PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: bflynn on March 20, 2018, 06:47:42 AM
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Another school shooting in Maryland.
But, but, but...the progressives are going to stumble over this as yet more evidence that guns need to be controlled rather than people need to learn to control themselves.
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How was this shooting stopped? ;)
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How was this shooting stopped? ;)
Good guy with a gun. Shazaam!
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Hmmmmm..............
Not getting much national attention in the MSM.
Gee, wonder why? ::)
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Not news worthy, no scary AR or other scary assault rifle was used.
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Not news worthy, no scary AR or other scary assault rifle was used.
And someone who was armed stopped the shooter?
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It appears to have been a lover's quarrel, not a school shooting. A 17 year old boy shot his 16 year old ex girlfriend. No idea if the 14 year old boy was a bystander or maybe the new boyfriend.
Unclear right now whether the officer shot him or if he shot himself. Sad, life matters.
Expect CNN to sweep this under the rug quickly, they do NOT want people researching how a 17 year old got a gun in Maryland.
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Good gun control.
One shot, the criminal is dead.
Good outcome.
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Good outcome.
If you are callous enough to believe that someone dying because of a conflict is a good outcome, then yes.
I would have preferred if nobody died because nobody got violent. The violence is the fail.
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If you are callous enough to believe that someone dying because of a conflict is a good outcome, then yes.
I would have preferred if nobody died because nobody got violent. The violence is the fail.
Hmmmm, didn't someone recently chastise me for similar utopian thought? Why yes, yes they did.
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Hmmmm, didn't someone recently chastise me for similar utopian thought? Why yes, yes they did.
So you equate not having violent shootings with utopia? Setting the bar a little low there arent you skippy?
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If you are callous enough to believe that someone dying because of a conflict is a good outcome, then yes.
I would have preferred if nobody died because nobody got violent. The violence is the fail.
You’ve got to be shitting me. You MUST be just trolling Pilot Spin.
Someone dying who was trying to kill students IS a good outcome, if it stopped the carnage.
And what the fuck are you talking about that “nobody got violent.” The shooter shot and critically wounded two students.
Put the dope down. You’ve had enough.
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You’ve got to be shitting me. You MUST be just trolling Pilot Spin.
Someone dying who was trying to kill students IS a good outcome, if it stopped the carnage.
And what the fuck are you talking about that “nobody got violent.” The shooter shot and critically wounded two students.
Put the dope down. You’ve had enough.
I seriously think the bflynn is aunt peggy.
The pathetic nature of his stupidity is too much like her rambling bullshit.
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I seriously think the bflynn is aunt peggy.
The pathetic nature of his stupidity is too much like her rambling bullshit.
I think you’re on to something. The only difference is AP used to do a drive by and then disappear for days. Bflynn is trying to audition to fill in for Steingar’s spot when Steingar does his drive-by/disappearing act.
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You’ve got to be shitting me. You MUST be just trolling Pilot Spin.
Someone dying who was trying to kill students IS a good outcome, if it stopped the carnage.
And what the fuck are you talking about that “nobody got violent.” The shooter shot and critically wounded two students.
Put the dope down. You’ve had enough.
If you took the time to read it, what I stated is that a better outcome would have been if there hadn't been an attack in the first place.
Or are my Leftie friends right and Republicans are more concerned with crowing about an SRO working rather than life? BTW, I think they're full of shit on that, they care more about losing than they do life. But on the other hand what I'm hearing is that you're thrilled that an SRO shot a bad guy because it proves your position. Who cares that a life was lost as long as YOU won, right?
The answer, for me at least, is respect for life and for other people. All lives matter and ALL means everyone.
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You’ve got to be shitting me. You MUST be just trolling Pilot Spin.
have to agree with you on that one.
Put the dope down. You’ve had enough.
That, or the Doc needs to adjust the meds again.
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Maryland already has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country. It is a socialist hell hole, nanny state like NY, NJ, CT, RI, MA, HI, CA, etc
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With all the laws how did a 17 year old get a gun ;)
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Is this a good place to promote self-shooting guns to protect democrats from growing up to become mass killers?
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Ya'll are off the rails...I believe in the value of life and you think I need a doctor to give me meds. Take a hard look in the mirror.
As predicted, CNN is no longer talking about this.
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The mirror is a place progressive democrats never look, because the shock of their hypocrisy is too much to endure.
I hate to break it to you nancy, but a dead wanna-be mass shooter, is a YUGGEEEE improvement over seventeen dead students and teachers, because the fucking, progressive, pansy cops refused to take the shooter out. So run your progressive bullshit somewhere else. The adults here know the difference between bullshit, liberal, crocodile tears and reality.
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Let's all sing, come on now; 'kumbaya...'
Oh noooooooo a lunatic shooting people has been killed. Oh the huge manatee, violence has happened to the this poor misguided soul.
haaaaahahhahahahaaa. Sell that shit at Berkeley, not here.
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I was waiting for David Hogg to show up n CNN and praise the SRO in MD for taking out the shooter so
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If you took the time to read it, what I stated is that a better outcome would have been if there hadn't been an attack in the first place.
Or are my Leftie friends right and Republicans are more concerned with crowing about an SRO working rather than life? BTW, I think they're full of shit on that, they care more about losing than they do life. But on the other hand what I'm hearing is that you're thrilled that an SRO shot a bad guy because it proves your position. Who cares that a life was lost as long as YOU won, right?
The answer, for me at least, is respect for life and for other people. All lives matter and ALL means everyone.
Yea, I read it. I have difficulty living in the world of rainbows and unicorns. I’m what’s called a realist, and I deal with facts, not wishes.
The fact is a bad guy tried to kill students. Bad guy was quickly killed by good guy so bad guy couldn’t attempt to kill more people. End of story.
Grow up. It helps you live in the real world.
And as for your liberal friends talking about Republicans, they need to grow up too. Not a single liberal “solution” to school shootings like banning bump stocks, AR-15s, or anything else, would have stopped the Florida shooting or any school shooting. Not one.
But having armed officers in schools works. Proven by the MD shooting.
If you fail to point that out to your liberal friends, then you’re part of the problem, not the solution.
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Yea, I read it. I have difficulty living in the world of rainbows and unicorns. I’m what’s called a realist, and I deal with facts, not wishes.
The fact is a bad guy tried to kill students. Bad guy was quickly killed by good guy so bad guy couldn’t attempt to kill more people. End of story.
Grow up. It helps you live in the real world.
And as for your liberal friends talking about Republicans, they need to grow up too. Not a single liberal “solution” to school shootings like banning bump stocks, AR-15s, or anything else, would have stopped the Florida shooting or any school shooting. Not one.
But having armed officers in schools works. Proven by the MD shooting.
If you fail to point that out to your liberal friends, then you’re part of the problem, not the solution.
So in your realist world, school kids get shot? You have no thought that this could be different? Because it used to BE different, there was a time when getting shot was what happened if you went to New York or Chicago. But you're OK with it being the norm. Like I said, a rather low bar. I'm not OK with it and I'd like to find a way to eventually change the attitudes. Teaching respect and self-control are the start.
I agree that having officers in schools is a good idea. I have previously said so, but it seems you just wanted to try out some clever phrasing, and BTW, you got the saying wrong (if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem by default). Apparently I need to say that I support SROs in every post I make on the topic because you are painting me with a false brush. Regardless, what I do not agree with is celebrating someone's death, I view it as a failure that someone died. Life is important and the loss of life is bad.
Migrating a little - I'm rather indifferent to the right at the moment. Based on the people here, I have no interest in associating with Republicans at the moment. Apparently you don't think you need people like me who are in the middle and you seem to be doing everything you can to push me toward the left. Remember that I'm something like a 51 on a scale of 0-100, so very slightly right of center. If I'm thinking that you guys can just screw off, then Republicans are in very, very bad trouble in the mid terms.
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So in your realist world, school kids get shot? You have no thought that this could be different? Because it used to BE different, there was a time when getting shot was what happened if you went to New York or Chicago. But you're OK with it being the norm. Like I said, a rather low bar. I'm not OK with it and I'd like to find a way to eventually change the attitudes. Teaching respect and self-control are the start.
I agree that having officers in schools is a good idea. I have previously said so, but it seems you just wanted to try out some clever phrasing, and BTW, you got the saying wrong (if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem by default). Apparently I need to say that I support SROs in every post I make on the topic because you are painting me with a false brush. Regardless, what I do not agree with is celebrating someone's death, I view it as a failure that someone died. Life is important and the loss of life is bad.
Migrating a little - I'm rather indifferent to the right at the moment. Based on the people here, I have no interest in associating with Republicans at the moment. Apparently you don't think you need people like me who are in the middle and you seem to be doing everything you can to push me toward the left. Remember that I'm something like a 51 on a scale of 0-100, so very slightly right of center. If I'm thinking that you guys can just screw off, then Republicans are in very, very bad trouble in the mid terms.
I know “moderates” in the middle expect to be massaged from both sides, and hope for a happy ending on Election Day. Sorry, I’m not into making you feel relevant and important.
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I know “moderates” in the middle expect to be massaged from both sides, and hope for a happy ending on Election Day. Sorry, I’m not into making you feel relevant and important.
I do not need you.
I'm just observing that, based on what I see here and in other places, Republicans are going to get rocked in Nov because you've all become assholes.
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Migrating a little - I'm rather indifferent to the right at the moment. Based on the people here, I have no interest in associating with Republicans at the moment. Apparently you don't think you need people like me who are in the middle and you seem to be doing everything you can to push me toward the left. Remember that I'm something like a 51 on a scale of 0-100, so very slightly right of center. If I'm thinking that you guys can just screw off, then Republicans are in very, very bad trouble in the mid terms.
I feel the same, except the opposite. I am completely pissed at liberals these days. I too believe I am close to the center, but liberals make it sound like a crime if you even indicate that you agree with Trump on anything. Liberals get livid when things don't go their way and riot in the streets. If I mention something that Trump did that I agree with, I am accused of being a homophobic, racist, Islamaphobic, isolationist hate monger. I feel like I am being pushed farther and farther right than I am comfortable with because the left is moving further and further left.
I am pissed at the hypocrisy of the left. They were perfectly fine with Clinton assaulting an intern in the Oval office, but aghast when Trump was accused of having an affair before he was President. It was "genius" when Obama manipulated social media to target individual, but it is practically a Crime when Trump does it.
When Trump does anything good or constructive the MSM is deafeningly quiet, but when he does or says something stupid, which he is prone to do, they blast it 24/7. And it is vice-versa when Hillary or other liberal do the same things.
The examples go on and on. Since I generally believe in personal responsibility, and that if you encourage laziness you will get more laziness, I am lumped in with the likes of Hitler and Stalin.
I think what we need now is a good flood or plague of Biblical proportions and start over. At this point, I wouldn't even care if I am not one of the survivors.
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I do not need you.
I'm just observing that, based on what I see here and in other places, Republicans are going to get rocked in Nov because you've all become assholes.
Gee, what would motivate regular, conservative citizens to behave like or become assholes? ;)
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I feel the same, except the opposite. I am completely pissed at liberals these days. I too believe I am close to the center, but liberals make it sound like a crime if you even indicate that you agree with Trump on anything. Liberals get livid when things don't go their way and riot in the streets. If I mention something that Trump did that I agree with, I am accused of being a homophobic, racist, Islamaphobic, isolationist hate monger. I feel like I am being pushed farther and farther right than I am comfortable with because the left is moving further and further left.
I am pissed at the hypocrisy of the left. They were perfectly fine with Clinton assaulting an intern in the Oval office, but aghast when Trump was accused of having an affair before he was President. It was "genius" when Obama manipulated social media to target individual, but it is practically a Crime when Trump does it.
When Trump does anything good or constructive the MSM is deafeningly quiet, but when he does or says something stupid, which he is prone to do, they blast it 24/7. And it is vice-versa when Hillary or other liberal do the same things.
The examples go on and on. Since I generally believe in personal responsibility, and that if you encourage laziness you will get more laziness, I am lumped in with the likes of Hitler and Stalin.
I think what we need now is a good flood or plague of Biblical proportions and start over. At this point, I wouldn't even care if I am not one of the survivors.
In summary, Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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I do not need you.
I'm just observing that, based on what I see here and in other places, Republicans are going to get rocked in Nov because you've all become assholes.
Projecting again I see.
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I feel the same, except the opposite. I am completely pissed at liberals these days. I too believe I am close to the center, but liberals make it sound like a crime if you even indicate that you agree with Trump on anything. Liberals get livid when things don't go their way and riot in the streets. If I mention something that Trump did that I agree with, I am accused of being a homophobic, racist, Islamaphobic, isolationist hate monger. I feel like I am being pushed farther and farther right than I am comfortable with because the left is moving further and further left.
I am pissed at the hypocrisy of the left. They were perfectly fine with Clinton assaulting an intern in the Oval office, but aghast when Trump was accused of having an affair before he was President. It was "genius" when Obama manipulated social media to target individual, but it is practically a Crime when Trump does it.
When Trump does anything good or constructive the MSM is deafeningly quiet, but when he does or says something stupid, which he is prone to do, they blast it 24/7. And it is vice-versa when Hillary or other liberal do the same things.
The examples go on and on. Since I generally believe in personal responsibility, and that if you encourage laziness you will get more laziness, I am lumped in with the likes of Hitler and Stalin.
I think what we need now is a good flood or plague of Biblical proportions and start over. At this point, I wouldn't even care if I am not one of the survivors.
I don’t have a link but there is a leftist boycott on a hair salon in Des Moines because they had the gall to actually accept Ivanka Trump as a client when she was in Des Moines for a speech or something.
How do you deal with people like that? Bflynn? I’m all ears.
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http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/2018/03/21/ivanka-trumps-visit-to-iowa-salon-sparks-social-media-backlash.html
From Fox no less.
I agree - how do people like libs support this behavior?
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http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/2018/03/21/ivanka-trumps-visit-to-iowa-salon-sparks-social-media-backlash.html
From Fox no less.
I agree - how do people like libs support this behavior?
Wild, isn’t it? Yet to bflynn, it’s the asshole republicans who are the problem and will lose because we didn’t embrace the left and those special snowflakes in the middle who have no core convictions whatsoever.
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I would respectfully disagree about core convictions. I would say that libs have just as great a core conviction as conservatives. I would offer that their core convictions are misguided, and in some cases bizarre but they are adamant about the convictions they hold. Examples abound, and in this theme - they want the right to keep and bear to be revoked, the citizens disarmed, and a powerful, liberal gun protected central authority kept in place. This is the core conviction, and it is wrong, wrong, wrong.
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I would respectfully disagree about core convictions. I would say that libs have just as great a core conviction as conservatives. I would offer that their core convictions are misguided, and in some cases bizarre but they are adamant about the convictions they hold. Examples abound, and in this theme - they want the right to keep and bear to be revoked, the citizens disarmed, and a powerful, liberal gun protected central authority kept in place. This is the core conviction, and it is wrong, wrong, wrong.
I think you misunderstood me. I agree the left has great convictions, especially since we are moving closer and closer to a socialist state.
I was talking about the snowflakes in the middle not having core convictions. I’ve never understood that. Yet, we are told we must appeal to people without core convictions. I DO think that conservatives fail miserably in explaining the benefit is conservative values, but I also don’t think that they should compromise those values just to appeal to the mushy center.
Take abortion. I’m pro life, and much of the conservative movement is pro life. I’m also Catholic so that’s where my foundation comes from. When I see women demanding publicly funded abortion on demand, what exactly am I expected to compromise on? Where can there be common ground about killing babies?
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I think you misunderstood me. I agree the left has great convictions, especially since we are moving closer and closer to a socialist state.
I was talking about the snowflakes in the middle not having core convictions. I’ve never understood that. Yet, we are told we must appeal to people without core convictions. I DO think that conservatives fail miserably in explaining the benefit is conservative values, but I also don’t think that they should compromise those values just to appeal to the mushy center.
Take abortion. I’m pro life, and much of the conservative movement is pro life. I’m also Catholic so that’s where my foundation comes from. When I see women demanding publicly funded abortion on demand, what exactly am I expected to compromise on? Where can there be common ground about killing babies?
Perhaps conservatives should begin asking for free, on-demand abortions; especially for minorities. Then just sit back and wait for the MSM to convince people that is a terrible, racist idea.
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I think you misunderstood me. I agree the left has great convictions, especially since we are moving closer and closer to a socialist state.
I was talking about the snowflakes in the middle not having core convictions. I’ve never understood that. Yet, we are told we must appeal to people without core convictions. I DO think that conservatives fail miserably in explaining the benefit is conservative values, but I also don’t think that they should compromise those values just to appeal to the mushy center.
Take abortion. I’m pro life, and much of the conservative movement is pro life. I’m also Catholic so that’s where my foundation comes from. When I see women demanding publicly funded abortion on demand, what exactly am I expected to compromise on? Where can there be common ground about killing babies?
Thank you for clarifying. I took 'snowflake' as a hard left true believer in the mantra of progressive liberalism. Now it makes more sense.
I'm exceptionally far to the right, almost to the point of anarchy, but I am pro-choice, or pro-abortion if you will. Having no belief system which is recognizable to the common theologic principal leaves me with a program I generally call efficiency. It's based on many physics laws which have as a fundamental premise the best method is the most efficient(why light travels in a straight line, conservation of energy/momentum, etc). Abortion is the most efficient way of losing unwanted fetus. Not very human friendly but there it is. The alternatives given the life of unwanted people running around is much worse.
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I am uncompromising pro life conservative.
When I see, hear, or read the phrase 'Pro-Choice," I ask myself is these misguided cretins are actually claiming to be pro-homicide, because that's what abortion is. It is the murder of completely innocent unborn children because a useless, pathetic woman was too self obsessed to her own birth control, and now has become convinced that it is OK to commit murder to avoid the inconvenience of her choice to be so stupid and lazy as to be too useless to to take a moment and properly see to birth control.
Abortion is the sickness that is destroying America. Once the government chose to make children so worthless that killing them is not only OK, but funded by every working person in the country, the next logical step was always going to be euthanasia and once they get that going, they'll be killing all down;s syndrome children and the elderly and the disabled.
Liberalism is a sickness that demands the power to induce death to make up for all the failings liberals have lived through. If those same worthless idiots were made to work and use their earnings to fund the children they have, the birth control they're too lazy and entitled to take care of and the necessities of their lives, they would be too busy being responsible to be so useless and demanding.
They would certainly be less prone to embrace homicide as an alternative to the simple taking of a birth control pill.
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I don’t have a link but there is a leftist boycott on a hair salon in Des Moines because they had the gall to actually accept Ivanka Trump as a client when she was in Des Moines for a speech or something.
How do you deal with people like that? Bflynn? I’m all ears.
I dunno. They're assholes too, but this is America and they have the right to be assholes.
I like the Chick-fil-a way of dealing with liberal boycotts. Overwhelm the company with business. I'm not in Des Moines to participate, but I'm sure I would if I was local. Or at least I would encourage my female friends to do it.
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I stole this unashamedly from another website:
Let's review: What DIDN'T stop Maryland's school shooting: - Maryland's assault weapon ban - Maryland's 10-round magazine limit - Maryland's universal background check requirement - Maryland's law requiring an exhaustive application process to obtain a permit to purchase a handgun - Maryland's law prohibiting purchase of more than one firearm per month - Maryland's law requiring handgun registration - Maryland's law requiring licensing of handgun owners - Maryland's extremely limited approval of concealed carry permits - Maryland's refusal to honor any concealed carry permit from another state - Federal law prohibiting handgun possession for people under 21 - Laws against carrying without a permit - Gun free zone laws - Laws against discharging a firearm in public - Laws against attempted murder.
What DID stop Maryland's school shooting: - An armed person at the scene who engaged the shooter in less than a minute
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What DID stop Maryland's school shooting: - An armed person at the scene who engaged the shooter in less than a minute
And YAY DEATH!
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And YAY DEATH!
You're obviously reveling in your new roll as a forum troll.
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And YAY DEATH!
Why wouldn't we cheer the stopping of a murderer who could have murdered even more people if not shot, and killed? Is it better he live, and more innocent victims die?
Steingar is that you?
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And YAY DEATH!
you really are an asshole... aunt peggy.
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I stole this unashamedly from another website:
Let's review: What DIDN'T stop Maryland's school shooting: - Maryland's assault weapon ban - Maryland's 10-round magazine limit - Maryland's universal background check requirement - Maryland's law requiring an exhaustive application process to obtain a permit to purchase a handgun - Maryland's law prohibiting purchase of more than one firearm per month - Maryland's law requiring handgun registration - Maryland's law requiring licensing of handgun owners - Maryland's extremely limited approval of concealed carry permits - Maryland's refusal to honor any concealed carry permit from another state - Federal law prohibiting handgun possession for people under 21 - Laws against carrying without a permit - Gun free zone laws - Laws against discharging a firearm in public - Laws against attempted murder.
What DID stop Maryland's school shooting: - An armed person at the scene who engaged the shooter in less than a minute
I'm a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment and anyone should be able to own any weapon they want. That said, those Maryland laws were never meant to stop simple single-victim murder. That is because if the school resource officer had NOT been there, the count of dead would likely been unchanged - the killer was targeting an ex-girlfriend. Such killings follow a pattern - after shooting her he would have left the area or killed himself.
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I'm a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment and anyone should be able to own any weapon they want. That said, those Maryland laws were never meant to stop simple single-victim murder. That is because if the school resource officer had NOT been there, the count of dead would likely been unchanged - the killer was targeting an ex-girlfriend. Such killings follow a pattern - after shooting her he would have left the area or killed himself.
And you are sure of this? So using statistics the SRO should have stood down?
Should the SRO have yelled "Shooter! Are you here to murder just one or do you have multiple targets today?!" before he engaged him?
I'm really shaking my head at your reply on this. WTF?
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Why wouldn't we cheer the stopping of a murderer who could have murdered even more people if not shot, and killed? Is it better he live, and more innocent victims die?
Because someone died. That should never a reason for celebration. I thought we covered this already.
Republicans are trumpeting that the boy was killed. I'm glad the SRO was there, I'm glad he responded, I'm glad things were stopped. I would be much happier if he had missed the boy, then the child was shocked back to reality and dropped his gun.
If you cannot demand respect for everyone's lives, then nobody should respect yours either.
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Republicans are trumpeting that the boy was killed.
Post the links that show this please.
I'm glad the SRO was there, I'm glad he responded, I'm glad things were stopped. I would be much happier if he had missed the boy, then the child was shocked back to reality and dropped his gun.
So the SRO fires and misses. What if the shooter then turned and shot the SRO?
And I'm sorry, but your utopian drivel of missing the shooter and "shocking him into reality" and then he "drops his gun" is laughable. In a situation such as this, seconds count, it's killed or be killed.
Obviously you've never taken a self defense or a formal gun course.
If you cannot demand respect for everyone's lives, then nobody should respect yours either.
Once the shooter draws the weapon and discharges it, especially at another person, all bets are off. The SRO did what he was trained to do, which was the correct thing in this situation. This is not the time to attempt to negotiate.
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I would be much happier if he had missed the boy, then the child was shocked back to reality and dropped his gun.
If you cannot demand respect for everyone's lives, then nobody should respect yours either.
Are you Diane Feinstein, now?
What utter nonsense.
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What utter nonsense.
I still can't get past you guys calling life utter nonsense. Its like you don't care about it.
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I still can't get past you guys calling life utter nonsense. Its like you don't care about it.
So why did you serve in the US Military (Navy)? You were on a machine that had the capability of murdering others, and if I recall correctly you actually worked on the weapons. During an encounter with an adversary sub, and the order was given to load a torpedo tube ready to fire, did you run to the conn and advise the Capt to just "nick" the other sub so they would decide not to fire back, and of course save all those lives?
So can we assume correctly while you were in the Navy you were OK destroying the lives of others who intended to do you harm?
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Because someone died. That should never a reason for celebration. I thought we covered this already.
Republicans are trumpeting that the boy was killed. I'm glad the SRO was there, I'm glad he responded, I'm glad things were stopped. I would be much happier if he had missed the boy, then the child was shocked back to reality and dropped his gun.
If you cannot demand respect for everyone's lives, then nobody should respect yours either.
When someone picks up a weapon, including their fists, and kills, or attempts to kill other innocent people, they are a threat to society, and need to be STOPPED, up to, and including death. If he had "missed the boy", the boy would still be a very real threat to other's lives. Why can't you understand that? STOP THE THREAT. The "boy" gave up his rights, including his right to life when he willfully killed others.
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I still can't get past you guys calling life utter nonsense. Its like you don't care about it.
When did you become such a brainless, pussy?
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So can we assume correctly while you were in the Navy you were OK destroying the lives of others who intended to do you harm?
Absolutely. I worked on a submarine and part of my job was launching nuclear weapons. If we had been in a nuclear war, I would have done my job.
But we are not talking about nuclear weapons and warfare. We are questioning whether or not the state has the right to deprive a citizen of their inalienable right to life. Republicans are saying "absolutely yes" AND they are celebrating it.
I do agree that we want a dangerous person stopped. When that happens without death occurring, I'm happier. Killing, even an active shooter, is never to be cheered, it is a violation of the social contract to protect inalienable rights. It is just another part of the tragedy. End of statement.
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Absolutely. I worked on a submarine and part of my job was launching nuclear weapons. If we had been in a nuclear war, I would have done my job.
But we are not talking about nuclear weapons and warfare. We are questioning whether or not the state has the right to deprive a citizen of their inalienable right to life. Republicans are saying "absolutely yes" AND they are celebrating it.
I do agree that we want a dangerous person stopped. When that happens without death occurring, I'm happier. Killing, even an active shooter, is never to be cheered, it is a violation of the social contract to protect inalienable rights. It is just another part of the tragedy. End of statement.
That reply is absolutely bizarre.
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I'm a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment and anyone should be able to own any weapon they want. That said, those Maryland laws were never meant to stop simple single-victim murder. That is because if the school resource officer had NOT been there, the count of dead would likely been unchanged - the killer was targeting an ex-girlfriend. Such killings follow a pattern - after shooting her he would have left the area or killed himself.
I see. I guess then the good guy with a gun only managed to stop ONE murder. Prolly not worth the effort. meh
Speculation is a great thing. something we can all engage in anytime, any where.
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I see. I guess then the good guy with a gun only managed to stop ONE murder. Prolly not worth the effort. meh
Speculation is a great thing. something we can all engage in anytime, any where.
Little speculation required. The Maryland school shooter had only a single 9mm Glock pistol stolen from his dad. No additional rounds found on him for reload. That is not SOP for the typical crazy intent on a murder spree. They generally have multiple weapons and spare ammo.
Of course no where do I say I don’t think he should not have been gunned down. The cop/resource officer did the right thing - and risked his life doing so. If the kid had been a crazy and armed as such, the officer would have had a higher probability of losing the shootout.
(Just because I don’t agree that a particular case supports a particular theory doesn’t mean I disagree with the theory.)
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I still can't get past you guys calling life utter nonsense. Its like you don't care about it.
I don't care about scum lives. I do care about improving the world by getting rid of scum, just like I improve my swimming pool.
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I don't care about scum lives. I do care about improving the world by getting rid of scum, just like I improve my swimming pool.
So if someone else thinks of you as conservative, right wing scum (say the Democrats operating the showers), then you're on board with them killing you?
That's not an absurd statement. Democrats are trying to work themselves up to that. They're a ways off yet, but there are Democrats who are already thinking about the best ways to dispose of conservatives.
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I would be much happier if he had missed the boy, then the child was shocked back to reality and dropped his gun.
I would have preferred that as soon as the punk fired his first shot, the SRO fired his weapon at the punks bullet and rendered it harmless, then shot the punk between the eyes. But we both live in the real world and we know neither your nor my 'druthers are realistic.
Flynn, I understand your point of view, most of the time. I disagree with it, and I have loved ones that do agree with you, but I don't. And that's ok.
However, the statement highlighted above is just absurd.
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That reply is absolutely bizarre.
Did it not answer your question? I was in the military 25 years ago. If I had to do the same job today, I'm not sure I could.
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I would have preferred that as soon as the punk fired his first shot, the SRO fired his weapon at the punks bullet and rendered it harmless, then shot the punk between the eyes. But we both live in the real world and we know neither your nor my 'druthers are realistic.
Just had to be done! heheheee
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/05/04/bullets-collided-mid-air/
However - completely unrealistic - as you point out.
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So if someone else thinks of you as conservative, right wing scum (say the Democrats operating the showers), then you're on board with them killing you?
That's not an absurd statement. Democrats are trying to work themselves up to that. They're a ways off yet, but there are Democrats who are already thinking about the best ways to dispose of conservatives.
You are right; that's not an absurd statement. I think Democrats are fully capable of doing such a thing. Their hypocrisy shows no bounds.
There was a picture in this mornings paper of a liberal protester holding up a sign that said "LOVE NOT HATE MAKES AMERICA GREAT". It was a demonstration of people that admittedly hate Trump. So it's ok for them to hate . . .
But the fact that democrats are crazy doesn't mean we should tolerate crazy out of fear. If they kill me because they think I am scum, I hope they are convicted and executed. Better yet, I hope someone in the vicinity shoots and kills them and saves society the cost of a trial, incarceration and execution.
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Did it not answer your question? I was in the military 25 years ago. If I had to do the same job today, I'm not sure I could.
And yet you have no problem stigmatizing Trump for something he did or said decades ago. You may even be one of the ones that blasted him for avoiding the draft during Vietnam when the US was participating in a ridiculous war, but you say that you may not have done the job you did 25 years ago, even though your purpose at the time was a noble one, not a politically driven clusterfuck. Sounds to me like Trump was more principle driven then than you were.
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So if someone else thinks of you as conservative, right wing scum (say the Democrats operating the showers), then you're on board with them killing you?
That's not an absurd statement. Democrats are trying to work themselves up to that. They're a ways off yet, but there are Democrats who are already thinking about the best ways to dispose of conservatives.
Not to break into your self-serving, bullshit, crying heart, oh, I'm such a good-virtue-signalling-useless-progressive, rant - but - The young girl that the dead punk shot DIED THIS MORNING.
So fuck you and your bleeding heart bullshit.
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Not to break into your self-serving, bullshit, crying heart, oh, I'm such a good-virtue-signalling-useless-progressive, rant - but - The young girl that the dead punk shot DIED THIS MORNING.
So fuck you and your bleeding heat bullshit.
And her live is important to Flynn too. Just not as important as the scum that shot her.
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And her live is important to Flynn too. Just not as important as the scum that shot her.
I don't get impression from the make believe wonder woman.
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Did it not answer your question?
Just a bizarre contradicting babble.