PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 07, 2018, 07:12:42 AM
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We can’t win 2020 without Florida and Texas.
Texas is filling up with Dems fleeing fouled-up California, and Florida is filling up with Dems fleeing the fouled-up east coast. Dems foul whatever state they land in. Florida also just voted to allow one million convicted felons to vote.
Minnesota elected a Somali woman to Congress who actually, yes, married her brother to become a citizen. And Minnesota elected Keith Ellison.
Looking ahead at more of same leftist moonbattery unseen by glazed-eyed sycophants, hundreds of millions of dollars (from who? to what end?) dumped into electing socialists controlled by globalists, and media deception continuing unabated, I have lost hope.
The fight is too hard, and I’m no snowflake. It isn’t possible for people pursuing their lives in a normal fashion to devote time and energy to political activism at the level needed to pull off power-grabbing ground games to get or stay in power.
I see the American dream as dead, maintainable only in red pockets for a time as we huddle together and watch America and American ideals go down in flames ... no, in a swirl of slowly sucking shit.
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Don't give up yet.
The Pelosi clown show is just beginning. Sit back and watch what fools they make of themselves over the next few months. Also, the "Blue Wave" was nothing more than a yellow trickle. Look at the whole picture, they didn't do as well as the MSM is trying to make it look.
They lost several high profile elections that should have been sure bets. They only picked up house seats due to the RINO's that packed their bags and fled Washington, not because people like their ideas or agenda.
Again, their platform did not give them the house, the republicans did through ineptitude. Thankfully those RINOs are history now. We now even have a larger number in the senate which makes the remaining senate RINO's a non issue.
All in all, looking at the big picture this morning, all is not bad.
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I get depressed too, but I agree with Lucifer on this. It is not as bad as it sounds.
First, the Rs strengthened their hold on the Senate by picking up seats and replacing McCain and a couple of others with Rs that don't hate Trump. This bodes well for a few more SCOTUS picks.
This also gives us at least two more years for the tax cuts and regulation reforms to kick in and really boost the economy. Nothing succeeds like results and I think our economy is in good shape leading up to 2020.
And if the Dems really do spend the next two years trying to pull the rug out from under Trump, I think that will backfire like the Kavanaugh witch hunt did.
Now that the Dems control the House, they will actually have to vote FOR something and not just AGAINST anything Trump.
So I am not tooo disheartened. Yet. But 2020 will be very telling for this country.
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We can’t win 2020 without Florida and Texas.
Texas is filling up with Dems fleeing fouled-up California, and Florida is filling up with Dems fleeing the fouled-up east coast. Dems foul whatever state they land in. Florida also just voted to allow one million convicted felons to vote.
Minnesota elected a Somali woman to Congress who actually, yes, married her brother to become a citizen. And Minnesota elected Keith Ellison.
Looking ahead at more of same leftist moonbattery unseen by glazed-eyed sycophants, hundreds of millions of dollars (from who? to what end?) dumped into electing socialists controlled by globalists, and media deception continuing unabated, I have lost hope.
The fight is too hard, and I’m no snowflake. It isn’t possible for people pursuing their lives in a normal fashion to devote time and energy to political activism at the level needed to pull off power-grabbing ground games to get or stay in power.
I see the American dream as dead, maintainable only in red pockets for a time as we huddle together and watch America and American ideals go down in flames ... no, in a swirl of slowly sucking shit.
The Democrats are the least of our problems as they are largely incompetent. However, we are fighting:
The Media
Entertainment/Hollywood
Social Media
Tech/Silicon Valley who control the flow, and content of information
Globalists like Soros, Bezos, and Bloomberg
Corporate America
Most of Government
EDUCATION which has successfully indoctrinated generations to socilamism
It is an uphill battle, but as long as I am around, I will fight them. It may be from a secluded, unkown location in Wyoming, but I will still resist.
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Since Trump is not a politician and I feel that he is learning from this midterm election experience and will apply that knowledge 2 years from now. Besides, I think he loves a good scrap!
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I hope you all are right, who say to keep going.
If President Trump can keep going, then I must, too.
Just watched this video and cried. Because I really do think the left will precision target precincts in key states in 2020, and flood people’s minds with lies that counteract all the noble ideals the rest of us strive for.
Here’s to keeping the flame alive.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QjQkd2g9bDQ#
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"Calm down, get a hold of yourself!"
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I hope you all are right, who say to keep going.
If President Trump can keep going, then I must, too.
Just watched this video and cried. Because I really do think the left will precision target precincts in key states in 2020, and flood people’s minds with lies that counteract all the noble ideals the rest of us strive for.
Here’s to keeping the flame alive.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QjQkd2g9bDQ#
They are going to do a lot of things that are underhanded, like bringing in as many illegal they can as well as other methods of voter fraud. However, we can still win in 2020 if we get the semi rural, and rural areas to vote their butts off!
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They are going to do a lot of things that are underhanded, like bringing in as many illegal they can as well as other methods of voter fraud. However, we can still win in 2020 if we get the semi rural, and rural areas to vote their butts off!
Right now protesters are outside Tucker Carlson's house banging on his door shouting threats.
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Dear God. I decided to look at a news site or two to see what was up with Tucker.
Couldn’t these creatures at least give us a day, just one day, of civil behavior?
Acosta even had his WH press pass revoked. Sessions resigning is the end of the world as we know it.
Dear God.
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RELAX. :)
It will be OK. They are just reinforcing how awful they are.
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End of the world?
Boy, be glad you weren't around for the 68 or 72 elections. That's why I wanted you to watch the Watergate bio.
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This is nothing like the violent inner city, ghetto riots of the late 60's. If it comes out to suburbia, or further, watch out. People won't put up with that crap, and are prepared for it. I will say no more.
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RELAX. :)
It will be OK. They are just reinforcing how awful they are.
Yesterday, after the results, I was a little bummed. But I'm good today, as no matter what happens this administration is damned entertaining. Far better than any "reality" show could ever hope to be.
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Yesterday, after the results, I was a little bummed. But I'm good today, as no matter what happens this administration is damned entertaining. Far better than any "reality" show could ever hope to be.
I was too. I listened to Rush and felt a bit pessimistic as he pointed out how Texas is going to turn blue but then I listened to Sean and he had a more optimistic take and then watched Sean on Fox last night and it was very optimistic. Relative to all other midterms this is actually a big win for Republicans. I feel a little better today.
I still think we are doomed in the long run because the educational system is lost and there's the MSM. If a wall actually gets built and we stop the flow of illegals and if blacks keep taking the red pill there's a chance we may thrive for a while longer. But the left will win eventually because they'll continue rotting from within just like they have been. Trump is an anomaly, we will never have another. Come 2024 it will be back to spineless Republican at best or another Communist in sheep's clothing. Trump should suspend elections and declare himself dictator. This business of allowing citizens to choose a leader is not working out because the majority of humans are incapable of thinking critically.
Trump should just take over and immediately fire every federal employee in all the alphabet agencies except the FBI and the IC and he should then direct those to prosecute Felonious Pantsuits and all her gang. The alphabet agencies are the true shackles on our freedom. They are malignant cancers. They are the insidious under the radar tools chipping away at every aspect of our lives. They literally grow and absorb more and more of the economy without producing anything at all like cancer cells grow and replace normal healthy cells in a body.
Trump cannot "Make America Great Again" without completely eradicating them. He's doing a great job rolling back regulations but the minute he is gone they'll just grow right back. He isn't leaving clean margins.
I am tired of watching the greatest nation that ever existed self destruct. I'm glad I'll be dead soon.
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Keith Ellison has been elected as AG in MN. Watch what happens there as Sharia begins to be implemented. It would appear that MN has been targeted as the first state to be taken over.
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I was too. I listened to Rush and felt a bit pessimistic as he pointed out how Texas is going to turn blue but then I listened to Sean and he had a more optimistic take and then watched Sean on Fox last night and it was very optimistic. Relative to all other midterms this is actually a big win for Republicans. I feel a little better today.
I still think we are doomed in the long run because the educational system is lost and there's the MSM. If a wall actually gets built and we stop the flow of illegals and if blacks keep taking the red pill there's a chance we may thrive for a while longer. But the left will win eventually because they'll continue rotting from within just like they have been. Trump is an anomaly, we will never have another. Come 2024 it will be back to spineless Republican at best or another Communist in sheep's clothing. Trump should suspend elections and declare himself dictator. This business of allowing citizens to choose a leader is not working out because the majority of humans are incapable of thinking critically.
Trump should just take over and immediately fire every federal employee in all the alphabet agencies except the FBI and the IC and he should then direct those to prosecute Felonious Pantsuits and all her gang. The alphabet agencies are the true shackles on our freedom. They are malignant cancers. They are the insidious under the radar tools chipping away at every aspect of our lives. They literally grow and absorb more and more of the economy without producing anything at all like cancer cells grow and replace normal healthy cells in a body.
Trump cannot "Make America Great Again" without completely eradicating them. He's doing a great job rolling back regulations but the minute he is gone they'll just grow right back. He isn't leaving clean margins.
I am tired of watching the greatest nation that ever existed self destruct. I'm glad I'll be dead soon.
Agreed, except I don’t think Trump can win in 2020. Florida and Texas will go blue, unless I’m missing something. The drastic actions you describe might save us, but of course they can’t happen.
:o And I hope by “soon” in your last sentence you mean a long time!
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Keith Ellison has been elected as AG in MN. Wtach what happens there as Sharia begins to be implemented. It would appear that MN has been targeted as the first state to be taken over.
I hadn’t thought of it that way, but yes.
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Keith Ellison has been elected as AG in MN. Wtach what happens there as Sharia begins to be implemented. It would appear that MN has been targeted as the first state to be taken over.
Minnesota is a weird state to me. It has been Far Left Democrat forever. I don't know why. Swedes?
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Agreed, except I don’t think Trump can win in 2020. Florida and Texas will go blue, unless I’m missing something. The drastic actions you describe might save us, but of course they can’t happen.
:o And I hope by “soon” in your last sentence you mean a long time!
I mean within 30 years which I consider soon. If I live to 92 God help me I don't want to live beyond that and only to that if I can still walk around and feed myself and wipe my own butt. If I can't do that I want OUT. This is why I support assisted suicide, it's one of the things I side with the liberals on. We put dogs out of their misery, it's unconscionable we don't extend that courtesy to humans. I don't believe God condemns someone for ending their life early if they are suffering. I don't think God is such a sadist.
I fear you are right about Texas and Florida, they are barely hanging on and even if we stop illegals and blacks flip there's still the movement of IDIOTS from blue areas they ruined who still keep voting blue. Inability to detect cause and effect. The average human has an IQ barely above that of the chimpanzee.
I don't think you're missing anything. We will need to have a whole lot of urban blue voters #walkaway to be saved and I don't think it's going to happen. People living in cities are way too far removed from actual survival to understand the basic laws of nature. They are generations deep into believing food is spontaneously generated at the grocery store.
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If I learned something from the 2016 and was reinforced in 2018, I am on board with the Dems in limiting campaign spending. In all close races where Dems won and flipped a Rep seat, the Dems outspent the Rep candidates. In some cases by wide margins. In TX specifically, the senate race was one of the most brutal and costly in history. The Dems(despite saying they weren't taking outside money, but actually did) outspent the incumbent Rep by almost 2:1 in a losing bid.
Total Raised and Spent
Candidate Raised Spent Cash on Hand Last Report
Beto O'Rourke (D) $69,099,803 $59,162,289 $10,336,214 10/17/2018
Ted Cruz (R) • I $40,118,702 $33,896,025 $6,702,090 10/17/2018
Another issue I have is why are people outside the state in question funding candidates for a state office?
Top Recipients of Out-of-State Contributions
Candidate Total out-of-state % of money out-of-state
O'Rourke, Beto (D) $20,650,158 45.1%
Cruz, Ted (R) $8,128,400 40.7%
I guess I really don't care how much as a total is spent, but I can't in good conscience see such lopsided spending on campaign for public office. I discovered this after the Dems railed so loudly on limiting campaign spending after the court case which found no reason to limit campaign spending as it was a restriction on 1st A. If that is the case, then how about limits on public spending be equal? People and companies outside the state have put almost $43 million in campaign spending to affect the results of an election. The vast majority was for Dem candidates. Does this seem right? I mean, I'm all for 1st amendment and all, but buying political office is something that even the Romans frowned upon.
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Agreed, except I don’t think Trump can win in 2020. Florida and Texas will go blue, unless I’m missing something.
I hope that the part you are missing is that we have 2 more years for the Trump tax cuts and the reduction of stifling regulations to take effect. We have seen a good start, but it takes time for a deficit of this size to turn around. As more people get jobs and pay taxes, there will be fewer and fewer people claiming "government benefits" so that is a "two-fer". Also, manufacturing is rebounding which not only adds to the jobs here, but reduces imports from overseas. Another two-fer.
Then there is Trump's "THREAT" of tariffs. Yes, tariffs are in general, a bad thing for everyone. But even if those tariffs do actually go into effect temporarily, the point of these tariffs is not to raise tariff revenue. It is to convince our trading "partners" that they need to treat us fairly because if they keep screwing us, we will screw them back. If the threat of tariffs, or even the actual imposition of tariffs accomplishes the long term effect of more fair trade for the US, then we win again.
But all this will take time. I hope two more years is enough. And if it is, Trump has a good chance in 2020 because most people will vote their own wallet, or at least vote for what they see. If they see more family members getting jobs and they see more money in their pocket, they will vote for the status quo.
That's how I see it.
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The 17th amendment really fucked up the concept of the senate. It was never intended to elect senators from a popular vote with no term limits.
A senator was sent to DC to represent the state, and that senator would be selected by the state legislature. This way, the senator was working on behalf of the legislature and the governor representing the state.
Now we have popular elections and 6 year terms. Often we see senators who are getting massive campaign funds from out of state interest, many of those interest have nothing to do with the state or it's concerns.
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The 17th amendment really fucked up the concept of the senate. It was never intended to elect senators from a popular vote with no term limits.
A senator was sent to DC to represent the state, and that senator would be selected by the state legislature. This way, the senator was working on behalf of the legislature and the governor representing the state.
Now we have popular elections and 6 year terms. Often we see senators who are getting massive campaign funds from out of state interest, many of those interest have nothing to do with the state or it's concerns.
It has always bothered me when outside money is used to fund a candidate in another state. I think that should be illegal.
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It has always bothered me when outside money is used to fund a candidate in another state. I think that should be illegal.
Without the 17th amendment, there would be no need to have outside money pouring in since there would be no election to fund. There also wouldn't be a need to have senators crossing state lines and involving themselves in matters that don't concern the state they represent.
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The 17th amendment really fucked up the concept of the senate. It was never intended to elect senators from a popular vote with no term limits.
A senator was sent to DC to represent the state, and that senator would be selected by the state legislature. This way, the senator was working on behalf of the legislature and the governor representing the state.
Now we have popular elections and 6 year terms. Often we see senators who are getting massive campaign funds from out of state interest, many of those interest have nothing to do with the state or it's concerns.
THIS. Another of the major mistakes that will lead to the end of this country.
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I hope that the part you are missing is that we have 2 more years for the Trump tax cuts and the reduction of stifling regulations to take effect. We have seen a good start, but it takes time for a deficit of this size to turn around. As more people get jobs and pay taxes, there will be fewer and fewer people claiming "government benefits" so that is a "two-fer". Also, manufacturing is rebounding which not only adds to the jobs here, but reduces imports from overseas. Another two-fer.
Then there is Trump's "THREAT" of tariffs. Yes, tariffs are in general, a bad thing for everyone. But even if those tariffs do actually go into effect temporarily, the point of these tariffs is not to raise tariff revenue. It is to convince our trading "partners" that they need to treat us fairly because if they keep screwing us, we will screw them back. If the threat of tariffs, or even the actual imposition of tariffs accomplishes the long term effect of more fair trade for the US, then we win again.
But all this will take time. I hope two more years is enough. And if it is, Trump has a good chance in 2020 because most people will vote their own wallet, or at least vote for what they see. If they see more family members getting jobs and they see more money in their pocket, they will vote for the status quo.
That's how I see it.
Sorry, but the leftists have figured out the precise precincts in precise states to target with imported voters, fraud, and heavy messaging. They tested it out on Tuesday and now have even more data for the 2020 election. There are more of them than us now, and there’ll be even more of them than us in two years, they’ll see to that.
Plus, we discourage more easily than they do because our ideology is thoughtful, reasonable, kind, and long sighted, while their ideology is emotion-driven, irrational, merciless to those who disagree, and focused only on grabbing power now.
All this is just my opinion, but it reflects what I’ve observed.
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Sorry, but the leftists have figured out the precise precincts in precise states to target with imported voters, fraud, and heavy messaging. They tested it out on Tuesday and now have even more data for the 2020 election. There are more of them than us now, and there’ll be even more of them than us in two years, they’ll see to that.
Plus, we discourage more easily than they do because our ideology is thoughtful, reasonable, kind, and long sighted, while their ideology is emotion-driven, irrational, merciless to those who disagree, and focused only on grabbing power now.
All this is just my opinion, but it reflects what I’ve observed.
You may be right. (I may be crazy).
And I know that hope is not a strategy. I just hope that Trump's strategy works. I think it can.
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Sorry, but the leftists have figured out the precise precincts in precise states to target with imported voters, fraud, and heavy messaging. They tested it out on Tuesday and now have even more data for the 2020 election. There are more of them than us now, and there’ll be even more of them than us in two years, they’ll see to that.
Plus, we discourage more easily than they do because our ideology is thoughtful, reasonable, kind, and long sighted, while their ideology is emotion-driven, irrational, merciless to those who disagree, and focused only on grabbing power now.
All this is just my opinion, but it reflects what I’ve observed.
All they really need to do is get rid of the electoral college. I'll be very surprised if there isn't a big push to do that real soon.
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All they really need to do is get rid of the electoral college. I'll be very surprised if there isn't a big push to do that real soon.
OMG Rush just said that. He mocked a kid going, "It's not fair!" when people are going to say Dems won the popular vote but Rep won the election. That is exactly what my niece said. She whined it wasn't fair, that her vote doesn't "count" as much as someone in a red state with an electoral vote advantage.
At least I think she went third party and didn't vote for Hitlary.
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It has always bothered me when outside money is used to fund a candidate in another state. I think that should be illegal.
Just what we need - more laws! Good luck trying to make it illegal without further invasions of privacy into our fiscal affairs.
They’ll make it illegal to post political opinions to forums like this one without prior permission from the various states.
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All they really need to do is get rid of the electoral college. I'll be very surprised if there isn't a big push to do that real soon.
Ain't happening. It would take an amendment and the votes simply aren't there.
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Ain't happening. It would take an amendment and the votes simply aren't there.
I hope you're right.
Hate to continue just forwarding what Rush is saying, but a caller just told him that his 13 year old daughter was told by her teacher that Trump lies. The class was made to listen to CNN and something called smartvote and then "voted" and they all went Democrat.
If I had young kids now, I would definitely homeschool them. We are completely lost if all our children are being "educated" like this. Every year another crop ages into voting age. Sooner or later we WILL have the votes to can the EC and then stick a fork in the U.S.A.
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Ain't happening. It would take an amendment and the votes simply aren't there.
The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact is an attempt to bypass the need for such an amendment:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact)
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The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact is an attempt to bypass the need for such an amendment:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact)
I don't see this surviving a SC decision, and it would be challenged.
It's a liberal wet dream.
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I don't see this surviving a SC decision, and it would be challenged.
It's a liberal wet dream.
I agree but can you imagine the disruption from Election Day (or the Electoral College vote day) to January 20th if the following year? It would make Bush v Gore look like a checkers game.
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The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact is an attempt to bypass the need for such an amendment:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact)
Mobs gotta rule.
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Radical liberal terrorists.