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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 14, 2024, 05:38:04 PM

Title: Haiti....
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 14, 2024, 05:38:04 PM
What's the over/under on this being a CIA led thing?
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Lucifer on March 14, 2024, 06:11:14 PM
What's the over/under on this being a CIA led thing?

Gee, where would anyone get that idea?
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Post by: Jim Logajan on March 14, 2024, 06:16:03 PM
What's the over/under on this being a CIA led thing?
Zilch.
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Lucifer on March 14, 2024, 06:20:35 PM
People have profited off of Haiti for years.  Most recently was the Clintons. 

Cause a rebellion, then go in with all sorts of “aid” money from the US.  Then the NGO’s go in and suck it up.   And the Haitians get zip. 

Wash, Rinse, Repeat. 
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Number7 on March 14, 2024, 07:03:53 PM
When GWB and the First Philanderer headed down there after the last huge earthquake, I had no idea they would run interference for the scum bags at the UN to steal over half the aide, rape and pillage their way thru the devastated communities.
That’s when I knew that GWB was no fucking good, whatsoever.
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Anthony on March 15, 2024, 06:41:59 AM
Zilch.

So you're saying it's not within the realm of possibility the U.S. is involved in a clandestine manner in any way? You KNOW this how?   ::)
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 15, 2024, 09:05:01 AM
So you're saying it's not within the realm of possibility the U.S. is involved in a clandestine manner in any way? You KNOW this how?   ::)
No money or power to gain from the chaos.
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Post by: Number7 on March 15, 2024, 09:17:17 AM
No money or power to gain from the chaos.

Except BILLIONS and BILLIONS in 'redirected' foreign aide...
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Post by: jb1842 on March 15, 2024, 09:44:34 AM
I was supposed to stop in Labadee, Haiti for a cruise stop in 2 weeks, but the cruise line stopped all port visits there the other day. Not a loss as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 15, 2024, 10:51:25 AM
Except BILLIONS and BILLIONS in 'redirected' foreign aide...
How does that redirected aide help the CIA? Why rule out Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, or China as suspects?
Anyway, the long bloody history of Haiti troubles predate the existence of the CIA.
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Number7 on March 15, 2024, 11:43:03 AM
How does that redirected aide help the CIA? Why rule out Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, or China as suspects?
Anyway, the long bloody history of Haiti troubles predate the existence of the CIA.

The cia doesn’t care about Haiti.
They and the corrupt un care about the money and the ones they can fuck, fuck over, and rape.
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Lucifer on March 15, 2024, 01:22:25 PM
The CIA has long been a political arm of the executive, and more recently aligns itself with a political party. 

The CIA (and NSA) do the bidding of their masters.  With billions of dollars for the taking, the masters have their agency put a plan into motion, create chaos which means more money to be sent in aid, then select NGO’s go in.  The NGO’s get the aid money, which is then laundered back to the US (and other entities), and Haiti remains the shithole awaiting the next conflict. 
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Number7 on March 15, 2024, 04:56:50 PM
When I the un goes in on a faux humanitarian mission, it amazes me how nothing ever improves. Nothings gets better, and no one benefits, which goes to the claim that the money is siphoned off and the un is a parasite, sucking blood off so hurting and dying people.

When it came out that multiple un officials were celebrating the hamas mass killing and only got fired after public outcry forced those motherfucking crooks to act tells you all you need to know.
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Lucifer on March 15, 2024, 08:09:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qYLNj6N.jpg)
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Lucifer on March 15, 2024, 08:31:25 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/billions-invested-haiti-since-2010-080041990.html

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The U.S. has committed hundreds of millions of dollars to renewed initiatives to help Haiti during its crime crisis in the country, but concerns remain about whether the country will properly utilize the money, according to an expert.

Haiti received around $13.5 billion in the years following a devastating 2010 earthquake, thanks to an international effort led by the U.S. and the United Nations, around 120% of the country’s GDP at the time.

"They never rebuilt Port-au-Prince. You’re talking about a city that doesn’t have a sanitation system, doesn’t have basic plumbing and electricity, no basic infrastructure … people can’t get anywhere, they’re walking up and down the dirt," said Jack Brewer, a former NFL player and philanthropist who has pursued initiatives to help rebuild Haiti.

Brewer told Fox News Digital that he felt the funding provided after the 2010 earthquake "wasn’t properly spent."

"I got a chance to watch a lot of the things that happened on the ground," Brewer said. "After the earthquake in 2010, I worked with the NFL Players Association, and we partnered with the Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund … it was called the Clinton Haiti Fund … and we raised a lot of money through that, and it started to be allocated."

"Then other countries came in and started to allocate a lot of money," he added. "You would think that the long-term goal was to rebuild the city of Port-au-Prince and the surrounding areas that were impacted by the earthquake, but I was there, and a few years went on, and we're still working."



The U.S. has committed to contribute the bulk of funds for a multinational security mission from East Africa to Haiti, led by Kenya and comprised of police from various countries. The Biden administration will pledge another $33 million in general humanitarian aid to the country, bringing the total committed for the effort to $333 million – as America's national debt tops $34.5 trillion.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Wednesday said the crisis "has been a long unfolding story" and will require the international community to help stabilize the country as gangs continue to run rampant.



"Having done all this work, we should be in a place where that mission goes forward," Blinken said. "It will, we believe, help reestablish security and take back control of the country from gangs."

Jimmy Cherizier, known by the nickname "Barbecue," runs a gang coalition called the G9 Family and Allies, rising to a level of influence that allows him to block sitting Haitian Prime Minister Ariel Henry from returning to the country until he agrees to resign.


Brewer said he feels that many Haitians "believe that America is one of the roots of the problem," going back to the Clintons and their rebuilding efforts following the earthquake.

"They think Washington, D.C., is controlling these leaders that are coming into the country, and, as you can see, most of the leaders are corrupt," Brewer claimed. "They’re in, and it’s kind of the culture in Haiti: As a politician, once you get there, you get that power so you can enrich yourself."
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Rush on March 16, 2024, 04:00:36 AM
What do you expect when you overrun an island and then import African slaves to the point they outnumber you 10 to 1, eventually revolt, secure independence but at an impossible cost (crippling debt to France), proceed to genocide all whites on that half of the island, and set up a mafia style government and a system of slavery in their turn that continues to this day.

No amount of money thrown at that shit show will fix it.  They have no system in place to organize infrastructure building projects which requires a stable hierarchy of leadership, technical talent and worker skills, and a armed authority with legitimate legal power to enforce a safe and secure environment to carry out these projects.  Not to mention an absence of corruption which Haiti has never seen in all its incarnations.

Fuck Haiti.  And fuck the Europeans that thought it was a good idea to transplant Africans into the new world to the point where they act like an invasive species destroying everything on their little chunk of land, after you “freed” them but made it impossible for them to function by demanding repayment in amounts exceeding any possible GDP that they could produce even if they could create a stable society with a European/New World style economy, which was too much to expect from a people ground down by slavery for three centuries in an environment that couldn’t be more foreign to that in which they evolved, and subject to regular natural disasters to boot.

Europeans took over the new world because they were technologically, politically and militarily advanced.  That’s just fact. Too bad they weren’t also morally advanced (still having slavery just like all humans ever.)  They had city-states and empires, and cooperative global trade, and now that’s the context in which you must live. Adapt to it and live in comfort, or try to maintain your old tribal strong man rule and see how far that gets you.

Yes, half a millennia ago your ancestors were ripped from their homeland and that wasn’t fair. But here you are. It’s the 21st century. If I were a Haitian man, I would find a way to get into the U.S., assimilate into the productive culture - that means get a job - and fully embrace becoming American in every sense of the word, including legal citizenship. That’s a pathway to, if not happiness, at least having a full belly of something that isn’t long pig.
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Lucifer on March 16, 2024, 05:03:41 AM
I've been to Haiti many times.  Haiti makes third world countries look modern and advanced.

  First thing you notice about Haiti is how barren the land is.  Why is this on a tropical island?  The Haitians cut down all the trees to make charcoal and didn't replant.

  Second thing you notice standing in Port-au-Prince looking north on the hill side is all of the mansions.  Cité Soleil is just west of Port-au-Prince, and is one of the largest slums in the western world.   Why the mansions?  Because the one percent of Haiti's population controls 95% of the wealth there.

  Corruption is a way of life there.  Billions upon billions are spent in Haiti in the form of "aid" but that money never makes it to the people. It's nothing more than a giant money laundering operation.

 

 
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Rush on March 16, 2024, 06:23:01 AM
I've been to Haiti many times.  Haiti makes third world countries look modern and advanced.

  First thing you notice about Haiti is how barren the land is.  Why is this on a tropical island?  The Haitians cut down all the trees to make charcoal and didn't replant.

  Second thing you notice standing in Port-au-Prince looking north on the hill side is all of the mansions.  Cité Soleil is just west of Port-au-Prince, and is one of the largest slums in the western world.   Why the mansions?  Because the one percent of Haiti's population controls 95% of the wealth there.

  Corruption is a way of life there.  Billions upon billions are spent in Haiti in the form of "aid" but that money never makes it to the people. It's nothing more than a giant money laundering operation.

 

 

And if my hypothetical Haitian man made it to the U.S. it wouldn’t be conceptually any different, as we are increasingly under the thumb of the same kind of thug-elite class in the process of solidifying control over the U.S. population and garnering all the wealth to themselves.  We just aren’t at the starvation point - yet.

What is staving that off for now is the federation of states and our massive economy, which they’re trying their best to destroy.  My Haitian immigrant might do well for a while, long enough to see his child to adulthood, only to end up either caught up in civil war, or starving like they did in all other leftist utopias forced onto a once great civilization by a psychopathic control freak monster like Stalin or Mao.

What the Bidens and the Democrats and their pathetic Republican bitches are doing is setting the stage for just such an individual to rise and, Putin-style, change election law to permanently seize power. The Democrats have already begun that process with all the mail in ballots, programmable vote machines, etc.

Even if it isn’t enough yet to keep Trump out of the White House this election cycle, the best Trump can do is be a slight road bump once again, slowing them down just a bit but enraging them all the more and stiffening their resolve to crush the once great USA and her people for the sake of their own enrichment and power, just like your 1% in Haiti.
Title: Re: Haiti....
Post by: Username on March 16, 2024, 06:45:15 AM
I could not have said it better myself.  Thanks!