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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on April 11, 2023, 02:22:43 AM

Title: Chemtrails
Post by: Rush on April 11, 2023, 02:22:43 AM
Fun Twitter thread about Chemtrails.  Factual explanations and still people believe:

https://twitter.com/MCCCANM/status/1643750871417901056

The chart on global air travel is interesting.  Look at impact of Covid.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: nddons on April 11, 2023, 10:40:13 AM
My cousin’s wife is a chemtrail believer, and well as believer of such things as Hillary and Fauci at at a military tribunal at Guantanamo Bay, etc.  the shit she sends me is mind numbing.

She live about 30-45 miles north of Orlando, and she sent a video over her home saying “See!!!  We are being poisoned by our government!” 

I don’t bother debating her, I’ll just let her live in her little bubble.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Anthony on April 11, 2023, 11:17:40 AM
It's formations of B-17s and B-24s. OK, prove I'm wrong!
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Rush on April 11, 2023, 02:32:31 PM
My cousin’s wife is a chemtrail believer, and well as believer of such things as Hillary and Fauci at at a military tribunal at Guantanamo Bay, etc.  the shit she sends me is mind numbing.

She live about 30-45 miles north of Orlando, and she sent a video over her home saying “See!!!  We are being poisoned by our government!” 

I don’t bother debating her, I’ll just let her live in her little bubble.

No you can’t argue with people like that. It’s not a rational belief so rational debate doesn’t work with them.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 11, 2023, 03:12:47 PM
No you can’t argue with people like that. It’s not a rational belief so rational debate doesn’t work with them.

It's people like that, who elicit responses like yours, that allow our government to get away with poisoning us.

Think about it.

because no one will believe them.

:-)
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Lucifer on April 11, 2023, 05:33:04 PM
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Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: nddons on April 11, 2023, 06:05:30 PM
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If I ever upgrade my Navion panel, I’m getting a chemtrail switch. :)
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Steingar on April 13, 2023, 05:38:56 AM
Actually, as it turns out contrails can affect the weather.

https://www.science.org/content/article/aviation-s-dirty-secret-airplane-contrails-are-surprisingly-potent-cause-global-warming (https://www.science.org/content/article/aviation-s-dirty-secret-airplane-contrails-are-surprisingly-potent-cause-global-warming)
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Anthony on April 13, 2023, 05:42:50 AM
Actually, as it turns out contrails can affect the weather.

https://www.science.org/content/article/aviation-s-dirty-secret-airplane-contrails-are-surprisingly-potent-cause-global-warming (https://www.science.org/content/article/aviation-s-dirty-secret-airplane-contrails-are-surprisingly-potent-cause-global-warming)

Let's put it in perspective.  Is it significant or even a blip on the climate change radar?  NO.  Is anything Man does compared to Volcanoes, Sun activity, other weather phenomena, natural earth climate cycles, etc., significant?  HELL NO. 
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 13, 2023, 05:50:08 AM
apparently the "researchers" didn't look at data collected during the days after 9/11 - when NOBODY was flying.

The science.org article reveals bias in the overuse of adjectives intended to evoke emotonal reaction ("potent", "even more signficant", "more constribution than")

Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Number7 on April 13, 2023, 06:17:35 AM
Actually, as it turns out contrails can affect the weather.

https://www.science.org/content/article/aviation-s-dirty-secret-airplane-contrails-are-surprisingly-potent-cause-global-warming (https://www.science.org/content/article/aviation-s-dirty-secret-airplane-contrails-are-surprisingly-potent-cause-global-warming)

There is that big, yellow, hot thing that rises every morning.
It affects the weather not your bullshit, asshole, communist agenda that you use for a religion.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2023, 06:44:41 AM
Actually, as it turns out contrails can affect the weather.

https://www.science.org/content/article/aviation-s-dirty-secret-airplane-contrails-are-surprisingly-potent-cause-global-warming (https://www.science.org/content/article/aviation-s-dirty-secret-airplane-contrails-are-surprisingly-potent-cause-global-warming)

Let’s say that’s true.  What are you going to do about it?  Ban air travel?  Go back to trains that run on diesel fuel?  Cars?  Electric trains and electric cars that require massive electricity generation?

Ban travel?  (for all except the elite of course)

Completely shut down modern society and restrict all freedom of movement? 

Or just exterminate a few billion people.

Even if there is man made climate change, and there is - the debate is over whether it is a significant amount compared to natural climate cycling - humans can adapt as we have since we first crawled out of the ocean.  In fact, global warming would be very beneficial as it would open up a lot more land for farming.  There are far more deaths every year from cold than warm weather. 

“Climate change” is nothing to fear, even if we are causing it.  To attempt to stop it by implementing energy policy that will drive millions into poverty while the rich continue to enjoy their luxuries and still have dubious impact on the climate is simply misguided at best and evil at worst.

Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Number7 on April 13, 2023, 06:55:35 AM
Mmgw isn’t a fact.
It’s a religion and it’s adherents are just as demented as the catholic inquisitors and modern radical muslims.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Username on April 13, 2023, 07:24:19 AM
Let’s say that’s true.  What are you going to do about it?  Ban air travel?  Go back to trains that run on diesel fuel?  Cars?  Electric trains and electric cars that require massive electricity generation?
Of course not.  It would be silly to ban air travel.  But they can add regulations that restrict air travel to altitudes where aircraft do not produce contrails.  Except for the electric planes and the planes of the elite.  Banning is bad.  But they can add enough regulations that whatever freedom we have is severely restricted.

You can travel, but only in a government approved electric vehicle, charged at a government approved charging station, traveling and charging only at the hours that the government says is appropriate.  See?  We haven't banned travel.  You're totally free.

You can live anywhere you like.  But only the cities will have government approved mass transit.  You folks out in the country... no cars for you.  You're free to live there, though.

Fast food? Sure!  But you need a government approved thin paper straw and no plastic spoons.  And a government approved menu of plant-based Soylent.  Except for Soylent Green.  We won't tell you what's in that.

Education?  Only at a government approved school.  With government approved materials.  Independent thought?  Off to the "special education room".  Wear uniforms so no one is offended.  And on and on and on.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2023, 07:27:46 AM
Of course not.  It would be silly to ban air travel.  But they can add regulations that restrict air travel to altitudes where aircraft do not produce contrails.  Except for the electric planes and the planes of the elite.  Banning is bad.  But they can add enough regulations that whatever freedom we have is severely restricted.

You can travel, but only in a government approved electric vehicle, charged at a government approved charging station, traveling and charging only at the hours that the government says is appropriate.  See?  We haven't banned travel.  You're totally free.

You can live anywhere you like.  But only the cities will have government approved mass transit.  You folks out in the country... no cars for you.  You're free to live there, though.

Fast food? Sure!  But you need a government approved thin paper straw and no plastic spoons.  And a government approved menu of plant-based Soylent.  Except for Soylent Green.  We won't tell you what's in that.

Education?  Only at a government approved school.  With government approved materials.  Independent thought?  Off to the "special education room".  Wear uniforms so no one is offended.  And on and on and on.

Exactly. It’s about totalitarian control, not the climate.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Anthony on April 13, 2023, 09:20:36 AM
I think the goal of the Left/Government/Corporate Alliance is to funnel the non Elite into Public Transportation by making personal travel too expensive and too restrictive.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Username on April 13, 2023, 09:35:02 AM
I think the Left/Government/Corporate Alliance is to funnel the non Elite into Public Transportation by making personal travel too expensive and too restrictive.
Which they can shut off if the masses get too uppity.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2023, 10:09:51 AM
Which they can shut off if the masses get too uppity.

Or do like China and use facial recognition when you try to board and if your social credit score is too low deny boarding.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on April 13, 2023, 10:10:46 AM

Ban travel?  (for all except the elite of course)

Completely shut down modern society and restrict all freedom of movement? 


What do you think is behind the big push to electrify everything? You think the CV "lockdowns were bad, when all vehicles are enabled to be taken offline with the click of mouse, we will have real tyranny.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 13, 2023, 10:41:58 AM
What do you think is behind the big push to electrify everything? You think the CV "lockdowns were bad, when all vehicles are enabled to be taken offline with the click of mouse, we will have real tyranny.

imagine the hackers (foreign and domestic) licking their chops over the prospect of being able to remote disable/control any number of things...

Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2023, 10:49:10 AM
What do you think is behind the big push to electrify everything? You think the CV "lockdowns were bad, when all vehicles are enabled to be taken offline with the click of mouse, we will have real tyranny.

They’re already doing that with regular cars.  Installing a way to shut them off remotely if you don’t make your car payment.  And of course sometimes the car gets shut down even if you did make the payment.  The technology exists.  All we need is for the government to mandate it be installed in all cars.  Then government can disable your car any time it wants, like the next pandemic lockdown, or say you’re a Republican and want to go to DC to protest the cheating in the 2024 election.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: elwood blues on April 13, 2023, 11:56:48 AM
What do you think is behind the big push to electrify everything? You think the CV "lockdowns were bad, when all vehicles are enabled to be taken offline with the click of mouse, we will have real tyranny.

And CBDC.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: nddons on April 13, 2023, 02:52:30 PM
apparently the "researchers" didn't look at data collected during the days after 9/11 - when NOBODY was flying.

The science.org article reveals bias in the overuse of adjectives intended to evoke emotonal reaction ("potent", "even more signficant", "more constribution than")
SILENCE!!!  That’s THE “Diverse Voices in Science Intern” you’re speaking of.  Certainly she wouldn’t expose any bias, and even if it appears to be bias in your small mind, certainly this article is peer reviewed so it must be 100% accurate.

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Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: nddons on April 13, 2023, 02:57:27 PM
There is that big, yellow, hot thing that rises every morning.
It affects the weather not your bullshit, asshole, communist agenda that you use for a religion.
Sure, 173,000 terawatts (trillions of watts) of solar energy strike the earth continuously, which is equivalent to 10,000 times the world’s energy total use.

But those fucking gas stoves and SUVs are killing us!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: nddons on April 13, 2023, 03:58:54 PM
I think the goal of the Left/Government/Corporate Alliance is to funnel the non Elite into Public Transportation by making personal travel too expensive and too restrictive.
Think about how the US has adapted into a suburban lifestyle. There are few suburbs in this country that can be adequately serviced by public transportation. The entire nation is built on being able to literally drive door to door.  Homes are built that way, stores are built that way, and roads are built that way.

Their nirvana can literally never happen.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on April 13, 2023, 04:36:51 PM
Think about how the US has adapted into a suburban lifestyle. There are few suburbs in this country that can be adequately serviced by public transportation. The entire nation is built on being able to literally drive door to door.  Homes are built that way, stores are built that way, and roads are built that way.

Their nirvana can literally never happen.

Won't stop them from doing everything they can to make it happen regardless of the "collateral damage" they cause.
Title: Re: Chemtrails
Post by: nddons on April 13, 2023, 05:51:45 PM
Won't stop them from doing everything they can to make it happen regardless of the "collateral damage" they cause.
They will try, no doubt, but they will fail, just like every other pie in the sky governmental initiative.

The last major governmental program that worked as designed was the interstate system. That’s it, and that was 60 years ago.