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Title: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Rush on October 06, 2022, 08:46:27 AM
Russell Brand is not a conservative by a long shot.  He leans more left than right.  But he is open minded and interviews people on all sides of the political spectrum.  So because he isn't a megaphone for woke left orthodoxy, he is now being censored and probably considered a "right wing extremist".  He is moving to Rumble and says he will have upcoming interviews with Donald and Bernie (last names to be revealed later).  Well if they aren't Trump and Sanders I will be mad at him for trolling me.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/russell-brand-leaves-youtube-for-rumble-after-censorship-complaint
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Anthony on October 07, 2022, 02:19:57 AM
Bill Maher has been going down the same path.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 02, 2023, 10:35:12 AM
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Rush on August 02, 2023, 11:03:02 AM
Thank you, I sent that to my phone to listen to while I do housework.

Done.  Very good discussion.  They are on the same page.  Brand is a leftist and Tucker is a conservative but at the end Tucker said the ideal governing system is at the smallest local level and I’ve heard Brand say that a dozen times.  They’re both anti authoritarian.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 02, 2023, 02:22:56 PM
Thank you, I sent that to my phone to listen to while I do housework.

Done.  Very good discussion.  They are on the same page.  Brand is a leftist and Tucker is a conservative but at the end Tucker said the ideal governing system is at the smallest local level and I’ve heard Brand say that a dozen times.  They’re both anti authoritarian.
As it should be. I don't believe the founding fathers could have ever envisioned a Federal Government as big as we have today.  They wanted a part time legislature as many states have, not full time forever politicians. Politicians should have to rely on a business of some sort to exist and not the salary and massive benefits package they enjoy today.

I don't know how we get there, but we need to.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Rush on August 02, 2023, 02:45:26 PM
As it should be. I don't believe the founding fathers could have ever envisioned a Federal Government as big as we have today.  They wanted a part time legislature as many states have, not full time forever politicians. Politicians should have to rely on a business of some sort to exist and not the salary and massive benefits package they enjoy today.

I don't know how we get there, but we need to.

How do you get rid of a giant, malignant, multi-tendriled cancer that has advanced technology and unlimited funds to maintain itself against “the people”?
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Lucifer on August 02, 2023, 02:51:53 PM
How do you get rid of a giant, malignant, multi-tendriled cancer that has advanced technology and unlimited funds to maintain itself against “the people”?

The founders gave us a way, Article V convention of states.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Rush on August 02, 2023, 03:11:49 PM
The founders gave us a way, Article V convention of states.

That and if that fails, war.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Lucifer on August 02, 2023, 03:38:08 PM
That and if that fails, war.

WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.
          We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness—-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 02, 2023, 04:37:24 PM
...unalienable Rights, that among these are Life...
Life requires food, water, clothing and shelter so that means government should provide them.
Not my line of reasoning or one I agree with, but I've seen similar.  The meaning of "rights" appears to have been altered by a lot of people to allow that kind of argument to appear valid.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Anthony on August 02, 2023, 04:53:42 PM
That and if that fails, war.

That's where I think we'll eventually go. The political process has broken down.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Anthony on August 02, 2023, 04:58:44 PM
WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.
          We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness—-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


Better words were never written. Pursuit of happiness, not guarantee of happiness, which wouldn't create happiness anyway. You must work for something to value it. That's the human condition and why Equity, Socialism, Communism won't work.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 02, 2023, 05:21:45 PM
I, also, believe it will take a revolution to turn things around.  Say Texas chose to secede, what happens with the big cities that are Liberal?   


I have no faith that Trump, Ramaswamy, DeSantis or any Republican could turn it around. The swamp is too deeply entrenched at this point.  Obama did a damn good job of getting that accomplished while we were all asleep at the wheel.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Lucifer on August 02, 2023, 05:28:02 PM
Life requires food, water, clothing and shelter so that means government should provide them.
Not my line of reasoning or one I agree with, but I've seen similar.  The meaning of "rights" appears to have been altered by a lot of people to allow that kind of argument to appear valid.

Thanks Cliff
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 02, 2023, 09:35:02 PM
Speaking of Tucker, he did this interview with Devon Archer within the last day.

Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 02, 2023, 09:51:59 PM
Joe Biden would not need to have received any money because acting on behalf of Hunter who receives anything of value is specifically against the law:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/201 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/201)
18 U.S. Code § 201 - Bribery of public officials and witnesses
...
(2)being a public official or person selected to be a public official, directly or indirectly, corruptly demands, seeks, receives, accepts, or agrees to receive or accept anything of value personally or for any other person or entity, in return for:
(A) being influenced in the performance of any official act;

Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Rush on August 03, 2023, 04:20:41 AM
Joe Biden would not need to have received any money because acting on behalf of Hunter who receives anything of value is specifically against the law:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/201 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/201)
18 U.S. Code § 201 - Bribery of public officials and witnesses
...
(2)being a public official or person selected to be a public official, directly or indirectly, corruptly demands, seeks, receives, accepts, or agrees to receive or accept anything of value personally or for any other person or entity, in return for:
(A) being influenced in the performance of any official act;


Wow, that’s way more cut and dry than Trump “inciting insurrection”.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Username on August 03, 2023, 05:29:41 AM
Life requires food, water, clothing and shelter so that means government should provide them.
Not my line of reasoning or one I agree with, but I've seen similar.  The meaning of "rights" appears to have been altered by a lot of people to allow that kind of argument to appear valid.
Exactly.  Rights are given by God and not by the government.  Yes, we have a right to food, water, clothing, and shelter.  And the government can't take those away.  It is not the government's function to provide those things.  Most leftists (and many on the Right) do not understand that the Constitution and Bill of Rights do not grant rights.  They outline what the government can NOT do.  For example, it's not a Constitutional right to free speech.  We already have that right, granted by God.  We have a Constitution that says the government can't take that right away.  A very important difference. 
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Rush on August 03, 2023, 05:41:36 AM
Exactly.  Rights are given by God and not by the government.  Yes, we have a right to food, water, clothing, and shelter.  And the government can't take those away.  It is not the government's function to provide those things.  Most leftists (and many on the Right) do not understand that the Constitution and Bill of Rights do not grant rights.  They outline what the government can NOT do.  For example, it's not a Constitutional right to free speech.  We already have that right, granted by God.  We have a Constitution that says the government can't take that right away.  A very important difference.

We have God given right to life, to defend our life, to use our faculties to survive, including obtaining food and property and to defend those with lethal force if necessary.  Government has no rights, certainly no right to take our property and give to to someone who didn’t earn it.

Even a petty looter stealing small items from Walmart is violating the property rights of others. It is taking pieces of life from those who own and work at the store.  Therefore it is reasonable to defend against looting with lethal force. Yet the blue shitholes are decriminalizing it and the employees are forbidden from interfering with the looting.  Thus ultimately destroying the store, the livelihoods of its employees and the ability for the community to access the goods sold there.

Conclusion: Looters should be shot on sight. It would only take one of two and the problem would stop.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Mase on August 03, 2023, 11:26:46 AM
"Looters will be shot on sight."  -  Richard J. Daley(D), Chicago Mayor, 1968.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Anthony on August 03, 2023, 12:03:13 PM
Thank you, I sent that to my phone to listen to while I do housework.

Done.  Very good discussion.  They are on the same page.  Brand is a leftist and Tucker is a conservative but at the end Tucker said the ideal governing system is at the smallest local level and I’ve heard Brand say that a dozen times.  They’re both anti authoritarian.

More and more it is Authoritarian "elites" vs. Non-authoritian people.  It's no longer left vs right. The Authoritarian Elite use big Government and big corporations to do their dirty work for them. The People are buying guns and ammunition at sustained record rates.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Username on August 03, 2023, 12:52:12 PM
More and more it is Authoritarian "elites" vs. Non-authoritian people.  It's no longer left vs right. The Authoritariani Elite use big Government and big corporations to do their dirty work for them. The People are buying guns and ammunition at sustained record rates.
That's a neat way to put it.  The Bourgeoisie are at the top.  Below them lives the Proletariat.  The Bourgeoisie split the Proletariat into left and right (or by color or by wealth... whatever works) to keep them at each other's throats and to distract them from what the Bourgeoisie are doing.  They have government to keep the Proletariat from doing too much harm to each other and to give some illusion of order.  Must keep the means of production moving.  Of course the government is blissfully ignorant that they are actually controlled by the Bourgeoisie.

I'm beginning to think everything is hopeless.  Yes, we can individually improve (slightly) our own lot in life.  We can vote our guy in or the other guy out.  We can riot and take over government and install something better. Or worse.  But ultimately it's all hopeless as we can never displace the Bourgeoisie.

I picked the wrong week to give up sugar.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 03, 2023, 01:39:28 PM
I picked the wrong week to give up sugar.
You are correct. I just read your post whilst finishing the last of a carton of ice cream. It did dull a bit how upset I am about the situation you describe.

Yes, I ate from the carton. But I finished the carton. So I remain civilized.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Rush on August 03, 2023, 03:04:07 PM
You are correct. I just read your post whilst finishing the last of a carton of ice cream. It did dull a bit how upset I am about the situation you describe.

Yes, I ate from the carton. But I finished the carton. So I remain civilized.

Dammit. Now I want ice cream.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: jb1842 on August 03, 2023, 03:08:24 PM
I had an ice cream sandwich this afternoon.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 03, 2023, 03:17:29 PM
Dammit. Now I want ice cream.

To be fair, pretty much anything will make you want ice cream, right?   ;-)
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 03, 2023, 05:14:02 PM
Dammit. Now I want ice cream.
My ice cream is a Dove Mini 6g of carbs.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 03, 2023, 05:21:36 PM
My ice cream is a Dove Mini 6g of carbs.
Pretty sure that’ll be ineffective against the existential angst. Might need two.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Anthony on August 04, 2023, 03:17:57 AM
I can't buy it, as I'll eat only that until it's gone.
Title: Re: Russell Brand censored
Post by: Rush on August 04, 2023, 04:10:26 AM
I had an ice cream sandwich this afternoon.

I made an ice cream sandwich on pixel planet.