Post by: nddons on April 14, 2016, 07:38:30 AM
What started as a small gathering of a dozen people has expanded into several hundred who wish to meet periodically, not on school grounds, but in a public park. One of the school's lame arguments? They can't control the quality of food being served by the parents. Oh, and this is an "open campus," where kids can get in their car and go anywhere for lunch.
The effort to make the belief in State superior to the belief in one's faith knows no bounds.
http://www.kttc.com/story/31714997/2016/04/13/middleton-school-officials-ask-parents-to-stop-jesus-lunch-events
Post by: Anthony on April 14, 2016, 08:46:36 AM
Post by: Number7 on April 14, 2016, 08:49:07 AM
Free speech be damned, when the state can decide what speech is free and what is 'dangerous,' or a distraction from the 'educational' (read - indoctrination) process.
Post by: Mr Pou on April 14, 2016, 09:09:02 AM
A Middleton, WI (adjacent to the People's Republic of Madison) school district is trying to halt a gathering of parents and students during the lunch hour from meeting in a public park adjacent to the school to discuss their faith.
They have absolutely no control over what kids do off campus and off the clock. Period.
Post by: Number7 on April 14, 2016, 09:11:09 AM
They have absolutely no control over what kids do off campus and off the clock. Period.
Unfortunately there are courts that love to disagree, and the instances of children being punished, even expelled for facebook posts that the school board disagrees with, or decides are in direct opposition to policy, are far more common than most people realize.
Post by: nddons on April 14, 2016, 09:13:03 AM
More nonsense from our leftist educational system. Many schools have stopped bake sales as they can't control the food content.
Until the federal and state government believing it is their right to own your children, and stop micromanaging their lives, this is the new normal.Did you guys watch the video embedded in the article? Was it just me, or did you also get the feeling that you wanted to punch the principal and district guy in the nose, drag them to the john and give them the swirly's that you know they got when they were in high school?
Free speech be damned, when the state can decide what speech is free and what is 'dangerous,' or a distraction from the 'educational' (read - indoctrination) process.
Post by: Mase on April 14, 2016, 09:18:41 AM
Middleton is a nice town, or used to be. Has a good airport - Morey Field. Which used to be owned by Field Morey. <G>
Post by: Anthony on April 14, 2016, 09:19:53 AM
Did you guys watch the video embedded in the article? Was it just me, or did you also get the feeling that you wanted to punch the principal and district guy in the nose, drag them to the john and give them the swirly's that you know they got when they were in high school?
Yeah, leftist dreck. When I hear the word "divisive", I have to roll my eyes. If people of other faith don't want to go to the lunch then don't go!
Post by: nddons on April 14, 2016, 09:20:33 AM
That sucks.It's still a great airport, though there's no longer a diner on the field. Do you live in Wisconsin?
Middleton is a nice town, or used to be. Has a good airport - Morey Field. Which used to be owned by Field Morey. <G>
Post by: Mase on April 14, 2016, 09:22:15 AM
Post by: Joe-KansasCity on April 14, 2016, 09:32:37 AM
Did you guys watch the video embedded in the article? Was it just me, or did you also get the feeling that you wanted to punch the principal and district guy in the nose, drag them to the john and give them the swirly's that you know they got when they were in high school?
What a load of politically correct horse feces. Why would anyone of any faith give a shit what other students do over their lunch hour.
it's time for the hard working, God-fearing people of that community to take back their school system from the cowardly little control freak statists they have hired to educate their children. This nonsense needs to stop.
Post by: JeffDG on April 14, 2016, 10:36:33 AM
"Thank you for your concerns regarding our off-school program that is voluntary for the attendance of anyone. You can take your demands and shove 'em."
Post by: asechrest on April 14, 2016, 10:45:12 AM
Post by: pilot_dude on April 14, 2016, 11:58:19 AM
Post by: Anthony on April 14, 2016, 12:24:50 PM
The 2nd amendment is what is used to protect the 1st.
And those two school administrator fags need to be stood up against a wall with a blindfold.
Post by: Jaybird180 on April 14, 2016, 01:08:13 PM
Post by: nddons on April 14, 2016, 01:16:45 PM
What a bureaucratic mess !And totally unnecessary, caused by the control freaks in government.
Post by: Mase on April 14, 2016, 02:44:25 PM
The 2nd amendment is what is used to protect the 1st.
And all the others as well.
Post by: nddons on April 20, 2016, 08:06:39 AM
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/education/local_schools/middleton-high-school-s-jesus-lunch-draws-hundreds-to-participate/article_c6902f06-3ad1-5e7b-99d1-cb84d3ad6acd.html
What the fuck is WRONG with people? Why can't the left live and let live, and allow these people to have their good and wholesome lunches and discussions on their Christian faith in peace?
The left is destroying this country. There is NOTHING good to come from protesting these lunches, except to to drive faith into the shadows.
Post by: Number7 on April 20, 2016, 08:08:54 AM
Now the Jesus Lunches are drawing protesters, who are supported by the "Freedom from Religion" foundation.
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/education/local_schools/middleton-high-school-s-jesus-lunch-draws-hundreds-to-participate/article_c6902f06-3ad1-5e7b-99d1-cb84d3ad6acd.html
What the fuck is WRONG with people? Why can't the left live and let live, and allow these people to have their good and wholesome lunches and discussions on their Christian faith in peace?
The left is destroying this country. There is NOTHING good to come from protesting these lunches, except to to drive faith into the shadows.
Unfortunately for the progressives mental cases to win, everything that anybody holds dear must be torn down and destroyed, to be replaced by conformity to the progressive mental illness, and faithfulness only to the state. These people relish destroying anything that makes anyone else happy, because progressives appear to be congenitally unhappy, and the most jealous people on earth, needing to attack and destroy any form of happiness, because it offends their selfish selves.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 20, 2016, 08:28:31 AM
Now the Jesus Lunches are drawing protesters, who are supported by the "Freedom from Religion" foundation.
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/education/local_schools/middleton-high-school-s-jesus-lunch-draws-hundreds-to-participate/article_c6902f06-3ad1-5e7b-99d1-cb84d3ad6acd.html
What the fuck is WRONG with people? Why can't the left live and let live, and allow these people to have their good and wholesome lunches and discussions on their Christian faith in peace?
The left is destroying this country. There is NOTHING good to come from protesting these lunches, except to to drive faith into the shadows.
I wonder if those protesters would protest muslim lunches?
Post by: nddons on April 20, 2016, 08:35:50 AM
I wonder if those protesters would protest muslim lunches?Not on your life. They would be celebrated and invited to be done inside the school building with all the support of the faculty and administration.
Post by: Anthony on April 20, 2016, 08:37:58 AM
Unfortunately for the progressives mental cases to win, everything that anybody holds dear must be torn down and destroyed, to be replaced by conformity to the progressive mental illness, and faithfulness only to the state. These people relish destroying anything that makes anyone else happy, because progressives appear to be congenitally unhappy, and the most jealous people on earth, needing to attack and destroy any form of happiness, because it offends their selfish selves.
^^^^^^^This! Well said.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on April 20, 2016, 09:59:13 AM
Unfortunately for the progressives mental cases to win, everything that anybody holds dear must be torn down and destroyed, to be replaced by conformity to the progressive mental illness, and faithfulness only to the state. These people relish destroying anything that makes anyone else happy, because progressives appear to be congenitally unhappy, and the most jealous people on earth, needing to attack and destroy any form of happiness, because it offends their selfish selves.This is empirically true; the unhappiest people I meet, and friends I have known for years, are almost to a person far left leaning, and seem to have been born destined for unhappiness.
Well, and why not? In their world, nothing can be right or wrong, except that which they declare to be right or wrong, and they tend to declare "wrong" the things that lead to happiness. You know, things like keeping sexual activity in marriage, keeping basically any natural impulse in context, raising children to be mentally healthy, independent adults, looking at the larger picture, thinking through cause and effect, understanding what freedom really means, on and on. This latest attempt to skew laws (and restrooms, for heaven's sake) toward mere fractions of the population is just the latest thing ... now that they've redefined marriage FOR EVERYONE, they have to redefine TOILETS for EVERYONE, creating a bizarre chain of totally predictable results that throw the whole experience of going to the bathroom into chaos.
Nuts.
Post by: nddons on April 20, 2016, 12:56:55 PM
This is empirically true; the unhappiest people I meet, and friends I have known for years, are almost to a person far left leaning, and seem to have been born destined for unhappiness.But, but, Becky! Isn't it critically important that we allow grown men to be in the stall next to you or your daughter or any other female you care about? Where's your compassion?!?!?
Well, and why not? In their world, nothing can be right or wrong, except that which they declare to be right or wrong, and they tend to declare "wrong" the things that lead to happiness. You know, things like keeping sexual activity in marriage, keeping basically any natural impulse in context, raising children to be mentally healthy, independent adults, looking at the larger picture, thinking through cause and effect, understanding what freedom really means, on and on. This latest attempt to skew laws (and restrooms, for heaven's sake) toward mere fractions of the population is just the latest thing ... now that they've redefined marriage FOR EVERYONE, they have to redefine TOILETS for EVERYONE, creating a bizarre chain of totally predictable results that throw the whole experience of going to the bathroom into chaos.
Nuts.
Post by: asechrest on April 20, 2016, 01:01:31 PM
Ya'll are really going to be freaked out with the unisex bathrooms that are starting to pop up.
Post by: nddons on April 20, 2016, 01:40:18 PM
Ya'll are really going to be freaked out with the unisex bathrooms that are starting to pop up.Do they have urinals in these unisex bathrooms, or are men required to sit when they pee?
Post by: Lucifer on April 20, 2016, 01:54:56 PM
Ya'll are really going to be freaked out with the unisex bathrooms that are starting to pop up.
Not really. While traveling in Asia it's not uncommon to be in the men's room at a urinal and the rest room attendants are female.
Post by: Mase on April 20, 2016, 02:25:46 PM
Do they have urinals in these unisex bathrooms, or are men required to sit when they pee?
Naw. We just pee all over the seat and the floor, just like any place else.
Post by: Mase on April 20, 2016, 02:27:27 PM
Ya'll are really going to be freaked out with the unisex bathrooms that are starting to pop up.
Many MANY years ago my wife and I took a vacation to Greece. In an Athens restaurant, she was taken aback by the unisex rest room. It is more common that you might think.
Post by: Anthony on April 20, 2016, 02:36:15 PM
Many MANY years ago my wife and I took a vacation to Greece. In an Athens restaurant, she was taken aback by the unisex rest room. It is more common that you might think.
We aren't Europe, nor Asia. We are the USA, and until recently we were different. I don't want to have to hide my junk from some little girl while I am standing at the urinal.
Post by: Lucifer on April 20, 2016, 02:37:27 PM
Many MANY years ago my wife and I took a vacation to Greece. In an Athens restaurant, she was taken aback by the unisex rest room. It is more common that you might think.
Exactly. Get out of the US and find out it's not that uncommon.
Post by: Joe-KansasCity on April 20, 2016, 02:49:23 PM
Ya'll are really going to be freaked out with the unisex bathrooms that are starting to pop up.
This isn't about unisex restrooms. In restrooms identified for use by "Women", we are now supposed to accept some male with a penis sharing a toilet with our teenage daughters because in spite of his junk, he identifies as a female. It's about expectations. If you go to an establishment with a UNISEX toilet only, one should expect to encounter both males and females while taking care of ones business. We have a restaurant or two in this area that have only UNISEX facilities, and my daughters refuse to frequent those establishments because of that fact. Until now, they were allowed to make that choice. Now that choice has been made for them.
When the the first "confused" male High School student demands to dress in the ladies locker room, things will get very interesting around these parts....
Post by: nddons on April 20, 2016, 04:01:16 PM
This isn't about unisex restrooms. In restrooms identified for use by "Women", we are now supposed to accept some male with a penis sharing a toilet with our teenage daughters because in spite of his junk, he identifies as a female. It's about expectations. If you go to an establishment with a UNISEX toilet only, one should expect to encounter both males and females while taking care of ones business. We have a restaurant or two in this area that have only UNISEX facilities, and my daughters refuse to frequent those establishments because of that fact. Until now, they were allowed to make that choice. Now that choice has been made for them.We are already going down THAT road.
When the the first "confused" male High School student demands to dress in the ladies locker room, things will get very interesting around these parts....
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/02/17/transgender-rule-washington-state-man-undresses-locker-room/80501904/
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 20, 2016, 04:07:02 PM
Post by: Joe-KansasCity on April 20, 2016, 05:44:55 PM
We are already going down THAT road.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/02/17/transgender-rule-washington-state-man-undresses-locker-room/80501904/
Someone's father should teach the Mr "The Law Has Changed" some manners in the privacy of the back alley.
Post by: bflynn on April 21, 2016, 08:07:17 AM
We are already going down THAT road.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/02/17/transgender-rule-washington-state-man-undresses-locker-room/80501904/
I see that the topic has strayed from students eating lunch and praying with their parents.
Continuing with inertia - Here's eight more that you didn't post. This is a bad idea. With the increased visibility that this topic has received I fully expect to see a big jump in these kinds of stories as perverts learn they can legally get a thrill this way.
http://mynorthwest.com/188993/man-caught-undressing-in-front-of-girls-at-green-lake-locker-room/
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Secret-Recording-Store-Mall-Antelope-Valley-Palmdale-Restroom-207541101.html
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Police-Man-in-bra-and-wig-found-in-women-s-3414089.php
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/92510/archives/2010/10/12/cross-dressing-peeper-infiltrates-cal-womens-locker-room
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/25/rodney-kenneth-petersen_n_3496651.html
https://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2008a/080331PoliceVPA.html
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/11/transgender-student-in-womens-locker-room-raises-uproar/
http://www.northwestgeorgianews.com/rome/news/rome-man-arrested-in-women-s-bathroom-at-calhoun-walmart/article_a2883b5e-f6eb-5db0-a240-2431ac0f8081.html
Post by: Number7 on April 21, 2016, 11:51:51 AM
Many MANY years ago my wife and I took a vacation to Greece. In an Athens restaurant, she was taken aback by the unisex rest room. It is more common that you might think.
...and always in places where socialism has nearly destroyed their economies, and taken their country down.
Just saying...
Post by: Anthony on April 21, 2016, 02:21:55 PM
...and always in places where socialism has nearly destroyed their economies, and taken their country down.
Just saying...
That's a good point, and I believe there is both a correlation, and causation.
Post by: Little Joe on April 21, 2016, 05:51:41 PM
Naw. We just pee all over the seat and the floor, just like any place else.Not me. I raise the seat so I won't pee on it. But occasionally, I forget to put it down. As it turns out, I believe women would rather have me pee on the seat than to leave it up. They seem to be incapable of realizing the seat is up and they sit down and fall in.
;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: bflynn on April 21, 2016, 08:22:29 PM
Not me. I raise the seat so I won't pee on it. But occasionally, I forget to put it down. As it turns out, I believe women would rather have me pee on the seat than to leave it up. They seem to be incapable of realizing the seat is up and they sit down and fall in.
;D ;D ;D ;D
I put both seats down. If they can't figure that one out, they have a different problem.
Post by: Mase on April 21, 2016, 08:52:31 PM