PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Old Crow on September 18, 2023, 05:52:43 AM
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Here in New Hampshire the liquor stores are owned and run by the state. I've lived here since 1986 and never felt good about that. The commissioner in charge of the liquor stores has a lot of power in this state from the money generated. Now Chicago wants to do the same thing with food instead of taking care of the real problem.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/chicago-mayor-considers-creating-city-owned-grocery-store-walmart-whole-foods-close-stores-city
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what could go wrong?
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In communist countries typically the groceries are government owned and controlled. Or the other version they are owned "privately", but the owner has close relations with the communist government.
Chicago has to be some of the stupidest people in our country to keep voting in failure after failure. The people in these blue shithole cities wonder why everything is so bad, yet keep voting democrat.
At least it appears NYC is starting to see how bad democrats really are.
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When I first read about Chicago thinking about opening government owned grocery stories, I thought about the pictures in our first grade "weekly reader". Pictures of people lined up outside of Russian grocery stores waiting to get in to buy whatever is left in the bare shelves. Later, I thought that was all just propoganda, but I have come around to thinking that is how government grocery stores are going to be.
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When I first read about Chicago thinking about opening government owned grocery stories, I thought about the pictures in our first grade "weekly reader". Pictures of people lined up outside of Russian grocery stores waiting to get in to buy whatever is left in the bare shelves. Later, I thought that was all just propoganda, but I have come around to thinking that is how government grocery stores are going to be.
And the echoes of Animal Farm aren't far behind. Then only certain people will have access to certain goods. All pigs are equal, but some pigs are more equal than others; if I remember the book correctly.
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Here in New Hampshire the liquor stores are owned and run by the state. I've lived here since 1986 and never felt good about that. The commissioner in charge of the liquor stores has a lot of power in this state from the money generated. Now Chicago wants to do the same thing with food instead of taking care of the real problem.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/chicago-mayor-considers-creating-city-owned-grocery-store-walmart-whole-foods-close-stores-city
PA also has state run liquor stores. They suck. The selection is bad and thr prices are higher than neighboring states. The PLCB has a lot of power and is totally Democrat.
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PA also has state run liquor stores. They suck. The selection is bad and thr prices are higher than neighboring states. The PLCB has a lot of power and is totally Democrat.
Profit motive, competition. That’s what works. Thomas Sowell wrote a whole book about it: Economics 101. Should be required reading in schools and any government bureaucrat or elected official should be required to read it and pass a test on it.
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PA also has state run liquor stores. They suck. The selection is bad and thr prices are higher than neighboring states. The PLCB has a lot of power and is totally Democrat.
And it's just a coincidence they were still open when private businesses were shut down.
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And it's just a coincidence they were still open when private businesses were shut down.
Yep, effing government.
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And it's just a coincidence they were still open when private businesses were shut down.
That was actually correct. Alcoholics can’t quit cold turkey. You risk seizures and death.
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Here in New Hampshire the liquor stores are owned and run by the state. I've lived here since 1986 and never felt good about that. The commissioner in charge of the liquor stores has a lot of power in this state from the money generated. Now Chicago wants to do the same thing with food instead of taking care of the real problem.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/chicago-mayor-considers-creating-city-owned-grocery-store-walmart-whole-foods-close-stores-city
Alabama has state operated liquor stores but at least allows privately owned as well. State Senators have tried to get the state out of the liquor business but lobbyists won’t have it. State shouldn’t be selling liquor period!
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That was actually correct. Alcoholics can’t quit cold turkey. You risk seizures and death.
Couldn't they seek treatment at a medical facility instead of buying booze?
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Alabama has state operated liquor stores but at least allows privately owned as well. State Senators have tried to get the state out of the liquor business but lobbyists won’t have it. State shouldn’t be selling liquor period!
PA was settled by Quakers. Therefore we had and still have some squirrely "Blue Laws". Of course government used this to confiscate the liquor industry. In recent years, supermarkets can now sell beer and wine with a PLCB license.
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You can't buy alcohol at a store before 1pm on Sunday in Ohio.
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Couldn't they seek treatment at a medical facility instead of buying booze?
And be exposed to all those Covid cases?
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You can't buy alcohol at a store before 1pm on Sunday in Ohio.
Used to be noon in Texas on Sunday but they moved it to 10:00 am.
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And be exposed to all those Covid cases?
I was in the hospital due to internal bleeding at the peak of Covid. I was the ONLY person in my wing and maybe my entire floor. When I arrived at the ER, I had three doctors and four nurses attending to me because they had nothing else to do. The place was eerily EMPTY, a medical Ghost Town.
All procedures and operations were cancelled, and people avoided hospital because they didn't want to get Covid which was sold by Government, the MEDIA, Education and Democrats as the Bubonic Plague.
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I was in the hospital due to internal bleeding at the peak of Covid. I was the ONLY person in my wing and maybe my entire floor. When I arrived at the ER, I had three doctors and four nurses attending to me because they had nothing else to do. The place was eerily EMPTY, a medical Ghost Town.
All procedures and operations were cancelled, and people avoided hospital because they didn't want to get Covid which was sold by Government, the MEIDA, Education and Democrats as the Bubonic Plague.
Yep. I know someone whose mother died because she was afraid to go to the hospital when she had symptoms of a heart attack during Covid. But to be fair there were places where hospitals were overwhelmed. Other places where they were empty. It seemed very location dependent.
I was being kind of tongue in cheek though. ;D
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My state rather wen the other way. When I arrived you could only get booze in a state-sanctioned liquor store. But they've opened up so some (not all) grocery stores. Not as good as other states where anyone can sell booze, but better.
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My state rather wen the other way. When I arrived you could only get booze in a state-sanctioned liquor store. But they've opened up so some (not all) grocery stores. Not as good as other states where anyone can sell booze, but better.
I wonder what the requirements for the grocery store are for them to be allowed to sell alcohol. A certain size? Which would penalize mom and pop. They also must sell healthy vegetables?
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Almost any place can sell beer and wine here: Gas stations, grocery stores, convenience stores, liquor stores.
Many grocery stores also sell liquor, but it is in a separate, attached store. Eg: Winn Dixie Liquor stores are attached to Winn Dixie grocery stores but they have separate entrances/exits and check out registers. I don't think we have any government owned liquor stores.
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I wonder what the requirements for the grocery store are for them to be allowed to sell alcohol. A certain size? Which would penalize mom and pop. They also must sell healthy vegetables?
In PA they have to have a cafe where people can sit down and drink and eat. There also must be single servings of food to purchase in the area of the grocery store CONTROLLED by the PLCB. ::)
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In Illinois (at least where I lived) there was no liquor sales before noon on Sunday. When the grocery stores were finally allowed to sell wine, there were barriers put up to keep people out until noon. Really messed up my shopping flow to get to the back of the store where they kept the pastries.
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And in Wisconsin there will never be recreational or medicinal weed. The legislature is tightly controlled by the Tavern League. Nothing will interfere with their booze sales.
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And in Wisconsin there will never be recreational or medicinal weed. The legislature is tightly controlled by the Tavern League. Nothing will interfere with their booze sales.
And I’m ok with that. Wisconsin has a drinking culture. I’ve seen what has happened in states where weed is sold, and literally nothing good is coming from it.
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And I’m ok with that. Wisconsin has a drinking culture. I’ve seen what has happened in states where weed is sold, and literally nothing good is coming from it.
I saw it in Colorado as I believe that was the first state to legalize Weed. Nothing but Leftist scum moved there because of it. Government, Media, Social Media, Entertainment, Education and Democrats have MAINSTREAMED Weed. I don't have a problem with Weed if it is used responsibly, but people are vaping it all day and night and at work. I see it daily and it saps the initiative out of people. They become lazy, complacent and easily manipulated. That's why Government wants it. These people are more easily subjugated and conform to government's will.
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I saw it in Colorado as I believe that was the first state to legalize Weed. Nothing but Leftist scum moved there because of it. Government, Media, Social Media, Entertainment, Education and Democrats have MAINSTREAMED Weed. I don't have a problem with Weed if it is used responsibly, but people are vaping it all day and night and at work. I see it daily and it saps the initiative out of people. They become lazy, complacent and easily manipulated. That's why Government wants it. These people are more easily subjugated and conform to government's will.
I’m not sure it’s the problem you think it is. Yes, you are seeing it accurately but I wonder if that’s because potheads flock to states that have legalized it. If it were decriminalized on a federal level, legal everywhere, there’d be no reason for pot smokers to concentrate in just a few places.
As for it sapping the initiative out of people, etc., is that chicken or egg? Does pot ruin people or do people who are lazy and screwed up to begin with more likely to use pot?
I don’t dispute what you see. Back in the 70s I saw what became of “potheads”. Most people who smoked it were no worse than occasional users, but some seemed to get addicted to it, and ended up smoking all day every day. Indeed it turned them into useless zombies.
Personally, right now I am not taking a stand on whether or not to legalize it. As a libertarian of course, ideologically I favor complete decriminalizing and no regulation whatsoever. But as a realist I know that’s not going to happen. The government would probably do something like legalize it and then put it under the FDA to regulate it so only the big drug companies can sell it or something like that, like narcotic painkillers.
And I do recognize that piecemeal “legalization” by state is bad because of just what you say. The druggies concentrate there and ruin the place for the normal locals.
I also believe that the worse the economy is, and the more left the country goes, the more “lazy potheads” you’ll get. Because a bad economy causes mental depression and anxiety driving people to drugs, but more important, feeding these people enables them to be lazy. The potheads I knew back in the day had some sort of funding. Daddy was paying for their college or they were living on student loans. Let people get hungry enough to the point of facing starvation, even most of the mentally ill ones will figure out a way to get up off their ass and try to find work.
Our country is too fucked up right now to risk a big move like legalizing pot on the federal level. It might make lefties happy enough to go vote more. Just like this was the wrong time for a big move like revoking RvW. We simply can’t risk anything that will make it harder to kick the current administration the hell out.
So my stand for now is this: Pot legalization is on the back burner. We have far bigger fish to fry. Our biggest problem right now is the Biden administration and the deep state tanking our economy, killing our fossil fuel industries, driving us off an economic cliff, driving us toward a nuclear confrontation with Russia, and allowing a literal invasion on the southern border.
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I think we need to stop the useless, expensive "War on Drugs". The Feds will never decriminalization Weed. It gives them too much power and it prohibits people from owning firearms and if you lie about it on Fed form 4473 you will go to jail if you get caught unless you are a Black, career Felon.
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I think we need to stop the useless, expensive "War on Drugs". The Feds will never decriminalization Weed. It gives them too much power and it prohibits people from owning firearms and if you lie about it on Fed form 4473 you will find go to jail if you get caught unless you are a Black, career Felon.
YES!
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I think we need to stop the useless, expensive "War on Drugs". The Feds will never decriminalization Weed. It gives them too much power and it prohibits people from owning firearms and if you lie about it on Fed form 4473 you will find go to jail if you get caught unless you are a Black, career Felon.
OR the son of a powerful Democrat.
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OR the son of a powerful Democrat.
Yeah. A White career Felon.
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I think we need to stop the useless, expensive "War on Drugs". The Feds will never decriminalization Weed. It gives them too much power and it prohibits people from owning firearms and if you lie about it on Fed form 4473 you will go to jail if you get caught unless you are a Black, career Felon.
Or your last name is Biden.
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I’m not sure it’s the problem you think it is. Yes, you are seeing it accurately but I wonder if that’s because potheads flock to states that have legalized it. If it were decriminalized on a federal level, legal everywhere, there’d be no reason for pot smokers to concentrate in just a few places.
As for it sapping the initiative out of people, etc., is that chicken or egg? Does pot ruin people or do people who are lazy and screwed up to begin with more likely to use pot?
I don’t dispute what you see. Back in the 70s I saw what became of “potheads”. Most people who smoked it were no worse than occasional users, but some seemed to get addicted to it, and ended up smoking all day every day. Indeed it turned them into useless zombies.
Personally, right now I am not taking a stand on whether or not to legalize it. As a libertarian of course, ideologically I favor complete decriminalizing and no regulation whatsoever. But as a realist I know that’s not going to happen. The government would probably do something like legalize it and then put it under the FDA to regulate it so only the big drug companies can sell it or something like that, like narcotic painkillers.
And I do recognize that piecemeal “legalization” by state is bad because of just what you say. The druggies concentrate there and ruin the place for the normal locals.
I also believe that the worse the economy is, and the more left the country goes, the more “lazy potheads” you’ll get. Because a bad economy causes mental depression and anxiety driving people to drugs, but more important, feeding these people enables them to be lazy. The potheads I knew back in the day had some sort of funding. Daddy was paying for their college or they were living on student loans. Let people get hungry enough to the point of facing starvation, even most of the mentally ill ones will figure out a way to get up off their ass and try to find work.
Our country is too fucked up right now to risk a big move like legalizing pot on the federal level. It might make lefties happy enough to go vote more. Just like this was the wrong time for a big move like revoking RvW. We simply can’t risk anything that will make it harder to kick the current administration the hell out.
So my stand for now is this: Pot legalization is on the back burner. We have far bigger fish to fry. Our biggest problem right now is the Biden administration and the deep state tanking our economy, killing our fossil fuel industries, driving us off an economic cliff, driving us toward a nuclear confrontation with Russia, and allowing a literal invasion on the southern border.
The left in Milwaukee and Madison have been using non-binding referendums for pot legalization in the last three election cycles to bring out the losers who otherwise won’t take the time to get out and vote. It has worked.
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I know some very productive people who are smokers, others who are not. The ones who are not, were never productive to begin with. Personally, I'm for it. I've seen too many people with lives ruined over it with bad legislation. We get our panties in a wad over people smoking a plant to alter their brain to feel better for a few hours, but don't bat a eye when people ingest a plant made into a liquid form to alter their brain to feel better. My brother suffers from PTSD from 2 tours in Iraq. Smoking has been the best thing for him to help manage his symptoms and lead a better life. Don't tell me that popping multiple pills a day is better. I take at least 7 pills a day for my back/nerve pain issues, and sometimes they have some serious side effects. I have talked to my multiple doctors about medical marijuana. I may go that route. My meds are grounding me as it is. I think I would rather take a couple hits off a vape pen at night or chew an edible than take all those pills, which are some serious antidepressants that are used off label to treat nerve pain.
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I have no problem with medical or recreational marijuana.
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The left in Milwaukee and Madison have been using non-binding referendums for pot legalization in the last three election cycles to bring out the losers who otherwise won’t take the time to get out and vote. It has worked.
Ugh.
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I know some very productive people who are smokers, others who are not. The ones who are not, were never productive to begin with. Personally, I'm for it. I've seen too many people with lives ruined over it with bad legislation. We get our panties in a wad over people smoking a plant to alter their brain to feel better for a few hours, but don't bat a eye when people ingest a plant made into a liquid form to alter their brain to feel better. My brother suffers from PTSD from 2 tours in Iraq. Smoking has been the best thing for him to help manage his symptoms and lead a better life. Don't tell me that popping multiple pills a day is better. I take at least 7 pills a day for my back/nerve pain issues, and sometimes they have some serious side effects. I have talked to my multiple doctors about medical marijuana. I may go that route. My meds are grounding me as it is. I think I would rather take a couple hits off a vape pen at night or chew an edible than take all those pills, which are some serious antidepressants that are used off label to treat nerve pain.
That's exactly what derailed my pilot certificate. I was nearing my checkride when I had a major back/nerve problem flair up, had to get on several meds for a while, and basically concluded my choice was pilot license or treat my pain adequately. Since my husband had his and I could fly with him all I wanted, I really didn't NEED the certificate and, you really can't be a safe pilot when in severe chronic pain anyway, so it was a no brainer. Other than just being very disappointed that I hadn't achieved the piece of paper.
One of my meds was an antidepressant, did nothing at all for the pain, and I had bad side effects. I went through years trying to find the right treatments. The thing that seems to have really improved it was getting on B12 shots, as well as dietary changes (cutting way down on sugar which is pro-inflammatory) and now I have temporary bouts more than constant all the time pain. The only drug I take for it now is a mild muscle relaxer at bedtime occasionally.
Unfortunately I started getting arthritis real bad, especially the hip so was back on all the drugs for that until the hip replacement. And then the root canal infection, I mean if it's not one thing it's another. Getting old sucks.
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That's exactly what derailed my pilot certificate. I was nearing my checkride when I had a major back/nerve problem flair up, had to get on several meds for a while, and basically concluded my choice was pilot license or treat my pain adequately. Since my husband had his and I could fly with him all I wanted, I really didn't NEED the certificate and, you really can't be a safe pilot when in severe chronic pain anyway, so it was a no brainer. Other than just being very disappointed that I hadn't achieved the piece of paper.
One of my meds was an antidepressant, did nothing at all for the pain, and I had bad side effects. I went through years trying to find the right treatments. The thing that seems to have really improved it was getting on B12 shots, as well as dietary changes (cutting way down on sugar which is pro-inflammatory) and now I have temporary bouts more than constant all the time pain. The only drug I take for it now is a mild muscle relaxer at bedtime occasionally.
Unfortunately I started getting arthritis real bad, especially the hip so was back on all the drugs for that until the hip replacement. And then the root canal infection, I mean if it's not one thing it's another. Getting old sucks.
I was trying to get on ketamine therapy. I think that would be my best option. But workers comp won't cover it and the closest pain clinic that does it is an hour away and would be an all day thing. I don't have anybody who can sit at a hospital for 8 hours once a month while I get the treatment. I'm looking into testosterone therapy replacement right now. If I could do both I think I would be a new man.
Some of the meds mess me up. I'm like a zombie. I don't register stuff. I've almost gotten into a car wreck because I saw the oncoming car but didn't realize it was coming at me and pulled out in front of it. Thank god at the last second he slammed on the brakes and I accelerated. And I don't know how many times I drove to the store and didn't realize I walked into it, or walked once walked into a women's restroom and had no idea where or why I was in there.
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I was trying to get on ketamine therapy. I think that would be my best option. But workers comp won't cover it and the closest pain clinic that does it is an hour away and would be an all day thing. I don't have anybody who can sit at a hospital for 8 hours once a month while I get the treatment. I'm looking into testosterone therapy replacement right now. If I could do both I think I would be a new man.
Some of the meds mess me up. I'm like a zombie. I don't register stuff. I've almost gotten into a car wreck because I saw the oncoming car but didn't realize it was coming at me and pulled out in front of it. Thank god at the last second he slammed on the brakes and I accelerated. And I don't know how many times I drove to the store and didn't realize I walked into it, or walked once walked into a women's restroom and had no idea where or why I was in there.
Re: testosterone, I debated whether to mention that I am on hormone replacement therapy which for women, and the type I'm getting (bio-identical pellets) is estrogen AND testosterone, but of course a much smaller amount of testosterone than they give men or women trying to be trans. Normal women have a tiny bit of testosterone produced by the ovaries and the adrenal glands but, like it does with men, as women age, it declines and in my case had gone to zero.
The hormones taken orally that are synthetically created by the pharmaceutical companies are associated with bad health effects but the bio-identical ones aren't. It's kind of controversial because if you can imagine, mainstream medicine defends the drug company profits. But the hormones have made a HUGE difference in my mood and general quality of life. It's way better than any anti-depressant I ever took. YMMV.
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Re: testosterone, I debated whether to mention that I am on hormone replacement therapy which for women, and the type I'm getting (bio-identical pellets) is estrogen AND testosterone, but of course a much smaller amount of testosterone than they give men or women trying to be trans. Normal women have a tiny bit of testosterone produced by the ovaries and the adrenal glands but, like it does with men, as women age, it declines and in my case had gone to zero.
The hormones taken orally that are synthetically created by the pharmaceutical companies are associated with bad health effects but the bio-identical ones aren't. It's kind of controversial because if you can imagine, mainstream medicine defends the drug company profits. But the hormones have made a HUGE difference in my mood and general quality of life. It's way better than any anti-depressant I ever took. YMMV.
I'm looking into the pellets.
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I have no problem with medical or recreational marijuana.
Neither do I.
It's the scumbags that abuse it that I have a problem with.
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Neither do I.
It's the scumbags that abuse it that I have a problem with.
There’s a difference between young healthy college students abusing it all day while daddy or taxpayer is paying their upkeep, and productive adults using it medicinally or recreationally.
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There’s a difference between young healthy college students abusing it all day while daddy or taxpayer is paying their upkeep, and productive adults using it medicinally or recreationally.
All true.
And while I will admit to using it when I was in college, I was working two jobs most of the time. My parents never paid for my college and I never took a college loan. That is why it took me 7 years to get my 4 year college degree.
But when I have contractors showing up (electricians, landscapers, plumbers etc) that reek of Mary Jane (showing my age I think), I have a problem. Then when they do a half assed job, I have a bigger problem. And when I see people NOT working but staying home sucking on weed, I feel like they are sucking at the trough that I am paying to feed.
Productive adults using it recreationally or medicinally do not qualify for my description of "scumbags that abuse it".
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All true.
And while I will admit to using it when I was in college, I was working two jobs most of the time. My parents never paid for my college and I never took a college loan. That is why it took me 7 years to get my 4 year college degree.
But when I have contractors showing up (electricians, landscapers, plumbers etc) that reek of Mary Jane (showing my age I think), I have a problem. Then when they do a half assed job, I have a bigger problem. And when I see people NOT working but staying home sucking on weed, I feel like they are sucking at the trough that I am paying to feed.
Productive adults using it recreationally or medicinally do not qualify for my description of "scumbags that abuse it".
They call it "Weed" now, and they mostly vape it. Not MJ, Pot, Marijuana, etc.
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All true.
And while I will admit to using it when I was in college, I was working two jobs most of the time. My parents never paid for my college and I never took a college loan. That is why it took me 7 years to get my 4 year college degree.
But when I have contractors showing up (electricians, landscapers, plumbers etc) that reek of Mary Jane (showing my age I think), I have a problem. Then when they do a half assed job, I have a bigger problem. And when I see people NOT working but staying home sucking on weed, I feel like they are sucking at the trough that I am paying to feed.
Productive adults using it recreationally or medicinally do not qualify for my description of "scumbags that abuse it".
Agree with all of that. Hey we had a similar youth. My parents did pay for the first year but after that I paid my way, working long shifts on weekends, and part time jobs during the week. Took six years to get a double major in worthless liberal arts, then continued for 3 more years, to get a BS in Mechanical Engineering. I had to buckle down and study for that one so I did end up getting a $7000 student loan, but was working full time as an engineer as soon as I got out and paid it back, would NEVER expect the taxpayers to bail me out.
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They call it "Weed" now, and they mostly vape it. Not MJ, Pot, Marijuana, etc.
Still love the movie "Reefer Madness"!
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Still love the movie "Reefer Madness"!
Yes!