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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 08, 2018, 03:07:37 PM »
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2018/02/08/strassel-tweetstorm-grassley-memo-n2445871

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We'll bring you Wall Street Journal columnist Kimberly Strassel's tweetstorm in a moment, but I'll take a stab at answering her question about the media right out of the gate.  Three possibilities: (1) The GOP hyped the Nunes memo, which quickly became the center of this whole firestorm -- replete with counter-memos, FBI objections, etc.  The press followed the spotlight. (2) As we've been saying, there are so many complex pieces of this larger puzzle, following the plot is difficult.  It's not just news consumers wondering, "which memo is this now?" -- it's many of the people trying to cover this drama, too.  The document in question here is a second, less redacted, version of a Senate memo that few people have even heard of. (3) The Senate memo, produced by non-bomb-throwers Chuck Grassley and Lindsey Graham, is substantially more disruptive to the Democrats' narrative than the Nunes document.  And the press generally prefers Democratic narratives to Republican ones because most journalists are liberals. 

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Spin Zone / Re: The Journalist Protection Act
« on: February 08, 2018, 07:11:13 AM »
So they believe we should protect free speech by restricting the ability to criticize?

Do they not even spend 10 seconds thinking these thing through?

 Nothing says that a congressman has to understand the constitution.  They prove that on a continuing basis.

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Spin Zone / The Journalist Protection Act
« on: February 08, 2018, 06:34:12 AM »
http://www.wnd.com/2018/02/bill-takes-aim-at-trump-makes-intimidating-journalists-a-federal-crime/

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Anti-Trump Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif. – who has vigorously promoted his own “fake news” by accusing Fox News’ Tucker Carlson of working for Vladimir Putin and claiming Trump has “instated more pro-Russia policies that America has seen in decades” – says he’s been inspired by President Trump to propose a law making it a federal crime to “intimidate” or attack journalists.

Swalwell, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, introduced the Journalist Protection Act in the House on Monday. He claimed the legislation must be passed to protect reporters from the “toxic environment” created by President Trump, who has accused some media outlets of reporting “fake news.”

Swalwell’s bill makes it a federal crime “to intentionally cause bodily injury to a journalist affecting interstate or foreign commerce in the course of reporting or in a manner designed to intimidate him or her from newsgathering for a media organization” and “represents a clear statement that assaults against people engaged in reporting is unacceptable, and helps ensure law enforcement is able to punish those who interfere with newsgathering.”

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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 07, 2018, 10:23:37 AM »
What part of 2013 do you not get?

 I'm not cherry picking just tidbits that I like.  I'm looking at the entire scope of what has taken place. 

 You, on the other hand..............

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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 07, 2018, 10:20:51 AM »
Ah, but you forget....Mr. Page was swept up while the FBI was monitoring someone else and well before campaign time. When Page showed up on Team Trump is when it became "interesting".

 I realize reading comprehension is difficult for you, but you clearly don't have a grasp on what's going on here.

 And obviously you approve of the government using questionable means and tactics to circumvent the Fourth Amendment.

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Spin Zone / Re: POTUS wants to know everything we're doing
« on: February 07, 2018, 10:15:00 AM »
Sounds to me like Obama was micromanaging. Taking the OPs quote alone, I don't see evidence of collusion to do anything illegal.

https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-obama-insists-he-doesnt-get-involved-fbi-investiga

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OBAMA: “I can guarantee. I can guarantee that not because I give Attorney General [Loretta] Lynch a directive, that is institutionally how we have always operated. I do not talk to the Attorney General about pending investigations. I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line and always have maintained it. I guarantee it. I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department or the FBI, not just in this case but in any case. Period. Nobody gets treated differently when it comes to the Justice Department because nobody is above the law.”
WALLACE: “Even if she ends up as the Democratic nominee?”
OBAMA: “How many times do I have to say it, Chris? Guaranteed.”


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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 07, 2018, 10:12:28 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: You have to be a real Schiff head to fall for this....
« on: February 07, 2018, 08:47:23 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 05, 2018, 08:04:03 PM »
And they thought they would get away with it, and keep it hidden because Hillary was going to be elected.  Part of the reason they continue to want to delegitimize the Trump Presidency.

 Yep, the fix was in.  Under their plan the progressives would keep power and anyone dare run against them would face the investigative power of the federal government and be promptly destroyed in the MSM.

 But those damn irredeemable deplorables had to show up and vote. 

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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 05, 2018, 06:05:26 PM »
This whole memo fiasco has reminded me that this is nothing more than theater while the real game is elsewhere.

Did Russia have and exercised the capability to plant votes in the Electoral College or not? If this investigation doesn't answer that question, then everything else is a waste of my tax dollars.

 The point you seem to keep missing, or can't comprehend, is that an agency of the US government, the Dept of Justice had used it's power of investigation against a political opponent at the direction of a political party.

 The previous administration had weaponized the DoJ/FBI much in the same way they weaponized the IRS and EPA to go after political opponents.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 05, 2018, 11:56:16 AM »
There certainly is a huge temptation.  I'm hearing from the Left that everything alleged in the memo is OK, standard SOP for the FBI.  No worries.

I'm actually in favor of instructing Mueller to take this into his investigation and follow it to the logical conclusion.  After all, the Left has also told us all along how fair and balanced he is.  I suspect he would get more out of this than a few procedural issues.

 Mueller wouldn't dare touch this.  Or if he did, all the evidence would find it's way to a shredder and Bleachbit.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 05, 2018, 11:07:19 AM »
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/constituents/2018-02-02%20CEG%20LG%20to%20DOJ%20FBI%20%28Unclassified%20Steele%20Referral%29.pdf


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laurettabrown/2018/02/05/grassley-graham-reveal-clinton-associates-fed-info-to-dossier-author-chris-steele-n2444619

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Sen. Grassley expressed frustration Monday with the excessive redactions.

“Seeking transparency and cooperation should not be this challenging," he said in a statement. "The government should not be blotting out information that it admits isn’t secret, and it should not take dramatic steps by Congress and the White House to get answers that the American people are demanding. There are still many questions that can only be answered by complete transparency.  That means declassifying as much of the underlying documents as possible.”


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