PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on December 05, 2023, 05:36:13 AM
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https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/12/fbi-held-catholic-family-at-gunpoint-over-15-year-olds-memes-report/
Bold part: blatant entrapment
The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) reportedly held a Catholic family at gunpoint and locked them in a van after a 15-year-old Catholic boy posted “offensive memes” online earlier this year.
According to American Greatness, the 15-year-old boy’s father, Jeremiah Rufini, claimed the family was “dragged out of their home at gunpoint, handcuffed and locked in a van” earlier this year after FBI agents “goaded” the boy to post “offensive memes” online. Rufini claimed that his son, who is an altar boy and a volunteer firefighter, was later hospitalized on the pretense of mental health.
American Greatness reported that while the FBI’s investigation into the 15-year-old Catholic boy only resulted in a misdemeanor conviction for breaching of peace, the family was left with devastating legal expenses.
In a GiveSendGo crowdfunding post that has since been unpublished, Rufini claimed that the FBI targeted his son as part of an undercover operation that targets Catholic teenagers with “extreme political content.”
Rufini explained that the issue began earlier this year when the boy had to start caring for his 93-year-old grandmother during the day while he was home-schooled.
“It was a very stressful time, compounded by several unrelated deaths in the family that happened in the same time period,” Rufini wrote. “None of our children, including my son, had been raised with cell phones or unrestricted internet access. It became necessary for him to have a phone so we could communicate while he was alone at my father’s house caring for my grandmother, and so we reluctantly allowed him to have a cell phone.”
According to Rufini, the cell phone eventually became a “welcome distraction” for his son, who had lots of free time while helping take care of his elderly grandmother. Due to the 15-year-old’s interest in theology and history, Rufini said he soon was led down a “rabbit hole” where he ended up engaging in group chats that were targeting Catholic individuals with “extreme political content.”
“We later learned that these chats were being closely monitored, and possibly operated by, FBI agents as part of an effort to investigate traditional Catholics that was downstream of a broader domestic investigation spurred by the events of January 6th,” Rufini stated.
Rufini explained that the family had “no idea” that the 15-year-old boy was engaging in the online chat groups. While the family remained unaware of his actions, Rufini said his son was eventually “goaded” into actions such as taking pictures of himself wearing ski masks and printing out memes to be left in public.
According to Rufini, the people in the online chat groups asked his son if he had access to weapons and prompted him to post photos of guns online. Eventually, Rufini said his son had an “attack of conscience” and quickly deleted all of the chat group apps on his phone, which led to the FBI’s investigation.
While the boy’s father expressed his displeasure with his son’s actions and acknowledged that the boy demonstrated “a severe lack of judgement,” he argued that the actions of the FBI “seemed very disproportionate.”
American Greatness shared a statement from CatholicVote Vice President Joshua Mercer, who indicated that it is not yet clear what the FBI accused the 15-year-old of doing. Mercer said that unless the boy was “engaging in real terroristic activities,” the FBI would not seem to have a “justification” for sending agents to “SWAT-team” the Catholic family’s house.
In his fundraising post on GiveSendGo, Rufini explained that the legal process cost his family more than $20,000. The fundraiser initially had a goal of $22,000 but was able to raise over $31,000 before it was unpublished by the family.
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The biggest crime syndicate in American history is the current fbi and their boss, biden the communist traitor.
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Why the reference them being Catholic other than to slur Christians?
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Why the reference them being Catholic other than to slur Christians?
Yep. They want to plant the idea in the public’s mind that “Catholic” equals “terrorist”. It is a classic propaganda technique.
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Yep. They want to plant the idea in the public’s mind that “Catholic” equals “terrorist”. It is a classic propaganda technique.
Substitute the word “Jew” and the decade of the 1930s and you’re getting the same effect.
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https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/12/fbi-held-catholic-family-at-gunpoint-over-15-year-olds-memes-report/
Bold part: blatant entrapment
Not to nitpick, but it’s “Altar boys. Alter boys are what Riley Gaines is fighting against. ;)
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Not to nitpick, but it’s “Altar boys. Alter boys are what Riley Gaines is fighting against. ;)
Doh!
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Not to nitpick, but it’s “Altar boys. Alter boys are what Riley Gaines is fighting against. ;)
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The Fascists also don't like this;
while he was home-schooled.
So Christians that home school are now targeted as domestic terrorists. Got it.
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The Fascists also don't like this;
So Christians that home school are now targeted as domestic terrorists. Got it.
Yep. I’m sure they have lists of all homeschoolers and are watching them. I’m not being hyperbolic.
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I'm surprised Biden's DOE has not tried to ban home schooling nationwide yet.
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I'm surprised Biden's DOE has not tried to ban home schooling nationwide yet.
I wouldn't support banning home-schooling. But I have seen some tragic results from idiots trying to home-school their kids. Namely my ex-SIL and my four nephews, along with a few others. My nephews spent more time going shopping with their mother and playing video games than studying.
On the other hand, I have seen some terrific results too. Personally I would like to see the home-schoolers take on that job part-time when the kids come home from the other school. Socialization and structure are important parts of education.
I'm not sure how I would feel about giving home schooled kids some sort of progress testing, even if it is voluntary.
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I wouldn't support banning home-schooling. But I have seen some tragic results from idiots trying to home-school their kids. Namely my ex-SIL and my four nephews, along with a few others. My nephews spent more time going shopping with their mother and playing video games than studying.
On the other hand, I have seen some terrific results too. Personally I would like to see the home-schoolers take on that job part-time when the kids come home from the other school. Socialization and structure are important parts of education.
I'm not sure how I would feel about giving home schooled kids some sort of progress testing, even if it is voluntary.
My cousin homeschools his 2 youngest. Him and his wife are the idiots parents. His wife is too lazy to wake up in the morning to get them to school on time and likes the fact she can take them to Florida over the winter while she lays by her mom's pool and does nothing all day.
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You can teach your kid in 2 hours what it takes the public school all day.
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You can teach your kid in 2 hours what it takes the public school all day.
But how will they learn the "proper" social justice attitude and what gender they are?
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The Fascists also don't like this;
So Christians that home school are now targeted as domestic terrorists. Got it.
Well because they willfully evaded indoctrination sessions.
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You can teach your kid in 2 hours what it takes the public school all day.
Perhaps you can, or I could if I had kids. But there are a lot of idiots out there that it would take years for the kids to unlearn the crap they learned from home schooling.
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There are FAR more idiots teaching and administrating public schools.
Children are way better off taking their chances with homeschooling than with the utter bullshit that passes for education these days.
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Perhaps you can, or I could if I had kids. But there are a lot of idiots out there that it would take years for the kids to unlearn the crap they learned from home schooling.
I'm not sure what kind of crap you're talking about. Is it worse than capitalism is evil, America was founded on racism, if you're a male everything bad is your fault, and you can choose your gender?
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I'm not sure what kind of crap you're talking about. Is it worse than capitalism is evil, America was founded on racism, if you're a male everything bad is your fault, and you can choose your gender?
You are right. I said that wrong.
The problem isn't unlearning the crap they learned.
The problem is that some parents are stupid and not teaching kids what they need to know. When the kids get older, it gets harder for them to learn the things they should have learned as a kid.
In theory, educated teachers would be more qualified to teach kids the basics (what used to be called the 3-Rs). Today it goes much further than that. And I don't think enough parents are qualified to be teachers. But that doesn't ignore the fact that too many teachers are either ignorant or teaching the wrong things either. However I don't lay the blame on the teachers, but rather the system.
I'd hate to be a kid, or have kids today.
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You are right. I said that wrong.
The problem isn't unlearning the crap they learned.
The problem is that some parents are stupid and not teaching kids what they need to know. When the kids get older, it gets harder for them to learn the things they should have learned as a kid.
In theory, educated teachers would be more qualified to teach kids the basics (what used to be called the 3-Rs). Today it goes much further than that. And I don't think enough parents are qualified to be teachers. But that doesn't ignore the fact that too many teachers are either ignorant or teaching the wrong things either. However I don't lay the blame on the teachers, but rather the system.
I'd hate to be a kid, or have kids today.
I see what you mean, although I don’t necessarily agree parents aren’t qualified to teach their kids. The problem is someone needs to be at home to do it, in the early years. Later, the kids can teach themselves, you just give them the materials and hold them accountable to it.
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I see what you mean, although I don’t necessarily agree parents aren’t qualified to teach their kids. The problem is someone needs to be at home to do it, in the early years. Later, the kids can teach themselves, you just give them the materials and hold them accountable to it.
Parents need to first teach good study habits. They will need that for the rest of their lives.
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Parents need to first teach good study habits. They will need that for the rest of their lives.
True however it is also genetic. Study habits require the ability to delay gratification. The inability to delay gratification is associated with certain personality disorders and also with low IQ. Not all people are born to become good academics. One of the biggest mistakes this country made is assuming all children should go to college and therefore all public school emphasizes preparation for college, NOT life skills such as managing household finances, navigating insurance and legal matters, how to build wealth, how to avoid society’s pitfalls, and most important, trade skills.
By pushing everyone to college we’ve created a disaster of student loan debt, and people with worthless degrees, or people who flunked out because they were never built for higher learning in the first place. And that doesn’t even begin to address the damage done by indoctrinating all college students into Marxism.
But nevertheless we do need to teach all children basic literacy and basic math. It doesn’t seem like the public schools are doing a good job of this.
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I wouldn't support banning home-schooling. But I have seen some tragic results from idiots trying to home-school their kids. Namely my ex-SIL and my four nephews, along with a few others. My nephews spent more time going shopping with their mother and playing video games than studying.
On the other hand, I have seen some terrific results too. Personally I would like to see the home-schoolers take on that job part-time when the kids come home from the other school. Socialization and structure are important parts of education.
I'm not sure how I would feel about giving home schooled kids some sort of progress testing, even if it is voluntary.
They do have such testing, and I know for my two nephews it was voluntary. Maybe it depends on the state. My brother and his wife home schooled their boys until high school. They blew the doors off the SAT and got into some good universities.
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They do have such testing, and I know for my two nephews it was voluntary.
I suspect that is the case (voluntary). Which of course the lazy parents will not volunteer.
Maybe it depends on the state.
Which is as it should be.
My brother and his wife home schooled their boys until high school. They blew the doors off the SAT and got into some good universities.
I fully acknowledge that some parents do a great job. I can't say whether "some" means "most" or "a few". I have seen both, but in my experience, I have not been impressed with "most", but I have been amazed by the results of some. My current (vicarious) experience is withthe people that bought our Veterinary Clinic. The wife is the Doctor and Medical director. The husband is the practice manager and the "wife and mother". He takes care of the house and the kids. I have little respect for him as a man. We gave him a tree as a house warming present, but he had no shovel and no idea how to plant a tree, so I planted it for him.
But he is home schooling his two kids and he is doing a fabulous job. The youngest (a girl) is doing 5th grade work in 2nd grade and the 5th grade boy is turning out to be the smartest little sissy (not that there is anything wrong with that) I have ever seen. But he works around 2 or 3 hours a day at the clinic and spend ALL the rest of his time with the kids.
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They do have such testing, and I know for my two nephews it was voluntary. Maybe it depends on the state. My brother and his wife home schooled their boys until high school. They blew the doors off the SAT and got into some good universities.
It does depend on the state.