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Title: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 19, 2019, 05:33:51 AM
A couple of days ago they published the story of how Trump instructed Cohen to lie to Congress when he testified.  The Left went nuts and started salivating about impeachment. Hell, even the never Trumpers jumped on the Impeachment train. This was it, they had him dead to rights.
I don't watch CNN or MSNBC, but I can imagine there were a lot of on air orgasms over this.  Last night Mueller's team did a Buzz kill on the whole thing and brought their world tumbling down.
Why would anyone believe a thing Buzzfeed publishes at this point?
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Rush on January 19, 2019, 06:13:36 AM
They won't believe the buzz was killed. The damage is already done. Trump haters will believe anything bad about Trump and evidence to the contrary won't matter.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Lucifer on January 19, 2019, 07:15:23 AM
The whole "Trump Russia Collusion" has been proven to be an elaborate hoax, which began under the direction of BHO.   

BHO wanted to use the FBI to spy on the Trump campaign, and they used both the DoJ and FBI through phony FISA warrants, using a phony "Dossier" paid for by Hillary Clinton.   BHO also used unmasking as a way to tap phone calls to the Trump Campaign.

Strzok mentioned "the insurance policy" in case Trump was elected.  We now know the insurance policy was Robert Mueller.

And then you have fake news outlets that played into the narrative, such as Buzzfeed.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Lucifer on January 19, 2019, 07:25:29 AM
Even this morning after Mueller's office debunked the story, many MSM outlets are still pushing the story, or even downplaying the SC remarks on it.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Little Joe on January 19, 2019, 07:30:10 AM
Buzzfeed is also the rag that first published Steele's discredited Trump Dossier.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 19, 2019, 08:20:04 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8GhqV4pdcjs#
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Lucifer on January 19, 2019, 10:25:16 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^BOT!!! Can I use my Moderator powers now???


Please?

Unfortunately, no. 

We must not offend the snowflakes.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: bflynn on January 19, 2019, 10:57:07 AM
They are still running the story...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/lissandravilla/democrats-impeachment-donald-trump-cohen

Even after EVERYONE involved with the story has refuted their reporting.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.html
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Lucifer on January 19, 2019, 11:05:17 AM
The father of fake news, Dan Rather, to this day contends his story on GWB, proved to be fake, is actually true, even though it’s not.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Anthony on January 19, 2019, 11:18:27 AM
The father of fake news, Dan Rather, to this day contends his story on GWB, proved to be fake, is actually true, even though it’s not.

The networks (and now cable) have had a Left Wing bias since Cronkite.  They've always been in that mold.  Brokaw, Jennings, Rather, etc.  Who knows how many lies, and ommitted stories there were in those decades of 100% liberal/progressive media.  It isn't much better today in fact it is worse, because the CNN's of the world are blantant about it. 
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Steingar on January 19, 2019, 11:42:27 AM
Right now the only datum supporting a role for Super Callous Fragile Ego Extra Braggadocious in Russian collision is from what would appear to be an unreliable witness.  But calling the collusion investigation a hoax is simply ignoring the results, given the number of indictments and convictions. I bet the Short Fingered Vulgarian skates on this one, I don’t think they’ve any credible witnesses to link him up. Even if they did, a GOP controlled Senate would never vote to convict.

At the rate things are going this could all be academic in a couple years. The public blames Trump first and the GOP second for the shutdown. If it continues that much longer (and all indications appear that it will) government employees are going to quit en masse to find gainful employment. They’re people, and they gotta eat.  At that point Americans are going to have a very rude introduction into exactly what the government does for them. And I cannot imagine the effect on the economy when the national airspace system shuts down because there is no one to provide security services for the jets that can’t fly without ATC. 

This could get very bad indeed. You guys can cheer from the sidelines because the government you so hate will be doing exactly nothing. I predicted a Trump Presidency would be the end of the GOP, and everything I’m seeing seems to indicate as much. I can’t believe the public will so quickly forget this.

Of course, Trump could declare and emergency and make everything that much worse.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Lucifer on January 19, 2019, 11:53:15 AM
Right now the only datum supporting a role for Super Callous Fragile Ego Extra Braggadocious in Russian collision is from what would appear to be an unreliable witness.  But calling the collusion investigation a hoax is simply ignoring the results, given the number of indictments and convictions. I bet the Short Fingered Vulgarian skates on this one, I don’t think they’ve any credible witnesses to link him up. Even if they did, a GOP controlled Senate would never vote to convict.

At the rate things are going this could all be academic in a couple years. The public blames Trump first and the GOP second for the shutdown. If it continues that much longer (and all indications appear that it will) government employees are going to quit en masse to find gainful employment. They’re people, and they gotta eat.  At that point Americans are going to have a very rude introduction into exactly what the government does for them. And I cannot imagine the effect on the economy when the national airspace system shuts down because there is no one to provide security services for the jets that can’t fly without ATC. 

This could get very bad indeed. You guys can cheer from the sidelines because the government you so hate will be doing exactly nothing. I predicted a Trump Presidency would be the end of the GOP, and everything I’m seeing seems to indicate as much. I can’t believe the public will so quickly forget this.

Of course, Trump could declare and emergency and make everything that much worse.

Thanks for posting the latest progressive talking points.  And great job with all of the ommisions to your claims.  To the progressive, it’s strictly the narrative sans facts.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Anthony on January 19, 2019, 12:26:51 PM
Right now the only datum supporting a role for Super Callous Fragile Ego Extra Braggadocious in Russian collision is from what would appear to be an unreliable witness.  But calling the collusion investigation a hoax is simply ignoring the results, given the number of indictments and convictions. I bet the Short Fingered Vulgarian skates on this one, I don’t think they’ve any credible witnesses to link him up. Even if they did, a GOP controlled Senate would never vote to convict.

At the rate things are going this could all be academic in a couple years. The public blames Trump first and the GOP second for the shutdown. If it continues that much longer (and all indications appear that it will) government employees are going to quit en masse to find gainful employment. They’re people, and they gotta eat.  At that point Americans are going to have a very rude introduction into exactly what the government does for them. And I cannot imagine the effect on the economy when the national airspace system shuts down because there is no one to provide security services for the jets that can’t fly without ATC. 

This could get very bad indeed. You guys can cheer from the sidelines because the government you so hate will be doing exactly nothing. I predicted a Trump Presidency would be the end of the GOP, and everything I’m seeing seems to indicate as much. I can’t believe the public will so quickly forget this.

Of course, Trump could declare and emergency and make everything that much worse.

Did you guys come up with that while watching CNN in the Faculty Lounge?  Do you take notes from their programming, or just record it, and play it back over, and over?
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Steingar on January 19, 2019, 12:51:42 PM
Did you guys come up with that while watching CNN in the Faculty Lounge?  Do you take notes from their programming, or just record it, and play it back over, and over?

No faculty lounge where I think that's for high school teachers, though I could be mistaken.  Still, Trumplethinskin said the shutdown was on him on TV, we all heard it.  Well, maybe you guys didn't, your blinders are pretty amazing.  Every news outlet I've seen that isn't a full time cheering galley for Fuckface von Clownstick (Faux News, the Daily Caller, ANN [Aryan News network] all come to mind]) says the same.  Even my own home rag, which is as conservative as the night is long in midwinter, blames Captain Chaos for the shutdown.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Lucifer on January 19, 2019, 02:03:17 PM
No faculty lounge where I think that's for high school teachers, though I could be mistaken.  Still, Trumplethinskin said the shutdown was on him on TV, we all heard it.  Well, maybe you guys didn't, your blinders are pretty amazing.  Every news outlet I've seen that isn't a full time cheering galley for Fuckface von Clownstick (Faux News, the Daily Caller, ANN [Aryan News network] all come to mind]) says the same.  Even my own home rag, which is as conservative as the night is long in midwinter, blames Captain Chaos for the shutdown.

It's post such as this, that show you are nothing more than a forum troll.

And not a very good one at that.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Anthony on January 19, 2019, 02:20:27 PM
No faculty lounge where I think that's for high school teachers, though I could be mistaken.  Still, Trumplethinskin said the shutdown was on him on TV, we all heard it.  Well, maybe you guys didn't, your blinders are pretty amazing.  Every news outlet I've seen that isn't a full time cheering galley for Fuckface von Clownstick (Faux News, the Daily Caller, ANN [Aryan News network] all come to mind]) says the same.  Even my own home rag, which is as conservative as the night is long in midwinter, blames Captain Chaos for the shutdown.

You realize except for a few talk radio shows, and sometimes Fox News, the entire Media, including Social Media is Far Left Progressive (Democrat) Trump HATERS, right?  You don't see that because your thinking is LOCK step with theirs. 

Trump offered DACA to the Democrats.  They rejected it.  Then they came back and said OK, and by that time Trump was fed up with them, and rightly so.  Now he's going to offer them that, or something else.  If they are smart they will take it.  This is a Democrat caused shutdown.  Why should Trump accept that our National Security continue to be COMPROMISED. 
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Number7 on January 19, 2019, 02:33:22 PM
Mikey is off his anti bipolar meds again.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Rush on January 19, 2019, 02:38:28 PM
Right now the only datum supporting a role for Super Callous Fragile Ego Extra Braggadocious in Russian collision is from what would appear to be an unreliable witness.  But calling the collusion investigation a hoax is simply ignoring the results, given the number of indictments and convictions. I bet the Short Fingered Vulgarian skates on this one, I don’t think they’ve any credible witnesses to link him up. Even if they did, a GOP controlled Senate would never vote to convict.

At the rate things are going this could all be academic in a couple years. The public blames Trump first and the GOP second for the shutdown. If it continues that much longer (and all indications appear that it will) government employees are going to quit en masse to find gainful employment. They’re people, and they gotta eat.  At that point Americans are going to have a very rude introduction into exactly what the government does for them. And I cannot imagine the effect on the economy when the national airspace system shuts down because there is no one to provide security services for the jets that can’t fly without ATC. 

This could get very bad indeed. You guys can cheer from the sidelines because the government you so hate will be doing exactly nothing. I predicted a Trump Presidency would be the end of the GOP, and everything I’m seeing seems to indicate as much. I can’t believe the public will so quickly forget this.

Of course, Trump could declare and emergency and make everything that much worse.

Are you admitting they're not gainfully employed in the government? Or rather, productively employed? Anyway, they won't. They know they'll get back pay and they aren't about to give up their benefits.

I checked into what "services" are not being done. Food inspection is one. I guess we will all die from food poisoning because the Feds didn't bless it.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Anthony on January 19, 2019, 02:39:47 PM
Trump should fire at least half of the Fed workforce.  Companies have to "right size" all the time.  Why not government?
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 19, 2019, 06:59:38 PM
Isn't there some law that allows them to do a RIF after 30 days of shutdown?
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Steingar on January 19, 2019, 07:52:33 PM
Are you admitting they're not gainfully employed in the government? Or rather, productively employed? Anyway, they won't. They know they'll get back pay and they aren't about to give up their benefits.

I checked into what "services" are not being done. Food inspection is one. I guess we will all die from food poisoning because the Feds didn't bless it.

Says me if you aren’t being paid for your efforts you aren’t gainfully employed. Employed perhaps, but not gainfully. 

I also think that Trumplethinskin is doing this all on purpose. Maybe he is a Russian operative, it wouldn’t surprise me at all. He had two years with a Republican Congress quite willing to do whatever he wanted and he waited for this until the Democrats took over. His biggest campaign promise waits until after the midterms. Sorry, I smell a rat, and it I overly fond of McDonald’s.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Number7 on January 19, 2019, 08:07:58 PM
Says me if you aren’t being paid for your efforts you aren’t gainfully employed. Employed perhaps, but not gainfully. 

I also think that Trumplethinskin is doing this all on purpose. Maybe he is a Russian operative, it wouldn’t surprise me at all. He had two years with a Republican Congress quite willing to do whatever he wanted and he waited for this until the Democrats took over. His biggest campaign promise waits until after the midterms. Sorry, I smell a rat, and it I overly fond of McDonald’s.

You are either a very poor liar, or just stupid.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: bflynn on January 19, 2019, 08:08:59 PM
Trump should fire at least half of the Fed workforce.  Companies have to "right size" all the time.  Why not government?

He really shouldn't and he really can't.

What we need is not a partial shutdown.  We need a few programs cut out.  Unfortunately most of those programs are the ones still running because the Democrats (illegally?) funded them indefinitely through entitlement spending.  There is literally no cap on how much money these programs can draw on or how large they can grow to.  If we got rid of the entitlement spending, we could not only have a balanced budget and pay off the entire US debt in 20 years, we could also all get a tax break at the same time!

Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: bflynn on January 19, 2019, 08:12:25 PM
Isn't there some law that allows them to do a RIF after 30 days of shutdown?

There is a law that requires RIFs after a 30 day furlough.  However, in typical government logic, RIFs cannot happen until there's been a reorganization plan executed.  Of course the people to do the reorganization plan are also on furlough, so it will never get done.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/omb_issues_guidance_on_reduction_in_force_layoffs_due_to_partial_shutdown.html
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Rush on January 20, 2019, 08:22:19 AM
Says me if you aren’t being paid for your efforts you aren’t gainfully employed. Employed perhaps, but not gainfully. 

I also think that Trumplethinskin is doing this all on purpose. Maybe he is a Russian operative, it wouldn’t surprise me at all. He had two years with a Republican Congress quite willing to do whatever he wanted and he waited for this until the Democrats took over. His biggest campaign promise waits until after the midterms. Sorry, I smell a rat, and it I overly fond of McDonald’s.

These are serious questions:

Do you, and other Dems, actually believe Trump is a Russian operative? You actually believe he's spent his life bonding with soviets and dreaming of the day he could turn the U.S. over to Russian rule?  Do you think that's what drives him? Do you actually believe he fixed the election(with Russia's help)? Do you actually believe it is impossible that there were enough "flyover country" people and swing voters to reject your hideous corrupt candidate and put Trump in office without Russia fixing the election? Do you really believe that if not for Trump colluding with Russia this country would have elected Hillary?

Why is it so very hard for you to accept that there were enough people sick of the Democrats or repulsed by Clinton to have, if not vote for Trump, at least go third party and cause her loss without any help from Russia at all? Why is that? Are you unaware of the things Hillary did to Bernie Sanders? Are you unable to understand why people would respond to Trumps tax cut promise?
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Lucifer on January 20, 2019, 08:29:00 AM
These are serious questions:

Do you, and other Dems, actually believe Trump is a Russian operative? You actually believe he's spent his life bonding with soviets and dreaming of the day he could turn the U.S. over to Russian rule?  Do you think that's what drives him? Do you actually believe he fixed the election(with Russia's help)? Do you actually believe it is impossible that there were enough "flyover country" people and swing voters to reject your hideous corrupt candidate and put Trump in office without Russia fixing the election? Do you really believe that if not for Trump colluding with Russia this country would have elected Hillary?

Why is it so very hard for you to accept that there were enough people sick of the Democrats or repulsed by Clinton to have, if not vote for Trump, at least go third party and cause her loss without any help from Russia at all? Why is that? Are you unaware of the things Hillary did to Bernie Sanders? Are you unable to understand why people would respond to Trumps tax cut promise?

All good questions.  Perfesser Troll won't answer, or he'll just give you a trolling response.

With the mountains of evidence clearly showing the whole "Russia collusion" was nothing more than a BHO use of the DOJ/FBI to spy on, then try to unseat a duly elected president, only a real moron would continue to believe the narrative that the dims so desperately want to be true.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 20, 2019, 08:34:31 AM
These are serious questions:

Do you, and other Dems, actually believe Trump is a Russian operative? You actually believe he's spent his life bonding with soviets and dreaming of the day he could turn the U.S. over to Russian rule?  Do you think that's what drives him? Do you actually believe he fixed the election(with Russia's help)? Do you actually believe it is impossible that there were enough "flyover country" people and swing voters to reject your hideous corrupt candidate and put Trump in office without Russia fixing the election? Do you really believe that if not for Trump colluding with Russia this country would have elected Hillary?

Why is it so very hard for you to accept that there were enough people sick of the Democrats or repulsed by Clinton to have, if not vote for Trump, at least go third party and cause her loss without any help from Russia at all? Why is that? Are you unaware of the things Hillary did to Bernie Sanders? Are you unable to understand why people would respond to Trumps tax cut promise?
Were Steingar to answer each of these questions honestly and thoughtfully, he’d have to become a conservative. Therefore he will ignore your post and disappear for a while or he will post something as convoluted as the one you responded to.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Number7 on January 20, 2019, 09:55:09 AM
I’m waiting for Steingar to start babbling the buzzfeed lie.

There’s historical weight to my statement as he claims that Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Anthony on January 20, 2019, 11:41:33 AM
^^^^^^^^
Exaclty.  The Democrats and MEDIA made up the entire Russia thing because THEY LOST and couldn't tolerate nor understand it.  Now they demonize us as being uneducated, and being against education.  We are actually against indoctrination which education has become. 
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Rush on January 20, 2019, 12:15:37 PM
^^^^^^^^
Exaclty.  The Democrats and MEDIA made up the entire Russia thing because THEY LOST and couldn't tolerate nor understand it.  Now they demonize us as being uneducated, and being against education.  We are actually against indoctrination which education has become.

There is a grain of truth in it. The Russians and several other countries do of course try to interfere in our elections... every one, and have always done so. And we try to interfere in other countries' elections or otherwise meddle with their rulership. It's business as usual.

The difference is the media making as if this is the first and only time and that Trump had anything to do with it. That is utter fabrication while the media fails to address the ties Clinton had with Russia.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Steingar on January 20, 2019, 12:55:33 PM
These are serious questions:

Do you, and other Dems, actually believe Trump is a Russian operative?

The real worry is they've got something on him.  What I won't claim to know, but his deferential treatment of Putin seems to suggest such.

You actually believe he's spent his life bonding with soviets and dreaming of the day he could turn the U.S. over to Russian rule?  Do you think that's what drives him? Do you actually believe he fixed the election(with Russia's help)?

I never thought Trump had anything to do with the Russian special services attack on our election (some of which showed up on this very site).  That slick he is not.  I always figured if there was any collusion it would've been amateurish and unsuccessful.  Putin wouldn't allow that, he wanted to put Trumplethinskin in the White House and keep him there. Putin wants to destabilize the West, and no better way to do that than put a clown in the White House.  Hire a clown, expect a circus.

Do you actually believe it is impossible that there were enough "flyover country" people and swing voters to reject your hideous corrupt candidate and put Trump in office without Russia fixing the election? Do you really believe that if not for Trump colluding with Russia this country would have elected Hillary?

Hard to say, history is like that.  A lot of people are less than happy about their lot and don't feel either party really represent them.  This is a trend going on in more than a few democracies, and it has birthed things like Brexit and the loss of democracy in Hungary.  On the other hand it was  a very close election that Captain Chaos lost.  Could it have swing the other way without all the Russian crap?  Maybe.

Why is it so very hard for you to accept that there were enough people sick of the Democrats or repulsed by Clinton to have, if not vote for Trump, at least go third party and cause her loss without any help from Russia at all? Why is that? Are you unaware of the things Hillary did to Bernie Sanders? Are you unable to understand why people would respond to Trumps tax cut promise?

Oh I can very well see there were a lot of folks fed up with the status quo and wanting something different.  I doubt they got what they wanted, I don't think anyone wanted little kids separated from their parents, and I doubt anyone who voted for him saw even the tiniest piece of that tax cut.  I doubt anyone outside of this board is happy that government employees have to do their jobs absent their salaries.

I think that's why the Democrats took over the House at the midterms, and I think that's why they'll get the Senate after the next.  We may even see the first incumbent president loose a national election since George Bush the Elder.  I suspect that a lot of the people who supported him are tired of diplomacy by twitter and the fast food White House.  I've never seen an administration so awash with scandal and so utterly dysfunctional.

Even if he survives 2020 there'll be a Democratic Congress to limit the damage.  I suspect historians will regard him as the worst president in history.  It takes a lot to make me nostalgic for Bush the Younger.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Lucifer on January 20, 2019, 01:04:18 PM
The worse President in modern history goes to Barack Hussein Obama.   His legacy has been unmatched with failure after failure, multiple scandals and driving the US economy to low levels. 

BHO was the perfect example of what happens when you put a total amateur in the WH.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Little Joe on January 20, 2019, 02:08:43 PM

Oh I can very well see there were a lot of folks fed up with the status quo and wanting something different.  I doubt they got what they wanted, I don't think anyone wanted little kids separated from their parents,
No, but we do like seeing kids separated from kidnappers and child traffickers.
We wanted to see people sneaking in detained, but we didn't want to see kids detained in adult detention centers.

and I doubt anyone who voted for him saw even the tiniest piece of that tax cut.  I doubt anyone outside of this board is happy that government employees have to do their jobs absent their salaries.
Well, you are just wrong.  I know from personal experience that many low paid ($20-$30-$40k/year) workers received a substantial increase in take-home pay due to the tax cuts.  I also know of many that got bonuses and raises due to the tax cuts.  And I know of at least a few that got jobs because of the tax cuts.
Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Lucifer on January 20, 2019, 04:59:03 PM
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Title: Re: Does Buzzfeed Survive.......
Post by: Rush on January 20, 2019, 06:07:11 PM
The real worry is they've got something on him.  What I won't claim to know, but his deferential treatment of Putin seems to suggest such.

Putin "has something" on Trump?  And that's causing him to be deferential to Putin?  I'm out of the loop, I don't know anything about this. Are you talking about pulling the troops out of Syria?

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I never thought Trump had anything to do with the Russian special services attack on our election (some of which showed up on this very site).  That slick he is not.  I always figured if there was any collusion it would've been amateurish and unsuccessful.  Putin wouldn't allow that, he wanted to put Trumplethinskin in the White House and keep him there. Putin wants to destabilize the West, and no better way to do that than put a clown in the White House.  Hire a clown, expect a circus.

This site?  When, where? I missed that too.  How is Trump destabilizing things? The economy is stronger, the U.S. is becoming energy independent, and Trump is negotiating better trade deals. How is that weakening us?

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Hard to say, history is like that. A lot of people are less than happy about their lot and don't feel either party really represent them.  This is a trend going on in more than a few democracies, and it has birthed things like Brexit and the loss of democracy in Hungary.  On the other hand it was  a very close election that Captain Chaos lost.  Could it have swing the other way without all the Russian crap?  Maybe.

Agree completely!  I think many in both Democrat and Republican party are sick of their party. It's also true it could have swung the other way, our elections are boiling down to a few crucial urban locations, and the country is still a stable 50/50 split. The elections are becoming dependent on a few center swing votes and a few specific locations. But I seriously doubt Russia could make it go one way or the other.

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Oh I can very well see there were a lot of folks fed up with the status quo and wanting something different. I doubt they got what they wanted, I don't think anyone wanted little kids separated from their parents, and I doubt anyone who voted for him saw even the tiniest piece of that tax cut.  I doubt anyone outside of this board is happy that government employees have to do their jobs absent their salaries.

Agree completely the bolded part and also agree some didn't get what they thought they were getting. Some think that the worse divide in the country since the election is Trump's fault, but I think it's more the media's and the Dems and neverTrumper RINOs' fault fanning the flames of hatred toward Trump and trying to tear him down at every turn.  The little kids separated from parents also happened under Obama but the media covers up that fact and some people don't realize Trump isn't doing anything Obama didn't.

I know some people who aren't happy with the tax change but many more who are thrilled.  I will tell you our exact numbers.  I calculated our 2017 taxes as if the Trump 2018 changes had taken place, and in 2017 if Trump's tax change had been in place, we would have paid $3579 less federal income tax. 

Doing it the other way around, how much less did we pay in 2018 over if the 2017 tax was still in effect, it's closer to $4000 but I would have to crunch the numbers again.

I think the majority of people will pay lower taxes, although certain people may pay more, like the ones who had huge deductions for employment expenses or local taxes. But there's a huge benefit in jobs added from the tax cut. Companies are hiring more, and giving bonuses, and bringing business back to the U.S. from abroad. Lowering taxes is an economic stimulus, nobody can deny that. The left would rather "stimulate" by taking higher taxes and redistributing it, or by printing worthless monopoly money and injecting it into the economy causing inflation. But lowering taxes creates actual real economic growth.

I do feel for the employees who aren't getting paid, but that is at least as much the Dems fault as Trump's. Trump was elected on the issue of the wall more than any one thing, the polls make that very clear. So when he tries to keep his promise the Dems stand in the way and block it. The Dems are blocking Trump from fulfilling the very promise he was most elected for by the voters, so they are going against the will of the people. I know Trump said he'd "own" the shut down. That's not the same thing as saying he is to blame for it, he is saying he'll accept the consequences for sticking to his promise that he made to those who voted for him.

In any case those employees are learning a hard lesson, one that I myself had to learn. Always keep 3-6 months living expenses in cash in a checking or savings account. Emergency cushion. If they didn't already know to do that, this should teach them.  No, saying they live paycheck to paycheck is no excuse: what they are doing is living above their means if they don't have that cushion; they need a financial slap upside the head anyway if they can't weather a few weeks with delayed paycheck.

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I think that's why the Democrats took over the House at the midterms, and I think that's why they'll get the Senate after the next.  We may even see the first incumbent president loose a national election since George Bush the Elder.  I suspect that a lot of the people who supported him are tired of diplomacy by twitter and the fast food White House.  I've never seen an administration so awash with scandal and so utterly dysfunctional.

Agree about the twitter (that many don't like it) and I cannot even guess what the next elections are going to do. But I have no clue what you mean by "dysfunctional". Trump is more functional than any other president in my lifetime.  I have this contract he made before he was elected, with all his promises and I am keeping track. He is actually keeping them. He's doing what he said he would. Record low unemployment. Record high employment rates among blacks and hispanics. Lowered taxes, loosened energy regulations, negotiated better trade deals, brought Kim nutbucket over there to the table, and is actually developing good relations with Putin, the "deferential" you don't like, I don't see that as a threat, I see it as a good thing. I'd like to be friends with Russia.

Anyway, look at all the stuff he's doing. He is functioning. He's doing all this while all the media and the Dems are howling for his head and trying to get him on some technicality so they can impeach him and undo the election all because they simply cannot accept that their "heir apparent" didn't win.

Even if you disagree with what he is doing, you have to admit he is doing stuff. And he is doing exactly the stuff he promised he would on the campaign. That sure sounds functional, my God, no president in my lifetime has kept promises like he has.

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Even if he survives 2020 there'll be a Democratic Congress to limit the damage.  I suspect historians will regard him as the worst president in history.  It takes a lot to make me nostalgic for Bush the Younger.

I think many left wing university historians will do exactly as you say. But it won't be true. Right now he looks to me (and probably to historians who are not left wing) like the best president in history. A lot will depend on what happens from this point on. If the Dems will just get the hell out of the way and let the economy boom we may experience the strongest best era in our history, but if the Dems succeed in undoing his accomplishments, then we will just get back on the downward slide we had under Obama, and it won't look like he did anything great.

Thanks for answering my questions!
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Post by: Number7 on January 20, 2019, 07:30:58 PM
The thing that bed wetting liberals like steingar HATE most about President Donald Trump is that he is doing exactly what he said he would do when elected, and that weakens the swamp day by day, making them less and less important.

The sad thing is that steingar is so blindly wrapped up in his indoctrination that he can;t hold an independent thought in his head, and has become so narrow minded that he thinks independent thinking is brainwashing at its worst.

...that and the fact that he still believes shit like buzzfeed.
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Post by: Anthony on January 21, 2019, 06:58:44 AM
The Democrats (liberal/progressives) would rather see this country further decline than Trump's policies succeed.  That is how corrupt they are.  Their Utopian vision is very, very damaging to freedom. 

This is why they have all the different names for Trump supporters.  Very childish.  What did Jeff call us?  Trumpkins?  I've seen Trumplings, Trumpers, Trumpeters, Trumpsters, Trumpettes, Trumpies, and many more.