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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on August 16, 2022, 07:57:34 PM
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Adios BITCH!
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Ding Dong the witch is dead...
Oh, and...
she think she is Abraham Lincoln.
Isn't that like cory bush pretending he was Spartacus?
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I'm melting....melting...melting.....!!!!!
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I’m thinking about opening a conversion with my liberal Dem brother about politics which we have not discussed since 2016 when we had a blowup over Trump winning. He is ten years younger than I am but still old enough to have become a liberal Democrat back when the Democrat party was still for free speech and pro social freedoms such as being against vaccine mandates, as well as anti-warmongering. My brother hated the Bushes and Dick Cheney.
I want to ask him now why the Dems love Liz (we know the answer: she hates Trump) and whether my brother has followed the Dems into woke wacko land. He has a 15 year old son. A white male, presumably straight.
So the kid has everything going against him. He’s in public school probably being taught that all the world’s evil is his fault for being male and white. That he is going to college is a foregone conclusion. If he gets a worthless liberal arts degree he will be doomed. So I wrote him a letter on the subject of career choice and encouraged him toward a STEM field but that’s beside the point.
The point is, could my brother, a liberal from the 20th century, be questioning whether the left has gone too far? Maybe worried what the schools are teaching his son? Maybe worried about what jobs his son will be able to get? Between 2016 and today the Dems have lurched into full on authoritarianism and are currently destroying the economy. I’m curious if my brother went with them all the way or might be having second thoughts.
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Even with Democrat crossover, Liz couldn't get 30% of the vote. Problem is she'll not get the message.
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Even with Democrat crossover, Liz couldn't get 30% of the vote. Problem is she'll not get the message.
It looks to me like liz wanted to lose to solidify her liberal credentials so she can switch parties and play at being a martyred heroine.
Florida had a republican RINO state senator that termed out at the legislature and then the senate.
The minute she was termed out she switched parties and became a fire-breathing left-wing liberal.
When she attempted her 'comeback' tour, the voters on neither side of the aisle were impressed.
Now she is a nearly silent voice of opposition to anything and everything republican on facebook, because nowhere else can she
find an audience.
I suspect lizzy will sink to that kind of level before very long, even after she turns up on cnn.
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She’s already announced she will consider running for president in 2024 which is laughable. Neither party would vote her in.
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She’s already announced she will consider running for president in 2024 which is laughable. Neither party would vote her in.
Benadict Arnold is not a hero to the English. Neither side likes traitors.
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I’m thinking about opening a conversion with my liberal Dem brother about politics which we have not discussed since 2016 when we had a blowup over Trump winning. He is ten years younger than I am but still old enough to have become a liberal Democrat back when the Democrat party was still for free speech and pro social freedoms such as being against vaccine mandates, as well as anti-warmongering. My brother hated the Bushes and Dick Cheney.
I want to ask him now why the Dems love Liz (we know the answer: she hates Trump) and whether my brother has followed the Dems into woke wacko land. He has a 15 year old son. A white male, presumably straight.
So the kid has everything going against him. He’s in public school probably being taught that all the world’s evil is his fault for being male and white. That he is going to college is a foregone conclusion. If he gets a worthless liberal arts degree he will be doomed. So I wrote him a letter on the subject of career choice and encouraged him toward a STEM field but that’s beside the point.
The point is, could my brother, a liberal from the 20th century, be questioning whether the left has gone too far? Maybe worried what the schools are teaching his son? Maybe worried about what jobs his son will be able to get? Between 2016 and today the Dems have lurched into full on authoritarianism and are currently destroying the economy. I’m curious if my brother went with them all the way or might be having second thoughts.
At the very core of Democrats (far left, fasco-communist control freaks) is HYPOCRISY and DISHONESTY. Don't waste your time.
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Yep
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Yep
She'd fit right in on the View and CNN. Ugly, fat, angry, stupid, dishonest, emotional, old, slovenly dressed, disgusting HARPY.
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At the very core of Democrats (far left, fasco-communist control freaks) is HYPOCRISY and DISHONESTY. Don't waste your time.
But that’s my question, has he become a far left fiasco-communist control freak? Or just stayed a liberal from the 70s who supports legalizing pot, and opposed wars in the Mideast, who just has TDS because he listens to CNN? He was an active duty Marine and supports the 2nd Amendment and has a work ethic. He doesn’t have a man bun nor drinks soy latte. His wife is a lost cause though, but she’s female so I wouldn’t even try to reason with her. You might be right about not wasting my time. I’m not sure he doesn’t just get told what to believe by the wife.
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At the very core of Democrats (far left, fasco-communist control freaks) is HYPOCRISY and DISHONESTY. Don't waste your time.
Democrats LOOOOOOOOVED John McCain, right up to the point of him winning the primary. Then they viscously savaged him and Sarah Palin.
Republicans who consider themselves moderates are as stupid as Charlie Brown kicking the football when Lucy was the holder. They will never learn.
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But that’s my question, has he become a far left fiasco-communist control freak? Or just stayed a liberal from the 70s who supports legalizing pot, and opposed wars in the Mideast, who just has TDS because he listens to CNN? He was an active duty Marine and supports the 2nd Amendment and has a work ethic. He doesn’t have a man bun nor drinks soy latte. His wife is a lost cause though, but she’s female so I wouldn’t even try to reason with her. You might be right about not wasting my time. I’m not sure he doesn’t just get told what to believe by the wife.
Even Marines become slaves to their wives sometimes. I am amazed at how so many Men kowtow to their wives and live in absolute fear of them. I don't know from where this emanates. It is a Mom thing where they grew up used to having to listen to and fear their Mother??? I had a strong willed, well educated, but emotional and insecure Mother who made ALL THE RULES in the house and my Dad lived in absolute fear of her. I rejected all that, hence part of my problem with relationships with women. I just won't do that.
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Even Marines become slaves to their wives sometimes. I am amazed at how so many Men kowtow to their wives and live in absolute fear of them. I don't know from where this emanates. It is a Mom thing where they grew up used to having to listen to and fear their Mother??? I had a strong willed, well educated, but emotional and insecure Mother who made ALL THE RULES in the house and my Dad lived in absolute fear of her. I rejected all that, hence part of my problem with relationships with women. I just won't do that.
It’s the sex. I’m not male so I’m just guessing, but I postulate it’s fear of being cut off from the sex. In my brother’s defense, his wife is gorgeous and sexy and has not gotten fat, even after 17 years of marriage, plus she is extremely sweet and nice and dotes on him, is a great mother and even has a good job and brings in money. Also a great cook. I don’t think it’s that she is overbearing at all, I think it’s more like my brother happily goes along with whatever she wants because he can’t believe he landed such a woman. However if he disagreed with her she might give him the cold shoulder, hence keeping access to the sex is a priority over politics.
Well if my brother were not a liberal to start with that might not be the case. I doubt any man here who is conservative or libertarian would go far left just for a woman, so my brother is at least on that side of the fence to start with. I just want to know if he has fallen all the way into lunacy with the radical far left we have seen grow just in the last couple of years. If he (and maybe even his wife) have any sanity at all one would hope they’re questioning it a little.
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Yeah, it's the sex. Always the sex. AOC is kind of hot, but not hot enough to be anywhere near.
I suggest that you just talk to him. Not about politics, but about everyday things. Find common interests, common ground for talking about cool stuff like guns and planes. You'll see pretty soon where the boundaries are around topics that you disagree about and topics that you agree with. And how willing he is to discuss facts vs. emotion. But do this out of earshot of his wife. She will put a wet blanket on any discussions that are not 100% left. Being your brother is a feature and you already have common family ground.
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Even Marines become slaves to their wives sometimes. I am amazed at how so many Men kowtow to their wives and live in absolute fear of them. I don't know from where this emanates. It is a Mom thing where they grew up used to having to listen to and fear their Mother??? I had a strong willed, well educated, but emotional and insecure Mother who made ALL THE RULES in the house and my Dad lived in absolute fear of her. I rejected all that, hence part of my problem with relationships with women. I just won't do that.
Hey, I thought alpha males (Marines) worshipped their women (who are often alpha females). Please don’t disillusion me. Appreciation of the opposite gender’s differences is wonderfully healthy but currently under attack by the left.
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It’s the sex. I’m not male so I’m just guessing, but I postulate it’s fear of being cut off from the sex. In my brother’s defense, his wife is gorgeous and sexy and has not gotten fat, even after 17 years of marriage, plus she is extremely sweet and nice and dotes on him, is a great mother and even has a good job and brings in money. Also a great cook. I don’t think it’s that she is overbearing at all, I think it’s more like my brother happily goes along with whatever she wants because he can’t believe he landed such a woman. However if he disagreed with her she might give him the cold shoulder, hence keeping access to the sex is a priority over politics.
Well if my brother were not a liberal to start with that might not be the case. I doubt any man here who is conservative or libertarian would go far left just for a woman, so my brother is at least on that side of the fence to start with. I just want to know if he has fallen all the way into lunacy with the radical far left we have seen grow just in the last couple of years. If he (and maybe even his wife) have any sanity at all one would hope they’re questioning it a little.
“Extremely sweet,” eh? In my experience far-left women play a good game in sweetness with a steel plate inside it. I’ve seen it over and over, and in most instances a man who crosses her belief system even slightly is either jettisoned or given the mark of the beast and placed outside her sphere. All done with a smile.
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Yeah, it's the sex. Always the sex. AOC is kind of hot, but not hot enough to be anywhere near.
I suggest that you just talk to him. Not about politics, but about everyday things. Find common interests, common ground for talking about cool stuff like guns and planes. You'll see pretty soon where the boundaries are around topics that you disagree about and topics that you agree with. And how willing he is to discuss facts vs. emotion. But do this out of earshot of his wife. She will put a wet blanket on any discussions that are not 100% left. Being your brother is a feature and you already have common family ground.
You hit on two exact points. Discussing facts without emotion. It can’t get emotional or it all goes south fast. My thought was to discuss the changes occurring in both parties and both sides from an objective perspective. Step outside personal positions and talk about the changes, for example, how the liberals used to be anti vax and now they are pro vax without talking about the Covid vax in particular and whether I think it is a scam or should be taken.
How the Republican Party is splitting in two (MAGA and RINO) and the Democrat party is also splitting in two (far left woke and traditional moderate Democrat) and how the Republican it’s more a 50/50 split or better toward MAGA but the Democrat, the far woke left is a much smaller percent. Maybe we can’t have that discussion without self identifying. I’d have to say I’m in the MAGA half if I’m Republican at all, and my question for my brother is whether he is in the radical wacko AOC squad part of the Dems or does he still identify more with the traditional Dems. I don’t know if we can go that far without veering into emotional ranting.
Your second point is yes, it has to be without the wife, although we never see each other in person anymore, it would probably be via email exchange which I’m sure he’d share with her.
We do talk by phone about our physical health problems, we very much share that in common. Both have long standing back pain and concurrent neurological deficits.
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“Extremely sweet,” eh? In my experience far-left women play a good game in sweetness with a steel plate inside it. I’ve seen it over and over, and in most instances a man who crosses her belief system even slightly is either jettisoned or given the mark of the beast and placed outside her sphere. All done with a smile.
Possibly. I have no idea what goes on behind closed doors of course.
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Hey, I thought alpha males (Marines) worshipped their women (who are often alpha females). Please don’t disillusion me. Appreciation of the opposite gender’s differences is wonderfully healthy but currently under attack by the left.
Mutual worship, that’s the ticket!
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It’s the sex. I’m not male so I’m just guessing, but I postulate it’s fear of being cut off from the sex. In my brother’s defense, his wife is gorgeous and sexy and has not gotten fat, even after 17 years of marriage, plus she is extremely sweet and nice and dotes on him, is a great mother and even has a good job and brings in money. Also a great cook. I don’t think it’s that she is overbearing at all, I think it’s more like my brother happily goes along with whatever she wants because he can’t believe he landed such a woman. However if he disagreed with her she might give him the cold shoulder, hence keeping access to the sex is a priority over politics.
Well if my brother were not a liberal to start with that might not be the case. I doubt any man here who is conservative or libertarian would go far left just for a woman, so my brother is at least on that side of the fence to start with. I just want to know if he has fallen all the way into lunacy with the radical far left we have seen grow just in the last couple of years. If he (and maybe even his wife) have any sanity at all one would hope they’re questioning it a little.
OK. I'll agree that's the case sometimes but many of these women are dumpy and/or old, fat, etc. How do you explain that? Men afraid of being alone or going through a financially devastating divorce? (I've done both and survived, btw, and actually came out the happiest I've ever been).
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Mutual worship, that’s the ticket!
Are we not allowed to call it 69 anymore?
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OK. I'll agree that's the case sometimes but many of these women are dumpy and/or old, fat, etc. How do you explain that? Men afraid of being alone or going through a financially devastating divorce? (I've done both and survived, btw, and actually came out the happiest I've ever been).
You’re right, half or more women get too fat but so do men, sexual attraction goes away in both directions. Probably fear of financial ruin then, especially if you have children. Did you have any children? If not that’s why you came out ahead. If a man finds himself with a wife who no longer treats him nice and children to support, it must feel like a suffocating trap. Keeping the peace then becomes the overriding priority. Until you can’t stand it anymore and the high price of leaving becomes worth it, or she kicks you out.
I heard a statistic, don’t know if it’s true. 50% of marriages end in divorce and of those that don’t, 80% are “not happy”. Staying together for economic reasons or whatever. Good lord, that means only 10% of people who get married end up in a happy marriage.
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You hit on two exact points. Discussing facts without emotion. It can’t get emotional or it all goes south fast. My thought was to discuss the changes occurring in both parties and both sides from an objective perspective. Step outside personal positions and talk about the changes, for example, how the liberals used to be anti vax and now they are pro vax without talking about the Covid vax in particular and whether I think it is a scam or should be taken.
How the Republican Party is splitting in two (MAGA and RINO) and the Democrat party is also splitting in two (far left woke and traditional moderate Democrat) and how the Republican it’s more a 50/50 split or better toward MAGA but the Democrat, the far woke left is a much smaller percent. Maybe we can’t have that discussion without self identifying. I’d have to say I’m in the MAGA half if I’m Republican at all, and my question for my brother is whether he is in the radical wacko AOC squad part of the Dems or does he still identify more with the traditional Dems. I don’t know if we can go that far without veering into emotional ranting.
Your second point is yes, it has to be without the wife, although we never see each other in person anymore, it would probably be via email exchange which I’m sure he’d share with her.
We do talk by phone about our physical health problems, we very much share that in common. Both have long standing back pain and concurrent neurological deficits.
About the two splits in each party, I somewhat disagree with your take on it.
In the case of the GOP, the RINO wing has never warmed up to or adopted MAGA. MAGA is winning simply due to blunt force trauma against RINOs from the grass roots of MAGA. The split is clear, and it’s really the grass roots vs the establishment. No RINO has tried to engraving itself into MAGA.
In the case of the Dems, I’ve been STUNNED with the rapid, WILD swings to the far left minority of the party. If Biden ran 10 years ago, he would probably be the idiot centrist he claims he is, but which he isn’t any more. 100% of the MAJORITY of establishment democrats have gone from border integrity to unlimited illegal immigration, from being loath to the military to demanding we intervene in Ukraine, from non-intervention to being globalists, and ALL have adopted the most radical green, socialist and Marxist policies advanced by Bernie and AOC. And I do not see grass-roots democrats moderating whatsoever. I think the ingrained thirst for power by democrats has made even the most
Moderate democrat a rabid far-left voter just to remain in power.
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I agree with Stan. There are virtually NO moderate Democrats anymore. They are 99% radical, far left, Fasco-Communists. All hate American values and those that still support them.
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About the two splits in each party, I somewhat disagree with your take on it.
In the case of the GOP, the RINO wing has never warmed up to or adopted MAGA. MAGA is winning simply due to blunt force trauma against RINOs from the grass roots of MAGA. The split is clear, and it’s really the grass roots vs the establishment. No RINO has tried to engraving itself into MAGA.
In the case of the Dems, I’ve been STUNNED with the rapid, WILD swings to the far left minority of the party. If Biden ran 10 years ago, he would probably be the idiot centrist he claims he is, but which he isn’t any more. 100% of the MAJORITY of establishment democrats have gone from border integrity to unlimited illegal immigration, from being loath to the military to demanding we intervene in Ukraine, from non-intervention to being globalists, and ALL have adopted the most radical green, socialist and Marxist policies advanced by Bernie and AOC. And I do not see grass-roots democrats moderating whatsoever. I think the ingrained thirst for power by democrats has made even the most
Moderate democrat a rabid far-left voter just to remain in power.
Not sure I understand what you’re saying about RINOs and MAGA. Of course the RINOs aren’t engraving themselves to MAGA. Did you think I was throwing them in together? I meant RINO vs MAGA, not RINO and MAGA.
For the Dems, I’m talking about the people, not the politicians. There is a lot of evidence that the far woke are not the majority of Democrats (common people) by a long shot. They aren’t going along with third trimester abortions, gender reassignment of little kids, and CRT in schools. But they are still voting Democrat out of habit and out of TDS, but there are signs that is beginning to change.
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I’m growing more convinced, sadly, that emotion and stupidity govern most people.
https://gab.com/DavidVance/posts/108842730855972681
Also, a great quote from Thomas Sowell:
People who pride themselves on their "complexity" and deride others for being "simplistic" should realize that the truth is often not very complicated. What gets complex is evading the truth.
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I’m growing more convinced, sadly, that emotion and stupidity govern most people.
https://gab.com/DavidVance/posts/108842730855972681
Also, a great quote from Thomas Sowell:
People who pride themselves on their "complexity" and deride others for being "simplistic" should realize that the truth is often not very complicated. What gets complex is evading the truth.
^^^Love that quote from Thomas Sowell.
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I agree with Stan. There are virtually NO moderate Democrats anymore. They are 99% radical, far left, Fasco-Communists. All hate American values and those that still support them.
I'm not so sure. Or maybe it's my yearning for some hope for this country. I think that there are moderate democrats out there in government. Unfortunately, their party has been so overwhelmed and corrupted by the far far far left that they are unable or unwilling to say anything. Saying anything contrary to the far^3 left and you're considered a nazi. Even if you're only far^2 left. The far^3 left has undue power, and their message is amplified by the media. Perhaps not because the media agrees with it, but maybe because it's so outrageous that it attracts clicks. Like "look at this pile of shit" and people will click to see it even though they know it's a pile of shit.
I have no evidence to support this. But I'm hopeful that one day all those far^3 leftists will be seen for what they are and will simply go away.
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That which isn’t sustainable will not be sustained. Unfortunately a lot of damage can be done in the process.
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I'm not so sure. Or maybe it's my yearning for some hope for this country. I think that there are moderate democrats out there in government. Unfortunately, their party has been so overwhelmed and corrupted by the far far far left that they are unable or unwilling to say anything. Saying anything contrary to the far^3 left and you're considered a nazi. Even if you're only far^2 left. The far^3 left has undue power, and their message is amplified by the media. Perhaps not because the media agrees with it, but maybe because it's so outrageous that it attracts clicks. Like "look at this pile of shit" and people will click to see it even though they know it's a pile of shit.
I have no evidence to support this. But I'm hopeful that one day all those far^3 leftists will be seen for what they are and will simply go away.
Right. There’s a silent majority of moderate Democrats or at least I hope there is. You bring up a great point, the ones in government take a lot of risk to speak out against the far woke.
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I agree with Stan. There are virtually NO moderate Democrats anymore. They are 99% radical, far left, Fasco-Communists. All hate American values and those that still support them.
There are plenty of moderate democrats... only thing is: none of them are running for office.
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Right. There’s a silent majority of moderate Democrats or at least I hope there is. You bring up a great point, the ones in government take a lot of risk to speak out against the far woke.
This! There are many, probably the majority, that are moderate. But they go where the wind blows and so they go along. Not gonna risk their gravy train (aka as kickbacks, stock tips, etc). Plenty on the Republican side as well.
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There are plenty of moderate democrats... only thing is: none of them are running for office.
I think the vast majority support the Woke bullshit, Climate Change, Open Borders, etc. To me that's Far Left.
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I'm not so sure. Or maybe it's my yearning for some hope for this country. I think that there are moderate democrats out there in government. Unfortunately, their party has been so overwhelmed and corrupted by the far far far left that they are unable or unwilling to say anything. Saying anything contrary to the far^3 left and you're considered a nazi. Even if you're only far^2 left. The far^3 left has undue power, and their message is amplified by the media. Perhaps not because the media agrees with it, but maybe because it's so outrageous that it attracts clicks. Like "look at this pile of shit" and people will click to see it even though they know it's a pile of shit.
I have no evidence to support this. But I'm hopeful that one day all those far^3 leftists will be seen for what they are and will simply go away.
If I had the inclination I can run hours of tape in which Biden, Schumer, even Obama and other long time Dems claiming that illegal immigration is a problem, our borders need to be secured, marriage is between one man and one woman, abortion should be “safe, legal and rare,” and other statements which are 180 degrees different than their individual and collective party line today.
I see no moderate democrats in government trying to move the narrative to the center, and even more disturbingly, no moderate democrat voters willing to push their party to the center.
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This! There are many, probably the majority, that are moderate. But they go where the wind blows and so they go along. Not gonna risk their gravy train (aka as kickbacks, stock tips, etc). Plenty on the Republican side as well.
I see evidence supporting this by looking at the results in primaries over the past few weeks. Where the GOP has votes split between a number of candidates, somehow the democrat voters fall in lockstep with the prevailing favorites of the party.
Look at the Texas primary votes:
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That’s staggering. O’Rourke is a slack-jawed, mouth-breathing, developmentally-challenged, corrupt poseur and complete dumpster fire. Much like the current occupant of the Oval Office.
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by Newt Gingrich
As Congresswoman Liz Cheney was being decisively repudiated by the voters of Wyoming (66 percent to 29 percent is a repudiation), her smug Eastern establishment certainty of moral virtue remained intact.
However, in describing her situation with the words of Abraham Lincoln, she skewed the historic record. If Lincoln had only garnered 29 percent support in his 1858 U.S. Senate race against Stephen Douglas, he would never have been president.
In fact, Lincoln won the popular vote against incumbent Douglas. However, Democrats had more seats in the state legislature (which selected Senators in those days) so they sent Douglas back to Washington. Lincoln then had the Lincoln-Douglas debates published as a book and worked methodically to win the GOP nomination for president in 1860.
Cheney is also profoundly mistaken in her claim that Lincoln ignored public opinion to follow some internal conviction against the popular will.
Lincoln was deeply careful about doing what the public wanted. He was possibly the most thoughtful of all American presidents in this regard. Lincoln warned: “In this age, in this country, public sentiment is everything. With it, nothing can fail; against it, nothing can succeed. Whoever molds public sentiment goes deeper than he who enacts statutes, or pronounces judicial decisions.”
Anyone who studies Lincoln’s presidency knows he listened carefully to the American people (at least those in the North who favored maintaining the Union and ultimately supported abolishing slavery).
In an age before polling, President Lincoln routinely held open receptions at the White House.
As Tyler Putnam wrote:
‘”I call these receptions my public-opinion baths,’ answered Lincoln, ‘for I have but little time to read the papers and gather public opinion that way; and, though they may not be pleasant in all their particulars, the effect as a whole is renovating and invigorating to my perceptions of responsibility and duty.’”
Lincoln believed such encounters kept him in touch with “the great popular assemblage out of which I sprang, and to which at the end of two years I must return.”
When Lincoln called for government of the people, by the people, and for the people, he meant everyday folks – not just Ivy League elites.
The government of the people in Wyoming means representing a deeply pro-Donald Trump position. After all, President Trump got 69.94 percent of the vote in Wyoming in 2020.
When Cheney decided her mission in life was destroying President Trump, she was in effect repudiating the people of Wyoming – the people she was supposed to be representing. She had joined the government for the elite – the government for the establishment system – and rejected Lincoln’s formula of government by and for the people.
This was perhaps made most clear in her arrogant closing statement of the Jan. 6 Committee:
“In our country, we don’t swear an oath to an individual, or a political party. We take our oath to defend the United States Constitution. And that oath must mean something. Tonight, I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible: There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain.”
In her concession speech, Cheney continued her anti-Trump fervor which had marked the Jan. 6 Committee as a show trial. Essentially, she was vice chair of a fake committee colluding with the fake news media to produce fake information.
Atty. Gen. Merrick Garland would be well served to consider the Wyoming repudiation of the Jan. 6 Committee’s vice chair – and the number of successful candidates who were supported by President Trump this primary cycle.
It is likely that only two of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach President Trump will survive. An 80 percent defeat rate is historic and unlike anything we have seen in American history. (At the peak of his popularity in 1938, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt failed almost totally in his effort to purge conservatives from his party).
Garland’s Justice Department – having lied to federal judges, harassed Trump supporters, and now sent 30 FBI agents into the former President’s private home – is clearly trying to find grounds to indict President Trump and try him in Washington D.C. (where he got only 5.6 percent of the vote).
President Lincoln’s warning for Garland is simple. Government of the people, by the people, and for the people cannot be repudiated by rigged investigations, hand-picked judges, or stacked juries.
Every step by a tainted FBI and Justice Department against President Trump simply makes it more likely that he will be the Republican nominee. Every effort to block him with legality when he cannot be defeated in the public arena will be a disaster for the country and an assault on Lincoln’s vision of government by the people.
Big Government Socialists may be able to beat President Trump in a general election. That would be legitimate and ultimately accepted by the American people if they thought it was an honest campaign and an honest count.
Trying to block President Trump from competing will enrage at least half the country and increase contempt for the entire bureaucracy – and the larger Washington establishment that thinks it can govern over the people rather than with the people’s consent.
As Lincoln warned “public sentiment is everything.” It is that public sentiment which repudiated Cheney in Wyoming. It is that public sentiment which will repudiate any effort to legally rig the game so Trump can’t run.
Garland is in real risk of becoming the attorney general who broke the public’s belief in an impartial American justice system. That would be a disaster on an historic scale.
Let’s stick with Lincoln and cheerfully repudiate Cheney and Garland.
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In other words...
lizzy cheney is a fucking lying twat, rewriting history to suit her ego.
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by Newt Gingrich
As Congresswoman Liz Cheney was being decisively repudiated by the voters of Wyoming (66 percent to 29 percent is a repudiation), her smug Eastern establishment certainty of moral virtue remained intact.
However, in describing her situation with the words of Abraham Lincoln, she skewed the historic record. If Lincoln had only garnered 29 percent support in his 1858 U.S. Senate race against Stephen Douglas, he would never have been president.
In fact, Lincoln won the popular vote against incumbent Douglas. However, Democrats had more seats in the state legislature (which selected Senators in those days) so they sent Douglas back to Washington. Lincoln then had the Lincoln-Douglas debates published as a book and worked methodically to win the GOP nomination for president in 1860.
Cheney is also profoundly mistaken in her claim that Lincoln ignored public opinion to follow some internal conviction against the popular will.
Lincoln was deeply careful about doing what the public wanted. He was possibly the most thoughtful of all American presidents in this regard. Lincoln warned: “In this age, in this country, public sentiment is everything. With it, nothing can fail; against it, nothing can succeed. Whoever molds public sentiment goes deeper than he who enacts statutes, or pronounces judicial decisions.”
Anyone who studies Lincoln’s presidency knows he listened carefully to the American people (at least those in the North who favored maintaining the Union and ultimately supported abolishing slavery).
In an age before polling, President Lincoln routinely held open receptions at the White House.
As Tyler Putnam wrote:
‘”I call these receptions my public-opinion baths,’ answered Lincoln, ‘for I have but little time to read the papers and gather public opinion that way; and, though they may not be pleasant in all their particulars, the effect as a whole is renovating and invigorating to my perceptions of responsibility and duty.’”
Lincoln believed such encounters kept him in touch with “the great popular assemblage out of which I sprang, and to which at the end of two years I must return.”
When Lincoln called for government of the people, by the people, and for the people, he meant everyday folks – not just Ivy League elites.
The government of the people in Wyoming means representing a deeply pro-Donald Trump position. After all, President Trump got 69.94 percent of the vote in Wyoming in 2020.
When Cheney decided her mission in life was destroying President Trump, she was in effect repudiating the people of Wyoming – the people she was supposed to be representing. She had joined the government for the elite – the government for the establishment system – and rejected Lincoln’s formula of government by and for the people.
This was perhaps made most clear in her arrogant closing statement of the Jan. 6 Committee:
“In our country, we don’t swear an oath to an individual, or a political party. We take our oath to defend the United States Constitution. And that oath must mean something. Tonight, I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible: There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain.”
In her concession speech, Cheney continued her anti-Trump fervor which had marked the Jan. 6 Committee as a show trial. Essentially, she was vice chair of a fake committee colluding with the fake news media to produce fake information.
Atty. Gen. Merrick Garland would be well served to consider the Wyoming repudiation of the Jan. 6 Committee’s vice chair – and the number of successful candidates who were supported by President Trump this primary cycle.
It is likely that only two of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach President Trump will survive. An 80 percent defeat rate is historic and unlike anything we have seen in American history. (At the peak of his popularity in 1938, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt failed almost totally in his effort to purge conservatives from his party).
Garland’s Justice Department – having lied to federal judges, harassed Trump supporters, and now sent 30 FBI agents into the former President’s private home – is clearly trying to find grounds to indict President Trump and try him in Washington D.C. (where he got only 5.6 percent of the vote).
President Lincoln’s warning for Garland is simple. Government of the people, by the people, and for the people cannot be repudiated by rigged investigations, hand-picked judges, or stacked juries.
Every step by a tainted FBI and Justice Department against President Trump simply makes it more likely that he will be the Republican nominee. Every effort to block him with legality when he cannot be defeated in the public arena will be a disaster for the country and an assault on Lincoln’s vision of government by the people.
Big Government Socialists may be able to beat President Trump in a general election. That would be legitimate and ultimately accepted by the American people if they thought it was an honest campaign and an honest count.
Trying to block President Trump from competing will enrage at least half the country and increase contempt for the entire bureaucracy – and the larger Washington establishment that thinks it can govern over the people rather than with the people’s consent.
As Lincoln warned “public sentiment is everything.” It is that public sentiment which repudiated Cheney in Wyoming. It is that public sentiment which will repudiate any effort to legally rig the game so Trump can’t run.
Garland is in real risk of becoming the attorney general who broke the public’s belief in an impartial American justice system. That would be a disaster on an historic scale.
Let’s stick with Lincoln and cheerfully repudiate Cheney and Garland.
That was excellent.
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This woman is nuts, psyco even, to the point of being scary. She has lost all insight on how to be a gracious loser and is so full of hate, it will consume her but not before she does some major damage. We need red flag laws for her.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/liz-cheney-blasts-ted-cruz-josh-hawley-as-unfit-for-future-office/ar-AA10UoP3?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=fe75f5cf4ea64098c559bf3dd4fd89cd
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/liz-cheney-blasts-ted-cruz-josh-hawley-as-unfit-for-future-office/ar-AA10UoP3?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=fe75f5cf4ea64098c559bf3dd4fd89cd
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rep-liz-cheney-said-shes-seen-no-evidence-the-mar-a-lago-raid-was-politically-motivated-despite-some-republicans-reflexively-attacking-the-fbi/ar-AA10UwLT
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lizs-list-cheney-names-republicans-she-is-spending-big-to-try-to-take-down/ar-AA10VLbA
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Liz is the result of a political dynasty. Like the others before, she feels that public office is owed to her and her family. Not the first thought as to why the voters rejected her.
The political establishment have now moved away from the voter and actually find them a nuisance. Thus why the push to "reset" as well as the push to change voting. They want to be in control, and only want the voter to think they have a say so in elections.
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Liz is the result of a political dynasty. Like the others before, she feels that public office is owed to her and her family. Not the first thought as to why the voters rejected her.
The political establishment have now moved away from the voter and actually find them a nuisance. Thus why the push to "reset" as well as the push to change voting. They want to be in control, and only want the voter to think they have a say so in elections.
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Read she started a PAC to work against any Trump backed candidate.
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Liz is the result of a political dynasty. Like the others before, she feels that public office is owed to her and her family. Not the first thought as to why the voters rejected her.
The political establishment have now moved away from the voter and actually find them a nuisance. Thus why the push to "reset" as well as the push to change voting. They want to be in control, and only want the voter to think they have a say so in elections.
She hasn't got the guts to face up to it. So it's 'Deflection of Guilt'.
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Liz is the result of a political dynasty. Like the others before, she feels that public office is owed to her and her family. Not the first thought as to why the voters rejected her.
The political establishment have now moved away from the voter and actually find them a nuisance. Thus why the push to "reset" as well as the push to change voting. They want to be in control, and only want the voter to think they have a say so in elections.
We're going to need to actually fight these people at some point, through legal means and the courts of course. Oh totally legal and civil.
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I don't care who you are...
that there is funny!
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I don't care who you are...
that there is funny!
I actually chuckled in real life.
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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha......!!!!!
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I actually chuckled in real life.
I always have a gag reflex when I inadvertently look at that guy.
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I always have a gag reflex when I inadvertently look at that guy.
Yep.
Him and the dude who calls himself michelle obama
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I always have a gag reflex when I inadvertently look at that guy.
He looks like a fat, ugly guy in a wig because that's what he is!!!! Ewwwwww!!!!!