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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on August 04, 2023, 12:20:24 PM

Title: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Lucifer on August 04, 2023, 12:20:24 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/03/obama-once-wrote-to-ex-girlfriend-that-he-repeatedly-fantasizes-about-making-love-to-men-biographer-says/

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Former President Barack Obama once wrote that he fantasized about having sexual relations with other men, biographer David Garrow said in an interview published on Wednesday.

The former president expressed his fantasies in a letter to a girlfriend at the time, Garrow told Tablet magazine in the interview. That letter has been redacted and is currently in the possession of Emory University, according to Garrow.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Lucifer on August 04, 2023, 12:21:20 PM
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/history/articles/david-garrow-interview-obama
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Username on August 04, 2023, 12:32:31 PM
There's little doubt that he does that already
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 04, 2023, 12:51:41 PM
He should have supported Trump.

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Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Rush on August 04, 2023, 12:57:40 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/03/obama-once-wrote-to-ex-girlfriend-that-he-repeatedly-fantasizes-about-making-love-to-men-biographer-says/

Who is Alex?
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 05, 2023, 07:03:48 AM
He should have supported Trump.

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President Trump works and takes the slings and arrows of outrageous deep state attacks and malicious libel for Americans. He’s always made this clear. “My only special interest is you.” Not illegals. Americans. And that is his job.

I’ve seen many images of President Trump with signs of support from different groups in the background and at rallies: Blacks, Latinos, Women, Catholics, and so on.

Indeed, as many people who feel marginalized and powerless and persecuted see the scourges of endless attack President Trump is enduring, their affinity for him grows.

All that said, I could never be President because I’d not have stood there with a flag that glorified and symbolized sexualization of the poop hole and the mutilation of healthy bodies and the sexual grooming of children. But I can see where a libertarian would, because liberty. Yet I’d use my liberty to denounce it, and do so herewith.

I think President Trump probably was uncomfortable with that flag, especially now after the horrific display of hedonistic debauchery the faux president allowed at the White House, and the galloping insanity of public displays all over the country. That picture is not recent.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Rush on August 05, 2023, 07:14:39 AM
President Trump works and takes the slings and arrows of outrageous deep state attacks and malicious libel for Americans. He’s always made this clear. “My only special interest is you.” Not illegals. Americans. And that is his job.

I’ve seen many images of President Trump with signs of support from different groups in the background and at rallies: Blacks, Latinos, Women, Catholics, and so on.

Indeed, as many people who feel marginalized and powerless and persecuted see the scourges of endless attack President Trump is enduring, their affinity for him grows.

All that said, I could never be President because I’d not have stood there with a flag that glorified and symbolized sexualization of the poop hole and the mutilation of healthy bodies and the sexual grooming of children. But I can see where a libertarian would, because liberty. Yet I’d use my liberty to denounce it, and do so herewith.

I think President Trump probably was uncomfortable with that flag, especially now after the horrific display of hedonistic debauchery the faux president allowed at the White House, and the galloping insanity of public displays all over the country. That picture is not recent.

Years ago when he was president I watched a video about whether he was homophobic and hated gays. The video showed that he was not only not against them, he was positive toward them and helped them for example, get and keep jobs, because what is good for all Americans is also good for gays. He is inclusive of all Americans, full stop.

There was a similar video about whether he was racist against blacks. Same deal, he funded black colleges, promoted community projects and so on.

I can’t remember who did those videos but they showed the lies of the left and the media that Trump “hates gays” and “is racist”.

And it is true that was before the radical LBTQwhatever activists became violent and hostile.  Trump in no way endorses that and keep in mind that is a minority. Most gays and true trans abhor their behavior.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Number7 on August 05, 2023, 10:53:26 AM
The left has no real issues to attack us on so they stick with their old, pathetic lies.

Republicans are racist, bigots and homophobes because,… because,,, because they disagreed with our religious mantra!
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Bamaflyer on August 05, 2023, 06:51:22 PM
Miss old Joan Rivers! Joan said this back in 2014:

CNN) -- Who needs Fourth of July fireworks when you have Joan Rivers around?
The comedian known for her lack of self-censoring recently officiated a same-sex wedding and was asked by a photographer if she believed the United States would ever see the first gay or female president. Her response was typical Rivers.

"We already have it with Obama, so let's just calm down," she said. "You know Michelle (Obama) is a trans."
When asked to further explain Rivers said, "A transgender. We all know it."
A representative for Rivers released the following statement to CNN from the comic about her remarks to the photographer:
"I think it's a compliment. She's so attractive, tall, with a beautiful body, great face, does great makeup. Take a look and go back to La Cage Au Follies (sic). The most gorgeous women are transgender. Stop it already ... and if you want to talk about 'politically correct,' I think this is a 'politically incorrect' attack on me because I'm old, Jewish, a woman and a 'hetty' -- a heteosexual ... and I plan to sue the reporter who, when he turned off his camera, tried to touch me inappropriately on the a** - luckily he hit my ankle. Read the book ... if you think that's silly, wait to (sic) you see what I say about FDR and Eleanor!"

Rivers is no stranger to controversy. In March 2013 she refused to apologize for a joke she made about the dress "Project Runway" host Heidi Klum wore to the Academy Awards.
"The last time a German looked this hot was when they were pushing Jews into the ovens," Rivers said while appearing on the E! channel's "Fashion Police" show.
The Anti-Defamation League slammed Rivers, calling the remark "vulgar and hideous," but she said it was her way of getting people to talk.
"It's a joke, No. 1. No. 2 it is about the Holocaust," she told HLN's "Showbiz Tonight. "This is the way I remind people about the Holocaust. I do it through humor."
Of course, this latest dust-up coincides with Rivers' book, "Diary of a Mad Diva," which was released on July 1. Rivers' representative told CNN, "These are all funny jokes. The book is hysterical. The prologue says if anyone takes anything in the book seriously (he or she) is an idiot. And (Rivers) says if anyone has a problem with that, they can feel free to call her lawyer Clarence Darrow."



What does Barack Obama call illegal aliens? Undocumented democrats.

Barack Obama is on a sinking ship, who gets saved? The Country!

Why can't Obama dance? Cause he has two leftist feet.




Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: bflynn on August 06, 2023, 12:57:11 AM
Is he still hanging around?  You should be charging him rent by now don’t you think? 
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Anthony on August 06, 2023, 03:24:26 AM
Is he still hanging around?  You should be charging him rent by now don’t you think?

Obama?  The Chicoms run him and he runs Joe, so still relevant.   You don't know this? But, you're so smart. C'mon Man!
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 11, 2023, 06:24:33 AM
Hahahaha!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/sj3Ii9Z0Zbf8/
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Lucifer on August 11, 2023, 06:46:29 AM
Hahahaha!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/sj3Ii9Z0Zbf8/

  The comments are funny.  The libturds claiming it's not a real video, all fake.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Bamaflyer on August 11, 2023, 08:08:14 AM
Hahahaha!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/sj3Ii9Z0Zbf8/

Love it! 🤣
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Rush on August 11, 2023, 08:24:15 AM
  The comments are funny.  The libturds claiming it's not a real video, all fake.

They might be right.  It’s still funny.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-chant-obama/fact-check-anti-biden-chant-digitally-added-to-obama-rally-footage-idUSL1N31W1C7
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Lucifer on August 11, 2023, 08:32:12 AM
They might be right.  It’s still funny.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-chant-obama/fact-check-anti-biden-chant-digitally-added-to-obama-rally-footage-idUSL1N31W1C7

  Fact checkers are jokes.   These "fact checkers" are employed by the lunatic liberal media to steer narratives.  They have tried to make "fact checker" sound official as if the person is of authority.   Hell, we have people "fact checking" jokes now.  ::)

  Back to the video.  I haven't taken the time to go look as I simply don't care.  There are plenty of videos of various venues that have the crowds chanting Fuck Joe Biden that the media desperately wants censored.

 81 million votes my ass.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Rush on August 11, 2023, 10:30:21 AM
  Fact checkers are jokes.   These "fact checkers" are employed by the lunatic liberal media to steer narratives.  They have tried to make "fact checker" sound official as if the person is of authority.   Hell, we have people "fact checking" jokes now.  ::)

  Back to the video.  I haven't taken the time to go look as I simply don't care.  There are plenty of videos of various venues that have the crowds chanting Fuck Joe Biden that the media desperately wants censored.

 81 million votes my ass.

That is correct, starting with the original one where the reporter very deliberately reported it as “Let’s go Brandon” when the crowd was clearly shouting Fuck Joe Biden.  I did watch the original of this one and I believe the correction is correct.  But you do have to mistrust fact checkers.  Particularly Snopes.  The Twitter community notes are more trustworthy since Elon took over, I don’t know if that one was done before or after Elon took over.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Number7 on August 11, 2023, 10:33:03 AM
The fucktard couple who own snopes are about as big a joke as it gets.

Their truth reporting percentage is almost as bad as cnn and msnbc.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Lucifer on August 12, 2023, 07:21:08 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12401225/Barack-Obamas-gay-sex-fantasy-confession.html

Barack Obama's gay sex fantasy confession is revealed in unredacted letter to ex: 'I make love to men daily, in the imagination'
Obama, then 21, wrote to Alex McNear in November 1982, with whom he had been in a relationship during his time at Occidental College in Los Angeles


He delved into the topic of homosexuality and confessed that he 'loves making love to men daily, but in the imagination,' according to the redacted letter

He described homosexuality as a way to detach from the present and potentially evade the recurring theatrics of earthly existence

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Former President Barack Obama's gay sex fantasy has been revealed in a newly-redacted 1982 letter to his ex girlfriend.

Obama, then 21, wrote to Alex McNear in November 1982, with whom he had been in a relationship during his time at Occidental College in Los Angeles.

He delved into the topic of homosexuality and confessed that he 'loves making love to men daily, but in the imagination,' according to the previously-redacted portion of the letter, which was obtained by the New York Post. 

Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 12, 2023, 07:51:50 PM
Unclear why Obama's sexual fantasies are relevant to anything.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Anthony on August 13, 2023, 03:49:40 AM
Unclear why Obama's sexual fantasies are relevant to anything.

The Chinese and WEF types run Obama, Biden, the Democrats and Establishment Republicans.  Obama is still relevant.  Revealing he is a deviant freak speaks volumes.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Rush on August 13, 2023, 05:26:49 AM
The Chinese and WEF types run Obama, Biden, the Democrats and Establishment Republicans.  Obama is still relevant.  Revealing he is a deviant freak speaks volumes.

Um, deviant freak?  Jordan Peterson says normal people fantasize all kinds of stuff. The deviant freaks are the ones that actually do it.  Even then I don’t consider homosexuality that deviant or freaky.  Deviant and freaky would be trying to have sex with the London Bridge or your pet Poodle or being into chopping people’s heads off.

Anyway I agree with Jim, it isn’t anybody’s business.  He was an idiot to write it down and send it to somebody and I disapprove of whoever outed it to the public.  It was a private communication about deeply personal matters and the girlfriend (I forget who he sent it to) was a traitor not to keep it under wraps. She should have destroyed it.

Don’t get me wrong, I can’t stand Obama. But right is right and wrong is wrong and she did him wrong.

It does sound like he’s a closet gay, but in our generation that was what you had to do. Being openly gay hurt you in many careers, certainly politics.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Username on August 13, 2023, 08:20:51 AM
It does sound like he’s a closet gay, but in our generation that was what you had to do. Being openly gay hurt you in many careers, certainly politics.
If it was revealed that Obama was gay in 2008 he certainly would never have made it through a primary.  The black vote would have gone to someone else "not Bush".  If was revealed after the primary and before the general election, I think a large portion of the black vote would have stayed home rather than vote for him.  They still would not have voted for McCain, but that might have pushed it in McCain's favor.

How far we've fallen.  Someone could come out as a kiddie diddler and be celebrated.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Rush on August 13, 2023, 08:43:57 AM
If it was revealed that Obama was gay in 2008 he certainly would never have made it through a primary.  The black vote would have gone to someone else "not Bush".  If was revealed after the primary and before the general election, I think a large portion of the black vote would have stayed home rather than vote for him.  They still would not have voted for McCain, but that might have pushed it in McCain's favor.

How far we've fallen.  Someone could come out as a kiddie diddler and be celebrated.

Exactly. Things have changed a great deal in the blink of an eye.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Lucifer on August 13, 2023, 08:46:50 AM
If it was revealed that Obama was gay in 2008 he certainly would never have made it through a primary.  The black vote would have gone to someone else "not Bush".  If was revealed after the primary and before the general election, I think a large portion of the black vote would have stayed home rather than vote for him.  They still would not have voted for McCain, but that might have pushed it in McCain's favor.

How far we've fallen.  Someone could come out as a kiddie diddler and be celebrated.

  Well, we now have a guy in the WH, that use to take showers with his teenage daughter.  And it got so bad she would wait until late night to shower hoping daddy had gone to sleep.  Then she found out daddy put in a motion detector so he would know when the daughter was showering.  (this is documented in Ashley Biden's diary and has never been disputed)

 Also, the same pervert when VP would parade around naked in front of female SS agents assigned to him.  It got so bad the SS put out a memo that female agents were never to be alone around the VP in the residence.  (again, documented and not disputed)

  And never mind the pictures on Hunter's laptop of him and his underage niece.   If you or I had in our possession such pictures we could be charged with child pornography.

  Back to Bath House Barry.  His gay tendencies extend well beyond fantasies.  He's had several "assistants" over the years keeping him company.  The latest mystery about the death of his chef at Martha's Vineyard only adds to what most people already know about him.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: elwood blues on August 13, 2023, 09:04:41 AM
Anyway I agree with Jim, it isn’t anybody’s business.

False.  It's very much our business when he wants to be our ruler.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Rush on August 13, 2023, 09:11:02 AM
False.  It's very much our business when he wants to be our ruler.

Fantasies inside his head?  No.  Actual behavior, YES.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 13, 2023, 09:32:30 AM
Instinctively I recoiled from BHO. Forced myself to listen to a couple of TV speeches, eventually just turned off radio when he came on. Couldn’t stand his voice, mannerisms or word choices. He phoned it all in. Not a bit of personal  passion. Never once while he was in office did I feel he truly was the one leading this country. The shadow handlers were in place and operating. Nor do I think he is handling Biden from the shadows. Both Obama and his wife are too lazy and unintelligent to be any sort of mastermind. They are mere figureheads and celebrities given to the D masses to worship who knows why, just because they exist. Did nothing except let the country slide into ruin. The fact that he might be gay is a giant snooze and no surprise at all. He acts effeminate.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 13, 2023, 09:38:59 AM
False.  It's very much our business when he wants to be our ruler.

He already was president for 8 years.  Kinda late to discuss it now.  Other than policies on things like same-sex marriage (which he indicated support for a long time ago) I can't see the relevance even then.

If Obama had been presenting himself as anti-gay or anything along those lines during his past campaigns it would have been reasonable to call him out on his double-standard if his fantasies had been exposed then.  But as an avowed liberal it was pretty clear to the electorate what his policy would entail with regard to gays and lesbians, so no affect on his policies.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Username on August 13, 2023, 09:40:35 AM
Fantasies inside his head?  No.  Actual behavior, YES.
I'm not so sure.  But perhaps I'm misunderstanding the conversation here.  I would be OK with an openly gay president.  So what?  I don't go that way and the thought of sex with another guy to me is revolting.  But if someone else wants to, whatever.  If someone is otherwise competent and qualified to do the job, who or what they have sex with (as long as it's consensual) is none of my business.  Just keep private stuff private and don't expect me to celebrate it.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Lucifer on August 13, 2023, 10:23:11 AM
He already was president for 8 years.  Kinda late to discuss it now.  Other than policies on things like same-sex marriage (which he indicated support for a long time ago) I can't see the relevance even then.

If Obama had been presenting himself as anti-gay or anything along those lines during his past campaigns it would have been reasonable to call him out on his double-standard if his fantasies had been exposed then.  But as an avowed liberal it was pretty clear to the electorate what his policy would entail with regard to gays and lesbians, so no affect on his policies.

https://apnews.com/united-states-government-general-news-63f51fcd69bb4ce18ed6b7306d1b3c89

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/10/obama-frustrated-same-sex-marriage-david-axelrod-book

Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Rush on August 13, 2023, 10:29:21 AM
I'm not so sure.  But perhaps I'm misunderstanding the conversation here.  I would be OK with an openly gay president.  So what?  I don't go that way and the thought of sex with another guy to me is revolting.  But if someone else wants to, whatever.  If someone is otherwise competent and qualified to do the job, who or what they have sex with (as long as it's consensual) is none of my business.  Just keep private stuff private and don't expect me to celebrate it.

This is my position as far as being gay. But when I said behavior would matter, I meant acting on any fantasy.  Suppose for example you fantasize about diddling kiddies but never once in your life do it or in any way creep on minors or ever view or possess any CP.  By your behavior no one would ever guess you had such fantasies. That would be nobody’s business. If you think it’s our business then you must be in favor of developing mind reading technology so we can determine people’s private unspoken, un-acted upon thoughts.

But people’s actions do matter, a great deal.  Kiddy diddling is illegal and morally reprehensible so we would reject a president for doing that or for even simply possessing CP. That’s an act, it feeds the industry. We should also reject him for taking bribes *eh-hem*.  But not for fantasizing about taking bribes.

Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Rush on August 13, 2023, 10:34:23 AM
Instinctively I recoiled from BHO. Forced myself to listen to a couple of TV speeches, eventually just turned off radio when he came on. Couldn’t stand his voice, mannerisms or word choices. He phoned it all in. Not a bit of personal  passion. Never once while he was in office did I feel he truly was the one leading this country. The shadow handlers were in place and operating. Nor do I think he is handling Biden from the shadows. Both Obama and his wife are too lazy and unintelligent to be any sort of mastermind. They are mere figureheads and celebrities given to the D masses to worship who knows why, just because they exist. Did nothing except let the country slide into ruin. The fact that he might be gay is a giant snooze and no surprise at all. He acts effeminate.

I too had a visceral reaction of disgust toward him from the start. It had nothing to do with him being effeminate or having been to bathhouses or having done cocaine or being half black. It was because he was a fake intellectual and an arrogant ass.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Number7 on August 13, 2023, 10:58:26 AM
He already was president for 8 years.  Kinda late to discuss it now.  Other than policies on things like same-sex marriage (which he indicated support for a long time ago) I can't see the relevance even then.

It is. Dry relevant, since the media went to such lengths to suppress discussion of his lifestyle and anytime his parentage, or his marriage to big mike came up it was, and is still suppressed, just like some people know how damaging such confirmation would, could, might be to the communist party that called itself the democrats.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: elwood blues on August 13, 2023, 11:06:28 AM
When you're the president, you don't get to have a private life.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Lucifer on August 13, 2023, 11:10:57 AM
When you're the president, you don't get to have a private life.

  Unless you are BHO, then you can have everything sealed in your past.  ;)
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Rush on August 13, 2023, 11:17:16 AM
It is. Dry relevant, since the media went to such lengths to suppress discussion of his lifestyle and anytime his parentage, or his marriage to big mike came up it was, and is still suppressed, just like some people know how damaging such confirmation would, could, might be to the communist party that called itself the democrats.

They did suppress everything, including the fact that he was born in Kenya.

That’s much more relevant than his sexual fantasies.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Anthony on August 13, 2023, 04:26:06 PM
It's just my opinion but I believe Obama has the money, power and connections to act on his fantasies. He's scum.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 13, 2023, 04:49:07 PM
It's just my opinion but I believe Obama has the money, power and connections to act on his fantasies. He's scum.

A lumberjack doesn't need any of that - just dress up in women's clothing and hang around in bars.
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Anthony on August 13, 2023, 05:11:41 PM
A lumberjack doesn't need any of that - just dress up in women's clothing and hang around in bars.

And Spam.....
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Username on August 13, 2023, 05:12:30 PM
And Spam.....
But what if he comes at you with a pointed stick?
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 13, 2023, 09:09:56 PM
But what if he comes at you with a pointed stick?
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Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 14, 2023, 05:39:39 PM
Title: Re: Obama Fantasies
Post by: Rush on August 15, 2023, 03:54:53 AM
LOL “Mutiny of pre-verts.”