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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: PaulS on December 09, 2016, 09:24:28 PM

Title: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: PaulS on December 09, 2016, 09:24:28 PM
Or did they,  sounds like fake news to me, but the MSM is running with it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.97c02dc6c5f3
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: ShamaLamaDingDong on December 09, 2016, 10:21:57 PM
shamalamadingdongski!



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Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Anthony on December 10, 2016, 08:01:10 AM
Of course the Dems/MSM is running with it.  First it was the re-count, now it is the Russian hacking that won Trump the election. Keep spewing lies Dems/MSM, the people have spoken an are IGNORING YOU finally!
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Little Joe on December 10, 2016, 11:51:57 AM
shamalamadingdongski!



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I have never put anyone on ignore (for more than a day or so), but this might prove the exception.
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Lucifer on December 10, 2016, 11:55:00 AM
I have never put anyone on ignore (for more than a day or so), but this might prove the exception.

More than likely a PoA member who thinks he's a comedian.

I agree, it gets old.
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Little Joe on December 10, 2016, 11:56:49 AM
Obama has ordered a thorough investigation into Russian hacking of the DNC.

I don't recall him (publicly) ordering similar investigations into the hacking of the Pentagon, the stock exchanges, nuclear power plants or any other hack attacks.  The reason is most likely that we are the best and most prolific hackers in the world, so we sort of have to put up with it when they return the favor.

But let them hack the DNC and that is a different story.  And why would the Russians hack the Dems anyway?  Aren't they the ones that wanted to "reset" relations with Russia after "W" got everyone mad at us?  Wasn't the Dem's plan to "be nice" to them supposed to make them like us?  Just like the terrorists?

Could there have possibly been something wrong with "the plan"?
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: PaulS on December 10, 2016, 12:07:35 PM
Meh, the way I look at it is that if the Russians are responsible, it happened on Obama's watch, thanks Obama.
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Anthony on December 10, 2016, 12:17:41 PM
Well, they tried a re-count, and that didn't work.  Now, they are claiming the Russians hacked the systems, and that is why Trump won.  They are definitely the worst losers I have ever seen since Al Gore. 

Get over it Democrats!  YOU LOST!
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: jtheune on December 11, 2016, 05:35:53 AM
so let me get this straight.  Russians hacks the DNC and released information that was found in the DNC files and never disputed by the DNC and that is a bad thing?
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on December 11, 2016, 05:52:02 AM
so let me get this straight.  Russians hacks the DNC and released information that was found in the DNC files and never disputed by the DNC and that is a bad thing?

Yep.

And the DNC can make up stuff about republicans, and that's okay dokey.

Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Number7 on December 11, 2016, 08:00:58 AM
I suspect that Barack Obama will blame man made global warming next.
Anythoing to avoid taking the blame for decimating their party in the last eight years.
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Anthony on December 11, 2016, 08:15:19 AM
I suspect that Barack Obama will blame man made global warming next.
Anythoing to avoid taking the blame for decimating their party in the last eight years.

No, they think their party, and their policies are just fine.  It's the vast Right Wing Conspiracy that is to blame.  Yes, Man Made Global Warming (Climate Change) does cause terrorism, and all of the world's ills.   

Judge Jeanine has a good take on it.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5243495074001/?#sp=show-clips
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on December 11, 2016, 11:24:27 AM
More than likely a PoA member who thinks he's a comedian.

I agree, it gets old.

I heard that 6PC pulled the red handle on POA.
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Mase on December 11, 2016, 12:28:17 PM
I heard that 6PC pulled the red handle on POA.

Why?
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on December 11, 2016, 02:14:19 PM
Why?
people were being cryptic about it. Supposedly announced on purple board.
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 11, 2016, 03:29:08 PM
He's been on the PB now and then.  Posted last week when he had a guy that works for him not come to work and not call.
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Lucifer on December 11, 2016, 03:44:44 PM
I heard that 6PC pulled the red handle on POA.

 Kindergarten humor and dick fascination doesn't really fit in an aviation forum.
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Witmo on December 11, 2016, 05:46:59 PM
Of course the Dems/MSM is running with it.  First it was the re-count, now it is the Russian hacking that won Trump the election. Keep spewing lies Dems/MSM, the people have spoken an are IGNORING YOU finally!

I've only seen reports that the CIA has concluded that Russia has attempted to affect an American election through hacking.  Did they say Trump won the election through the actions of Russian hackers?  Some Americans claim millions of votes were cast fraudulently.  Does a recount not potentially provide proof of such widespread fraud?  As far as I can see, recounts have only confirmed the fact that Trump legitimately won the election.  Why do some criticize?

Do you know what a lie is?  Please quote me the lies of which you speak.  Saying that evidence suggests Russia attempted to meddle in an American election is not the same as saying "Russian hacking responsible for Trump victory"  Do you know the difference or do you make crap up as you go along as a rule?
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 11, 2016, 06:16:38 PM
My read on this is that DNC thinks Russian hackers fed incriminating emails from within DNC to Wikileaks and that these Wikileaks-published DNC emails turned voters away from HRC. DNC is not denying accuracy or legitimacy of said leaked emails. Assange of Wikileaks denies the information published came from Russia.
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Witmo on December 11, 2016, 07:05:54 PM
My read on this is that DNC thinks Russian hackers fed incriminating emails from within DNC to Wikileaks and that these Wikileaks-published DNC emails turned voters away from HRC. DNC is not denying accuracy or legitimacy of said leaked emails. Assange of Wikileaks denies the information published came from Russia.
The DNC can "think" whatever they want.  The question is what proof the CIA thinks it has that implicates Russian state sponsored meddling into American politics. I trust bi-partisan officials with the appropriate clearances to collectively review the evidence and determine WTF is going on and craft a response. The effect of the alleged meddling can be debated til the cows come home.  My concern is whether or not Putin put his two cents into an American election, not necessarily what those two cents bought.  I accept that DT is now the legitimate P-elect of USA.  I am very concerned that Russia may think they can interfere with US politics through hacking in future elections if they monkeyed around with the last one regardless of how effective or ineffective they were.

I am concerned when the Pres-elect dismisses out of hand what the intelligence agencies come up with.  I don't credit the US intel community with 100% accuracy  but we spend billions on intel and their findings should be looked at critically before being acted on or rejected.
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Mase on December 11, 2016, 07:45:56 PM
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Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 11, 2016, 08:17:18 PM
The DNC can "think" whatever they want.  The question is what proof the CIA thinks it has that implicates Russian state sponsored meddling into American politics. I trust bi-partisan officials with the appropriate clearances to collectively review the evidence and determine WTF is going on and craft a response. The effect of the alleged meddling can be debated til the cows come home.  My concern is whether or not Putin put his two cents into an American election, not necessarily what those two cents bought.  I accept that DT is now the legitimate P-elect of USA.  I am very concerned that Russia may think they can interfere with US politics through hacking in future elections if they monkeyed around with the last one regardless of how effective or ineffective they were.

I am concerned when the Pres-elect dismisses out of hand what the intelligence agencies come up with.  I don't credit the US intel community with 100% accuracy  but we spend billions on intel and their findings should be looked at critically before being acted on or rejected.
I certainly agree there is concern. I googled a bit about this and it seems the CIA report is extremely vague. We will have to see how much further they take it. There is a committee being formed to look into it. In my googling I also saw that O ignored CIA reports about ISIS and its formation early on ... because the CIA reports didn't fit his political agenda.  Also saw that massive efforts by a number of agencies were underway for months to protect this election.
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 11, 2016, 08:19:22 PM
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Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: Number7 on December 12, 2016, 10:08:43 AM
people were being cryptic about it. Supposedly announced on purple board.

What a soap opera that board has turned into.
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on December 12, 2016, 11:26:33 AM
What a soap opera that board has turned into.

Apparently he's back. I don't have access to PB "spin zone."
Title: Re: Russian hacks helped Trump
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on December 12, 2016, 01:06:58 PM
Apparently he's back. I don't have access to PB "spin zone."

I guess he was channeling Captain.  ya know, annoucing he's leaving, coming back, announcing he's leaving, coming back.