PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Steingar on April 04, 2017, 07:17:01 AM
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From the BBC:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170403-miamis-fight-against-sea-level-rise (http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170403-miamis-fight-against-sea-level-rise)
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So man's industrialization is causing this, right? Please turn in your airplane, house, car, I phone, computer, anything made in factories, or by man. Cave dwelling, and animal use, or growing crops is also forbidden except for:
Native Americans
Women
Minorities
Muslims
Illegal aliens
Refugees
Self Righteous Liberal/Progressives
Al Gore
That is all. Carry on.
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The climate is changing. The seas are rising. What can we do about it, that will actually have a beneficial effect. We could raise taxes on the people that produce wealth. Yeah, that will help.
Here is another idea. We need to reduce the population. That may not have any influence on climate change, but it will reduce the number of people affected.
We should stop having babies. And I don't just mean rich countries. Everyone needs to stop pro-creating for a while.
Instead of "carbon credits" lets have "baby credits". If you want a baby, you have to pay two other people not to have a baby. And of course, we need to cease subsidizing people that do have babies with welfare, food stamps and WIC. All those programs contribute to high taxes, overpopulation, crime and more poverty.
Reducing the population will logarithmically reduce man's impact on the environment.
Other ideas are to legalize and subsidize abortion, step up the use of the death penalty and outlaw antibiotics. In a few years, we will all be healthier, more productive, more efficient and more law abiding. And if we would close most of our hospitals, that would speed up the population reduction.
And let's get rid of the UN. Let countries settle their differences on the battlefield. That has been an effective method of population control throughout history.
I know. My ideas are terrible. But they are better and have more potential for success than any other proposals on the table.
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Good stuff LJ. I agree. There are far too many people. Let's start with obliterating Ohio first. ;D
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The best solution is for everyone who believes this is man made to disconnect from the grid, sell your cars and any other energy using devices and live like cavemen. Problem solved.
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I'm sorry, I don't understand the point of the article. If it is intended as a cautionary tale about consequences of global warming, it contains too many qualifiers to make the grade. Rising sea levels due to the onset of the current interglacial have been observed for more than a century, as indicated in the article below (and the figure contained in it). In fact sea level measurements made in northern Europe (such as the Stockholm measurements - among the longest duration known) show what appears to be a dropping sea level - but that is because the land in northern Europe is still rebounding upward after the last glacial retreat. The geology has definitely not reached equilibrium and possibly neither has the climate.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-tech/reading-between-tides-200-years-measuring-global-sea-level (https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-tech/reading-between-tides-200-years-measuring-global-sea-level)
(https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/styles/inline_all/public/WG1AR5_SPM_sealevel.gif?itok=9rWNYGCd)
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_global_station.htm?stnid=050-141 (https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_global_station.htm?stnid=050-141)
Of course a place like Tuvala, in the Pacific, which is feared may be drowned by rising seas, doesn't seem to show much change yet - tides and weather variations dominating the measurement variations (from http://www1.american.edu/ted/ice/tuvalu.htm (http://www1.american.edu/ted/ice/tuvalu.htm)):
(http://www1.american.edu/ted/ice/images4/210jj_MonthlysealevelriseTuvalu.gif)
It turns out that when there is glacial rebound (rising land,) somewhere else has to subside (or the density of the crust has to change, which it doesn't seem to) and Florida may be in an area of modest subsidence:
(http://www.data.jma.go.jp/kaiyou/data/shindan/a_1/sl_trend/sl_ref/GIA_Peltier_2004.png)
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I think the article was about alarmism, not facts. Basements are flooding. Really? How many basements are there in Florida? Not many.
Anyway, it will be good to see new affordable oceanfront property coming on the market soon!
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I think the article was about alarmism, not facts. Basements are flooding. Really? How many basements are there in Florida? Not many.
Generally, basements in Florida are otherwise called "indoor swimming pools"; for a reason.
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Sea levels rising is a religious doctrine of the climate scientists. In fact, Miami has seen King Tide flooding for centuries.
According to empirical methods, a single disproof cause invalidation. So, I will just leave this here.
http://climatechangedispatch.com/the-sea-level-scam/
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All I know is that we need to add another government agency, and many, many people JUST for Global Climate Change. They will be there to manage, and enforce cap, and trade, carbon credits, and the "fees" for energy usage in which they deem "risky" to the climate.
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All I know is that we need to add another government agency, and many, many people JUST for Global Climate Change. They will be there to manage, and enforce cap, and trade, carbon credits, and the "fees" for energy usage in which they deem "risky" to the climate.
While themselves consuming way more than the average person in natural resources and telling us all how bad we are for having the nerve to consume what we do.
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While themselves consuming way more than the average person in natural resources and telling us all how bad we are for having the nerve to consume what we do.
Exactly. It is OK for them to use fossil fuels (huge homes, multiple homes, bizjets, etc) as it is for "the right cause", and the ends justify the means. Meanwhile, they want the populace to have a lesser standard of living, and thus lesser quality of life to "preserve the planet". Well which is it? If things are so bad, shouldn't everyone live in a grass hut, and eat Soylent Green?