PILOT SPIN

Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Anthony on October 13, 2016, 05:11:13 AM

Title: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: Anthony on October 13, 2016, 05:11:13 AM
Most likely Hillary will be our next President.  I am making plans for just such an emergency (Foghorn Leghorn voice).  What fallout will there be when Hillary is President and starts to implement her Marxist agenda such as:

Man Made Global Climate Change Tax/Fees/energy restrictions
Appointment of far left, radical Supreme Court justice to replace Scalia and others
Anti 2A Executive Orders, then court case against legally owned firearms, and legal firearm owners
Eventual banning of legal firearms
Legal firearm confiscation
Higher taxes in general
Spending on more dubious social engineering programs to right past perceived wrongs
More restrictions on police effectiveness

Will citizens protest?  Will we see pockets of resistance?  Will people just roll over and take it? 
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: Joe-KansasCity on October 13, 2016, 05:36:52 AM
I think we are seeing the beginning of the end no matter the outcome of this election.  However, the process will be accelerated by a Doormat administration.  The America we have known is ceasing to exist.  The civil unrest and armed conflict against law enforcement is increasing, and in my opinion, will erupt into something far more serious.  The Obama's fundemental transformation funded by George Soros continues to march on...
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: DJTorrente on October 13, 2016, 05:44:22 AM
Will citizens protest?  Will we see pockets of resistance?  Will people just roll over and take it?

We are going to continue (to the extent we are not already there) our path towards European-style social democratic welfare state.  A stratified populace (so much for the war on "income inequality" -- strictly for the rubes' consumption) with a wealthy hereditary elite (Here comes Chelsea!; The Cuomos of New York; and yes even the Bushes); a growing, laboring underclass swelled by open borders; permanent 20-25% unemployment; growing business and wealth concentration in large and in many ways captive conglomerate corporations with Byzantine regulatory state guarding them from mobile upstarts.

As for public reaction, I predict Irish Democracy (see, second para.) (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428218/limits-irish-democracy-kevin-d-williamson).
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: Anthony on October 13, 2016, 05:50:11 AM
As for public reaction, I predict Irish Democracy (see, second para.) (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428218/limits-irish-democracy-kevin-d-williamson).

That was a good read.  I like the analogy to Prohibition.  My Grandfather was a cop during prohibition.  He just looked the other way, and never did anything.  EVERYONE made booze, or bought/sold booze.  You can't arrest everyone. 
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: Mr Pou on October 13, 2016, 05:55:58 AM
Anthony, I also see a federal grab of 401K funds, there's just too much money out there. Of course it will be packaged as fairness, because the "rich" people who saved for retirement should have to share with those who didn't.

And without guns, grabs like this can/will happen. What's to stop them? Voting them out? Hahahaha, this election cycle has shown how fruitless that is.
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 13, 2016, 06:55:49 AM
Didn't Bill want to do a one time 10% tax on all 401(k) holdings?
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 13, 2016, 06:58:26 AM
Government hates to see money sitting there that they could be spending, evidence the SS Trust Fund full of IOUs.  Appears to be $4.4T in 401(k) funds available.
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: Anthony on October 13, 2016, 07:06:18 AM
I don't think even Hillary is stupid enough to do such a visible confiscation of wealth with 401K's.  I see more subtle increase in existing tax rates, and hidden energy "fees" to go towards the phony "reduction of carbon".
She is also talking about higher taxes on guns and ammo.  Like 25% to start.  We may have to pay an annual tax to own guns, based on their value, like a personal property tax.  Also, California like back ground checks and onerous taxes on ammunition. 

I have heard people talking about Hillary's health and her dying in office.  Her running mate, Tim Kaine is as bad or worse.  He is a Marxist from way back. 
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: jb1842 on October 13, 2016, 07:28:10 AM
I don't think even Hillary is stupid enough to do such a visible confiscation of wealth with 401K's.  I see more subtle increase in existing tax rates, and hidden energy "fees" to go towards the phony "reduction of carbon".
She is also talking about higher taxes on guns and ammo.  Like 25% to start.  We may have to pay an annual tax to own guns, based on their value, like a personal property tax.  Also, California like back ground checks and onerous taxes on ammunition.

I have heard people talking about Hillary's health and her dying in office.  Her running mate, Tim Kaine is as bad or worse.  He is a Marxist from way back.

I can see her putting a large tax on ammo and the sale and manfacture of gunpowder. Make it so people can't afford to shoot what firearms they have.
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: Anthony on October 13, 2016, 07:41:10 AM
I can see her putting a large tax on ammo and the sale and manfacture of gunpowder. Make it so people can't afford to shoot what firearms they have.

And that would be just a start.  I have stocked up on reloading components the past few years, but you can't shoot firearms without ammunition, and she and her gun/ammo grabbers know that. 
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: bflynn on October 13, 2016, 08:10:08 AM
Keep in mind that there is a significant chance that despite having a a Hillary president, there will still be a Republican Congress.  I know that some scoff at the idea that they will hold the line against Hillary, but a lot of these things they will not allow.

Executive order is another issue.  I just hope Democrats are ready for what the next Republican president does with executive orders now that they have raised the bar on how they can be used.

Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 13, 2016, 08:25:05 AM
I don't think even Hillary is stupid enough to do such a visible confiscation of wealth with 401K's.  I see more subtle increase in existing tax rates, and hidden energy "fees" to go towards the phony "reduction of carbon".
She is also talking about higher taxes on guns and ammo.  Like 25% to start.  We may have to pay an annual tax to own guns, based on their value, like a personal property tax.  Also, California like back ground checks and onerous taxes on ammunition. 

I have heard people talking about Hillary's health and her dying in office.  Her running mate, Tim Kaine is as bad or worse.  He is a Marxist from way back.

Clues to the corrupt doormat's intentions could be found in her finances.  If she avoids things like 401K or 403 or whatever, then be very afraid... especially if she divests herself of them.

Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: Anthony on October 13, 2016, 08:28:46 AM
Keep in mind that there is a significant chance that despite having a a Hillary president, there will still be a Republican Congress.  I know that some scoff at the idea that they will hold the line against Hillary, but a lot of these things they will not allow.

Executive order is another issue.  I just hope Democrats are ready for what the next Republican president does with executive orders now that they have raised the bar on how they can be used.

If she doesn't have Congress she will use EO, AND THE COURTS.  She has to replace Scalia.  She will appoint another Ginsberg.  Far left, radical, and anti American.  Court cases will now be decided 5-4 in the Progressive favor, and very damaging.  Watch.  Heller will be overturned, and gun ownership will be for the government only.  Hillary respects the 2A as a GOVERNMENT right only. 
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 13, 2016, 08:36:18 AM
If she doesn't have Congress she will use EO, AND THE COURTS.  She has to replace Scalia.  She will appoint another Ginsberg.  Far left, radical, and anti American.  Court cases will now be decided 5-4 in the Progressive favor, and very damaging.  Watch.  Heller will be overturned, and gun ownership will be for the government only.  Hillary respects the 2A as a GOVERNMENT right only.

Don't forget who has perviously talked about the Government being people.

Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 13, 2016, 08:43:14 AM
Last night my husband said, "We could move to another country."

This is shocking, and in no way is it who we are.

My husband is loving, patriotic, of solid values, and extremely intelligent. When he begins to doubt America's ability to withstand the leftist hive mind, I begin to be truly concerned.
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: nddons on October 13, 2016, 08:50:50 AM
Last night my husband said, "We could move to another country."

This is shocking, and in no way is it who we are.

My husband is loving, patriotic, of solid values, and extremely intelligent. When he begins to doubt America's ability to withstand the leftist hive mind, I begin to be truly concerned.
Where will you go?  America is freedom's last great hope.
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: Anthony on October 13, 2016, 08:55:23 AM
Where will you go?  America is freedom's last great hope.

There is no place else to go.  The leftists have them all, and now they have taken over here.  Canada, Australia, the UK, are all much worse, but we are catching up.  Czech Republic may be the free-est from a gun perspective, but they are still more restrictive than here.  Switzerland?  Good luck unless you are Swiss and part of the militia.

What is it in the human mindset that wants to be controlled, and used?
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 13, 2016, 02:29:43 PM
Where will you go?  America is freedom's last great hope.
I'm sure we'll stay and fight back.  But the fact he mentioned leaving was startling.
Title: Re: Fallout from a Hillary win
Post by: Anthony on October 13, 2016, 02:59:27 PM
I'm sure we'll stay and fight back.  But the fact he mentioned leaving was startling.

You're on another list now Becky.  NSA you know.  :)