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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: bflynn on December 31, 2018, 01:53:50 PM

Title: Stop killing black people or else
Post by: bflynn on December 31, 2018, 01:53:50 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/tiffany-haddish-vows-to-wear-fur-everyday-until-police-stop-killing-black-people

If they don't stop killing black people, Mrs Haddish is going to wear fur nonstop. 

Posted in the "Entertainment" section.
Title: Re: Stop killing black people or else
Post by: Lucifer on December 31, 2018, 03:12:06 PM
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Title: Re: Stop killing black people or else
Post by: Jim Logajan on December 31, 2018, 04:19:02 PM
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Fake news.
That graphic was shown to be bogus back in 2015.
For one, no one has ever located an entity called "Crime Statistics Bureau" in San Francisco.
Title: Re: Stop killing black people or else
Post by: Lucifer on December 31, 2018, 04:20:07 PM
Fake news.
That graphic was shown to be bogus back in 2015.
For one, no one has ever located an entity called "Crime Statistics Bureau" in San Francisco.

So what are the actual numbers?
Title: Re: Stop killing black people or else
Post by: Lucifer on December 31, 2018, 04:31:39 PM
Well let's see, we have this:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

And this:

https://www.colorlines.com/articles/2017-police-shooting-numbers

987 fatal police shootings
 
68 of the victims were unarmed; that’s down from 94 unarmed people in 2015, but up from 51 in 2016
 
223 Black people were shot and killed by police (23 percent of all fatal shootings, despite accounting for 13.3 percent of the population); that is 10 fewer than in 2016
 
179 Latinx people were shot and killed by police (18 percent; they make up 17.8 percent of the population); that is 19 more than in 2016
 
236 (24 percent) of the victims were experiencing mental distress at the time of their death
 
99 (10 percent) of the deaths were caught on body cameras

  So, it still looks like white people are getting killed more often by police than blacks.  Oh, and blacks murdering blacks has the highest numbers, but hey, we're not suppose to talk about that.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/08/10/african-american-homicide-rate-nearly-quadruple-national-average-11680

Title: Re: Stop killing black people or else
Post by: Jim Logajan on December 31, 2018, 05:05:33 PM
Well let's see, we have this:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

And this:

https://www.colorlines.com/articles/2017-police-shooting-numbers

987 fatal police shootings
 
68 of the victims were unarmed; that’s down from 94 unarmed people in 2015, but up from 51 in 2016
 
223 Black people were shot and killed by police (23 percent of all fatal shootings, despite accounting for 13.3 percent of the population); that is 10 fewer than in 2016
 
179 Latinx people were shot and killed by police (18 percent; they make up 17.8 percent of the population); that is 19 more than in 2016
 
236 (24 percent) of the victims were experiencing mental distress at the time of their death
 
99 (10 percent) of the deaths were caught on body cameras

  So, it still looks like white people are getting killed more often by police than blacks.  Oh, and blacks murdering blacks has the highest numbers, but hey, we're not suppose to talk about that.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/08/10/african-american-homicide-rate-nearly-quadruple-national-average-11680

Thanks for doing the research - those look like reasonable numbers.

The problem with the graphic you posted was the fact that its source was made up and no one could come up with the same numbers, so Trump got the usual abuse by the TDS crowd when he retweeted a while back. His critics managed to change the focus to him instead of the real numbers, thus overlooking the sad reality shown by those numbers.

(Oddly, I would not have known the graphic was bogus except I came across it just a couple days ago doing an image search looking for some other crime stat graph and clicked-through to see it was on an old blog that was debunking it. They showed what they believed the real numbers were using FBI stats - their stats were about what you found. If I hadn't seen it just two days ago I'd have assumed your graphic was legit.)
Title: Re: Stop killing black people or else
Post by: jb1842 on December 31, 2018, 06:47:11 PM
Dear "Celebrities",

Title: Re: Stop killing black people or else
Post by: Jim Logajan on December 31, 2018, 07:24:25 PM
Dear "Celebrities",

I had not previously heard of Tiffany Haddish.
Title: Re: Stop killing black people or else
Post by: jb1842 on December 31, 2018, 07:29:25 PM
I had not previously heard of Tiffany Haddish.

Me neither. Why I put celebrities in quotations.
Title: Re: Stop killing black people or else
Post by: bflynn on December 31, 2018, 09:44:39 PM
See, it was a very entertaining story.

I legitimately laughed when I read it.
Title: Re: Stop killing black people or else
Post by: Number7 on December 31, 2018, 10:45:24 PM
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