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Title: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: nddons on January 31, 2022, 07:24:18 PM
https://worldwarwings.com/thunderbird-and-mustang-takeoff-hear-the-difference/
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Rush on January 31, 2022, 07:55:38 PM
Nostalgia for a war I wouldn’t have wanted to live through. Cognitive dissonance. It’s about the airplanes.
Title: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: nddons on January 31, 2022, 09:15:06 PM
Nostalgia for a war I wouldn’t have wanted to live through. Cognitive dissonance. It’s about the airplanes.
My dad was a TSgt in the 368th FG, which was a Thunderbolt group. He landed on Omaha Beach on D+1 and they established and protected the first Allied air field on the continent at Cardonville (Near Pointe du Hoc) and it was operational by 10 June.

http://368thfightergroup.com/

As the front moved east, they moved east establishing bases closer to Germany. He was cut off outside of St. Vith during the Bulge.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Anthony on February 01, 2022, 06:01:08 AM
My dad was a TSgt in the 368th FG, which was a Thunderbolt group. He landed on Omaha Beach on D+1 and they established and protected the first Allied air field on the continent at Cardonville (Near Pointe du Hoc) and it was operational by 10 June.

http://368thfightergroup.com/

As the front moved east, they moved east establishing bases closer to Germany. He was cut off outside of St. Vith during the Bulge.

Very cool Stan.  Our parents witnessed real history.  We have the computer.   ::)
 
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Rush on February 01, 2022, 06:30:56 AM
Very cool Stan.  Our parents witnessed real history.  We have the computer.   ::)
 

Yep. My parents were the greatest generation. My grandparents handled the First World War. My generation got to witness Vietnam. Half of us were forced to go fight a mismanaged losing mess and the other half accused the first half of being baby killers.

The current crop is going to be much worse. Raised without facial recognition, impaired language and social development, chronic germophobia, permanently installed in front of smart phones, unable to absorb information in depth by reading a book, but thinking they are expert in everything because they googled it.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Anthony on February 01, 2022, 06:36:11 AM
Yep. My parents were the greatest generation. My grandparents handled the First World War. My generation got to witness Vietnam. Half of us were forced to go fight a mismanaged losing mess and the other half accused the first half of being baby killers.

The current crop is going to be much worse. Raised without facial recognition, impaired language and social development, chronic germophobia, permanently installed in front of smart phones, unable to absorb information in depth by reading a book, but thinking they are expert in everything because they googled it.

Good summary Rush.  Spot on. 

When I lived in Lexington, KY I flew into KGKT because they had two flying P-47s there.  Cool museum.

https://www.tnairmuseum.com
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: nddons on February 01, 2022, 08:04:26 AM
Yep. My parents were the greatest generation. My grandparents handled the First World War. My generation got to witness Vietnam. Half of us were forced to go fight a mismanaged losing mess and the other half accused the first half of being baby killers.

The current crop is going to be much worse. Raised without facial recognition, impaired language and social development, chronic germophobia, permanently installed in front of smart phones, unable to absorb information in depth by reading a book, but thinking they are expert in everything because they googled it.
You aren’t much older than me, Rush, but yes, while we witnessed Vietnam, it was through the lens of being a kid. For me, I saw war scenes on the news seemingly every night. I thought war would be a constant every day for the rest of my life. When my dad and I watched the Army Navy game, I literally thought it was cool that soldiers came back from Vietnam to play football.  I saw my second cousin come back in a glass covered casket; Airborne parachuting accident.  I saw soldiers at O’Hare airport.  I was 13 when the war ended, and I thought for sure I would be in the next war until the draft ended. 5 years after Vietnam I signed up for Selective Service like all 18 year old boys.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Mr Pou on February 01, 2022, 08:13:00 AM
You aren’t much older than me, Rush, but yes, while we witnessed Vietnam, it was through the lens of being a kid. For me, I saw war scenes on the news seemingly every night.

Ditto, the war was a daily staple on the evening news as a kid growing up, and I too registered for the draft and was damned glad the war was over when I did. Not that it stopped me, I did enter the Navy a few years later.

NAVY:

Never
Again
Volunteer
Yourself
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Rush on February 01, 2022, 08:44:06 AM
Yep, war on the news every night, with count of dead American boys. Made a huge impression on me as a kid, could not figure out why the hell we were going over there to die. And with no win at the end. My male friends registered for the draft but it ended before any of them got sent over.

The other thing I grew up with was the Cold War. Watching the “duck and cover” film in elementary school in the early 60s and believing nuclear war was inevitable. I had a kind of nihilistic attitude because if that. It took decades, until Reagan really, before I no longer thought we’d all be wiped out by nukes. Now, this year, it’s back again, because Democrat cheaters put that monstrous Biden administration in place.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Username on February 01, 2022, 09:17:41 AM
Yep.  Lots of duck and cover drills.  We were all amused as the classes were mostly military brats and knew it was pretty much useless.  The family watched the Vietnam war on the news every night.  Cousin went, was wounded, but came back mostly whole.  Signed up for the draft at 18, and classified 1H.  Four years of high school ROTC and one year of college ROTC convinced me that I wasn't a leader and would probably get a lot of men killed.  Went computer science and supported the military industrial complex with my taxes.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 01, 2022, 09:47:03 AM
Had my draft physical in 1971. Based on that, I enlisted in the Air Force and put in my four years. Never actually left the States.  Basic training at Lackland AFB, Technical Training at Shephard AFB, 2.5 years at Gila Bend AAF and the last year at McDill AFB.

BTW, draft law lapsed in 71 and was not renewed that year, my number never came up.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Little Joe on February 01, 2022, 10:44:04 AM
I was included in the 2nd year of the Vietnam lottery.  My number was 131.  I think they drew up to 125 or so that year.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Rush on February 01, 2022, 12:17:51 PM
My husband’s number was 35.  He joined the Air Force ROTC in college and thought he’d be able to join that branch if they called him up but I think they ended it his first year in college. 
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Bamaflyer on April 28, 2022, 04:33:43 PM
Enlisted in the AF in ‘67 but never got to ‘Nam, Germany and S. Korea instead along with temporary assignments to a few exciting places, like the desert in Egypt. When Reagan fired the controllers went to Quonset Point Airport RI to work the tower there. Had some buddies working Boston approach control and couple in Miami. Missed out on Granada but guys in our unit operated the tower there. Actually two teams. One would be in Granada for 3 days, then the other team would copter in from Barbados to relieve them. Rough duty, 5 star hotel too in Barbados. I went to RI a second time instead.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Rush on April 28, 2022, 05:13:46 PM
Yep, war on the news every night, with count of dead American boys. Made a huge impression on me as a kid, could not figure out why the hell we were going over there to die. And with no win at the end. My male friends registered for the draft but it ended before any of them got sent over.

The other thing I grew up with was the Cold War. Watching the “duck and cover” film in elementary school in the early 60s and believing nuclear war was inevitable. I had a kind of nihilistic attitude because if that. It took decades, until Reagan really, before I no longer thought we’d all be wiped out by nukes. Now, this year, it’s back again, because Democrat cheaters put that monstrous Biden administration in place.

Wait… I made that post February 1, BEFORE February 24.  Boy that sure went fast.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Rush on April 28, 2022, 05:14:46 PM
Enlisted in the AF in ‘67 but never got to ‘Nam, Germany and S. Korea instead along with temporary assignments to a few exciting places, like the desert in Egypt. When Reagan fired the controllers went to Quonset Point Airport RI to work the tower there. Had some buddies working Boston approach control and couple in Miami. Missed out on Granada but guys in our unit operated the tower there. Actually two teams. One would be in Granada for 3 days, then the other team would copter in from Barbados to relieve them. Rough duty, 5 star hotel too in Barbados. I went to RI a second time instead.

The desert in Egypt is exciting? 
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Bamaflyer on April 28, 2022, 05:20:16 PM
Wonderful beach. 😏
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: nddons on April 28, 2022, 06:24:11 PM
Wait… I made that post February 1, BEFORE February 24.  Boy that sure went fast.
Madness.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: nddons on April 28, 2022, 06:24:17 PM
Wait… I made that post February 1, BEFORE February 24.  Boy that sure went fast.
Madness.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: nddons on April 28, 2022, 06:24:21 PM
Wait… I made that post February 1, BEFORE February 24.  Boy that sure went fast.
Madness.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 28, 2022, 10:39:51 PM
Madness.

You can say that again.
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Anthony on April 29, 2022, 03:47:09 AM
You can say that again.

And again...
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: Anthony on April 29, 2022, 03:47:31 AM
And again...
Title: Re: We need more Thunderbolts at OSH
Post by: nddons on April 29, 2022, 10:12:57 PM
Lol.  Damned Tapatalk.