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I recall seeing Obama hung in effigy a while back and I was just as outraged.  I hated Obama and am thrilled he's out of the White House, but people who do that sort of thing are suggesting violent insurrection. It's encouraging people to have thoughts about assassination of a sitting President and THAT is sedition.  I don't tolerate it from anyone toward any President. It's got nothing to do with "snowflake feelings".  What she did is extremely hostile and promoting hate, very lamely disguised as "comedy". It's atrocious, just like anyone suggesting we hang Obama was atrocious. But the anti-Obama sentiment NEVER reached the levels we're seeing out of the left today toward Trump and anyone supporting him. The liberal left is a runaway train of hatred unlike anything I've ever seen in my life, and I saw the KKK burning crosses in the 1960s.

I recall plenty of people talking about how they hoped Obama would get assassinated, or similar.  The numerous effigies of Obama being hanged or burned.  Comedians making coarse jokes about him.  I wasn't offended by it, but I found much of it to be over the line and in poor taste.  The same goes for Kathy Griffin's latest gaffe.  People are free to say what they want, it's sort of a part of our national rights.  It doesn't protect them from being dealt with by their employers, which is exactly what happened in this case.

I'm not personally offended if someone wants to portray the killing of Obama, Clinton, Trump, etc., but they have the right to do so at their own peril.  I surely won't be getting upset about a photo shoot for a D-list comedian.


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Spin Zone / Re: Colorado cuts teen births and abortion rates in half
« on: April 12, 2017, 04:20:44 PM »
What's your justification for subsidizing someone else's recreational activities? Why should I, or any taxpayer, pay for someone else's birth control?
My justification is selfishness.  Unwanted pregnancies, especially by poor single women propagate poverty and crime, which we all wind up paying for.  It would be cheaper to pay to prevent it than to deal with it later.  And like I said, it was a compromise.  Of course, I realize that some people fail to comprehend the concept of compromise.  And THAT is a shame.

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Either you trolling, or I don't understand your context!

How is a minimum wage job better than welfare?  Let me count the ways . . .

For one thing, there is the issue of self respect.
For another, a minimum wage job is contributing to society.  Welfare is a drag on it.
Work experience is invaluable.
Learning a work ethic, like getting up in the morning and wearing clean clothes is important.
It is easier to get a better job if you have a low paying one than it is to get a job if you are on welfare (especially for an extended time period).

Now, were you joking with your question?

My point was that if you have the option of being on welfare and not working, or working a minimum wage job for 40+ hours a week to be in the same (or worse) position financially when you add it all up, then why would anyone choose the latter?

1)Not really going to be able to play the self-respect card with people who have little concept of it in regards to working a minimum-wage job.  I know that feeling of respect, but I don't think it's something you can "sell" to those on welfare.

2)Those on welfare don't care if it's a drag on society, nor do they likely have any concept of it's impact on the government.  Most of them don't even make the link between working people's taxes paying for them to live for free.

3) I don't disagree on the concept, but convincing a welfare recipient to live on minimum wage without welfare assistance for the "work experience" is similar to convincing a lawyer to do pro bono work.

4) See answer #3 above. 

5) Absolutely, that goes with any job.  It's almost always easier to find a good job if you have one.

To summarize:  you have to remember that, by telling welfare recipients that a minimum wage job is better than welfare, you are going to have to convince them it's better.  I already know the benefits and satisfaction of doing honest labor and being self-sufficient/productive as I was raised to be so.  Those who have spent a lifetime in poverty, aren't likely to agree with you that it's better to work a minimum wage job so that they can earn the intangible benefits of self respect, valuable job experience, learning work ethic, or ease of finding a better job later on, when they'd still be in the same spot they're currently in while having to work much harder for it.

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No, you and I don't quite agree.

It's not society's responsibility to create an incentive, and for sure and for certain it's not the responsibility of the Federal governement.  It must come from within.
I hate having to say this, but the greatest creator of incentive can often be suffering. We seem as a culture to have adopted the idea that suffering should be eliminated, but in truth, discomfort seems to clarify thoughts and create energy to strive toward a better end.

Human flourishing depends upon clear-eyed and vigorously upheld recognition of this fact.

It's just like with your kids. You let them struggle a bit and stand back when they're experiencing the consequences of bad choices. They learn from some hurt, and you hurt, too. But it is right and good to not impede the process.

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Spin Zone / Re: Ah, free thought in academia....
« on: August 31, 2016, 11:33:31 AM »
    The article is biased. It fails to note that the professors' letter to the students admits that they share the students' concerns about climate change perspectives. But it's an online course about medical humanities, not a debate course on the merits of climate change or fracking. From reading through the syllabus, some fractional part of the course (week 6) involves health effects of and medical community response to fracking. I actually can't even find the portion of the class, if it exists, that focuses on climate change, though frankly I didn't read every word of the syllabus.

    So let's see:
    • Course is an online class on medical humanities
    • One out of 16 sections discusses fracking and perhaps climate change, but only as it relates to medical humanities
    • Professors are honest about content of the course, advising that debate of climate change is not part of the syllabus and will not be included in the course
    • Shitty website writes biased article


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Spin Zone / Re: White Christians need to act more Christian than white
« on: January 20, 2016, 11:41:00 PM »
Honestly, I was going to post a whole big long rant that would go down the page with all kinds of foul words. I went away and came back and I'm better now.

It's not about black and white. The sooner we get past that garbage the better. It's all about culture. It has been for ages now.

Anybody ever notice how when a person with dark brown skin, dark brown eyes and curly dark black hair comes from a place like Kenya, or England, or Australia and doesn't look like they just got out of prison and speaks proper english, even if broken and with a thick accent, they are immediately accepted.

Anybody ever notice how when a person with dark brown skin, dark brown eyes and curly dark black hair goes to university, gets a degree and takes on a profession that they are immediately accepted.

Anybody ever notice how when a person with dark brown skin, dark brown eyes and curly dark black hair takes the office of City Council, mayor, assembly person, representative, senator, attorney general, district attorney, police chief, sheriff, CEO, engineer, doctor, scientist, astronomer, astronaut, fighter pilot, US military General, or President of the fucking US of A that they are immediately accepted?

This is what we have a problem with -



Trash culture that breeds more and more misery, ignorance, death and incarceration. Stupid makes more stupid over and over again.

This is what we (Americans in general) want-



Now, obviously we don't need to see folks wearing a suit all the time, what everybody wants that loves America, other than just their sorry selves is- assimilation. Do as the dominant culture does. Educate your kids. Inspire them to do better than you do. Want them to learn and not just shut their mouth when they ask questions. Engage with your children and their future. Have them be just like the smart kids in school no matter what they color are.

Millions of people with dark brown skin, dark brown eyes and curly dark black hair, have done exactly this and it has turned out incredibly well for them!!! Learn from them instead of choosing to reject them and cling to an identity that is broken and a proven failure. Don't give in to the "poor us, we have been wronged, now you owe us" culture. Step above that shit.

"Black lives matters" is a crappy joke. All lives matter. It's backward trash culture that doesn't matter and it needs to fade away. Anybody with dark brown skin, dark brown eyes and curly dark black hair needs to work towards this end rather than defend this failed culture. At this point, it makes no matter how we got here, it just matters how we move ahead.

Skin color doesn't matter. Character does. The people and "victims" that the OP posted about, were of poor character and clung to the old culture. They ultimately fell victim to it. Crooked, murderous white cops is part of that culture. Those cops need to be punished if they are truly guilty, but the defenders of the victims have to ask themselves, how did these people get there and what could they have done to never encounter that misery?

Having said this, there obviously are hold outs to the old fucked up white culture white people have had in the past. There are those that want to cling to ideas of "racial supremacy". It will take time to completely cleanse society of this rubbish and we are working on it. It's pretty obvious is if you really look around and not just at the sensational headlines that this is so.

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