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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 22, 2020, 11:04:34 AM

Title: sign language interpreters
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 22, 2020, 11:04:34 AM
Any else seeing sign language interpreters not wearing masks when they are up there doing sign language during press briefings?

Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: Anthony on May 22, 2020, 11:07:03 AM
Any else seeing sign language interpreters not wearing masks when they are up there doing sign language during press briefings?

Yes, but the entire signing thing is ridiculous and distracting.  More effing Virtue Signaling.  I am so sick of it. 
Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on May 22, 2020, 08:00:15 PM
Yes, but the entire signing thing is ridiculous and distracting.  More effing Virtue Signaling.  I am so sick of it.

We have this new thing called "Closed Caption."
Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: Little Joe on May 23, 2020, 05:14:18 AM
Any else seeing sign language interpreters not wearing masks when they are up there doing sign language during press briefings?
They can't wear a mask.  Part of signing is to mouth the words for people that lip read.  Being deaf is a bitch already.  Trying to understand what someone is saying when they are wearing a mask makes it much worse.  Ask me how I know.
Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 23, 2020, 05:25:08 AM
They can't wear a mask.  Part of signing is to mouth the words for people that lip read.  Being deaf is a bitch already.  Trying to understand what someone is saying when they are wearing a mask makes it much worse.  Ask me how I know.

Actually I do understand a bit about lip reading and hearing loss.

I probably should have added that the hearing impaired would likely have difficulty seeing the guy's mouth given the quality of the video.
Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 26, 2020, 10:19:26 AM
They can't wear a mask.  Part of signing is to mouth the words for people that lip read.  Being deaf is a bitch already.  Trying to understand what someone is saying when they are wearing a mask makes it much worse.  Ask me how I know.

I would expect that a beard and mustache really hinders lip reading (I'm currently watching a briefing with one of those...)
Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: Little Joe on May 26, 2020, 11:12:02 AM
I would expect that a beard and mustache really hinders lip reading (I'm currently watching a briefing with one of those...)
Your'e right.  It does.  I hate talking to people with thick beards and mustaches.  I get mumbling with no visual cues.
Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 26, 2020, 11:15:53 AM
Your'e right.  It does.  I hate talking to people with thick beards and mustaches.  I get mumbling with no visual cues.

It's kind of ironic.  I've seen two different people doing the sign language for the governor's briefings.  One doesn't have the mask (but has a mustache and beard) and the other is a woman but wears a mask.

Maybe ironic isn't the right word, but hey, I were a engineer before I retired.
Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: Lucifer on May 26, 2020, 11:18:46 AM


Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: Little Joe on May 26, 2020, 11:24:44 AM
Personally, I always thought those signers were kind of ridiculous anyway and largely for show.

But they are not necessarily just for the hard of hearing.  That is just one aspect.  Signing is not just a way to represent English words with signs.  Signing is pretty much it's own language.  A signer can can communicate with people that can hear perfectly well but don't understand English (or whatever language the signer is interpreting).  So lip reading is not that important for everyone.  Just for the hard of hearing.
Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: Lucifer on May 26, 2020, 11:30:47 AM
Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: nddons on May 28, 2020, 07:56:21 AM
It's kind of ironic.  I've seen two different people doing the sign language for the governor's briefings.  One doesn't have the mask (but has a mustache and beard) and the other is a woman but wears a mask.

Maybe ironic isn't the right word, but hey, I were a engineer before I retired.
I’ve also noticed that every woman doing sign language also wears sensible shoes and would fit in perfectly as a dog trainer at dog shows.

Ok, I know I’m a pig, but I’ll bet you’re all laughing too.
Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: nddons on May 28, 2020, 07:57:54 AM
Personally, I always thought those signers were kind of ridiculous anyway and largely for show.

But they are not necessarily just for the hard of hearing.  That is just one aspect.  Signing is not just a way to represent English words with signs.  Signing is pretty much it's own language.  A signer can can communicate with people that can hear perfectly well but don't understand English (or whatever language the signer is interpreting).  So lip reading is not that important for everyone.  Just for the hard of hearing.
I’m too lazy to look for it, but I swear I remember a signer who was signing for an Obama speech in come foreign country, and he was doing all kinds of crazy gyrations. Turns out he wasn’t an official signer at all. 
Title: Re: sign language interpreters
Post by: Anthony on May 28, 2020, 08:17:18 AM
I’m too lazy to look for it, but I swear I remember a signer who was signing for an Obama speech in come foreign country, and he was doing all kinds of crazy gyrations. Turns out he wasn’t an official signer at all.

Yes, that actually happened, but I don't remember where and when.  Oh wait.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/sign-language-interpreter-who-stood-next-to-obama-at-mandela-memorial-called-a-fake

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A man who stood close to President Barack Obama and other heads of state while providing sign language interpretation at Nelson Mandela’s memorial Tuesday was a “fake” who was making up his own gestures, sign language experts say, raising questions about the security at the event.


"[He] was moving his hands around, but there was no meaning in what he used his hands for," Bruno Druchen, the Deaf Federation of South Africa’s national director, told The Associated Press Wednesday.

The country’s deaf community and the ruling African National Congress have no knowledge of who the man actually is, despite him appearing on television gesticulating alongside South African President Jacob Zuma last year, Reuters reported. Zuma’s office is trying to figure out the man's identity.

"I don't know this guy. He doesn't work for the ANC. It was a government event. Ask them," ANC spokesman Jackson Mthembu said.

U.S. Secret Service Spokesman Brian Leary told FoxNews.com on Wednesday that the department is aware of the matter, but declined to elaborate.

It was at that criminal and murderer Mandela's memorial service.   Effing Commie stooge.