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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: LevelWing on June 03, 2018, 08:15:46 AM

Title: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: LevelWing on June 03, 2018, 08:15:46 AM
I don't always agree with George Will or Mitch McConnell but I think Will raises some interesting points in this article. McConnell, despite his flaws, has been able to get a lot of judicial nominations confirmed, including taking a huge gamble on blocking Merrick Garland's nomination and subsequently getting Neil Gorsuch confirmed to the Supreme Court.

Quote from: National Review
The largest tax reduction in 31 years has contributed to the best economy in 18 years. Defense spending is up, many Dodd-Frank banking rules and the Obamacare individual mandate have been repealed. Drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, blocked for 38 years, has been approved, as has a reconfigured National Labor Relations Board, a source of much Obama-administration mischief. The Congressional Review Act, under which Congress can disapprove many regulations issued by federal agencies, has been used 19 times since it was enacted in 1996 — 18 of them in this Congress.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/mitch-mcconnell-wins-long-game-for-conservatives/
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Lucifer on June 03, 2018, 08:28:17 AM
George Will doesn't acknowledge a few key points here:

 It was President Trump who nominated Gorsuch.

 It's President Trump who is nominating these conservative judges that the senate is confirming.

 It was President Trump who championed and pushed congress and the senate to enact the tax cuts.

 George Will is up to his typical butt hurt over Trump, who he is attempting (lamely I might add) to minimize his role in the accomplishments that have taken place.

 Mitch McConnell does what benefits Mitch McConnell, as he wants (as Trump does) more conservative judges.  McConnell had to be pushed on the tax cuts legislation, and of course McConnell couldn't deliver on Obamacare repeal.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Number7 on June 03, 2018, 12:23:36 PM
The only people ever benefitted from Mitch McConnell’s terms in the US Senate are Mitch and the establishment. He has never acted, thought about, or seriously considered how the rest of the country would be affected by his servitude.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: LevelWing on June 04, 2018, 11:41:29 AM
George Will doesn't acknowledge a few key points here:

 It was President Trump who nominated Gorsuch.

 It's President Trump who is nominating these conservative judges that the senate is confirming.

 It was President Trump who championed and pushed congress and the senate to enact the tax cuts.

 George Will is up to his typical butt hurt over Trump, who he is attempting (lamely I might add) to minimize his role in the accomplishments that have taken place.

 Mitch McConnell does what benefits Mitch McConnell, as he wants (as Trump does) more conservative judges.  McConnell had to be pushed on the tax cuts legislation, and of course McConnell couldn't deliver on Obamacare repeal.
I get that you have an extreme hatred for both George Will and Mitch McConnell but this article wasn't about Trump. Trump received plenty of well deserved praise for nominating Gorsuch and the other judicial nominations. But it's Mitch McConnell that's been ushering them through the Senate, removing barriers to confirmation, and ensuring they're getting confirmed. Why you won't at least acknowledge that is odd.

As with everything else, multiple things can be true. You can disagree with Mitch McConnell on almost anything while at the same time acknowledging that he's done a good job ensuring Trump's nominees get confirmed.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Lucifer on June 04, 2018, 12:00:26 PM
I get that you have an extreme hatred for both George Will and Mitch McConnell but this article wasn't about Trump. Trump received plenty of well deserved praise for nominating Gorsuch and the other judicial nominations. But it's Mitch McConnell that's been ushering them through the Senate, removing barriers to confirmation, and ensuring they're getting confirmed. Why you won't at least acknowledge that is odd.

As with everything else, multiple things can be true. You can disagree with Mitch McConnell on almost anything while at the same time acknowledging that he's done a good job ensuring Trump's nominees get confirmed.

 George Will is trying to remain relevant, that's all this article is for.  His slight in trying to give Mitch McConnell credit when the facts are there was someone else driving the train, and McConnell was only assisting.  Mitch McConnell is part of the establishment and that's another reason Will is fawning over him.

 Yep, I don't give a rat's ass about George Will or the other phony conservatives such as Bill Kristol.  Their true colors came out in 2016 when they firmly got behind establishment republicans and George Will even tried to tell us that 4 years of Hillary as president wouldn't be so bad.   What a fuckin' buffoon.

 Again, McConnell is only serving his interest and not that of the country at large.  While McConnell has had an interest in the judiciary appointing conservative judges, he has also dragged his feet on other important issues that doesn't meet with the ideology of the establishment.

 And McConnell is toast in Kentucky with dismal poll numbers among voters.  Hopefully he will be gone when his term runs out.



Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Steingar on June 05, 2018, 12:32:10 PM
Someday the GOP will control the Executive and the Dems the Legislative.  The POTUS will nominate someone to the SCOTUS and the Dems will say no.  They'll say it has to wait until the next election, no matter how far away it is.  You watch, it will happen.  It will become the new normal.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Number7 on June 05, 2018, 12:33:40 PM
Someday the GOP will control the Executive and the Dems the Legislative.  The POTUS will nominate someone to the SCOTUS and the Dems will say no.  They'll say it has to wait until the next election, no matter how far away it is.  You watch, it will happen.  It will become the new normal.

There are days I wonder if you are really only ten years old.

The dems did that long before it came up under the traitor obama.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Lucifer on June 05, 2018, 05:01:07 PM
There are days I wonder if you are really only ten years old.

The dems did that long before it came up under the traitor obama.

 Yea, but it takes reading a history book to discover such things.   I doubt the perfesser has ever cracked open a history book.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Steingar on June 06, 2018, 08:30:54 AM
The dems did that long before it came up under the traitor obama.

At what point?
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Lucifer on June 06, 2018, 09:16:35 AM
Quote
NBC Meet the Press’ Chuck Todd said there’s a degree of hypocrisy to the Democrats’ assertion that the Republicans have a constitutional duty to have hearings and vote on President Barack Obama’s Supreme Court nominee.

Senate Republicans have declared that they will not even hold hearings on Obama’s pick, Merrick Garland, chief judge of the federal court of appeals for the D.C. Circuit. Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has argued that Republicans’ behavior is a dereliction of the Senate’s constitutional duty to "advise and consent" the president on his nominee.

But on Meet the Press, Todd presented Reid with a clip from 2005, in which Reid said, "Nowhere in that document (the Constitution) does it say the Senate has a duty to give presidential nominees a vote."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/20/harry-reid/harry-reid-says-unlike-gop-senate-democrats-never-/
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Lucifer on June 06, 2018, 09:20:01 AM
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/02/16/chuck-schumer-supreme-court-nomination-president-sot-erin.cnn/video/playlists/supreme-court-justice-antonin-scalia-dead/
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Steingar on June 06, 2018, 09:30:49 AM
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/02/16/chuck-schumer-supreme-court-nomination-president-sot-erin.cnn/video/playlists/supreme-court-justice-antonin-scalia-dead/

Bush nominees John Roberts and Samuel Alito serve on the bench today. 
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Lucifer on June 06, 2018, 09:35:01 AM
Bush nominees John Roberts and Samuel Alito serve on the bench today.

 I know you have a problem with reading comprehension, please go read, very slowly.  Perhaps one of your students can help you out with the big words.

Also, google has much on the subject.  Seriously, it's not that difficult to use.  Again, get one of your students to help you.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Steingar on June 07, 2018, 01:13:32 PM
I know you have a problem with reading comprehension, please go read, very slowly.  Perhaps one of your students can help you out with the big words.

Also, google has much on the subject.  Seriously, it's not that difficult to use.  Again, get one of your students to help you.

Try a response with some reality to it.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Lucifer on June 07, 2018, 06:42:03 PM
Try a response with some reality to it.

 You're correct, my apologies.......

 Go find a 12 year old and have them read the articles to you, then they can explain them and help you with your comprehension problems.

 Also have the 12 year old teach you how to use google.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Steingar on June 08, 2018, 07:45:53 AM
Go find a 12 year old and have them read the articles to you, then they can explain them and help you with your comprehension problems.

 Also have the 12 year old teach you how to use google.

Funny, I could've sworn I was talking to one.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Number7 on June 08, 2018, 08:52:06 AM
Funny, I could've sworn I was talking to one.

Only if you're looking in the mirror.

Face it, Mike. You constantly make certain that everyone knows you are uninformed, uncouth and poorly educated, otherwise you wouldn't be so obsessed with trying to paint yourself as the all knowing intellectual.

Try looking up the facts and then parading your communist philosophies, instead of the other way around and see if someone, somewhere starts to take you seriously.
Title: Re: Mitch McConnell is Winning the Long Game
Post by: Lucifer on June 08, 2018, 02:41:48 PM
Funny, I could've sworn I was talking to one.

 For you, anyone with reasonable intelligence (6 years old and up) must really impress you.

 Doesn't the Harvard by the Highway that you teach at provide any reading comprehension courses?  I suggest you look into it.

 You're welcome.