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Spin Zone / Re: I got my stimulus money today!
« on: January 07, 2021, 06:58:20 AM »
Well, you've pretty much screwed the pooch for the last two months, so I don't think I'll put much faith in your prediction of this.  Your vision of what's going on in Washington is warped.

Democrats have no intention to be cooperative, they are going to shut Republicans out entirely.

 Typical projection.   And like the rest of your fellow travelers, useful idiots for the left.

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Spin Zone / Re: Ashli Babbitt
« on: January 07, 2021, 06:54:09 AM »
https://freenorthcarolina.blogspot.com/2021/01/ashli-babbitttrump-supporter-killed-at.html

The first casualty of the second civil war.

 To the left she was just collateral damage.  Just like all the cities they burned and all the people their hate groups murdered.

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Spin Zone / Re: I Knew The Fucking Communists Were The Real Culprits...
« on: January 07, 2021, 06:52:26 AM »
Sharing this from a Fakebook post I got.

It appears this was planned and coordinated to sway congress to not object to Xiden.

 Exactly.  The left and the establishment needed the optics.  From now through the 20th it will be played over and over.  They also needed blood, and they got it.   Nothing will ever come from the senseless death of the veteran, she is just collateral damage to achieve a goal.

 The left and establishment needed to silence Trump yesterday and his message, and they succeeded.

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Spin Zone / Re: How Long Before The Economic Collapse
« on: January 07, 2021, 06:48:32 AM »
The CCP needs our economy to be active.   Remember the core of their rise is selling to the rest of the world, they need that market, without it they will find themselves in economic collapse.

 Look forward to yet another Obama type economy, stagnation, high interest rates and high fuel cost.   Look for unemployment to rise as well as taxes.   Companies such as Amazon and WalMart will add more and more Chinese products that will shut out products being made here, which in turn contributes to unemployment.

 The CCP will be in the shadow of our government and will be indirectly determining domestic and foreign policy for the US.  Our military will shrink and only be allowed to fight nonsense wars in shithole countries.   The CCP needs our technology, and without a war somewhere that slows technology.  Plus the CCP can join in with the establishment to profiteer on endless wars.  Business as usual.

 Xiden already wants to open the doors of our space program to the Chinese.  This will allow them access to even more of our technology for their space program.

 For Big Tech and MSM, expect the CCP influence to go into hyper drive.  We've now seen censorship at levels never witnessed before, and censorship will become the new normal.   Conservative websites and any website deemed not acceptable will be de-platformed.  Look for the Fairness Doctrine to re-emerge.

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Spin Zone / Re: I got my stimulus money today!
« on: January 06, 2021, 09:43:41 PM »
Whatever drugs you are on, stop taking them. There is no power in the minority.

You cannot save this unmitigated shitshow by pretending it is good to have no say and no power to stop bad laws from being passed.



 If the majority side needs something passed but doesn’t have the votes, they have to negotiate.  It will cost them something, somewhere.  That’s power.  Pay the price or don’t get the votes. 

McConnell has perfected it.  The only way to get him out of the picture is get 60+ members of your own party in the senate.

And don’t give me the shit about eliminating the filibuster.  Both sides have profited from it and don’t want it to go away.  It’s an idle threat.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 06, 2021, 09:39:29 PM »
When it comes to the Constitution you are like a dog watching TV.  Come back with an argument and I will discuss.

 

 Yeah!  Conservative by traditional definitions.  Not populist and seek small government, not an autocracy.
 
 
Where do I read this non-evidence?

 
Source?  Anyone can claim anything, but that doesn't make it true.

 
Evidence?

 
Source?

Source?  Anyone can make up anything.

 
What do you think that is proof of?



 
That is your narrative!  The most that any of that would prove, if anything, was negligence.


What makes you think that some of these weren't looked at by judges and rejected?  Some of these affidavits were not formally presented to the court by Trump's lawyers because they didn't want to risk disbarment by proffering BS.  Most of these court cases, were political theater, like Che Cruzvara and his silly, groundless objections to electoral votes.  It is telling that none of the autocracy party challenged the Congressional elections carried out with the same systems and ballots that they are challenging when they turned out to support Biden.

 

What votes being hidden?  Got evidence?  Georgia, as an example was recounted twice and audited by a GOP controlled process.

 
ABC, the Economist, Fox, and a number of others when I am tried to get to the truth of something.  You should unplug from Newsmax, One America, Breitbart, and the like.

If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic.

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Spin Zone / Re: I got my stimulus money today!
« on: January 06, 2021, 08:56:34 PM »
Quick followup on Bernie - article on whether he is a Democrat or an independent?:
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/04/700121429/bernie-sanders-files-to-run-as-a-democrat-and-an-independent

Interesting - he’s a Democrat when he needs to be. I’ve seen similar cases of candidates declaring in the Republican party as well as in the Libertarian party, depending on the race or who they are trying to woo. Doesn’t always work.

 Considering the fuck over the Democrats have Bernie this time around its amazing he still caucuses with them. But, since the Democrats have embraced communism.......maybe that’s why Bernie hangs around.  Plus he has two new far left communist whackos from GA to join him.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 06, 2021, 08:49:33 PM »

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Spin Zone / Walter Williams: An Unlikely Proponent of Secession
« on: January 06, 2021, 08:36:08 PM »
https://mises.org/wire/walter-williams-unlikely-proponent-secession

Walter Williams: An Unlikely Proponent of Secession


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There’s no disputing the void that has been left behind since economist Walter Williams passed away in December. Williams had a remarkable ability to convey free market economic concepts in a way the masses could easily digest. Big shoes to fill indeed.
Walter Williams’s Sympathy toward Secession

One overlooked aspect of Williams’s work was his sympathy for the strategy of secession. It may surprise some of us that an African American could even support such an idea. The commonly touted narrative on secession, after all, is that only supporters of the secessionist old Confederacy would even think about supporting secession today. Attempts to connect secession to racism and slavery are common.

But if there is one thing that Walter Williams showcased throughout his career, it is that he was no race hustler and never fell for cheap attempts at race baiting. He spoke the truth no matter how uncomfortable it made others feel. In multiple publications throughout his illustrious publishing career, Williams observed that secession didn’t just start with the Confederacy.

Secession is as American as apple pie. The nation’s very founding involved the thirteen colonies seceding from the British Empire. The radical decentralization embodied by the American Revolution is taken for granted by your typical court historian, but Williams had immense respect for this underappreciated part of American history.

Williams called attention to the fact that the 1783 Treaty of Paris, which brought an end to the American colonies’ war for independence, recognized that the colonies were “free, sovereign and independent states.” In a 2015 column, “Historical Ignorance,” Williams expanded on one of the key provisions that spelled out the sovereignty of the individual colonies:

    The 1783 Treaty of Paris ended the war between the colonies and Great Britain. Its first article declared the 13 colonies “to be free, sovereign and independent states.” These 13 sovereign nations came together in 1787 as principals and created the federal government as their agent. Principals have always held the right to fire agents. In other words, states held a right to withdraw from the pact—secede.

During the ratification process of the US Constitution, states that were skeptical of the new constitution being put forward by the Federalist faction of the constitutional debate made it a point to include provisions in their ratification documents that outlined steps for withdrawal. They did so in the case that the federal government overstepped its constitutional boundaries. Williams detailed this in the same column:

    In fact, the ratification documents of Virginia, New York, and Rhode Island explicitly said they held the right to resume powers delegated should the federal government become abusive of those powers. The Constitution never would have been ratified if states thought they could not regain their sovereignty—in a word, secede.

Even on the eve of the American Civil War, Northern politicians acknowledged that secession was a legal tactic states could use when they were dissatisfied with the federal government. Williams duly noted this:

    Several months earlier, Reps. Daniel E. Sickles of New York, Thomas B. Florence of Pennsylvania and Otis S. Ferry of Connecticut proposed a constitutional amendment to prohibit secession. Here's a question for the reader: Would there have been any point to offering these amendments if secession were already unconstitutional?

Williams observed that pro-Union politicians understood how secession was a legitimate right that states possessed at the time:

    On the eve of the War of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Rep. Jacob M. Kunkel of Maryland said, “Any attempt to preserve the union between the states of this Confederacy by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty.”

Why Secession Still Matters

In politics, might often makes right, as evidenced by the Union’s military victory, which apparently settled the secession question at the time. Williams lamented this new precedent that the federal government established:

    Because states cannot secede, the federal government can run roughshod over the U.S. Constitution's limitations of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. States have little or no response.

That the North turned the South into rubble, however, does not invalidate the concept of secession. There is an innate desire among people worldwide to pursue self-determination. Historically, the push for self-governance has propelled frequent changes in borders and realignments in political territories. Even in the twenty-first century, continents from Europe to Africa are experiencing secessionist movements grow in strength year after year. Try as many central governments might, they cannot fully extinguish the human penchant for building separate jurisdictions that better reflect their values.
Williams on Local Resistance in Virginia

Williams was a true classical liberal in the mold of Lord Acton who not only understood the power of free markets but also of diffused powers, a nonnegotiable precondition for a market order to function. The late economist did not blurt out vacuous slogans about limited government but genuinely pushed the envelope on every issue that mattered, from public schooling to welfare to identity politics. Williams’s sympathy toward secession further reinforced the late economist’s willingness to buck conventional wisdom in politics.

For example, right before the Second Amendment sanctuary county drama kicked off in Virginia in 2020, Williams praised Virginia Second Amendment activists for their efforts to resist gun control attempts coming from Governor Ralph Northam’s office. Williams cited the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions—two political statements that argued that states have the authority and duty to judge the constitutionality of laws coming from the central government—as potential guides for Virginia Second Amendment activists to follow. Williams wanted his fellow Virginians to apply that logic to the state government as well. He believed that overzealous state governments could also be subject to resistance from local governing bodies. Although Northam and company were able to successfully ram some gun control through, Second Amendment sanctuary county efforts won’t be disappearing any time soon in Virginia and other blue states nationwide.
Let Us Remember Williams for His Radicalism

We should honor Williams at his most radical. Now is not the time to pine for the days of agreeable politics. In recent decades, the US has gone through radical political and cultural transformations that are making the country progressively ungovernable. Any kind of national election from here on out will be viewed as illegitimate by the losing side due to the perceived high stakes of these affairs. No longer do America’s partisan coalitions treat each other as respectable competitors, but rather as existential threats that must be vanquished at the ballot box. As America’s social fabric continues withering and polarization intensifies, it’s only a matter of time before this kind of tension turns violent.


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Spin Zone / Re: I got my stimulus money today!
« on: January 06, 2021, 08:31:09 PM »

If Georgia certifies this week or early next week, Pence will still preside and be the deciding vote in the Senate in an election for majority leader in an evenly split Senate

 McConnell wants to be in the minority.  Here's why, power.   Just as Schumer in the last few years, there is actually more power in the minority.

 If a major piece of legislation is up, and something the majority party wants, they have to go to the minority to get votes.  And those votes will cost something.  The minority leader is the deal broker and the majority has to bring something to the table.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 06, 2021, 07:50:21 PM »
Our Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.  You are entitled to your belief system.  Belief fills the gaps left by lack of facts.

 The fact is you are aligning with a party that has deep ties to the CCP (fact), has a long history of bigotry and racism (fact), supports and funds hate groups (fact). 

 All easily provable. 

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 06, 2021, 07:47:06 PM »
No jujitsu!  The Constitution, which you have so little love for, or knowledge of, limits the courts to actual cases and controversies.  This is to limit the lawmaking ability of the court.  There is no actual controversy for the court if the complaintant has not actual injury of which to complain.  Even the GOP packed appellate courts agreed with the trial courts.

 Wow, getting deep into projection are we?   

 You legal "reasoning" leaves a bit to be desired, and it's clear you are leaving a few details out to steer your narrative.  Typical.


This is of course a distortion of what I said.  Even Trump thought Hillary was going to win, and probably wish she had, or he will in time.  I disappeared because I had said what I wanted to say and had better things to do than repeat myself and chose to let the last three years speak for themselves.  There was little point, without the facts of history subsequently provided, to deal with the toxic masculinity express from behind the anonymity of silly handles.

 Oh c'mon Kristin, you can do better than that!  LOL!  Are you break into a karaoke rendition of "I am Woman" now?  ::)

 
 
Yes!  Lots of moderates and even real conservatives love our republic enough to oppose Trump and Trumpism.

 Conservatives like George Will?  David French?  Bill Kristol?  Paul Ryan? 

 
 
Got evidence of dead people's votes being counted?

 Go read the evidence.  They were identified by name, former address and DOD.  And they requested ballots, registrations and returned votes.   All democrat, of course.

I will concede that it is likely that there were a handful of votes cast and counted that should not have been.

 And why weren't those votes removed from the certification?   PA had 205,000, WI had 200,000+, GA had over 100,000+.

 NV had thousands of votes using empty lots and campgrounds as addresses, and thousands of votes from people living in other states.   Shouldn't those votes have been removed?

Pretty impossible that have hundreds of millions of votes to obtain absolute perfection.

 Isn't amazing that a typical vote rejection rate was around 3.5% in previous elections, but during this election it was only .34%?

 Amazing huh?

  However, no court, not legislature, not governmental entity has found enough error to put the result of the election in doubt.  Georgia revealed that they detected the votes of two dead people, and did not count them.

Georgia:

Underaged votes.
66.247
Failed to reregister moving from one county to another
40.279
Voted in GA but changed address before the election.
15.700
Dead people voted.
10.315
Registered in another state but voted in GA
4.926
Ballots send to voters too early.
2.664
Felons voted illegally.
2.560
Unregistered voters
2.423
Voted in GA, but registered in another state.
395
Ballots registered too late.
98

But his flunkies has their fingers in the Russian cookie jar.

Never proven.

And of course, we have Trump clearly trying to extort Ukraine to interfere in the election.

 You got the wrong guy






It is also a bit rich to be complaining about Congress's investigation of Trump after all the millions spent investigating Benghazi for no other purpose than damaging Hillary.

 Please go tell that to the families of the dead guys left there to die so as not to embarrass Hillary.



What material evidence?  I had read a few of these affidavits.  It was not relevant, material evidence.

 A few?  Oh, so by reading "a few" that makes them all invalid?  How rich!   There are over a thousand.    So why did the dims desperately not want these affidavits seen in court, or have the witnesses deposed?  Wouldn't they have welcomed the chance to prove them wrong?



The reality is that there is no way that it would be possible to pull off the vast conspiracy necessary to swing the election by 37 electoral votes.

 The evidence suggest a different story that you and your ilk don't want to see the inside of a courtroom.   If it's all so transparent, why wouldn't the states allow forensic examinations?   Why are they hiding votes? 


This election was run mostly be GOP controlled states.  The notion that all of them could work together to give the election to Biden, and not leave a trace that a court packed with Trump appointees, it silly on its face.

 So you only get your information from trusted sources such as CNN, NYT and WashPo, and to feel a little intellectual PBS, right?

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 06, 2021, 06:30:11 PM »
They want to spike the football.

 The useful idiots.   The DCP can't exist without them.

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Spin Zone / Re: January 6
« on: January 06, 2021, 06:17:06 PM »

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Spin Zone / Re: I got my stimulus money today!
« on: January 06, 2021, 06:08:56 PM »


I don't care about the money for me.

 Bullshit.  You've been whining about scrapping a few dollars together for an airplane.  You saw an opportunity then got butthurt.

 Don't worry though, Xiden is already promising you another check.  Too bad under him your 100LL is going to cost $10/gallon, but hey, you won't get you wittle feelings hurt by a tweet anymore!

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