PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Jim Logajan on March 24, 2024, 09:19:52 AM
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Most Terrifying Poll Result I’ve Ever Seen’: Scott Rasmussen Surveys America’s Elite 1% (https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/03/21/shocking-number-of-politically-obsessed-elites-say-its-ok-to-win-by-cheating/)
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When veteran pollster Scott Rasmussen surveyed a group of Americans he calls the elite 1% earlier this year, he discovered a startling number who say it’s OK to win an election by cheating.
The elite 1%—individuals who make over $150,000 a year, live in densely populated areas, and have postgraduate degrees—are overwhelmingly liberal. They give President Joe Biden an 82% approval rating, compared to his 40% average from the rest of Americans.
Rasmussen asked these liberal voters: “Suppose that your favorite candidate loses a close election. However, people on the campaign know that they can win by cheating without being caught. Would you rather have your candidate win by cheating or lose by playing fair?”
Among all Americans, just 7% said they would want their candidate to win by cheating. But that number rose to 35% among the elite 1% and skyrocketed to 69% among those who are part of the politically obsessed 1%, meaning they talk about politics every day.
“I’ve been polling for a very long time and the last finding is the most terrifying poll result I’ve ever seen,” Rasmussen told The Daily Signal.
Rasmussen spoke to “The Daily Signal Podcast” about his findings and his upcoming plans for a weekly TV show. Listen to the full interview or read an edited transcript below.
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The mindset is that they have wealth to protect, therefore their vote should count more. You and I may not completely agree with that, as it flies in the face of fairness, but they may have a point. If you pay in and participate, you should have a say in how your government is run. After all, do you think a welfare queen should have the same vote as you?
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The mindset is that they have wealth to protect, therefore their vote should count more. You and I may not completely agree with that, as it flies in the face of fairness, but they may have a point. If you pay in and participate, you should have a say in how your government is run. After all, do you think a welfare queen should have the same vote as you?
That is certainly one possible explanation for their view. I didn't quote the whole linked article, but if you read it the transcript of the interview with Rasmussen includes this exchange:
Bluey: What are their views on government compared to the general population?
Rasmussen: Let’s start with a very simple one. Most Americans think we don’t have enough individual freedom. Among the elite 1%, about half say, “No, we’ve got too much freedom.” And among that politically obsessed group, about 7 out of 10 say, “There’s too much individual freedom in America.”
That’s just mindboggling to me, but part of the reason is because they trust government. In America, it’s been 50 years since most voters trusted the government to do the right thing most of the time. But among the elite 1%, 70% trust the government.
When I look at all the data, there’s a sense that most of us believe in government “of the people, by the people, and for the people.” And I think they would say, it’s of and by the elites that is what’s best for the people. They really believe that if they could just make the decisions and get us out of the way, we would be a lot better off.
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I didn't read the whole article. Thanks for including that. That is terrifying.
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The elite well off leftist is statistically more likely to be a Machiavellian psychopath who has no qualms about cheating.
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The elite well off leftist is statistically more likely to be a Machiavellian psychopath who has no qualms about cheating.
I'm surrounded by a whole bunch of leftists.
None of them admit to Trump being cheated, but to a person they say that even if it is true, it is a good thing. And these are not elitists.
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"The elite 1%—individuals who make over $150,000 a year, live in densely populated areas, and have postgraduate degrees"
I'm questioning how only 1% of our population meets that critiera.
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"The elite 1%—individuals who make over $150,000 a year, live in densely populated areas, and have postgraduate degrees"
I'm questioning how only 1% of our population meets that critiera.
In 2019 the Census Bureau said ~4.5 million had doctorates[1]. Out of ~300 million that is about 1.5%. That gets in the ballpark. A doctorate in philosophy or other liberal arts degrees is not likely to yield an individual income of $150k. Only ~8% of individuals earn $150k or more[2]. So between that and an appropriately chosen definition for "densely populated area" can yield a number close enough to ~1% for him to be able to say "elite 1%".
[1] https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/02/number-of-people-with-masters-and-phd-degrees-double-since-2000.html (https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/02/number-of-people-with-masters-and-phd-degrees-double-since-2000.html)
[2] https://www.omnicalculator.com/finance/us-income-percentile (https://www.omnicalculator.com/finance/us-income-percentile)
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In 2019 the Census Bureau said ~4.5 million had doctorates[1]. Out of ~300 million that is about 1.5%. That gets in the ballpark. A doctorate in philosophy or other liberal arts degrees is not likely to yield an individual income of $150k. Only ~8% of individuals earn $150k or more[2]. So between that and an appropriately chosen definition for "densely populated area" can yield a number close enough to ~1% for him to be able to say "elite 1%".
[1] https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/02/number-of-people-with-masters-and-phd-degrees-double-since-2000.html (https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/02/number-of-people-with-masters-and-phd-degrees-double-since-2000.html)
[2] https://www.omnicalculator.com/finance/us-income-percentile (https://www.omnicalculator.com/finance/us-income-percentile)
ok, so 4.5 million have doctorates. But a masters degree is also a postgraduate degree.
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ok, so 4.5 million have doctorates. But a masters degree is also a postgraduate degree.
I couldn't get close to his number if I included masters degrees. I did some further searching and found this article:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/01/24/the_real_story_of_the_two_americas_150371.html#! (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/01/24/the_real_story_of_the_two_americas_150371.html#!)
In it there is this, which narrows the elite to postgraduates who attended 8 schools, which would make the elite indeed a small number:
A group I helped found, the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, just published a study entitled "Them vs. U.S." examining how America's cultural elites (defined as at least one postgraduate degree, $150,000-plus annual income, high-density urban residence and attended an Ivy League school) are hopelessly out of touch with ordinary Americans. Pollster Scott Rasmussen did the research.
EDIT TO ADD link to original report:
https://committeetounleashprosperity.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Them-vs-Us_CTUP-Rasmussen-Study-FINAL.pdf (https://committeetounleashprosperity.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Them-vs-Us_CTUP-Rasmussen-Study-FINAL.pdf)
One more edit: High population density is defined in the report as zip code areas with10,000+ people per square mile.
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in any case, regardless of how silly or strained their definition of elite 1%, it is disturbing that people, any one, think that cheating is ok.
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in any case, regardless of how silly or strained their definition of elite 1%, it is disturbing that people, any one, think that cheating is ok.
If morality were a common thing we wouldn't have as many cops or prisons.
In fact we wouldn't have much more than the first 10 commandments as laws. But that's not the world we live in.
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If morality were a common thing we wouldn't have as many cops or prisons.
In fact we wouldn't have much more than the first 10 commandments as laws. But that's not the world we live in.
Curious what the subsequent commandments are.
An interesting figure would be the increase/decrease in crimes, number of prisons and number of incarcerations as our stabilizing codes, mores and institutions are hacked away. Of course, letting criminals walk free would show up as fewer incarcerations, I suppose.
It actually doesn’t surprise me that there is a strata of people who think stealing votes is okay if it’s for their candidate. It illustrates the depth of selfishness and twisting of reality that occurs in the absence of any awareness of higher governing principles than one’s own small, grasping nature.
Sadly, I have liberal friends whom I think would feel fine about cheating if it kept Donald Trump from holding office. Their hatred overpowers their reason.
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Curious what the subsequent commandments are.
We’ll never know.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/84b445c8570fa475dbc01f5f40bd5ac8/tumblr_myjjeliP4j1sum3xmo1_500.gif)
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The problem is, people on the what I’ll loosely call “the right”, meaning pretty much everyone except the psycho authoritarian left, are more moral, and therefore less inclined to cheat, to not “stoop to their level”, but this leaves them at a persistent disadvantage. If the other side cheats, how can you win except to cheat harder?
Well then that just leads to spiraling chaos. The answer should be: Prevent cheating with law and accountability. But it has gotten to the point that the left thumbs their nose at such attempts and carries on with impunity, no longer trying to hide or deny it, other than pathetic assertions nobody believes such as 2020 being the “most secure election in history”.
The top 1% (or whatever percent it is) have too tight a hold on power at this point, having infested all our institutions. They now expect to win as their divine right. We’ve come full circle back to what we broke from in 1776, except now it’s worse. They’re here instead of across the ocean, and they have far greater reach into our personal lives than 18th century aristocrats could ever dream of.
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We're heading to becoming Venezuela or Mexico with all the corruption today. We used to be better than that.
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Curious what the subsequent commandments are.
Our country alone has thousands upon thousands of "commandments" on the books, not to mention all of those commandments at the State and local level. And some of those commandments fill whole book shelves.
Or don't you call a law that puts you in prison if you don't follow it a "commandment"?
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Our country alone has thousands upon thousands of "commandments" on the books, not to mention all of those commandments at the State and local level. And some of those commandments fill whole book shelves.
Or don't you call a law that puts you in prison if you don't follow it a "commandment"?
Your reference to the “first ten” indicated to me you were talking about the commandments from God. We usually don’t refer to laws as commandments.
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Your reference to the “first ten” indicated to me you were talking about the commandments from God. We usually don’t refer to laws as commandments.
Got it.
I'll try to be technically, factually and grammatically correct in a non-humorous way in what I say from now on.
Just like everyone else. ::)
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Got it.
I'll try to be technically, factually and grammatically correct in a non-humorous way in what I say from now on.
Just like everyone else. ::)
I got what you meant.
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I got what you meant.
I'm sure Becky did too.