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Title: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Rush on November 28, 2018, 10:56:23 AM
I gave this stuff to all my friends and neighbors for Christmas last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TatlZ4Dripc

Here's what he says about the coffee establishment (Starbucks, etc.):

"A mix of pseudo-intellectualism and conformity...they look like they should be chopping wood but they don't have the calluses to prove it."

BWA HA HA HA HA!!!
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: jb1842 on November 28, 2018, 11:09:07 AM
I love their coffee. I drink it everyday.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: nddons on November 28, 2018, 11:12:40 AM
I love their coffee. I drink it everyday.
I need to try them. Is it only online or are they in any stores?

By the way, be safe out there Josh.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: invflatspin on November 28, 2018, 11:34:29 AM
"AK47" grind.

lolz.

I'm going to see about franchise costs. BTW, I had a cup of Army coffee back in 1973. I can still taste it.

https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/pages/become-a-franchise-owner  If anyone else is interested. Still no franchises, but they are probably on the cusp.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Rush on November 28, 2018, 12:30:18 PM
My husband said, "You wanna open a Black Rifle Coffee shop"?  I said, "Deal with the general public? Hell no."  So he said, "Well if they're public we at least need to buy some stock."  Yes, we could do that.

I get Murdered Out on the delivery plan.  I won't go back to anything else unless I roast it myself.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: jb1842 on November 28, 2018, 02:05:48 PM
I need to try them. Is it only online or are they in any stores?

By the way, be safe out there Josh.

You can only order online, but it takes a while for delivery. They do admit it takes awhile due to post office issues. I actually wasn't there if you are referring to the new the other night. Been off work for injuries the last few months. Unfortunately, I'm going to be medically retired because of them. I have a spinal fusion surgery in 2 weeks, and possible surgery to fix wrist a few months after that.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: nddons on November 28, 2018, 02:27:42 PM
You can only order online, but it takes a while for delivery. They do admit it takes awhile due to post office issues. I actually wasn't there if you are referring to the new the other night. Been off work for injuries the last few months. Unfortunately, I'm going to be medically retired because of them. I have a spinal fusion surgery in 2 weeks, and possible surgery to fix wrist a few months after that.
I was talking about that news.  Glad you weren’t involved.

Sorry about the surgery. That sucks.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: jb1842 on November 28, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
I was talking about that news.  Glad you weren’t involved.

Sorry about the surgery. That sucks.

Thanks. Just hoping it fixes things and doesn't make it worse. Doc says I have an 80% chance of full recovery, but that takes 12-18 months. I can't risk my safety or others safety on that. Thinking about a career in aviation when all is said and done, but I know I'm going to have to jump through hoops on the medical now.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Rush on November 28, 2018, 03:35:27 PM
Thanks. Just hoping it fixes things and doesn't make it worse. Doc says I have an 80% chance of full recovery, but that takes 12-18 months. I can't risk my safety or others safety on that. Thinking about a career in aviation when all is said and done, but I know I'm going to have to jump through hoops on the medical now.

Yikes! Hoping for the best. Doesn't sound like fun at all.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: jb1842 on November 28, 2018, 04:00:53 PM
Yikes! Hoping for the best. Doesn't sound like fun at all.

I feel bad for my wife. We have a very active 17 month old and she' going to have to pretty much do everything for him for 3 months after the surgery.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Anthony on November 28, 2018, 05:03:35 PM
 I let my Colt M4 speak for me, and my CZ's. 
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 28, 2018, 06:37:14 PM
You can only order online, but it takes a while for delivery. They do admit it takes awhile due to post office issues. I actually wasn't there if you are referring to the new the other night. Been off work for injuries the last few months. Unfortunately, I'm going to be medically retired because of them. I have a spinal fusion surgery in 2 weeks, and possible surgery to fix wrist a few months after that.
My wife has had five back surgeries and a neck surgery.  Not sure she has a lot left to fuse and I believe she's about three inches shorter than when I married her.

She also has two artificial hips and a knee and will get the second knee next month.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: jb1842 on November 28, 2018, 07:12:14 PM
My wife has had five back surgeries and a neck surgery.  Not sure she has a lot left to fuse and I believe she's about three inches shorter than when I married her.

She also has two artificial hips and a knee and will get the second knee next month.

Holy shit! I'm worried that the first surgery will lead to multiple.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: nddons on November 28, 2018, 07:17:29 PM
My wife has had five back surgeries and a neck surgery.  Not sure she has a lot left to fuse and I believe she's about three inches shorter than when I married her.

She also has two artificial hips and a knee and will get the second knee next month.
Does she look like this?

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=3sX19t9j&id=8F83E451AB80D8BA4737F062220B9C3BBD988177&thid=OIP.3sX19t9jJUE_z88GIwXP9QHaKs&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2f2.bp.blogspot.com%2f-0Ai2PqPCV1w%2fVxj5or9vuEI%2fAAAAAAAAZcU%2f_KIVjZRfVJY5IorBE8nV6yISTvajz1SYwCLcB%2fs1600%2f00BW2n.jpg&exph=722&expw=500&q=bionic+woman&simid=608056123572620467&selectedIndex=18
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 28, 2018, 07:19:59 PM
Holy shit! I'm worried that the first surgery will lead to multiple.
She has degenerative disc disease. She is fused from L4 - S1 and in the neck at two levels. I'm not sure you should fear having multiple surgeries of what your battling is from an injury.  I wish you well.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 28, 2018, 07:20:44 PM
Does she look like this?

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=3sX19t9j&id=8F83E451AB80D8BA4737F062220B9C3BBD988177&thid=OIP.3sX19t9jJUE_z88GIwXP9QHaKs&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2f2.bp.blogspot.com%2f-0Ai2PqPCV1w%2fVxj5or9vuEI%2fAAAAAAAAZcU%2f_KIVjZRfVJY5IorBE8nV6yISTvajz1SYwCLcB%2fs1600%2f00BW2n.jpg&exph=722&expw=500&q=bionic+woman&simid=608056123572620467&selectedIndex=18 (https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=3sX19t9j&id=8F83E451AB80D8BA4737F062220B9C3BBD988177&thid=OIP.3sX19t9jJUE_z88GIwXP9QHaKs&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2f2.bp.blogspot.com%2f-0Ai2PqPCV1w%2fVxj5or9vuEI%2fAAAAAAAAZcU%2f_KIVjZRfVJY5IorBE8nV6yISTvajz1SYwCLcB%2fs1600%2f00BW2n.jpg&exph=722&expw=500&q=bionic+woman&simid=608056123572620467&selectedIndex=18)
Cost wise yes.   ;D
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: jb1842 on November 28, 2018, 07:30:51 PM
She has degenerative disc disease. She is fused from L4 - S1 and in the neck at two levels. I'm not sure you should fear having multiple surgeries of what your battling is from an injury.  I wish you well.

I have degenerative disk disease at l4-l5 and l5-s1. Also have scoliosis and spondylolisthesis. Fusion is at l5-s1. The spondy came from a car chase accident 2 years ago that knocked it out of alignment, which has caused the discs to collapse. Actually broke small part of vertebrae in that accident. Since then back is getting more unstable and keeps getting injured. Now getting shooting pain down buttocks and leg, and toes are constantly tingling/numb.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 28, 2018, 07:48:51 PM
I have degenerative disk disease at l4-l5 and l5-s1. Also have scoliosis and spondylolisthesis. Fusion is at l5-s1. The spondy came from a car chase accident 2 years ago that knocked it out of alignment, which has caused the discs to collapse. Actually broke small part of vertebrae in that accident. Since then back is getting more unstable and keeps getting injured. Now getting shooting pain down buttocks and leg, and toes are constantly tingling/numb.


Sorry to hear all that.  My wife gets along very well for all she's been through.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: jb1842 on November 28, 2018, 07:53:32 PM

Sorry to hear all that.  My wife gets along very well for all she's been through.

I'm optimistic I can get full recovery in the long run. I have a good doc, and the guys at physical therapy are a good bunch. I just turned 40 a few weeks ago so being younger should help, too. Sucks that I'm going to have to switch careers, though.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Steingar on November 29, 2018, 08:41:09 AM
Where I was in Guatemala coffee is big time.  I believe it is their major export, and likely dwarfs textiles.  Row upon row of coffee plants climbing up hills I could barely get up.

I am so glad I never developed a taste for that stuff.  Not only do I get to skip an addiction, but I don't support with my coin the horrid activity I saw. I doubt coffee cultivation is different anywhere else.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 29, 2018, 09:01:57 AM
Where I was in Guatemala coffee is big time.  I believe it is their major export, and likely dwarfs textiles.  Row upon row of coffee plants climbing up hills I could barely get up.

I am so glad I never developed a taste for that stuff.  Not only do I get to skip an addiction, but I don't support with my coin the horrid activity I saw. I doubt coffee cultivation is different anywhere else.
What year were you there? I’m going to posit that current fair trade policies and global awareness are making significant dents in coffee cultivation atrocities. Plus, most U.S. coffee roasters, for some inexplicable but likely explicable reason, are liberals. They would not countenance exploitation!

That most roasters are liberals is what makes Black Rifle stand out.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Steingar on November 29, 2018, 09:54:18 AM
What year were you there? I’m going to posit that current fair trade policies and global awareness are making significant dents in coffee cultivation atrocities. Plus, most U.S. coffee roasters, for some inexplicable but likely explicable reason, are liberals. They would not countenance exploitation!

That most roasters are liberals is what makes Black Rifle stand out.
I was there last year.  The beans are maintained and harvested by Campesinos to whom things like fair pay and benefits are quaint western notions.

I'll bet those hills are owned by wealthy Latino Guatemalans, who are all too happy to pile on the Mayans.  They didn't fight a civil war there a few years back over nothing.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2018, 10:06:15 AM
I was there last year.  The beans are maintained and harvested by Campesinos to whom things like fair pay and benefits are quaint western notions.

I'll bet those hills are owned by wealthy Latino Guatemalans, who are all too happy to pile on the Mayans.  They didn't fight a civil war there a few years back over nothing.

 Welcome to how over half the world works.

 Why do you think US companies such as Nike, Apple, Dell, etc have their goods made overseas?  Do you think it's because they feel a need to give good high paying jobs to the downtrodden?   Or do you believe it's because they know they can get their products made with a labor force with no benefits and literally pennies on the dollar?

 Enjoy those bananas you get at the store?  How about those grapes from central America, or those oranges from Brazil?  Think those workers are getting $15/hour and full benefits?   Probably more like $5/day for 12 plus hours of labor.

 
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Anthony on November 29, 2018, 10:21:02 AM
Plus those companies in foreign hell holes have very little environmental regulation, or other government requirements, fees, etc that strangle American business on the Fed, State, and Local level. 
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Little Joe on November 29, 2018, 10:34:11 AM
Has anyone else suddenly seen a plethora of Black Rifle Coffee Company ads on various web sites and search engines?
I don't even remember clicking on the link, but I may have.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: invflatspin on November 29, 2018, 02:09:09 PM
Has anyone else suddenly seen a plethora of Black Rifle Coffee Company ads on various web sites and search engines?
I don't even remember clicking on the link, but I may have.

Everything you do on the internet is tracked. The cookies for this site include keyword references. If you are on a Windows 10 machine, it's even worse than you could ever imagine.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2018, 02:17:00 PM
Everything you do on the internet is tracked.

Damn right Skippy.  ;D
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Steingar on November 30, 2018, 08:02:11 AM
Plus those companies in foreign hell holes have very little environmental regulation, or other government requirements, fees, etc that strangle American business on the Fed, State, and Local level.

Sorry, but I wouldn't call that part of the world a hell hole by any stretch.  It is utterly gorgeous, though you are spot on about environmental regulation.  Lake Attitlan is the most beautiful and exotic mountain lake I've ever seen, and its dead.  I'll take the regulations, thank you.  Don't really need our waterways to catch fire.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Anthony on November 30, 2018, 08:06:05 AM
Sorry, but I wouldn't call that part of the world a hell hole by any stretch.  It is utterly gorgeous, though you are spot on about environmental regulation.  Lake Attitlan is the most beautiful and exotic mountain lake I've ever seen, and its dead.  I'll take the regulations, thank you.  Don't really need our waterways to catch fire.

Yes, those areas are physically beautiful, but their governments are often corrupt, and the living conditions and standards for the average person aren't great. 
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Rush on November 30, 2018, 09:20:25 AM
The truth is people everywhere do what they need to do to survive. Shockingly low wages by our standards mean survival to them. In every system, including capitalism, the few at the top get rich and everyone else just gets by, and, as countries pull themselves out of the third world, if the market is allowed to progress, there will be the rise of a middle class. The only thing worse than a capitalist free market is a market centrally owned and controlled by government. There you still have those at the top getting richer but the rest decline into starvation and you never have a viable middle class.

We can't judge third world jobs by the top standards of the first world. Child labor for example means the difference between eating and starving, so let the kids work if that's what the family needs. So called "exploitation" is very often people taking whatever job is available so they can eat. If you allow the country to participate in the global marketplace and the country itself allows its citizens to participate freely these issues work themselves out and the country progresses. You can't force instantaneous change from the top down.

Usually the biggest obstacle to these people rising out of poverty is their own despot leaders, or factional infighting, plus it takes a while for indigenous cultures to assimilate into modern times. It's a gradual process taking generations.

It's wrong to take the position "evil West exploits poor workers in the third world".  In reality what's really happening is "modern technology and global scale economies are lifting all humans out of subsistence living, but at different rates, with fits and starts, and growing pains, but the general trend is to bring these people into the modern world".

This isn't good or bad, it is what is and what is inevitable, there is no stopping it. Anyone not brought into the modern world, like the Sentinalese, will inevitably become like alien beings on their own planet, hopelessly disconnected, falling farther and farther behind until they're not much different than zoo animals.

The bad is that the modern world, relying on agriculture with its grains causing teeth decay and diabetes and its cities causing communicable diseases, has a lot of problems. On the flip side modern science and medicine has brought a lot of good and living in general has never been easier for those that have been brought up to middle class or above, and it's a higher proportion than ever before in recorded history.

The healthiest and happiest and most natural way for a human to live is in theory as the Sentinalese, having achieved the right balance with their environment. But in reality that never lasts in nature. No sooner does a species achieve balance, something changes and they must adjust. And in any case it simply cannot be. The only reason the Sentinalese can do it is their forced confinement on an island.

Take the tribes in central Africa and the problem of bushmeat poaching. Eating apes and other mammals has traditionally been how man survived and it was a healthy ecological balance. But contact with the modern world, logging and other threats to species has brought many animals to the endangered point so taking them to eat or sell parts or sell babies as pets is now illegal. Tribes are now encouraged to raise herds of domesticated cattle and to grow crops in other words transition from hunter gatherer to modern settled societies. This is terrible for those tribes! But in the long run it has to happen. No one wants the great apes to go extinct. Their way of life is not sustainable anymore.

There is no choice, these people must assimilate or they will be marginalized and impoverished and utterly left behind as man and civilization advances.

Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: invflatspin on November 30, 2018, 11:24:12 AM
Whew, read it all. The question remains though - can one get a good hot cup of Black Rifle coffee on N Sentinel Island?
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Rush on November 30, 2018, 03:25:23 PM
Whew, read it all. The question remains though - can one get a good hot cup of Black Rifle coffee on N Sentinel Island?

Ha ha ha! What the hell is wrong with me?  I have better things to do than write tomes like that.
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: invflatspin on November 30, 2018, 06:50:53 PM
Ha ha ha! What the hell is wrong with me?  I have better things to do than write tomes like that.

Ectually, I like them. they are little windows into the mind of quality examination, without fear of much bombastic critique(well, except for one hoser). ;)
Title: Re: Black Rifle Coffee Company
Post by: Rush on December 01, 2018, 09:58:19 AM
The urban hipster Starbucks-sipping bearded looks-like-a-logger but isn't, should really love these:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/04/26/nordstrom-is-selling-jeans-caked-in-fake-dirt-for-hundreds-of-dollars/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a9216a86989b