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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Old Crow on February 02, 2024, 08:26:44 AM

Title: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Old Crow on February 02, 2024, 08:26:44 AM
Reading this keeps giving me flashbacks in history to Hitler's Germany.  Is the USA next in line?
https://www.outkick.com/culture/canada-delays-plans-to-euthanize-people-with-mental-illness
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Anthony on February 02, 2024, 08:31:26 AM
So political enemies can be declared insane and euthanized?
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 02, 2024, 10:06:28 AM
So political enemies can be declared insane and euthanized?
"Suicide is painless. It brings on many changes."
I object to government encouragement of suicide if the Canadian laws do such a thing. If I understand correctly (and I may not,) in Canada assisted suicide is denied to people found mentally ill but the laws would be changed to allow such "help".

I think good old fashioned assassination or imprisonment of political enemies is still the most simple and effective mechanisms preferred by authoritarians.
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Rush on February 02, 2024, 11:23:25 AM
"Suicide is painless. It brings on many changes."
I object to government encouragement of suicide if the Canadian laws do such a thing. If I understand correctly (and I may not,) in Canada assisted suicide is denied to people found mentally ill but the laws would be changed to allow such "help".

I think good old fashioned assassination or imprisonment of political enemies is still the most simple and effective mechanisms preferred by authoritarians.

There’s a big differences between allowing someone to choose assisted suicide and “suiciding” someone against their will which the headline implies.  But an argument can be made that the mentally ill lack the capacity to make such a choice since they are not of sound mind.

The problem here is that taxpayers are made to foot the bill for other people’s individual tragedies (socialized medicine) which then incentivizes getting rid of those who are a burden on the system. It also happens that requiring people to fully support their own survival results in a drastic reduction in many “mental illnesses”.  People are too busy working for their next meal to sit around wallowing in their ADHD, depression, anxiety, addiction etc. 

Get rid of socialism so everyone must work to survive, this becomes a non issue.  The minority of people remaining who actually have severe suicidal desire (I’ve known two), will find a way regardless.  You can’t stop them.  No point criminalizing it.  But implementing a systemic government administered suicide program just guarantees it will be abused, corrupted and misused just like everything else the government does.
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Lucifer on February 02, 2024, 01:18:17 PM
China has mobile “death vans”.  Piss off the state, a white van pulls up in front of your apartment complex, they grab you and put you in, strap you in a chair and give a lethal injection. 
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Rush on February 02, 2024, 02:55:35 PM
China has mobile “death vans”.  Piss off the state, a white van pulls up in front of your apartment complex, they grab you and put you in, strap you in a chair and give a lethal injection.

I’m sure Biden and the regime have wet dreams about having something like that here they can use against “far right extremists”, such as people who want low taxes and a secure border.
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Lucifer on February 02, 2024, 03:14:27 PM
The leftist have used the word “racist” so much it no longer has meaning. 

Remember how they use to call everyone Nazi?   Yea, that was right up to the point they started really liking Nazi policies and ideology.   
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Anthony on February 02, 2024, 05:00:20 PM
The leftist have used the word “racist” so much it no longer has meaning. 

Remember how they use to call everyone Nazi?   Yea, that was right up to the point they started really liking Nazi policies and ideology.

As you know, I've been saying this for a while now. They don't need cattle cars because they can just destroy you with cancel culture and you lose your source of income.
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 03, 2024, 06:18:21 AM
China has mobile “death vans”.  Piss off the state, a white van pulls up in front of your apartment complex, they grab you and put you in, strap you in a chair and give a lethal injection.
Link?
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Number7 on February 03, 2024, 06:36:53 AM
Link?

Inside China's execution conveyor belt: How 'mobile injection vans and firing squads are used to put thousands to death a year' - outstripping capital punishment figures for the rest of the world combined

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13033053/Inside-Chinas-execution-conveyor-belt.html
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 03, 2024, 09:18:34 AM
Inside China's execution conveyor belt: How 'mobile injection vans and firing squads are used to put thousands to death a year' - outstripping capital punishment figures for the rest of the world combined

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13033053/Inside-Chinas-execution-conveyor-belt.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13033053/Inside-Chinas-execution-conveyor-belt.html)
Thanks
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Lucifer on February 03, 2024, 01:35:46 PM
Just remember this next time you hear a leftist loon carry on about how great it is in China, or how we should be like them.
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Rush on February 03, 2024, 02:29:58 PM
Inside China's execution conveyor belt: How 'mobile injection vans and firing squads are used to put thousands to death a year' - outstripping capital punishment figures for the rest of the world combined

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13033053/Inside-Chinas-execution-conveyor-belt.html

I don’t have a problem with them executing the couple that threw two babies out of a 15 story apartment.  But the non-violent crimes?  Bigamy?  So he managed to get two women, maybe ought to give him a high five.  And harvesting organs from them is a huge incentive to seek and find more capital punishment criminals.  A 99.9% conviction rate means many innocents are falsely convicted.  No way in hell in any world is that high a percent of those accused of crimes are actually guilty in reality.  That implies a near perfect initial police investigation which is absolutely ludicrous.  Yes, this is horrific.
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 03, 2024, 02:32:50 PM
um, a 99.9% conviction rate could mean that they are almost positive they got the right guy and let's marginal cases slide...

Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Rush on February 03, 2024, 03:37:18 PM
um, a 99.9% conviction rate could mean that they are almost positive they got the right guy and let's marginal cases slide...

I don't believe that for a second. The article says the courts are tilted toward the prosecution. That's not a fair trial from the get go.  Even in the U.S. where we are guaranteed a fair trial by the Constitution, there is prosecutorial misconduct all the time. It's notorious. And biased juries, and biased judges.  Also notorious is the oft stupidity of the police in investigating crime scenes or their bias in declaring a suspect (ie: it's always the husband).

Something I hear all the time is "He must be the killer because he showed no emotion when we questioned him". Police are not psychologists. Psychologists will tell you there is no right or wrong way to behave when in shock when a loved one dies.

You can't convince me they let marginal cases slide, by that I assume you mean cases where they have little evidence. If the Chinese police are anything like they are in the U.S., they'll plant evidence if there isn't enough to arrest you.  No not all police and not the majority of time, but enough so that I will never believe 99.9% of their convictions are actually guilty in reality.

Or are you being sarcastic?   ;D
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 03, 2024, 04:10:01 PM
More of just thinking of alternatives.  Consider a surgeon that has a 99.99% success rate with heart surgeries. 

The doc could be really really REALLY good, or very risk adverse, taking only patients that are very likely to be ok even if he screws up
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Rush on February 03, 2024, 04:13:07 PM
More of just thinking of alternatives.  Consider a surgeon that has a 99.99% success rate with heart surgeries. 

The doc could be really really REALLY good, or very risk adverse, taking only patients that are very likely to be ok even if he screws up

Ah, okay, like devil’s advocate?  I agree about the surgeon.  But that’s one guy who has a lot of control over the risks. I don’t think you can apply the same to a vast force of LEOs and a judicial system.  But I admit I’m a bit biased against communist China.
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Lucifer on February 03, 2024, 04:28:06 PM
China is a communist country.    Their system of justice is the government is always right.
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Number7 on February 03, 2024, 08:29:17 PM
um, a 99.9% conviction rate could mean that they are almost positive they got the right guy and let's marginal cases slide...

Not in fucking china.

Their corrupt police state taught the fucking democrats how to weaponize the government against political opponents by killing, then sending the surviving family an invoice for the fucking bullet.

Don’t think for a second the fucking democrat traitors wouldn’t go down the same road given a compliant Supreme Court.
Title: Re: Flashback to 1930's Germany
Post by: Rush on February 04, 2024, 04:42:13 AM
Not in fucking china.

Their corrupt police state taught the fucking democrats how to weaponize the government against political opponents by killing, then sending the surviving family an invoice for the fucking bullet.

Don’t think for a second the fucking democrat traitors wouldn’t go down the same road given a compliant Supreme Court.

The fucking Democrat traitors know how to get a compliant Supreme Court. Just publicly encourage rioting in the streets. Target their homes with protests. Investigate them for “tax fraud”.  Look for that sort of thing to ramp sky high if cases come to them involving Trump or his supporters or the Texas border or anything else challenging their war against free American citizens.