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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: iryan on October 23, 2017, 08:32:44 AM

Title: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: iryan on October 23, 2017, 08:32:44 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/23/report-mueller-probe-expands-to-democratic-lobbyist-tony-podestas-russia-dealings.html[url]] (http://[/url)http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/23/report-mueller-probe-expands-to-democratic-lobbyist-tony-podestas-russia-dealings.htmlhttp://

Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 23, 2017, 09:29:07 AM
Knowing the history of Mueller I would venture to say this is a ploy, a political decoy. 

Or, given that Mueller is up to his neck in the Russian Collusion/ Uranium One scandal he maybe playing his hand to save his own ass.

Time will tell.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 23, 2017, 09:49:19 AM
Or perhaps a ploy to try and head off a real investigation of Uranium One and the Clintons.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 23, 2017, 09:54:10 AM
Or perhaps a ploy to try and head off a real investigation of Uranium One and the Clintons.

Yep.  Any way you cut it Mueller is a scumbag that doesn’t want the truth to see the light of day.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 23, 2017, 09:59:13 AM
The Clinton Russian Collusion/Uranium One scandal is one of the biggest scandals to hit Washington DC since Watergate.  If the investigation doesn’t get covered up and justice prevails lots of high profile establishment types will be indicted, starting with HRC. 

The Dems have lots to lose with this and maybe the final nail in the coffin for the progressives who have hijacked the party.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Number7 on October 23, 2017, 02:07:53 PM
I suspect (very strongly) that the Clintons will use everything at their disposal to destroy those who know their criminal behavior and those who attempt to ferret it out.

Harvey Weinstein's head is on a pike right now to keep the from paying close attention to the Uranium One scandal. I wonder if the Las Vegas shooting was another ploy to hijack attention away from it.

The shooter was so obviously a far left democrat and his behavior was so far off the scale that holding a conspiracy theory about him might be appropriate.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 23, 2017, 02:31:21 PM
https://townhall.com/columnists/susanstamperbrown/2017/10/23/surprise-big-media-ignores-the-real-russian-scandal-n2398932
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 24, 2017, 09:41:38 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/10/24/blackout-russiaobsessed-media-strangely-subdued-on-democratrelated-stories-n2399091
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 24, 2017, 09:42:43 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/10/24/its-on-gowdy-n2399599
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 24, 2017, 06:46:12 PM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/10/24/bombshell-hillary-campaign-funded-research-for-trumprussia-dossier-n2399823
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 24, 2017, 06:48:08 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.3e092e25b38d
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 24, 2017, 06:48:44 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fbis-political-meddling-1508883468
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 25, 2017, 02:44:12 AM
Do we really think anything will come of this? 


Why isn't the AG looking into this and doing something?
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 05:42:12 AM
Do we really think anything will come of this? 


Why isn't the AG looking into this and doing something?

 I have my doubts as well.  As this unfolds we are now seeing much of the motive to the phony Trump Russia Collusion story.   Odd how the players in the Clinton Russian Collusion/Uranium One scandal (Rod Rosenstein, Andrew McCabe, Robert Mueller and James Comey) are now all involved in the phony Trump investigation.

 I said it before, this is one of the biggest scandals to hit DC since Watergate, and the media is doing all they can to look the other way.  And Mueller is spending Million$ of our tax dollars trying to gin up some evidence, aanything, he can pin on Trump in hopes of keeping the heat off of him and the Clintons.   It's as dirty as it gets.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 05:56:20 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-24/democrats-distance-themselves-hillary-new-dnc-denies-knowledge-trump-dossier-funding
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on October 25, 2017, 06:11:33 AM
Trump should fire Mueller. Today.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 06:30:59 AM
Trump should fire Mueller. Today.

 While I agree with the sentiment, it unfortunately would open a can of worms.  Jeff Sessions should fire Mueller for his involvement in Uranium One and then launch an investigation on the Clintons, Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey and McCabe.   The phony Trump Investigation should also be shut down on the grounds that it was a clear politically motivated investigation with no basis in fact.

 The only silver lining I am seeing in all of this is the mainstream democrats are sick and tired of the Clintons.   Perhaps, just perhaps they are seeing this as a way to finally rid themselves of them and get a fresh start to start climbing out their hole.   Unfortunately their party is still being run by the lunatic progressives that they also need to kick to the curb.

 Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on October 25, 2017, 07:47:13 AM
Trump should get rid of Sessions. He is not a war-time AG.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 08:07:38 AM
Trump should get rid of Sessions. He is not a war-time AG.

 Sessions is a part of the establishment.  He has been a real disappointment as AG, albeit better than the last two buffoons that occupied the AG post.   But Sessions is loyal to his masters which will be his ultimate undoing.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: bflynn on October 25, 2017, 08:24:48 AM
Trump should get rid of Sessions. He is not a war-time AG.

Anyone else you think the president should fire?

I have no problem with any of what's going on right now.  Leaks have stopped coming out of Mueller's investigation, I presume because those who did the leaking in the past (and they're all democrats) don't want the information they're finding to become public.  That would imply that it's damaging not just to Hillary but also to the Democrat party in general.  It looks like a lot of the political weaponization of government is being exposed.  Let the man work.

There is practically no chance of the president being removed from office.  Democrats might beat the odds and take over the House next year and impeach him, but they are very unlikely to find 67 votes in the Senate to remove him him from office, so any impeachment proceedings are probably nothing more than a temper tantrum.  If they are able to find the votes, it will be for a very, very good reason.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 08:39:46 AM
http://nypost.com/2017/10/24/the-trump-dossier-was-clintons-dirtiest-political-trick/

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In short, we now have compelling evidence that the dossier was the largest and dirtiest dirty trick of the 2016 campaign. And Clinton, who has played the victim card ever since her loss, was behind it the whole time.

Anybody surprised? Me neither.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on October 25, 2017, 08:42:08 AM
Sessions is a part of the establishment.  He has been a real disappointment as AG, albeit better than the last two buffoons that occupied the AG post.   But Sessions is loyal to his masters which will be his ultimate undoing.

All the more reason to send him packing. Get a real cop in place.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on October 25, 2017, 08:43:36 AM
If they are able to find the votes, it will be for a very, very good reason.

Yeah, he's a threat to their phoney baloney jobs.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 09:10:15 AM
It's picking up traction as more media outlets are covering it.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/clinton-campaign-dnc-helped-pay-for-work-on-dossier-about-russia-and-trump/

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-after-trump-dossier-revelation-fbi-is-next/article/2638540
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on October 25, 2017, 09:18:15 AM
It's picking up traction as more media outlets are covering it.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/clinton-campaign-dnc-helped-pay-for-work-on-dossier-about-russia-and-trump/

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-after-trump-dossier-revelation-fbi-is-next/article/2638540

Yeah but the operatives are already claiming it was first funded by the GOP and that it's now a diversion tactic by Trump,
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 09:22:52 AM
Yeah but the operatives are already claiming it was first funded by the GOP and that it's now a diversion tactic by Trump,

 Yep, of course.

 But it leads into even bigger problems such as the actual Clinton-Russian collusion that already has hard evidence and the Uranium One scandal.   And this also includes all of the characters in the Mueller investigation as suspects.

 My bet is they will throw the Clintons under the bus to save their own asses and the mainstream democrats will welcome the end of the Clinton era.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 09:26:25 AM
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/25/journos-downplay-trump-dossier-revelations-video/
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: invflatspin on October 25, 2017, 10:42:40 AM
Newsweak going after Clinton on Uranium One.

http://www.newsweek.com/obama-and-clinton-russia-probe-widens-information-nuclear-official-was-granted-692524

I am shocked they would publish this.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 10:50:35 AM
Newsweak going after Clinton on Uranium One.

http://www.newsweek.com/obama-and-clinton-russia-probe-widens-information-nuclear-official-was-granted-692524

I am shocked they would publish this.

 The story is overwhelming.  The mainstream democrats know this and in their wisdom "never let a crisis go to waste".  This will be how they finally rid themselves of the Clintons.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: nddons on October 25, 2017, 10:55:41 AM
I have my doubts as well.  As this unfolds we are now seeing much of the motive to the phony Trump Russia Collusion story.   Odd how the players in the Clinton Russian Collusion/Uranium One scandal (Rod Rosenstein, Andrew McCabe, Robert Mueller and James Comey) are now all involved in the phony Trump investigation.

 I said it before, this is one of the biggest scandals to hit DC since Watergate, and the media is doing all they can to look the other way.  And Mueller is spending Million$ of our tax dollars trying to gin up some evidence, aanything, he can pin on Trump in hopes of keeping the heat off of him and the Clintons.   It's as dirty as it gets.
If this thing doesn't explode and people (plural) going to prison, then that confirms to me that the Tree of Liberty is very, very thirsty and must be refreshed.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 11:12:58 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/10/25/grassley-bring-in-a-special-counsel-on-uranium-one-n2400126
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on October 25, 2017, 11:19:00 AM
If this thing doesn't explode and people (plural) going to prison, then that confirms to me that the Tree of Liberty is very, very thirsty and must be refreshed.

Certain levels of "animals" don't go to prison.

'All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.'
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: invflatspin on October 25, 2017, 12:08:00 PM
I think I can assure everyone that NO ONE will ever go to prison from the beltway. Unless there is some kind of violent confrontation any kind of legal trouble will result in fines, censure, loss of position. Truly, not all animals are equal. Many around DC are more equal than others. If I were in charge, there would be massive number of people in jail from both parties.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 12:29:47 PM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/10/25/former-bush-aide-it-sure-looks-like-hillary-clintons-campaign-colluded-with-the-n2400143
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 01:40:47 PM
Real classy:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/10/25/exclinton-spokesperson-i-would-have-colluded-with-former-mi6-spy-on-trump-dossier-n2400140
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 03:01:10 PM
Rut Row..............

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/25/fec-complaint-accuses-clinton-dnc-violations/

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Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee violated campaign finance law by failing to disclose payments for a dossier on Donald Trump, according to a complaint filed Wednesday with the Federal Election Commission.
The complaint from the nonprofit Campaign Legal Center said the Democrats effectively hid the payments from public scrutiny, contrary to the requirements of federal law. By law, campaign and party committees must disclose the reason money is spent and its recipient.
“By filing misleading reports, the DNC and Clinton campaign undermined the vital public information role of campaign disclosures,” said Adav Noti, senior director of trial litigation and strategy at CLC and a former FEC official. “Voters need campaign disclosure laws to be enforced so they can hold candidates accountable for how they raise and spend money. The FEC must investigate this apparent violation and take appropriate action.”
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 25, 2017, 06:16:52 PM
The FBI informant is being released to testify.  I hope he has full time security because his life is not worth much right now.



Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2017, 07:51:13 PM
http://nypost.com/2017/10/25/why-doesnt-hillarys-dossier-trick-count-as-treason/

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Now, you might expect that the scandalous revelation of a political campaign using opposition research that was partially obtained from a hostile foreign power during a national election would ignite shrieks of “collusion” from all patriotic citizens. After all, only last summer, when it was reported that Donald Trump Jr. met with a Kremlin-linked Russian lawyer who claimed to be in possession of damaging information about Clinton, there was widespread condemnation.

Finally, we were told, a smoking gun tied the Trump campaign to Vladimir Putin. Former Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine went as far as to suggest that the independent counsel begin investigating treason.

Treason! Trump Jr. didn’t even pay for or accept research.

The Clinton crew, on the other hand, did. They didn’t openly push the contents of the dossier — probably because they knew it was mostly fiction. Instead, Fusion GPS leaked it to their friends in the media.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 26, 2017, 06:21:49 AM
This morning on CNN Headline News (was on the hotel lobby TV) I watched a segment where now CNN is trying to link Trump to Julian Assange.  Of course they tried to make it look nefarious as possible, then kept repeating over and over about the "Trump Russian Collusian Investigation".

 The next segment was the "Clinton Fusian GPS Dossier" in which we were told that Hillary had no knowledge of before the election.  They spent less than a minute on that one.    And no mention of Uranium One.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 26, 2017, 06:24:48 AM
They'll have to get this guy out of the country and into a witness protection program, or otherwise he will have an unfortunate accident or a botched robbery attempt resulting in his death.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/10/26/doj-lifts-gag-order-fbi-informant-can-speak-about-uranium-one-deal-n2400446
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: nddons on October 26, 2017, 07:23:14 AM
The FBI informant is being released to testify.  I hope he has full time security because his life is not worth much right now.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Anthony on October 26, 2017, 07:27:01 AM
This morning on CNN Headline News (was on the hotel lobby TV) I watched a segment where now CNN is trying to link Trump to Julian Assange.  Of course they tried to make it look nefarious as possible, then kept repeating over and over about the "Trump Russian Collusian Investigation".

 The next segment was the "Clinton Fusian GPS Dossier" in which we were told that Hillary had no knowledge of before the election.  They spent less than a minute on that one.    And no mention of Uranium One.

I'm not surprised.  CNN, NBC/MSNBC are the worst of the worst. 
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on October 26, 2017, 08:35:07 AM
This morning on CNN Headline News (was on the hotel lobby TV) I watched a segment where now CNN is trying to link Trump to Julian Assange.  Of course they tried to make it look nefarious as possible, then kept repeating over and over about the "Trump Russian Collusian Investigation".

 The next segment was the "Clinton Fusian GPS Dossier" in which we were told that Hillary had no knowledge of before the election.  They spent less than a minute on that one.    And no mention of Uranium One.

Media bias is a right wing conspiracy.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: jb1842 on October 26, 2017, 09:28:26 AM
They'll have to get this guy out of the country and into a witness protection program, or otherwise he will have an unfortunate accident or a botched robbery attempt resulting in his death.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/10/26/doj-lifts-gag-order-fbi-informant-can-speak-about-uranium-one-deal-n2400446

Nah. it will be a suicide with a gunshot to the back of the head.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Lucifer on October 26, 2017, 09:34:45 AM
Nah. it will be a suicide with a gunshot to the back of the head.

“Vince Foster and Seth Rich have no comments on this story.....”
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Little Joe on October 26, 2017, 11:08:39 AM
Nah. it will be a suicide with a gunshot to the back of the head.
Just to make sure, it will be two self inflicted gunshots to the back of the head.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: nddons on October 26, 2017, 11:38:09 AM
Just to make sure, it will be two self inflicted gunshots to the back of the head.
And the coroner's report will say he died of "natural causes."
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Little Joe on October 26, 2017, 01:00:39 PM
I couldn't paste it, so let's see if this works:
https://www.arcamax.com/politics/editorialcartoons/lisabenson/

If it comes up on a different day, navigate to Oct 26.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: Number7 on October 26, 2017, 06:46:45 PM
The ugliest thing about the Fusin One scandal is that the entire time the democrats were screaming about Trump’s Russian collaboration, they were completely aware that everything they were claiming was done and bein* done by their own party with the willing and intentional assistance of the FBI.

That level of hypocrisy and projection is only possible for democrats.

Republicans don’t the lying skills necessary to pull it off.
Title: Re: Becareful what you wish for....
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on October 26, 2017, 07:01:09 PM
The ugliest thing about the Fusin One scandal is that the entire time the democrats were screaming about Trump’s Russian collaboration, they were completely aware that everything they were claiming was done and bein* done by their own party with the willing and intentional assistance of the FBI.

That level of hypocrisy and projection is only possible for democrats.

Republicans don’t the lying skills necessary to pull it off.

They were banking on Trump folding or getting forced out and their tracks would be covered.