PILOT SPIN
Pilot Zone => Pilot Zone => Topic started by: nddons on October 01, 2020, 11:43:02 AM
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CLEAR!
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Why?
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Why?
Anthony’s a Grumman guy.
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I know.
But why make a Grumman a tail dragger?
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I know.
But why make a Grumman a tail dragger?
Why not? Very cool! Love it. Thanks Stan! I don't know that plane.
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Honestly, am I the only one who thinks it's stupid painting a non-military aircraft in military paint schemes? I know people do it for all different reasons, and it's their airplane and money, but meh....
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My only complaint about it is that it makes it harder to see the airplane from above.
There was a couple of times I heard traffic calling near an airport, reporting a lower altitude, and later saw that the airplane had a camo paint scheme (apparently we were both based at KBED). No wonder I didn't see it. (>-{
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Honestly, am I the only one who thinks it's stupid painting a non-military aircraft in military paint schemes? I know people do it for all different reasons, and it's their airplane and money, but meh....
Working Flightline Ops at OSH, every year there are a few RVs and even a Skyhawk in military livery that wants to park in Warbirds, so they show the “WB” card in their windows.
We send the RVs down to homebuilt (and they are quite pissed but oh well) but the Skyhawks could be T-41 Mescalaros, which are as valid as a T-34, so we send them down to Warbirds and let those poor bastards sort it out.
I have no problem with military paint schemes if the plane has some military heritage, like a T-41 or an L-17 Navion, Stinson L-5, even a Piper Cub.
But you gotta love the Invasion Stripes on an RV-8. Also, you have to be careful. I was talking to someone about a particular airplane, and someone told me he was a famous fighter pilot. Not sure if it was Bud Anderson or something, but that taught me to respect what people are trying to do to honor the military. Sure there are some wannabe fighter pilots, but others walked the walk.
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Why not? Very cool! Love it. Thanks Stan! I don't know that plane.
Not as pretty as your next wife Kristi, but still good looking.
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Working Flightline Ops at OSH, every year there are a few RVs and even a Skyhawk in military livery that wants to park in Warbirds, so they show the “WB” card in their windows.
We send the RVs down to homebuilt (and they are quite pissed but oh well) but the Skyhawks could be T-41 Mescalaros, which are as valid as a T-34, so we send them down to Warbirds and let those poor bastards sort it out.
I have no problem with military paint schemes if the plane has some military heritage, like a T-41 or an L-17 Navion, Stinson L-5, even a Piper Cub.
But you gotta love the Invasion Stripes on an RV-8. Also, you have to be careful. I was talking to someone about a particular airplane, and someone told me he was a famous fighter pilot. Not sure if it was Bud Anderson or something, but that taught me to respect what people are trying to do to honor the military. Sure there are some wannabe fighter pilots, but others walked the walk.
You mean the nomex flight suit wearing guys in their RV's?? Ya know, wearing the matching nomex flight gloves? And of course the military aviator sunglasses while they go on and on sprinkling military jargon into their conversations.
Then you find out they never served.............
But hey, there again you have all the doctors, lawyers and businessmen who play dress up on the weekends to go ride their Harley's.
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Honestly, am I the only one who thinks it's stupid painting a non-military aircraft in military paint schemes? I know people do it for all different reasons, and it's their airplane and money, but meh....
I like the military paint schemes. Grumman did some AA1's in MIL paint. Very cool.
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Not as pretty as your next wife Kristi, but still good looking.
I'd like to give her a ride.......... In the plane.
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Not as pretty as your next wife Kristi, but still good looking.
Kristi/Nikki (or perhaps Nikki/Krist) in 2024, after Trump finishes his terms.
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You mean the nomex flight suit wearing guys in their RV's?? Ya know, wearing the matching nomex flight gloves? And of course the military aviator sunglasses while they go on and on sprinkling military jargon into their conversations.
Then you find out they never served.............
But hey, there again you have all the doctors, lawyers and businessmen who play dress up on the weekends to go ride their Harley's.
The CAF requires Nomex for required crew
Members in all CAF aircraft. After the Collings Foundation B-17 crash, it is strongly suggested for passengers. We secured about a dozen flight suits for our SNJ and PT-26 rides events. We didn’t want to be in a spot where the pilot escaped with slight burns, while a pax had 3rd degree burns over 90% of her body.
If it wasn’t for a little embarrassment, I would wear one in every GA flight. Gloves too. Many pilots have died from an in-flight fire that was survivable, but their fingers were burning and they couldn’t hold the stick through the crash.
I was at a meeting with a crew member of Blue Bonnet Bell C-47 crash in July 2018. Even though CAF crew were supposed to wear their flight suits, it was Texas and it was hot, so they were all stowed away in the back. The only one wearing Nomex was the co-pilot.
This guy was wearing shorts. He was the first or second person who jumped out the main door (no one used the emergency exits for some reason) and he hit the ground with feet and hands on the ground right when the gas ignited on the grass. 100LL is a flash fire, so it didn’t last longer than a couple seconds, but he was quite burned on his legs and arms and hands. Months in the hospital.
Here’s a podcast from an interview with the pilot of a T-28 that crashed in Minnesota a year or two ago. Severe burns even with wearing Nomex.
https://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/6/c/6/6c6569098a31e1fc/Chuck_Cook_-_final_mp3.mp3?c_id=65287529&cs_id=65287529&destination_id=519782&expiration=1601664691&hwt=fa7f2ca6b9639da80715d72225904a12
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The CAF requires Nomex for required crew
Members in all CAF aircraft. After the Collings Foundation B-17 crash, it is strongly suggested for passengers. We secured about a dozen flight suits for our SNJ and PT-26 rides events. We didn’t want to be in a spot where the pilot escaped with slight burns, while a pax had 3rd degree burns over 90% of her body.
If it wasn’t for a little embarrassment, I would wear one in every GA flight. Gloves too. Many pilots have died from an in-flight fire that was survivable, but their fingers were burning and they couldn’t hold the stick through the crash.
I was at a meeting with a crew member of Blue Bonnet Bell C-47 crash in July 2018. Even though CAF crew were supposed to wear their flight suits, it was Texas and it was hot, so they were all stowed away in the back. The only one wearing Nomex was the co-pilot.
This guy was wearing shorts. He was the first or second person who jumped out the main door (no one used the emergency exits for some reason) and he hit the ground with feet and hands on the ground right when the gas ignited on the grass. 100LL is a flash fire, so it didn’t last longer than a couple seconds, but he was quite burned on his legs and arms and hands. Months in the hospital.
Here’s a podcast from an interview with the pilot of a T-28 that crashed in Minnesota a year or two ago. Severe burns even with wearing Nomex.
https://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/6/c/6/6c6569098a31e1fc/Chuck_Cook_-_final_mp3.mp3?c_id=65287529&cs_id=65287529&destination_id=519782&expiration=1601664691&hwt=fa7f2ca6b9639da80715d72225904a12
I should have made my font in green............
And yea, I've worn my share of nomex back in the day.
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I should have made my font in green............
And yea, I've worn my share of nomex back in the day.
Understood and I agree about the poseurs. Just thought I’d share my ideas.
The host on the podcast that I linked is Richard McSpadden, director of the AOPA Air Safety Institute. He was my Navion instructor when I almost bought the Navion in May. Super guy.