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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Little Joe on June 28, 2023, 01:03:15 PM

Title: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Little Joe on June 28, 2023, 01:03:15 PM
Which of the following President's did NOT own slaves?

Carter
Clinton
Biden
Obama
Trump

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-slavery-lawmakers-overview/


Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Rush on June 28, 2023, 01:20:19 PM
Trump
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on June 28, 2023, 02:21:35 PM
Are we responsible for what people did before we were born?

Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Little Joe on June 28, 2023, 02:28:17 PM
Are we responsible for what people did before we were born?
That was my first reaction to the article.  I just thought it was amusing that four out of five recent presidents with slave-owning ancestors were Democrats, including Obama.  But I did swap Bush for Trump in my question just to make a point.  I rationalize that  with the fact that the press and politicians do that every day.

SO WHAT?  Are we now going to "cancel" people because of what their ancestors did?  Hell, we don't even punish Democrats for what THEY do.
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Anthony on June 28, 2023, 02:55:11 PM
This whole cancel bullshit needs to be canceled.  Lol!
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Username on June 28, 2023, 03:17:26 PM
Go back far enough and all of us had ancestors who were slaves and/or slave holders.  Not necessarily in the USofA.
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Lucifer on June 28, 2023, 04:13:14 PM
Why are we not concerned with slaves in our current societies?   African nations have slaves, so do middle eastern countries.  China has slaves, as well as other Asian countries.  Same in South America. 

The US has none, and hasn’t had any since the mid 1800’s, but yet we seemed obsessed with ancient slavery by those who are trying to profit from it.

C’mon democrats!   Call the Chinese out!   Start massive protest at Chinese embassies!
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: nddons on June 28, 2023, 04:29:28 PM
Will Obama have to pay reparations to Michelle? 
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Username on June 29, 2023, 06:43:44 AM
Will Obama have to pay reparations to Michelle?
Of course.  To not do that would be transphobic.
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Username on June 29, 2023, 06:48:23 AM
Why are we not concerned with slaves in our current societies?   African nations have slaves, so do middle eastern countries.  China has slaves, as well as other Asian countries.  Same in South America. 

The US has none, and hasn’t had any since the mid 1800’s, but yet we seemed obsessed with ancient slavery by those who are trying to profit from it.

C’mon democrats!   Call the Chinese out!   Start massive protest at Chinese embassies!
THIS!!!  Why are we so concerned with past sins and not doing something about slavery TODAY?  History (real history) looks very favorably on Great Britain for ending slavery.  Why not make history and do something about slavery in Africa, China, Asia, and on and on.  It's endlessly frustrating that people are looking into the past to find something to be all riled up about but choosing to turn a blind eye to problems right next door.

Unlike "climate change" this is something that we can actually do something about to improve people's lives.  Unfortunately this does not profit the political class or the elites.
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Steingar on June 30, 2023, 04:55:01 AM
My ancestors were too busy being pogrommed about by your ancestors to own any slaves thank you.
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Lucifer on June 30, 2023, 05:39:12 AM
My ancestors were too busy being pogrommed about by your ancestors to won any slaves thank you.

  Are you drinking again this morning?   Or is this how disciples of Biden speak now?
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on June 30, 2023, 07:11:30 AM
My ancestors were too busy being pogrommed about by your ancestors to own any slaves thank you.

Jews never had slaves?
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Number7 on June 30, 2023, 07:17:28 AM
Jews never had slaves?


Seems to me that Abraham, the father of the Jewish nation owned over 1500 (or maybe 15000) those old sunday school lessons were a long time ago.

But mikey wouldn't want the historical facts to interfere with his hatred of the rest of us.
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Rush on June 30, 2023, 07:35:21 AM
All races have ancestors who owned slaves. In fact, all of us very likely had ancestors who were cannibals and hunted other hominids for food.
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Number7 on June 30, 2023, 07:54:42 AM
All races have ancestors who owned slaves. In fact, all of us very likely had ancestors who were cannibals and hunted other hominids for food.


and yet... Donal Trump's ancestors are the only ones of recent presidents that DID NOT OWN SLAVES.

obama, biden, both of the bush presidents, and clinton all had ancestor slave owners.

ANOTHER inconvenient fact mikey carefully ignores.
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Little Joe on June 30, 2023, 08:04:52 AM

and yet... Donal Trump's ancestors are the only ones of recent presidents that DID NOT OWN SLAVES.

obama, biden, both of the bush presidents, and clinton all had ancestor slave owners.

ANOTHER inconvenient fact mikey carefully ignores.
Donald Trump is the only living President who's ancestors did not own slaves "IN AMERICA".
His ancestors moved here after slavery was abolished.  I don't know if his ancestors owned slaves (or were slaves) where they came from.
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Rush on June 30, 2023, 12:11:23 PM
Donald Trump is the only living President who's ancestors did not own slaves "IN AMERICA".
His ancestors moved here after slavery was abolished.  I don't know if his ancestors owned slaves (or were slaves) where they came from.

Trump’s mother was Scottish and suffered under the clearances which persecuted Highlanders. She came to America at age 18 to escape the horrible conditions.

His father was born in the U.S. but his paternal grandparents were from a relatively poor region of Germany.  It seems his immediate ancestors were neither slaves nor slave owners.
Title: Re: Did your ancestors own slaves?
Post by: Number7 on June 30, 2023, 12:46:56 PM
The Trump haters can’t imagine world where everything isn’t his fault.