PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on October 07, 2021, 09:25:03 AM
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https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/virginia-2021-dead-heat-in-governor-and-attorney-general-race
So does anyone believe that McAuliffe hasn't already won the race? I'm really surprised the MSM hasn't already called the race and declared him the winner.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/go-va-dems-ask-northam-waive-absentee-ballot-witness-signature-requirements-governors-race-tightens-citing-covid-dangers/
Democrats can’t win unless they cheat.
Virginia Democrats are now asking Governor Ralph Northam to waive absentee ballot witness signature requirements ahead of the gubernatorial race, citing Covid dangers.
The race between Democrat Terry McAuliffe and Republican Glenn Youngkin is close and the Democrats know they have a real chance of losing so they are once again using Covid as a vehicle to cheat just like they did in 2020.
Terry McAuliffe earlier this week said the quiet part out loud and admitted Joe Biden is unpopular during a zoom call.
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The Democrats are squeezing every bit of cheat out of covid they can, no wonder they NEVER want the covid panic to end.
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The saddest thing about this entire scam is the number of otherwise intelligent humans willing to smile and pretend it is all on the up and up.
The lack of integrity among liberals is at an all time high and getting worse.
No wonder liberals are so intent on ending free speech.
The fury building among honest people is soon to sound like a tornado and they can't stand being called out on their hypocrisy and
deceit.
It must be terrible to be a liberal and know you have to look everyone in the eye and lie to their face, knowing all the time that everyone
knows you're lying.
I'm sure that works for moronic drones like steingar, but actual humans surely can't be that creepy, can they?
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It’s vile how the DC teet suckers have succeeded in changing the state of Virginia blue.
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As of 8:22 PM ET, the WSJ reports Youngkin with 55.6% and McAuliffe with 43.8%. 50% expected vote total reported.
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Fairfax County is delaying the vote report. Hmmmmmm
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Fairfax County is delaying the vote report. Hmmmmmm
It takes time to change ballots without leaving evidence.
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It takes time to change ballots without leaving evidence.
If we see a repeat of last November, they are delaying to see how many votes need to be produced to overcome the R candidate.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1455681533449232390?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1455681533449232390%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Ffairfax-county-we-are-rescanning-ballots%2F
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They’re trying like hell to cheat.
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Seems like people are pretty sick of Biden - https://apple.news/Agc1UTNcLRiy4dNhIYLfLZA
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Probably other sites that are presenting real-time results, but so far according to https://www.politico.com/ (https://www.politico.com/) at 95% reported precincts, it looks like the entire Republican slate is ahead for governor, lt. governor, and attorney general positions.
Still a lot of votes to tally in New Jersey but the Republican candidate is currently ahead. All the polls showed him behind the Democrat candidate.
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So the Democrats will need to manufacture about 100k votes to steal this one. Would that not be a bit obvious?
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So the Democrats will need to manufacture about 100k votes to steal this one. Would that not be a bit obvious?
After the 2020 election?? Naw, go bold or go home, as they say.
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So Politico.com appears to have called Youngkin the winner.
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NBC, CNN and ABC and a host of others have too.
The crying is so loud I think I hear it all the way to Florida.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/republican-glenn-youngkin-elected-governor-of-virginia-besting-terry-mcauliffe-after-eight-years-of-democratic-rule/
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republican-glenn-youngkin-projected-win-virginia-governors-race/story?id=80864529
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Also looks like NJ may show an upset - polls had showed Democrat Murphy well ahead of his Republican rival Ciattarelli but massive Republican turnout has kept the Republican ahead most of the evening.
Politico.com says:
“Republican strongholds Ciattarelli was counting on — especially Ocean County, the biggest GOP vote-producing county in the state — saw massive turnout while turnout appeared milquetoast in the state’s urban, heavily Democratic areas.
Whether Murphy wins or loses, the results offer a massive reality check for New Jersey Democrats. The party had benefited from the deep unpopularity of former Republican Gov. Chris Christie and former President Donald Trump to turn once-solid GOP suburbs blue, saw their voter registration advantage over Republicans soar to more than a million and grew their state legislative majorities.
Much of Murphy’s campaign focused on tying Ciattarelli, the 59-year-old Central Jersey native and founder of a medical publishing company, to Trump. That attack appears to have lost its appeal.“
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Besides a new Virginia Governor, this is the new Lt. Governor elect of Virginia.
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There is no evidence of massive widespread fraud.
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There is no evidence of massive widespread fraud.
And you know this how?
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The news is more than just Virginia, lots of races flipped red over night.
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Fairfax County is delaying the vote report. Hmmmmmm
My brother and family live in Fairfax County. My SIL told me Youngkin signs were way outweighing McAulliffe signs in yards. Of course that says nothing about who controls the election board.
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And you know this how?
If there was massive fraud, then the media would be all over it
Right?
Is the green font necessary?
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If there was massive fraud, then the media would be all over it
Right?
Is the green font necessary?
Hard to tell with your cryptic postings.
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In that particular post, I got it. The green font was not necessary.
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I think Youngkin adopted Trump policies without riding on Trump coattails. I thought it was a good combination and a formula for success for 2022 and 2024.
And then he opens his mouth this morning. This is why he can’t run in 2024.
https://thehill.com/homenews/579809-trump-youngkin-would-have-lost-by-15-points-without-maga
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And the question is, did they cheat “red” candidates in to make us go quiet? The proof will be in what these “red” winners do in office. I wouldn’t be surprised if some are swamp.
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I think Youngkin adopted Trump policies without riding on Trump coattails. I thought it was a good combination and a formula for success for 2022 and 2024.
And then he opens his mouth this morning. This is why he can’t run in 2024.
https://thehill.com/homenews/579809-trump-youngkin-would-have-lost-by-15-points-without-maga
I think he meant the MAGA populist movement itself, not personally taking credit. That’s how I interpret those remarks. Trump is only the galvanizing force, awakening a dormant beast that had been growing long before he came on the scene. He just took the lid off it. Gave it a channel to actualization. It’s not going back to sleep. Youngkin would have got those votes whether or not Trump urged his base to get out. Trump could die tomorrow and this movement will remain alive and well. I think he is well aware of that. The movement isn’t about him, it’s about the forgotten man.
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The movement isn’t about him, it’s about the forgotten man.
Yep.
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I think he meant the MAGA populist movement itself, not personally taking credit. That’s how I interpret those remarks. Trump is only the galvanizing force, awakening a dormant beast that had been growing long before he came on the scene. He just took the lid off it. Gave it a channel to actualization. It’s not going back to sleep. Youngkin would have got those votes whether or not Trump urged his base to get out. Trump could die tomorrow and this movement will remain alive and well. I think he is well aware of that. The movement isn’t about him, it’s about the forgotten man.
I agree with all, but I’m not sure Trump agrees. I’m holding my breath that he does.
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I agree with all, but I’m not sure Trump agrees. I’m holding my breath that he does.
Does it matter? I’ve always said he might be a narcissist doing all this solely for his own glory. I don’t care what his inner motivations are. For four years he proved himself, kept his promises, did what is best for the common man of America. If he wants to Make America Great Again just so Donald Trump can take credit for it, fine by me.
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Does it matter? I’ve always said he might be a narcissist doing all this solely for his own glory. I don’t care what his inner motivations are. For four years he proved himself, kept his promises, did what is best for the common man of America. If he wants to Make America Great Again just so Donald Trump can take credit for it, fine by me.
It matters if he decides to run again. I’m not turning against him because of his ego. I like his ego.
But if his ego compels him to run in 2024, he will win the primary, lose the general, and cheat us out of having someone like DeSantis for 8 years. Should he win, we would only get him for 4 years, and the Trump hatred would likely bring us another radical socialist president as backlash.
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It matters if he decides to run again. I’m not turning against him because of his ego. I like his ego.
But if his ego compels him to run in 2024, he will win the primary, lose the general, and cheat us out of having someone like DeSantis for 8 years. Should he win, we would only get him for 4 years, and the Trump hatred would likely bring us another radical socialist president as backlash.
I don't want to see an establishment type run, and win. And with the disaster of Biden/Harris, it would be ripe for an establishment R to win by default.
Three years is a long time. The race for 2024 won't begin in earnest till after the 2022 mid terms.
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It matters if he decides to run again. I’m not turning against him because of his ego. I like his ego.
But if his ego compels him to run in 2024, he will win the primary, lose the general, and cheat us out of having someone like DeSantis for 8 years. Should he win, we would only get him for 4 years, and the Trump hatred would likely bring us another radical socialist president as backlash.
What makes you so sure he’d lose the general?
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What makes you so sure he’d lose the general?
Every Democrat (living and dead) hates him and will vote for anyone but him.
And many Republicans feel like Stan does and won't be motivated to get out to vote.
I just can't imagine any scenario where Trump will win the general. And like Stan said, even if he does, he will cause a whiplash in 4 years that will guarantee an even farther left liberal.
DeSantis and Kristi! (Or Krsiti and DeSantis) in 2024.
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What makes you so sure he’d lose the general?
Several reasons:
1. The lies and irrational hatred of the man by half the country has not gone away, and will likely multiply.
2. That unprecedented hatred caused half the country to vote for an incontinent, demented sloth, despite the benefits they were ALL enjoying due to Trump’s policies. Pure example of a circular firing squad. They didn’t care. I don’t see that resistance to Trump ever declining.
3. In 2020 we said (of Biden) being 78 is too old to start your presidency. We were right in our prediction. Trump would be 78 when he assumed office in January 2025. I understand men age differently, and one 78-year old can act like an 88 year old, while another can act like a 68 year old, but the principal remains that 78 is old to start a job. I think a lot of conservatives will be thinking that way.
Trump was the most conservative and best president in my lifetime. Being in my 60s, I don’t want to waste a chance to have a younger conservative become president, and remain in the office for 8 years. Selfishly, my retirement funds can’t bear another 8 year democrat run.
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I don’t disagree with y’all’s reasoning but I’m not sure it is correct. The reason he is so hated is he is not of the swamp. That was the whole point. Anyone accepted by the media and DC will be “of the swamp”. We really need someone like Trump to dismantle it, not get along with it. Trump was accomplishing that despite all the hatred, attacks and constant persecution. I like DeSantis and also am very concerned about Trump’s age but DeSantis is still too unknown, we don’t know if he will continue Trump’s draining the swamp.
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I don’t disagree with y’all’s reasoning but I’m not sure it is correct. The reason he is so hated is he is not of the swamp. That was the whole point. Anyone accepted by the media and DC will be “of the swamp”. We really need someone like Trump to dismantle it, not get along with it. Trump was accomplishing that despite all the hatred, attacks and constant persecution. I like DeSantis and also am very concerned about Trump’s age but DeSantis is still too unknown, we don’t know if he will continue Trump’s draining the swamp.
He’s hated by politicians of both parties and the MSM because he’s not of the swamp. I agree. However, the translation from the politicians and MSM filters down into the mind-numbed but voting liberal public who think Trump is a racist, white supremacist, and whatever other vile label they can put on him. And they believe those labels, viscerally, even if they are completely incapable of articulating why they exist.
It’s as ubiquitous as calling tissue “Kleenex.” No one calls tissues anything other than Kleenex. And no one on the left thinks Trump is a good guy who gets things done. No one.
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He’s hated by politicians of both parties and the MSM because he’s not of the swamp. I agree. However, the translation from the politicians and MSM filters down into the mind-numbed but voting liberal public who think Trump is a racist, white supremacist, and whatever other vile label they can put on him. And they believe those labels, viscerally, even if they are completely incapable of articulating why they exist.
It’s as ubiquitous as calling tissue “Kleenex.” No one calls tissues anything other than Kleenex. And no one on the left thinks Trump is a good guy who gets things done. No one.
But in spite of all that he was still getting it done. Energy independence, low unemployment, showing a position of strength to our enemies. I understand you can’t convince the idiot liberals to see it but do you really think he is now unelectable?
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But in spite of all that he was still getting it done. Energy independence, low unemployment, showing a position of strength to our enemies. I understand you can’t convince the idiot liberals to see it but do you really think he is now unelectable?
I do, only because the attacks on him will be orders of magnitude worse than when he ran last year. They smell blood in the water because they believe they defeated him. Hell, McCauliff ran his entire campaign against Trump, not Youngkin. Obviously that was a losing strategy, but it could win if Trump was actually running for POTUS.
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Several reasons:
Yes, but the thing you're overlooking is that Trump didn't lose the election.
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I do, only because the attacks on him will be orders of magnitude worse than when he ran last year. They smell blood in the water because they believe they defeated him. Hell, McCauliff ran his entire campaign against Trump, not Youngkin. Obviously that was a losing strategy, but it could win if Trump was actually running for POTUS.
It is a terrible strategy to intentionally choose a lesser candidate because the fucking enemy won't like the best one.
You sound like flynn wanting everyone to vote for a 'moderate' democrat in 2016 because he didn't like Trump and worried that moderates wouldn't either.
It's just a stupid way to go about losing.
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Yes, but the thing you're overlooking is that Trump didn't lose the election.
I’m not overlooking it. However he no longer resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, so we have to deal with the cards that we were dealt.
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It is a terrible strategy to intentionally choose a lesser candidate because the fucking enemy won't like the best one.
You sound like flynn wanting everyone to vote for a 'moderate' democrat in 2016 because he didn't like Trump and worried that moderates wouldn't either.
It's just a stupid way to go about losing.
Fuck you. That’s not what I’m saying and you fucking know it. Since when have I ever given an indication of wanting a moderate?
I want a better candidate. A younger one. One that can give us 8 years instead of 4. One that is less damaged. The same thing happens to most great NFL quarterbacks; most get traded in their later years for virtually the same reasons as I’ve stated about Trump - damaged and old, regardless of how good they were earlier in their career.
I don’t want to win the battle but lose the war. I want to win the battle AND the war, and for that we need someone who can go all 8 years.
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Fuck you. That’s not what I’m saying and you fucking know it. Since when have I ever given an indication of wanting a moderate?
I want a better candidate. A younger one. One that can give us 8 years instead of 4. One that is less damaged. The same thing happens to most great NFL quarterbacks; most get traded in their later years for virtually the same reasons as I’ve stated about Trump - damaged and old, regardless of how good they were earlier in their career.
I don’t want to win the battle but lose the war. I want to win the battle AND the war, and for that we need someone who can go all 8 years.
Bullshit.
That's exactly what you were saying and you fucking know it, pussy.
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I do, only because the attacks on him will be orders of magnitude worse than when he ran last year. They smell blood in the water because they believe they defeated him. Hell, McCauliff ran his entire campaign against Trump, not Youngkin. Obviously that was a losing strategy, but it could win if Trump was actually running for POTUS.
I mostly agree, but McAuliffe didn’t lose because he ran against Trump, it was because he supported a lot of stupid wokeness in the face of extreme public opinion against it. He presented the attitude of someone believed he was above it all. I believe he was also damaged by Biden’s ineptitude. Overall, Biden’s bumbling circus helped a lot of Republicans this year, I think because many who were willing to give Biden a chance woke up to the Democrat’s lies.
As far as Trump, I don’t think he is a smart choice. He inflames Democrats and energizes them to vote…Democrats hate him so much, they’ve shown themselves ready to throw away democracy and disregard election laws to beat him. Then consider he only barely beat an inept Clinton and lost to Biden! Trump has a very strong following with a minority, but not beyond that. Yes, to some extent the leftist media will demonize anyone who runs as a Republican, but there isn’t much we can do about that. There are many adequate choices who are more electable.
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flynn wanting everyone to vote for a 'moderate' democrat in 2016
Reminder, if you’re going to do drugs, do not act as PIC. There have been no moderate Democrats for President in the past 20 years.
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Bullshit.
That's exactly what you were saying and you fucking know it, pussy.
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Where's the popcorn emoji?
YOU are calling STAN a pussy? HaHaHa.
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I mostly agree, but McAuliffe didn’t lose because he ran against Trump, it was because he supported a lot of stupid wokeness in the face of extreme public opinion against it. He presented the attitude of someone believed he was above it all.
True! I have worked in a public school system, I know how they think. McAuliffe perfectly articulated the mindset when he said parents have no business interfering. They are an insulated in-group, enthusiastic about their mission for better or worse. I’m not saying all of their ideas are bad, I’m saying it’s their way or the highway. Everything in a school is carefully thought out to support whatever educational, social, psychological or physical goals they have for the children. They source their ideas from state and national government entities, academics, and I’m sorry to say, their own ideological leanings. Not that much from parents. The channel for parent input is indeed the school board meeting. There really is no other way for parents to penetrate the administrative structure so it is not surprising that school board meetings became a flashpoint for parental frustration over lack of control over what their children are being taught. Like so often with Democrats, McAuliffe screwed up by telling the truth.
I believe he was also damaged by Biden’s ineptitude. Overall, Biden’s bumbling circus helped a lot of Republicans this year, I think because many who were willing to give Biden a chance woke up to the Democrat’s lies.
This is also true and history bears it out. The trend toward red, not just in VA, is definitely an indictment of the Biden administration as well as the Democrat party in general which has allowed itself to be infested by radical left wing fanatics. Most U.S. citizens are not card carrying communists, and many Democrats are beginning to see their party walking and squawking like exactly that.
As far as Trump, I don’t think he is a smart choice. He inflames Democrats and energizes them to vote…Democrats hate him so much, they’ve shown themselves ready to throw away democracy and disregard election laws to beat him. Then consider he only barely beat an inept Clinton and lost to Biden! Trump has a very strong following with a minority, but not beyond that. Yes, to some extent the leftist media will demonize anyone who runs as a Republican, but there isn’t much we can do about that. There are many adequate choices who are more electable.
Part of me agrees Trump has too much baggage. Of course he didn’t lose to Biden. How can you say in one breath that they disregarded election laws, basically admitting they cheated, and in the next that he lost to Biden? He won in a landslide. To say otherwise is simply to keep deluding yourself that the emperor has clothes when it’s clear he doesn’t.
But part of me agrees Trump should be a kingmaker instead of running himself. It’s just that Trump is unique in his ability to withstand the tsunami of opposition thrown against anyone who tries to reverse the federal government’s massive corrupt elitism. We don’t need someone “adequate” who will be at peace with the status quo. We need someone to continue fighting the war against growing federal tyranny. Anyone who does that will be viciously attacked by not only the leftist media but the weaponized alphabet agencies. They won’t be demonized merely “to some extent” if they continue effectively in Trump’s shoes but they may lack the will to stand and fight it like Trump can. Someone like that is a once in a lifetime leader.
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How can you say in one breath that they disregarded election laws, basically admitting they cheated, and in the next that he lost to Biden?
I can say that because Trump isn’t President.
Clearly there were laws which were not followed. But still the officials in charge disregarded the laws and certified elections anyway. They lied and cheated but the courts are not holding them to task for it because the officials certifying the elections did nothing illegal.
Will Democrats try it again? Who knows. I am still of the opinion that without election reforms which include certification standards, they will get more and more blatant about it. Republicans should fight back and learn how to cheat better. That’s where the country is headed.
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Where's the popcorn emoji?
YOU are calling STAN a pussy? HaHaHa.
Make it a small box. While your and Flynn’s back and forth with 7 is quite entertaining, I tend to not enter into debate with snot-nosed, petulant children.
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In the next few election cycles (2024, 2028, 2032, etc) whoever the republican nominee is, they will get the "Trump treatment".
They will have their lives excoriated, they will be labeled as a white supremacist, and endless attacks by the MSM and Big Tech. They will be given the same treatment, if not worse. It's the new chapter of the DC playbook.
And expect the establishment R's to do what they have been doing all along. The Uniparty inside the beltway do not want outsiders, period.
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I can say that because Trump isn’t President.
Clearly there were laws which were not followed. But still the officials in charge disregarded the laws and certified elections anyway. They lied and cheated but the courts are not holding them to task for it because the officials certifying the elections did nothing illegal.
Biden is president in the sense that the new “owner” of a property that had a quit claim deed filed fraudulently is the legal new owner. Just because a mindless bureaucracy stamped it doesn’t make it real.
The difference is the officials that certified the election and the courts that failed to address the fraud knowingly did so out of fear and intimidation if they were Republican, outright criminal intent if Democrat.
Will Democrats try it again? Who knows. I am still of the opinion that without election reforms which include certification standards, they will get more and more blatant about it. Republicans should fight back and learn how to cheat better. That’s where the country is headed.
Hell yes they will do it again, are doing it, have always done it. Covid, mail in ballots, and computerized connected to the internet machines made it sweeping and far more effective. You’re right about election reforms. I’m convinced that the reason Youngkin is the acknowledged winner is that VA is now requiring mail in ballots to have witnessed signatures. How many states are still using Dominion machines?
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Bullshit.
That's exactly what you were saying and you fucking know it, pussy.
WTF? That's the wrong take on Stan's meaning. I didn't get that AT ALL from his posts. Not that Stan needs me to defend him. He could shove me in a school locker anytime he pleases. Lol!
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The communist democrats only have the bullshit they flung at President Trump and if the naysayers would pull their heads out of obama’s ass they would see that all they do is repeat the same tired lies at anyone who disagrees with their communist masters.
Has anyone seen, read, or heard an actual democrat, media whore, or fake republican say anything other than the tired overused democrat bullshit???
Racist
White supremacy
Patriarchy
Slavery
Homophobic
Anti woman
Push grandma over a cliff
Nothing new and nothing remotely true just like all the apologists here.
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Reminder, if you’re going to do drugs, do not act as PIC. There have been no moderate Democrats for President in the past 20 years.
Poor pathetic whiner.‘grow a set, or go get a vagina. If you're going to act like a pussy, you should go get one.
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Poor pathetic whiner.‘grow a set, or go get a vagina. If you're going to act like a pussy, you should go get one.
Whine? lol!
Coming down off the drugs is a bitch isn't it?
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Whine? lol!
Coming down off the drugs is a bitch isn't it?
Lol. And I thought it was just some of his early morning day drinking.
There are only two kinds of drunks: happy drunks and mean drunks.