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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Jaybird180 on March 27, 2016, 04:59:58 PM

Title: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: Jaybird180 on March 27, 2016, 04:59:58 PM
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Was the administration ever serious about Clemency 2014? The rules for commutation requests even reaching the overburdened pardons office under the initiative are inexcusably discouraging. The worst is that inmates must have served at least 10 years of their sentence. Other rules state they must not have “a significant criminal history” (whatever that means); they must be nonviolent, low-level offenders; and they must be serving a sentence harsher than they would have gotten if convicted of the same offense today. Those who fall “outside of this initiative,” according to the Justice Department (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/announcing-new-clemency-initiative-deputy-attorney-general-james-m-cole-details-broad-new), can still seek clemency under the old rules if their applications are “especially meritorious.”
[/color]The results of this great, unprecedented effort? Obama has a clemency record comparable to the least merciful presidents in history. He has granted just 70 pardons (https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-statistics), the lowest mark for any full-term president since John Adams, and 187 commutations of sentence. Meanwhile, 1,629 pardon petitions have been denied (more than five of the previous six presidents), as well as 8,123 requests for commutations (a new record). An additional 3,444 requests have been “closed without presidential action.”[/size]
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Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: Mase on March 27, 2016, 05:02:39 PM
He isn't done yet.  He's been saving up for next January.
Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: Jaybird180 on March 27, 2016, 05:04:00 PM
He isn't done yet.  He's been saving up for next January.
pfffft...whateva!
Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: Mase on March 27, 2016, 05:06:18 PM
The point is that you can't judge his pardon history, until the history is complete.
Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: nddons on March 27, 2016, 08:24:09 PM
pfffft...whateva!

Pffffft.  That's generally how it works.  Bill Clinton pardoned 140 people on his last day in office, including Weather Underground terrorists. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy
Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: Mase on March 27, 2016, 08:29:18 PM
It will be interesting to see who B.O. pardons in his final effort.  Lot of folks to choose.  Hillary, Lerner, Ooma and the rest of Hillary's crew...
Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 28, 2016, 05:39:29 AM
It will be interesting to see who B.O. pardons in his final effort.  Lot of folks to choose.  Hillary, Lerner, Ooma and the rest of Hillary's crew...

obama is probably trying to figure out how to preemptively pardon hillary's entire administration.
Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: JeffDG on March 28, 2016, 06:43:49 AM
obama is probably trying to figure out how to preemptively pardon hillary's entire administration.
C'mon.  A Hillary administration is not guaranteed yet.  Wait until Trump wins the nomination until you are sure Hillary will be President.
Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: Anthony on March 28, 2016, 09:43:14 AM
Barack Obama is an America hating Fasco-Communist.  Hillary is no better. 
Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 28, 2016, 09:48:00 AM
Barack Obama is an America hating Fasco-Communist.  Hillary is no better.

hillary is no Fasco-Communist, she is just a lying sack of horse manure out for herself.  If the AG had any integrity, hillary would have been indicted already.

Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 31, 2016, 08:18:07 AM
Maybe obama doesn't give out many pardons, but he is a good friend of drug dealers.  Commuting the sentences of 248 drug dealers.  Reportedly, 248 commutations is more than the last six presidents combined.

clarification:  commutation of 248 drug dealers is more than the last six presidents combined.

Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: Mr Pou on March 31, 2016, 08:21:05 AM
Maybe obama doesn't give out many pardons, but he is a good friend of drug dealers.  Commuting the sentences of 248 drug dealers.  Reportedly, 248 commutations is more than the last six presidents combined.

Remember, they all could be his sons....
Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: Anthony on April 07, 2016, 11:24:55 AM
hillary is no Fasco-Communist, she is just a lying sack of horse manure out for herself.  If the AG had any integrity, hillary would have been indicted already.

Well she's uses the ideology to buy votes, but I agree with you. 
Title: Re: On pardons, Obama could go down as one of the most merciless presidents in histo
Post by: Little Joe on April 07, 2016, 02:14:33 PM
Remember, they all could be his sons....
Or his dealers. (from his days as community organizer).