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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by Lucifer on Today at 05:06:49 AM »
When it comes to Zelensky, you rarely speak the truth. Zelensky, Zelensky, and Zelensky are your main talking points. You constantly make claims that don't stand up under close scrutiny.

 You know that's bullshit.  The only "truth" you want to hear is your version.   Like I've said, your mask is off now.  ;)

All because you need a reason to argue against spending our money to aid Ukraine.

The reasons are all there for everyone to see, except for the war mongering left of which you have become a part of.  You keep justifying pouring borrowed money down that shithole and handing the bill to the US taxpayers, which is pure lunacy.

I agree that we shouldn't fund some other country's defense. In the case of Ukraine that policy decision should have been made and communicated well before Russia invaded Ukraine.

 So you agree we shouldn't fund other countries defense, but you are all in to funding Ukraine because we should have told them sooner we wouldn't fund them?



Once a commitment is made and support is later started then any cessation will be taken by an aggressor like Putin as confirmation that he need merely wait out his enemies in all future conflicts. Totalitarian states like China, Iran and North Korea will take away the same lesson.

  This is more bullshit talking points to justify the continued borrowing and dumping money.   Ever hear of Vietnam, Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan, Haiti and a few other shitholes?    Same excuse was given "If we stop sending money our enemies will take over".   

Want to count up the trillions spent, but more importantly the American lives lost running these "wars for profit'?

 
The US is estimated to have about 750 military bases in 80 countries and there are a mix of implicit and explicit commitments the US has made regarding their use. The US needs to get out of them now - before any fighting starts. This article is worth reading on the problem:
https://thegunzone.com/how-many-us-military-bases-are-there-in-the-world/

  You're now bouncing all over the place trying to get your mask back on and hoping no one notices.   There's a huge difference in having a forward base of operations to protect US interest versus dumping billions into a country under a dictator fighting a war he can't win.
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Spin Zone / Re: Trump's NY Trial
« Last post by Username on Today at 04:54:07 AM »
A bookkeeping entry they said was in error, a misdemeanor.  Raised to a felony because the prosecution said it was to further a campaign finance crime.  That is federal, that DC declined to prosecute, and that NY does not have jurisdiction.  With a judge who donates to the democrats.  Whose daughter has a business that does advertising for democrats who would benefit greatly from a conviction.  Where a lawyer from FJB's DOJ was recruited for the prosecution.

And now the sentencing will be four days before the Republican convention.

Nope... not political at all.
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Spin Zone / Re: Trump's NY Trial
« Last post by Little Joe on Today at 03:43:09 AM »
So you think it was a fair trial, in an unbiased venue, with an unbiased judge?
There you go again. ::)
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Spin Zone / Re: Where Does America Go From Here
« Last post by Little Joe on Today at 03:37:35 AM »
Rather than breaking the US apart, I'd rather see us re-affirm the Constitution where most of the power resides with the States.
Maybe even go further in limiting the power of the Feds to National Defense and certain infrastructure (think Interstate Highways and the power grid), and I'm not even sure about giving them control of the power grid.  Departments like the EPA and Education would be eliminated or reduced to a supporting role only and available to help the States "ON REQUEST" and without strings.  There are some problems that are too big for a state to tackle alone, or shouldn't have to tackle alone, like border protection and water rights.  Georgia should not be allowed to dam up the Chatahoochee and choke Alabama and Florida.

But I see the odds of either to be about the same as the odds of peace in the Middle East.  We will become a 2nd or 3rd rate county in a world ruled by strong, decisive leaders (eg: China, Russia or some other dictatorship).
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Spin Zone / Re: Where Does America Go From Here
« Last post by Rush on Today at 03:29:29 AM »
I’m not going to judge Jim unless I find out he voted for Biden.  But you’re right, I’m not sure this country can recover from this. Now that the precedent has been set, no one will run for president or a high government office ever again who isn’t in with the Uniparty, for fear of literal prison under spurious made up charges. The weaponization of the “justice” system against anyone they don’t approve of is complete.
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Spin Zone / Re: Trump's NY Trial
« Last post by Anthony on Today at 03:11:49 AM »
Which part should I elaborate on?  The fact that Trump was found guilty on all 34 counts, or my prognostication that there will be battles ahead?

So you think it was a fair trial, in an unbiased venue, with an unbiased judge?
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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 30, 2024, 08:53:32 PM »
Zelensky declared martial law the morning after Russia invaded this last time. Ukraine's parliament has been voting to extend it every 90 days or it lapses. The last vote to extend Ukrainian martial law for another 90 days was on May 8.

Petro Poroshenko was president of Ukraine before Zelensky and he had declared Ukrainian martial law in 2018 for 30 days after Russia fired upon and seized three Ukrainian naval vessels and their crews.

Russian aggression was the common element in those declarations, not the person who was president at the time and definitely not Blinken.
Got it, so Zelensky was the one that initially declared and you believe Blinken is not pulling the strings over there.
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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by Jim Logajan on May 30, 2024, 08:49:57 PM »
I think the question is, who declared marshal law?
Zelensky declared martial law the morning after Russia invaded this last time. Ukraine's parliament has been voting to extend it every 90 days or it lapses. The last vote to extend Ukrainian martial law for another 90 days was on May 8.

Petro Poroshenko was president of Ukraine before Zelensky and he had declared Ukrainian martial law in 2018 for 30 days after Russia fired upon and seized three Ukrainian naval vessels and their crews.

Russian aggression was the common element in those declarations, not the person who was president at the time and definitely not Blinken.
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Spin Zone / Re: Trump's NY Trial
« Last post by EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 30, 2024, 07:56:43 PM »
Any bets on how quickly Niki strikes and claims she should now be the candidate?
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Spin Zone / Re: More Ukraine Clusterfuck
« Last post by Number7 on May 30, 2024, 07:55:50 PM »
It has nothing to do with bases. You are using anything and everything to avoid the truth, jim.

DEMOCRATS need to stop running wars to keep their donors in the MIC flush with cash from our pockets.
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