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Title: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: acrogimp on August 29, 2018, 07:29:18 PM
So I don't know if this is from himself prior to his passing or from his family, but in addition to refusing to have Trump at his funeral, his running mate in 2008 Gov. Palin has been told in no uncertain terms to stay away.

Petty self-serving BS, whether it was McCain himself or his family it speaks to his nature as a small and petty man.

Just when I thought I couldn't hold a lower opinion of him, they kick Palin to the curb - she's the only thing on that ticket I was voting FOR, the rest was AGAINST Obama - and this is how they treat her.

Pathetic, if only he would have left office and allowed the current Republican Governor Ducey to appoint someone who could build a record but instead he just held on.

'Gimp
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: invflatspin on August 29, 2018, 07:30:42 PM
Yup, Palin is a class act, and McCain shows his petty, vain, and cult of personality shortcomings. No surprise. Palin still refuses to dis him in public.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Rush on August 30, 2018, 06:31:26 AM
Agree she is a class act. I would love to have her as the first female president. There are so many blacks I would have loved to have as the first black president I can't list them all but look what we got. On election night when there was a chance Hillary was going to win I was almost sick to my stomach.

I can't believe some people voted for her just to have the first female president. Doesn't it matter more the character than the gender?
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on August 30, 2018, 06:58:39 AM
The McCain spectacle now underway is amusing, if not sickening at the same time.

Remember, it was John McCain who picked Palin as his running mate, with the approval of his inner circle.   Then after McCain blows the election he and his inner circle place the blame on Palin, instead of McCain's abysmal campaign.  Once again McCain demonstrates he can't be held for his own faults.

 And the MSM.  Remember back to the 2008 election when the MSM savaged McCain for daring to run against the messiah.  These MSM types drug McCain through the mud and tarred and feathered him.  Now we have the same MSM, and in many cases the same shit spewing talking heads gushing over John McCain as if he were a saint, and attacking anyone who dares say anything different.

Why?  Well that's obvious, because McCain hated the President.  And in McCain's final days he added even more hatred of the President because?  Because he knew the MSM would double down on it and elevate McCain even higher during his week long funeral tour.  Manipulation at it's best.

 And who did John McCain pick for his eulogy?  Why none other than Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Hussein Obama), the same guy who belittled and smeared John McCain in 2008 and after.

 John is going out with a funeral typically reserved for heads of state, which is exactly what he wanted.  And he's using the event as his final jab at those he disliked, which is typical McCain.  No dignity in the end.

Adios John.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: acrogimp on August 30, 2018, 07:11:02 AM
I pulled my daughter out of school one day when McCain and Palin campaigned in Albuquerque - it was very clear who the rock star was that day, and it was not a member of the Keating 5.

I remember thinking after the end of her acceptance speech at the convention that I had just seen the woman who would be the first female President of the United States - but then the media just savaged her, and in the end McCain tossed her aside and then ran her over with the bus - the so-called conservative intelligentsia at that time also truly revealed their stripes for the first time too.

America was founded in large part on a rejection of the concept of a permanent political class - McCain is the worst kind of snake who has half the people conned that he is one thing, when in reality he is something far, far worse.

Good bye and good riddance.

'Gimp
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 30, 2018, 07:31:36 AM
Three memorial services, plus lying in state in the Capitol rotunda. And using features of the services to make political statements. This is what happens when a giant ego gets advance notice of his demise. Maybe he was anti-Trump because he saw another giant ego there to compete with.

Without McCain orchestrating his own funerals, what would a memorial to him have looked like? Pretty much friends and family, I’d guess.

Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: nddons on August 30, 2018, 08:12:18 AM
Agree she is a class act. I would love to have her as the first female president. There are so many blacks I would have loved to have as the first black president I can't list them all but look what we got. On election night when there was a chance Hillary was going to win I was almost sick to my stomach.

I can't believe some people voted for her just to have the first female president. Doesn't it matter more the character than the gender?
Not to the pussy hat wearing crowd. The only two things that matter are lady bits and a “D” on your jersey. Literally nothing else matters.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: nddons on August 30, 2018, 08:12:21 AM
Agree she is a class act. I would love to have her as the first female president. There are so many blacks I would have loved to have as the first black president I can't list them all but look what we got. On election night when there was a chance Hillary was going to win I was almost sick to my stomach.

I can't believe some people voted for her just to have the first female president. Doesn't it matter more the character than the gender?
Not to the pussy hat wearing crowd. The only two things that matter are lady bits and a “D” on your jersey. Literally nothing else matters.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: invflatspin on August 30, 2018, 08:34:32 AM
No question both DJT and McCain are ego driven, and both are narcissists. Heck, everyone of power gets some personality defects along the way. The important differences are that DJT has come through his challenges with success, even after some serious setbacks, he's still come back with great successes in business, and now politics. McCain on the other hand parlayed his failings along with a wealthy wife to extend his reach far, far beyond his actual capabilities. He didn't write one word of the McCain Feingold act. Waffled each of his 30 years in office, and constantly played one end against the middle as long as it would advance his own cause, at the cost of the electorate.

McCain was first and foremost about McCain. He would have been a Carter kind of president, coming from the distaff side of govt. I know he got the DFC for his actions in Vietnam, but my guess is that had more to do with garlanding his father's son rather than actual distinguished flight capability. How he stayed in the senate for so long says volumes about the need for some kind of limits on senators. I would say 18 years and out is my thinking. Just like FDR brought in prez term limits.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Anthony on August 30, 2018, 10:08:33 AM
The media connects Palin with the Tea Party who they successfully demonized although they never used violence, and intimidation like Antifa, and BLM.  Their rallies were always well behaved, but the media portrayed them as close to Nazis.  So, they portray Palin as a stupid, ultra right wing zealot, and think what that bitch on SNL said was true.   
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Steingar on August 30, 2018, 12:59:07 PM
Palin, class act.  I swear if I didn't know who was writing this I'd swear it was satire.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Number7 on August 30, 2018, 01:00:41 PM
Palin, class act.  I swear if I didn't know who was writing this I'd swear it was satire.

Fuck off, you stupid sack if shit.

I mean that in the most literal sense,possible.

Oh, and I used only one two syllable word so you could mostly understand the sentence.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on August 30, 2018, 01:11:21 PM
Palin, class act.  I swear if I didn't know who was writing this I'd swear it was satire.

 Says the man who's party includes Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Elizabeth Warren and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Number7 on August 30, 2018, 01:18:36 PM
Says the man who's party includes Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Elizabeth Warren and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

...and who thinks Sarah Palin said that she could see Alaska from her house...
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Mase on August 30, 2018, 01:34:55 PM
Russia.  She could see Russia.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 30, 2018, 02:29:35 PM
Russia.  She could see Russia.

"You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska." - Sarah Palin
"And I can see Russia from my house." - Tina Fey portraying Sarah Palin on Saturday Night Live
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Little Joe on August 30, 2018, 03:32:21 PM
"You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska." - Sarah Palin
"And I can see Russia from my house." - Tina Fey portraying Sarah Palin on Saturday Night Live
Just a little more context:
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During that appearance, interviewer Charles Gibson asked her what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: “They’re our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska”:
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the gravet
Post by: Number7 on August 30, 2018, 05:01:35 PM
Russia.  She could see Russia.

My brain thought Russia.
My fingers typed Alaska.
You are so right and I was so wrong...
Thanks.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Anthony on August 31, 2018, 04:49:16 AM
I despise Saturday Night Live, and Tina Fey.  She grew up close to where I did, but I wish she didn't.  If they made both parties look silly that would be fine, but they almost always go after Republicans.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Steingar on August 31, 2018, 10:31:07 AM
I despise Saturday Night Live, and Tina Fey.  She grew up close to where I did, but I wish she didn't.  If they made both parties look silly that would be fine, but they almost always go after Republicans.

Palin is easy, and Trump even easier.  This is the time for TV comedians, lots of low hanging fruit.  While I won't deny the left leaning tendencies of most media outlets, I recall SNL poking lots of fun at the Obaminator.  And everyone covered the Bill Clinton/Lewinski scandal.

Obama really didn't have any bad scandals, and very few of his underlings wound up indicted.  I know, according to you guys everything he did was a scandal, but I'm thinking of the sort of thing that draws special prosecutors, like Iran Contra, for instance.  Keep in mind, most of Obama's term was spend with a GOP Congress, so had there been any real irregularity the Congress would've been all over it.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Number7 on August 31, 2018, 12:09:03 PM
Michael you live in a delusion filled filled world where the bullshit babbled in the faculty lounge is considered reality.

You couldn't be any more of a fool if you wore a Maxine Waters, pussy hat, and sang the communist fight song while standing on your head in the student union during an episode of Real Housewives of Peking.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on August 31, 2018, 12:31:26 PM


Obama really didn't have any bad scandals, and very few of his underlings wound up indicted.  I know, according to you guys everything he did was a scandal, but I'm thinking of the sort of thing that draws special prosecutors, like Iran Contra, for instance.  Keep in mind, most of Obama's term was spend with a GOP Congress, so had there been any real irregularity the Congress would've been all over it.

 Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Hussein Obama) had a host of scandals.  Shall I list them all out for you again?  However, since he weaponized the DoJ/FBI and had his AG's running interference for him, of course no special prosecutors were named and nothing was investigated.

 BHO (or BS, depending on what he was using his alias for) ran the most clandestine administrations in modern history.  As the current DoJ/FBI scandals unfold we will learn more of the corruption of BHO and his administration.  History will not be kind to Barry.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Steingar on August 31, 2018, 12:44:15 PM
Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Hussein Obama) had a host of scandals.  Shall I list them all out for you again?  However, since he weaponized the DoJ/FBI and had his AG's running interference for him, of course no special prosecutors were named and nothing was investigated.

The GOP Congress held hearing after hearing about all of the Obaminator's misdeed.  They wound up being little more than political grandstanding.  They only had 6 years to nail him with something and they couldn't do it.

BHO (or BS, depending on what he was using his alias for) ran the most clandestine administrations in modern history.  As the current DoJ/FBI scandals unfold we will learn more of the corruption of BHO and his administration.  History will not be kind to Barry.

Again, everything he did was to you corrupt or otherwise malodorous.  What I'm talking about is honest to Odin illegal, and like I said Obama had fewer scandals and fewer of his people indicted than just about anyone in recent history.  What you call scandals I call stuff that happens while you're president.  For example, I wouldn't call the Mango Mussilini's handling of the destruction wrought by hurricane Maria a scandal.  Inept perhaps, but not illegal and not scandalous.  And do keep in mind that Trump has had more of his associates indicted in a year than Obama had in eight.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on August 31, 2018, 01:02:53 PM
The GOP Congress held hearing after hearing about all of the Obaminator's misdeed.  They wound up being little more than political grandstanding.  They only had 6 years to nail him with something and they couldn't do it.

Again, everything he did was to you corrupt or otherwise malodorous.  What I'm talking about is honest to Odin illegal, and like I said Obama had fewer scandals and fewer of his people indicted than just about anyone in recent history.  What you call scandals I call stuff that happens while you're president.  For example, I wouldn't call the Mango Mussilini's handling of the destruction wrought by hurricane Maria a scandal.  Inept perhaps, but not illegal and not scandalous.  And do keep in mind that Trump has had more of his associates indicted in a year than Obama had in eight.

 You're delusional. Again you totally ignore that it was Bathhouse Barry's administration weaponizing of the DoJ/FBI that kept his ass out of trouble.

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• State Department email. In an effort to evade federal open-records laws, Mr. Obama’s first secretary of state set up a private server, which she used exclusively to conduct official business, including communications with the president and the transmission of classified material. A federal criminal investigation produced no charges, but FBI Director James Comey reported that the secretary and her colleagues “were extremely careless” in handling national secrets.

• Operation Fast and Furious. The Obama Justice Department lost track of thousands of guns it had allowed to pass into the hands of suspected smugglers, in the hope of tracing them to Mexican drug cartels. One of the guns was used in the fatal 2010 shooting of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry. Congress held then-Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt when he refused to turn over documents about the operation.

• IRS abuses. Mr. Obama’s Internal Revenue Service did something Richard Nixon only dreamed of doing: It successfully targeted political opponents. The Justice Department then refused to enforce Congress’s contempt citation against the IRS’s Lois Lerner, who refused to answer questions about her agency’s misconduct.

• Benghazi. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others were killed in the attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Libya. With less than two months to go before the 2012 election, the State Department falsely claimed the attack was not a terrorist attack but a reaction to an anti-Muslim film. Emails from the secretary later showed that she knew the attack was terrorism. Justice Department prosecutors even convinced a magistrate judge to jail the filmmaker.

• Hacking. Mr. Obama presided over the biggest data breach in the federal government’s history, at the Office of Personnel Management. The hack exposed the personnel files of millions of federal employees and may end up being used for everything from identity theft to blackmail and espionage. OPM Director Katherine Archuleta, the president’s former political director, had been warned repeatedly about security deficiencies but took no steps to fix them.

• Veterans Affairs. At least 40 U.S. veterans died waiting for appointments at a Phoenix VA facility, many of whom had been on a secret waiting list—part of an effort to conceal that between 1,400 and 1,600 veterans were forced to wait months for appointments. A 2014 internal VA audit found “57,436 newly enrolled veterans facing a minimum 90-day wait for medical care; 63,869 veterans who enrolled over the past decade requesting an appointment that never happened.” Even Mr. Obama admitted, in a November 2016 press conference, that “it was scandalous what happened”—though minutes earlier he boasted that “we will—knock on wood—leave this administration without significant scandal.”

All of these scandals were accompanied by a lack of transparency so severe that 47 of Mr. Obama’s 73 inspectors general signed an open letter in 2014 decrying the administration’s stonewalling of their investigations.

https://www.heritage.org/political-process/commentary/obamas-scandal-free-administration-myth

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/think-obama-administration-wasnt-corrupt-think-again/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/25/not-so-fast-obama-your-biggeest-scandal-unfolding-/

https://www.thoughtco.com/list-of-obama-scandals-and-controversies-3367635

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2018/05/29/obama_039i_didn039t_have_scandals039_so_what_are_all_these_443481.html

https://www.thespectrum.com/story/opinion/editorials/2018/03/02/president-barack-obama-scandal-free-delusion/387301002/

Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 31, 2018, 02:45:02 PM
I suggest Michael read the book The Russia Hoax by Greg Jarret
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on August 31, 2018, 02:48:15 PM
I suggest Michael read the book The Russia Hoax by Greg Jarret

 I dunno, it's over 350 pages with very few pictures.  The perfesser may have to wait for CNN to do a segment on it and tell him about it.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Number7 on August 31, 2018, 07:42:54 PM
I suggest Michael read the book The Russia Hoax by Greg Jarret

You think michael can read?

Mr. Triple Digit IQ hasn't shown a smidgen of intelligence in teh years he's spent posting drive by ignorance and bigoted bullshit.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Steingar on September 01, 2018, 07:01:55 AM
And you guys are so enamored of Pailin. Why? Because of her amazing run as mayor of bumfuck East Egypt Alaska? Did she even finish a term as governor? What did she do, what did she accomplish?
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Number7 on September 01, 2018, 07:09:08 AM
Poor, whittle, mikey.... cant get any respect as long as he whines, lies, bullshits and babbles the DNC talking points like a mentally disturbed, monkey.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on September 01, 2018, 07:12:08 AM
And you guys are so enamored of Pailin. Why? Because of her amazing run as mayor of bumfuck East Egypt Alaska? Did she even finish a term as governor? What did she do, what did she accomplish?

 This is so rich.........

 Let's look at the major accomplishments of a few of your heros:

Maxine Waters------

Sheila Jackson-Lee-----

Elizabeth Warren------

Hillary Clinton--------

Kamala Harris-------

Claire McCaskill------

Kirsten Gillibrand------

Tammy Baldwin-------

Nancy Pelosi----------

 All icons of the democrat party and highly revered by progressives, yet they've accomplished......nothing.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Little Joe on September 01, 2018, 07:22:09 AM
And you guys are so enamored of Pailin. Why? Because of her amazing run as mayor of bumfuck East Egypt Alaska? Did she even finish a term as governor? What did she do, what did she accomplish?
I personally was not enamored of Palin.  I don't like to see the fringe on either side get that kind of power, even though I agreed with her most of the time.

And I hold McCain responsible for nominating someone that couldn't possibly stand up to the scrutiny of the press and win.  That selection was a Hail-Mary shot to revive a failing campaign, and he fumbled badly.  McCain himself was a horrible choice for the Rs to place on the ballot in the first place.

The only reason he got all those glowing accolades from the press and Hollywood was for his vehement hate for Trump, which he allowed to influence his votes to the detriment of the country.

I will always respect him for his war record and for the way he conducted himself as a POW.  But my respect stops there.,
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Steingar on September 01, 2018, 05:35:03 PM
Deflect all you like, but not one of you has been able to show even one accomplishment by Mrs. Palin, other than to sink the Presidential campaign of her running mate.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on September 01, 2018, 05:56:13 PM
Deflect all you like, but not one of you has been able to show even one accomplishment by Mrs. Palin, other than to sink the Presidential campaign of her running mate.

McCain sunk his campaign.  Palin did not just show up one day and place herself on his ticket.  He wanted her, his staff approved and they offered her the position.   McCain ran a terrible campaign, and no matter who he put on the ticket he would have lost.

 I'm neutral on Palin.  I never really followed her political life.

 Seems the dems in the last election ran a woman who throughout her political life had no accomplishments, other than getting several Americans killed in Benghazi, committing felonies by having a private email server and having that email server hacked by the Chinese who were reading her highly classified emails in real time.  Oh, she did manage to destabilize the Middle East and turn Libya into a smoldering hell hole.  And don't forget her enriching her foundation with Uranium One.  And add to that her collusion with the Russians to sway the election. 

 Then we have Elizabeth Warren.  What has she accomplished in the senate?

 Or how about Kamala Harris?  What's been her great accomplishments?

 Or your favorite, Maxine Waters?  Decades in congress and she has done what?........

 Then you have Nancy Pelosi.  She accomplished being a train wreck as Speaker.  And she enriched her family $million$......But nothing legislative.

 Shelia Jackson-Lee......Other than stealing first class airline seats.....not much else.

 Same with Gillibrand, McCaskill, Baldwin.......Yep, dems have lots of low and non achievers in the ranks.

 
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Rush on September 01, 2018, 06:06:37 PM
I confess I don't know much about her either, but I damn sure would prefer to see her pleasant face and hear her pleasant voice on the news for 4 or 8 years over the woman the Dems tried to make the first female President. 

So I just now went to look for her accomplishments.  Not too bad, I don't have too many problems with these.

https://sarahpalininformation.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/30437/
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on September 01, 2018, 06:17:52 PM
I confess I don't know much about her either, but I damn sure would prefer to see her pleasant face and hear her pleasant voice on the news for 4 or 8 years over the woman the Dems tried to make the first female President. 

So I just now went to look for her accomplishments.  Not too bad, I don't have too many problems with these.

https://sarahpalininformation.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/30437/

Thanks for posting that!

 So it seems Gov Palin had many accomplishments.  And she was fiscally conservative.  Nice job!
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Number7 on September 01, 2018, 06:55:55 PM
The new left is manically Determined to make the world revisit the horros of the Nazi party.

The whole "Godwin" nonsense is just a pretext to shut down anyone that sees the obvious and sickening relationship between modern liberalism and old time Nazi hate and murder.

Liberals LOVE to censor anyone that disagrees, or even worse, anyone who points out the obvious.

Michael is just a minor example of the brutally uninformed modern liberal, driven by their hatred of those who refuse to conform, which is exactly what the nazis did to anyone who failed to conform to their sick platform.

What is ANTIFA and black lives matter if not modern nazi tactics?

What are people like the mayors of Berkley and Baltimore but nazi leaders?

Who are the public school teachers that make up ANTIFA if not wanna-be gestapo, SS, or brown shirts?

Isn't it odd that both movements adore mass murder, seek to criminalize dissent and did/do anything it takes to silence resistance?

Isn't it odd that both parties so love disinformation and so quickly and brutally deal with freedom of the speech, religion and the press?

Just to please his owner, George Soros, Michael mindlessly babbles the nazi (i mean democrat) party line, never thinking about a word he says, or a lie he repeats.

Good nazis do that. Even Jewish nazis.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on September 02, 2018, 12:52:26 PM
So perfesser, no catchy come back?  Are you satisfied now about Palin’s accomplishments?

Or will this be like so many times before where you just wimp away?
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Rush on September 02, 2018, 02:03:08 PM
So perfesser, no catchy come back?  Are you satisfied now about Palin’s accomplishments?

Or will this be like so many times before where you just wimp away?

In his defense, it's not like MSM ever talked about her accomplishments.  I had to go looking for them.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on September 02, 2018, 02:54:39 PM
In his defense, it's not like MSM ever talked about her accomplishments.  I had to go looking for them.

Yea, I agree.  It’s not like the perfesser to actual research something when msm talking points will suffice.  ;D
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on September 03, 2018, 06:57:48 AM
The perfesser's heros:

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/59665f6791ecd037afb5e1928576f0edbabfba69694b1dc6fcb86dcd917cde08.jpg?w=800&h=960)
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: azure on September 03, 2018, 07:28:08 AM
Good god. All I see here is pissing on the grave of a dead man. For shame. :(

My university held a memorial service for McCain last night. I didn't always agree with his politics, but I'm grateful to him for his years of sacrifice while in the military, so I went. It was a "silent muster", preceded by a bugle call and ended with taps and Amazing Grace on bagpipes. The entire Corps of Cadets was there, and all of us stood in silence for about 15 minutes. Impressive service, and IMHO wholly appropriate. I'm glad I went, though as far as I could tell I was the only faculty member there. Even here, most of the faculty are liberal/progressive.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on September 03, 2018, 07:46:25 AM
Good god. All I see here is pissing on the grave of a dead man. For shame. :(

My university held a memorial service for McCain last night. I didn't always agree with his politics, but I'm grateful to him for his years of sacrifice while in the military, so I went. It was a "silent muster", preceded by a bugle call and ended with taps and Amazing Grace on bagpipes. The entire Corps of Cadets was there, and all of us stood in silence for about 15 minutes. Impressive service, and IMHO wholly appropriate. I'm glad I went, though as far as I could tell I was the only faculty member there. Even here, most of the faculty are liberal/progressive.

 McCain pissed on his constituents that elected him to office.  He pissed on his fellow sailors in the military.  His military career was lackluster and mediocre at best.  If it hadn't been for his father he would have been kicked out of the Navy.

 Go ahead and believe the myths.  There is the real John McCain and then the legend crafted by himself.

Fact:  Had McCain not been attacking the President the media wouldn't had given his funeral 1% of the coverage it received. In typical JM fashion he used this to ensure his funeral got the press he felt he deserved.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on September 03, 2018, 07:47:39 AM
Even here, most of the faculty are liberal/progressive.

 Sounds like you fit right in.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Number7 on September 03, 2018, 07:48:19 AM
Good god. All I see here is pissing on the grave of a dead man. For shame. :(

My university held a memorial service for McCain last night. I didn't always agree with his politics, but I'm grateful to him for his years of sacrifice while in the military, so I went. It was a "silent muster", preceded by a bugle call and ended with taps and Amazing Grace on bagpipes. The entire Corps of Cadets was there, and all of us stood in silence for about 15 minutes. Impressive service, and IMHO wholly appropriate. I'm glad I went, though as far as I could tell I was the only faculty member there. Even here, most of the faculty are liberal/progressive.

The faculty of virtually every university is made of alt-left progressives. No surprise there.

As for John McCain, the ONLY reason the lefties are praising him is that he absolutely hated President Trump and anyone that moved the leftist ball down the court is useful to the left.

The fact that McCain delivered the fake dossier on behalf of the deep state is proof enough that he was loyal to the progressive cause and not his country, so his military record is very questionable to those of us that think instead of emote.

I will always be curious as to how he avoided being indicted along with the rest of the Keating Five. Maybe having Daddy Admiral and Grandaddy Admiral was enough, just as it was when he wrecked the boat and didn't get court marshalled, or kicked out.

As for Sarah Palin, McCain would have lost by far more than three million votes had he chosen a progressive republican to run with him. She saved him from losing by a record number of electoral votes, a record even he wouldn't have been able to live down.

As for your 'pissing on his grave' comment, the truth is always hard for leftists, because you folks live in a world where your delusions take precedence over the truth, so discussing it is like arguing with a Confederate Statue... oh, yeah. tearing down statues is another delusion that leftists engage in to make themselves feel better and virtue signal each other.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: azure on September 03, 2018, 07:51:30 AM
As for your 'pissing on his grave' comment, the truth is always hard for leftists, because you folks live in a world where your delusions take precedence over the truth, so discussing it is like arguing with a Confederate Statue... oh, yeah. tearing down statues is another delusion that leftists engage in to make themselves feel better and virtue signal each other.

Nope. I wouldn't say the things that have been said here about McCain if it was Trump who died, and I freely admit that I loathe Trump.

Oh, and "here" is a military academy, which is the only reason I commented that the faculty are mostly liberal. I'm well aware that it's true at nearly every other university.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Anthony on September 03, 2018, 07:56:13 AM
Other than as a POW, McCain was not a positive force in this country as a politician.  Also the Keating Five involvement was very suspect.  He loved to be contrarian, not because it was the right thing to do, but it got him media attention through controversy.  THAT is what he lived for. 
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Number7 on September 03, 2018, 10:31:43 AM
Conservatives are not like progressives.

We do not march in lockstep to anyone with an R next to their name. Progressives not only march in lockstep, but speak little more than talking points, revisionist bullshit and adoring, fawning lies on anyone who serves their agenda.

When a democrat gets caught they are surrounded by a wall of opposition refusing to allow their fellow communist to be treated as a criminal.

When a republican gets caught we turn our backs on them and let them swing for their crimes.

To understand the difference between a conservative and a progressive one only has to look at how the left defends Hilary Clinton, and how the right turn their back on McCain. It’s that obvious.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Little Joe on September 03, 2018, 10:32:55 AM
Good god. All I see here is pissing on the grave of a dead man. For shame. :(
That is because on the other sites, if you speak the truth about McCain, everyone gets their panties in a wad and the thread gets deleted.

The only reason he was a war hero is because he was captured and he was too damn mean and stubborn even for the North Vietnamese to break him.

And the only reason he is being so revered in the press now is because of his hatred for Trump and how he voted with the Democrats just to spite Trump.

He has always been a mean, spiteful, hateful curmudgeon (except in front of a camera).  Senators from both parties used to cross the street so they didn't have to talk to him.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Lucifer on September 03, 2018, 10:39:49 AM
That is because on the other sites, if you speak the truth about McCain, everyone gets their panties in a wad and the thread gets deleted.

The only reason he was a war hero is because he was captured and he was too damn mean and stubborn even for the North Vietnamese to break him.

And the only reason he is being so revered in the press now is because of his hatred for Trump and how he voted with the Democrats just to spite Trump.

He has always been a mean, spiteful, hateful curmudgeon (except in front of a camera).  Senators from both parties used to cross the street so they didn't have to talk to him.

To add to this, we’ve watched a week of the msm fawning over McCain, telling us he was a “maverick” a “hero” and a political icon. 

Funny, up until about 2015 these same talking heads and pundits told us McCain was a racist, a homophobe and white supremist who wanted to bring back slavery.  We were told how dishonest he was, how suspect his military record was and of course how he was guilty of being in the Keating 5 and should have been indicted.

 Don’t believe me?  Just go do some research on McCain during the past 30 years. 

Had McCain died before 2015 his funeral would have barely been covered.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Anthony on September 03, 2018, 10:55:04 AM
To add to this, we’ve watched a week of the msm fawning over McCain, telling us he was a “maverick” a “hero” and a political icon. 

Funny, up until about 2015 these same talking heads and pundits told us McCain was a racist, a homophobe and white supremist who wanted to bring back slavery.  We were told how dishonest he was, how suspect his military record was and of course how he was guilty of being in the Keating 5 and should have been indicted.

 Don’t believe me?  Just go do some research on McCain during the past 30 years. 

Had McCain died before 2015 his funeral would have barely been covered.

The media cycle is so quick they think we all forget that they called McCain, Bush, Romney, and other Trump haters the Devil for YEARS before Trump was a political force.  Now they think all these RINO's are great because they hate Trump, and are no longer in power.  The MSM are just liars.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: nddons on September 05, 2018, 11:50:14 AM
Good god. All I see here is pissing on the grave of a dead man. For shame. :(

My university held a memorial service for McCain last night. I didn't always agree with his politics, but I'm grateful to him for his years of sacrifice while in the military, so I went. It was a "silent muster", preceded by a bugle call and ended with taps and Amazing Grace on bagpipes. The entire Corps of Cadets was there, and all of us stood in silence for about 15 minutes. Impressive service, and IMHO wholly appropriate. I'm glad I went, though as far as I could tell I was the only faculty member there. Even here, most of the faculty are liberal/progressive.
Relax. If you were a dick when you were alive, you don’t get to avoid being considered a dick after you die.

To make matters worse, he dictated dick things to happen after he died, like who was not invited, who was asked to give a eulogy knowing they would turn it into a political rally, and other things. The premise of the OP is accurate.

This was his politics, and his politics sucked. He turned from a selfless officer at the Hanoi Hilton to a selfish, vindictive, career swamp dweller in his elected life.

If I was in Annapolis I would stand at attention at his funeral and fully respect the sacrifice he gave as a POW.  For that he deserved such a send off.  He didn’t deserve the political royalty treatment he received in death.
Title: Re: McCain still shitting on conservatives from the grave
Post by: Anthony on September 05, 2018, 12:08:28 PM
^^^^^^Well said Stan.