Post by: Little Joe on April 13, 2017, 01:39:38 PM
We dropped one on ISIS in Afghanistan.
Is this good or bad? (I say good).
And, peripherally, Trump says the Military has been given full authorization. In other words, the military commanders are free to make the decisions they feel necessary to win. I say hooray for that too.
We could be at a turning point. I just hope we turn the right direction.
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2017, 01:51:01 PM
In other words, the military commanders are free to make the decisions they feel necessary to win. I say hooray for that too.
I have been wanting to see this for more than a decade. Cut them loose. Nothing more satisfying than seeing good guys killing bad guys.
But I too am also hoping it will end up being the right thing. We've seen how our actions can go bad especially if not followed up properly. Whatever Trump does, it can be undone or worse by a subsequent President.
Post by: PaulS on April 13, 2017, 01:52:18 PM
I think this is a good thing, I have no sympathy for these ISIS fighters and feel they need to be squished like bugs.
Post by: Anthony on April 13, 2017, 01:59:21 PM
Post by: LevelWing on April 13, 2017, 05:04:36 PM
Post by: nddons on April 13, 2017, 05:38:32 PM
One thugs for certain...tunnels no longer provide the jihadist pukes any safe space.
Making Battles Great Again!
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on April 14, 2017, 10:18:34 AM
Post by: Number7 on April 14, 2017, 01:12:13 PM
Leftists only like to kill the unborn, sick, old and helpless.... oh... and anyone that dares to disagree with their sick concept of political correctness.
Post by: nddons on April 14, 2017, 01:41:38 PM
Unlike our enemies on the left, killing those who wish to slaughter Americans is a good endeavor. If ISIS wishes tokill mericans, killing as many as possible with as few explosions as possible is a good use of tax dollars.Clue Elizabeth Warren and the rest of the unhinged left to be outraged by Trump dropping the MOAB:
Leftists only like to kill the unborn, sick, old and helpless.... oh... and anyone that dares to disagree with their sick concept of political correctness.
http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/784419?section=Politics&keywords=elizabeth-warren-moab-afghanistan-donald-trump&year=2017&month=04&date=14&id=784419&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Main
Post by: Steingar on April 14, 2017, 02:16:39 PM
Given that its the Cheeto Jesus, that is a very hard call indeed. But dropping bombs is easy. Wining wars is quite a bit harder. How long have we been in Afghanistan? It has been called the Graveyard of Empires for good reason.
Post by: nddons on April 14, 2017, 03:10:32 PM
She has a point. The occasional missile strike or bomb drop is no substitute for a cogent military strategy. I am glad to see the Taliban and their ilk get theirs, and I am all for giving the military latitude, so long as they aren't butchering civilians. But what is he actually aiming at?So what you and Lizzy want are for us to announce our battle plans for the world to see so they can change their tactics. Perfect. Nothing like announcing a surge and simultaneously announcing your withdrawal date like Obama announced to the world.
Given that its the Cheeto Jesus, that is a very hard call indeed. But dropping bombs is easy. Wining wars is quite a bit harder. How long have we been in Afghanistan? It has been called the Graveyard of Empires for good reason.
I just googled Elizabeth Warren and strategy and got nothing prior to the past few weeks. Surely such a strategist was asking the same ducking questions of Obama over the last 8 years, wasn't she?
Come to think of it, I don't recall you demanding that Obama set forth his strategy either.
Post by: PaulS on April 14, 2017, 04:58:36 PM
Post by: Little Joe on April 15, 2017, 06:18:57 AM
I thought the initial death toll from the MOAB was a little low at 36. Today I read that the toll has been increased to 94 and may rise as more bodies are uncovered.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/afghan-official-massive-us-bomb-dead-toll-rise-055344229.html
Post by: PaulS on April 15, 2017, 01:24:09 PM
It looks like Allah is going to have to find 4,176 more virgins.
I thought the initial death toll from the MOAB was a little low at 36. Today I read that the toll has been increased to 94 and may rise as more bodies are uncovered.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/afghan-official-massive-us-bomb-dead-toll-rise-055344229.html
We'll probably never know if the thing vaporized them.
Post by: Number7 on April 16, 2017, 03:48:11 PM
Post by: nudnik on April 19, 2017, 09:57:56 PM
Steingar is smoking the whacky weed with his esteemed colleagues in the faculty lounge again... as usual.
How is wanting to know a strategy behind fighting a war now suddenly a weed-smokers issue?
Post by: Number7 on April 20, 2017, 11:33:13 AM
How is wanting to know a strategy behind fighting a war now suddenly a weed-smokers issue?
Because it's not a war you ass wipe. It was an exercise to get their fucking attention and only pathetic, talking points shouting nitwits think it was a war.
You SO need your talking points to think because you only have what you've been allowed to think and once that's exhausted you're stuck with noise and posturing.
Post by: asechrest on April 20, 2017, 12:29:00 PM
Post by: nudnik on April 20, 2017, 01:55:28 PM
Because it's not a war you ass wipe. It was an exercise to get their fucking attention and only pathetic, talking points shouting nitwits think it was a war.
You SO need your talking points to think because you only have what you've been allowed to think and once that's exhausted you're stuck with noise and posturing.
Yes, and Vietnam wasn't a war either, Korea wasn't a war either. I get it - we haven't declared war since WWII. Fine.
Ok, call it, I want a strategy behind: "Committing our soldiers to an action that can cause mass casualties".
Better?
Post by: Anthony on April 20, 2017, 02:14:08 PM
How is wanting to know a strategy behind fighting a war now suddenly a weed-smokers issue?
Did he want to know Obama's strategy for fighting wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and G*d knows where else? What was the purpose again? To get Americans killed? Now that Trump, a Republican, is President all of a sudden the media, and progressives want to count every missile, and every body. How many "drone" strikes did Obama approve. It is easy when some guy is sitting in the basement bunker of some mountain outside of Colorado Springs to kill a few camels, and suspected "terrorists". What did that accomplish?
Post by: nudnik on April 20, 2017, 05:13:33 PM
Did he want to know Obama's strategy for fighting wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and G*d knows where else? What was the purpose again? To get Americans killed? Now that Trump, a Republican, is President all of a sudden the media, and progressives want to count every missile, and every body. How many "drone" strikes did Obama approve. It is easy when some guy is sitting in the basement bunker of some mountain outside of Colorado Springs to kill a few camels, and suspected "terrorists". What did that accomplish?
I don't want to put words in his mouth, but if he was like most liberals, he would have probably be concerned about Obama overreaching his power with the drone strikes. Even if he agreed with the drone strikes itself, he didn't like the precedent that it sets for the next guy that he may not agree with.
Steiner?
Post by: LevelWing on April 20, 2017, 05:15:50 PM
I don't want to put words in his mouth, but if he was like most liberals, he would have probably be concerned about Obama overreaching his power with the drone strikes. Even if he agreed with the drone strikes itself, he didn't like the precedent that it sets for the next guy that he may not agree with.Over reaching his power? Like, "I have a pen and a phone"?
Steiner?
Post by: nudnik on April 20, 2017, 05:19:30 PM
Over reaching his power? Like, "I have a pen and a phone"?
Waging war on foreign soil without the approval of congress.
Post by: Little Joe on April 20, 2017, 05:55:42 PM
Waging war on foreign soil without the approval of congress.You must be mistaken. Obama had a Nobel Peace Prize. ::) ::)
Post by: nudnik on April 20, 2017, 06:58:33 PM
You must be mistaken. Obama had a Nobel Peace Prize. ::) ::)
I'll drink to that! (We need a martini glass emoji).
Post by: Little Joe on April 20, 2017, 07:02:25 PM
I'll drink to that! (We need a martini glass emoji).I make the meanest vodka martinis in Florida, but that is on Friday night. Other nights, it is Scotch. (The older you get, the more predictable you get).
So I'll raise a glass of Macallan to you! The old stuff.
Post by: Number7 on April 24, 2017, 05:33:03 AM
Yes, and Vietnam wasn't a war either, Korea wasn't a war either. I get it - we haven't declared war since WWII. Fine.
Ok, call it, I want a strategy behind: "Committing our soldiers to an action that can cause mass casualties".
Better?
Nope.
It's not better.
It is still babbling idiocy attempting to redefine what Donald Trump,did into a definition that you can use to attack him.
He sent a message. Period. The fact that you can't conceive of such abth No doesn't make him wrong. It just makes you myopic.