so much of my property taxes went to pay for public schools.
But when I see waste like this, or the host of administrators that would make large public
companies embarrassed by the excessive waste, or the champaign-taste of public school bond requests, I feel like saying “fuck public education.” Make parents pay something for educating their fucking urchins. Make them feel the pain of seeing their money get wasted by teacher boondoggles and luxurious pensions and benefits that don’t exist in the private sector.
Fuck public education.
In the words of Judge Smails, “Well, the world needs ditch diggers too.”
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Respectfully, I would edit it to 'fuck LIBERAL public education funding.' Where I'm at, we have very good conservative public schools. None of this indoctrination mishigoss.