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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on March 26, 2023, 08:01:33 AM
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https://amgreatness.com/2023/03/22/questions-without-answers-about-ukraine/
Questions Without Answers About Ukraine
Americans trying to understand the current administration’s obsession with Ukraine will note a number of unanswered questions surrounding the crisis.
By Victor Davis Hanson
March 22, 2023
Ukrainians, and many Europeans and Americans, are defining an envisioned Ukrainian victory as the complete expulsion of all Russians from its 2013 borders. Or, as a Ukrainian national security chief put it, the war ends with Ukrainian tanks in Red Square.
But mysteries remain about such ambitious agendas.
What would that goal entail?
Giving Ukraine American F-16s to strike bases and depots in Mother Russia? The gifting of 1,000 M1 Abrams tanks? Using American Harpoon missiles to sink the Russian Black Sea Fleet?
A huge arsenal that would guarantee total victory rather than not losing?
Russia’s cruel strategy is to grind down Ukraine and turn its eastern regions into a Verdun-like deathscape.
So is a brave Ukraine really winning the war when it loses about 0.6 soldiers for every Russian it kills?
Russia plans to leverage its extra 100 million people, its 10-times larger economy, and its 30-times larger territory to pulverize Ukraine and tire its Western patrons—whatever the costs to Russia.
Yet why were only a few in past administrations calling for a joint Western effort to expel Putin’s forces from the borderlands and Crimea captured in 2014?
Why are Putin’s 2014 invasions now seen as urgent rectifiable crimes of aggression, but were not regarded as reparable until 2022?
Is the United States economically capable or politically unified or socially stable enough to wage a huge proxy war on the frontiers of a nuclear Russia?
During the last comparable multibillion-dollar military efforts—the First Gulf War in 1990-1991 and the 2003 invasion of Iraq—the ratio of American debt to GDP was respectively 40 and 50 percent.
Today it hovers at nearly three times that figure at 129 percent, given some $33 trillion in accumulated debt.
Currently, the American economy is entering a stagflationary crisis. Banking, real estate, and financial sectors seem on the brink of imploding, especially after the near-record multibillion-dollar collapse of Sam Bankman-Fried’s FTX, and the meltdowns of the Silicon Valley and Signature banks.
Around 7 million illegal entries have occurred across the southern border since January 2021 alone. Millions of new impoverished foreign nationals tax social services, spike crime, and strain relations with an increasingly antagonistic Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador.
An emboldened Obrador now brags that 40 million of his countrymen have cumulatively crossed the border, many illegally. He urges them to vote for Democratic candidates to ensure more open borders.
Last year, over 100,000 Americans died of opiate overdoses. Most of the deaths were attributable to Mexican cartels’ brazen export of fentanyl across an open border.
Nearly a million Americans have likely died of such overdoses since 2000—more than double the number of fatalities in World War II.
Given its shell-shocked inner cities and toxic downtowns, America is beginning to resemble mid-19th-century England that sent forces all over its global empire while novelist Charles Dickens chronicled the misery and poverty at the imperial core in London.
Is the Ukrainian war also creating the most dangerous anti-American alliance since World War II?
China is buying cheap Russian oil, while stealthily supplying its weapons.
India, normally a rock-solid democratic ally, keeps buying both banned Russian oil and armaments.
Most of the major countries in South America have not joined the sanctions.
Clients like nuclear North Korea and soon to be nuclear Iran are empowered by overt help from Russia.
NATO member Turkey and once-allied Saudi Arabia appear now friendlier to Iran, friendlier to China, and friendlier to Russia, than they are to America.
In terms of combined oil reserves, nukes, population, area, and GDP, this new loose coalition of apparent anti-Americans seems more powerful than the United States and its squabbling friends in Europe.
Why were those now calling for a veritable blank check for Ukraine formerly quiet when the United States fled in humiliation from Afghanistan?
Why were they mostly silent when an appeasing Joe Biden begged Vladimir Putin at least to spare some U.S. targets on his otherwise extensive anti-American cyberwar hit list?
Or why were they indifferent when Biden said he would have fewer objections if Putin’s anticipated attack on Ukraine would be “minor”?
Or why were they not so eager for confrontation when Putin earlier acquired the Eastern Ukrainian borderlands and Crimea in 2014 in the first place?
Or why so subdued when the United States in 2015-16 refused to sell Ukrainian offensive weapons?
Why does the United States discount the serial and ascending nuclear threats from Russia, but we remain careful not to antagonize China?
After all, China sent a spy balloon brazenly across the United States to surveil and spy on American strategic locations.
And why is the administration so quiet about a likely leak of an engineered deadly COVID-19 virus from a Chinese virology lab that killed 1 million Americans?
These are Ukrainian war-related questions that never seem to be answered—but should be as the carnage rises and the nuclear threshold falls.
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I wonder how deeply the older cheney is in the middle of this, that would help explain the younger cheney’s need to remain in congress.
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https://amgreatness.com/2023/03/22/questions-without-answers-about-ukraine/
Questions Without Answers About Ukraine
Americans trying to understand the current administration’s obsession with Ukraine will note a number of unanswered questions surrounding the crisis.
By Victor Davis Hanson
Add in Honduras severing diplomatic ties with Taiwan. Yet another instance of Biden weakening our world standing, even within our own hemisphere.
I love VDH, and his writings always make me think. In this case, however, it just gives me anxiety. We are so fucked if Russia and China join forces in a shooting war with U.S.
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I wonder how deeply the older cheney is in the middle of this, that would help explain the younger cheney’s need to remain in congress.
I’ve got a gut feeling that unemployed Liz, along with Dick, are more dangerous than when she was in Congress.
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Add in Honduras severing diplomatic ties with Taiwan. Yet another instance of Biden weakening our world standing, even within our own hemisphere.
I love VDH, and his writings always make me think. In this case, however, it just gives me anxiety. We are so fucked if Russia and China join forces in a shooting war with U.S.
China won’t shoot at their largest trading partner. The Chinese economy is tied to the US. Take the US out, and China collapses economically.
What is dangerous, and currently happening, is the US losing its reserve currency status. Once we lose that, along with inflation, stagflation and the banks collapsing then our currency becomes worthless.
FJB and his UniParty in the meantime are profiteering by selling off our oil, and sending our manufacturing elsewhere.
This is going to get real ugly for us.
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I’ve got a gut feeling that unemployed Liz, along with Dick, are more dangerous than when she was in Congress.
Shit.. that present s a troubling picture.
But, you are most likely very right.
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China won’t shoot at their largest trading partner. The Chinese economy is tied to the US. Take the US out, and China collapses economically.
What is dangerous, and currently happening, is the US losing its reserve currency status. Once we lose that, along with inflation, stagflation and the banks collapsing then our currency becomes worthless.
FJB and his UniParty in the meantime are profiteering by selling off our oil, and sending our manufacturing elsewhere.
This is going to get real ugly for us.
Our Democrat and Establishment Republican "leadership" is willingly making us a colony of China because they're being paid off. So no, they won't attack us militarily but continue the plunder and conversion to their style of Fascism which people like Michael support. Traitors all.
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I’ve got a gut feeling that unemployed Liz, along with Dick, are more dangerous than when she was in Congress.
Liz and Dick are proud members of the MIC. Look for Liz to get a couple of board positions that pay seven figures for a once a year meeting.
They want a shooting war, because war is big business for them. Their hatred of Trump is because he slowed down their family business.
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Liz and Dick are proud members of the MIC. Look for Liz to get a couple of board positions that pay seven figures for a once a year meeting.
They want a shooting war, because war is big business for them. Their hatred of Trump is because he slowed down their family business.
Bingo. The Establishment Republicans are as bad or worse as the Democrats.
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Plus, she's fat and ugly.
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Bingo. The Establishment Republicans are as bad or worse as the Democrats.
Liz Cheney is definitely worse than any Democrat. If she were a D then people would just listen to her BS and realize that of course a D will do and say those things about Trump. But when an R says and does those things, Ds and Is and even many Rs will say "Oh shit! If an R says it about another R, it must be true". This is one of the main reasons that Trump is so damaged and cannot/will not ever win another general election and why we must find another candidate that CAN win.
But it's not all Liz's fault. I know libs that would vote for a Republican that they perceive to be honest over Biden. That is NOT Trump. And it's not all Liz Cheney's fault and it not all due to cheating.
Trump didn't just SAY pussy, he said that when you are a star you can grab them by the pussy.
Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful - I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.
And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything.
Bush: Whatever you want.
Trump: Grab them by the p****. You can do anything.
I doubt even Rush or Becky would agree with that statement, at it stands.
And he sounds an awful lot like Uncle Joe with the kissing remark.
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Liz Cheney is definitely worse than any Democrat. If she were a D then people would just listen to her BS and realize that of course a D will do and say those things about Trump. But when an R says and does those things, Ds and Is and even many Rs will say "Oh shit! If an R says it about another R, it must be true". This is one of the main reasons that Trump is so damaged and cannot/will not ever win another general election and why we must find another candidate that CAN win.
But it's not all Liz's fault. I know libs that would vote for a Republican that they perceive to be honest over Biden. That is NOT Trump. And it's not all Liz Cheney's fault and it not all due to cheating.
Trump didn't just SAY pussy, he said that when you are a star you can grab them by the pussy.
I doubt even Rush or Becky would agree with that statement, at it stands.
And he sounds an awful lot like Uncle Joe with the kissing remark.
You’re going to play that card? I thought we were past that. Locker room talk. And he was talking about adults. Trump is in his 70s. His day was back when we didn’t have the lunacy of needing to get verbal permission before making a pass at a woman. It was normal to do what he said. (In the context of already making out - not just walking past you on the street.) I’ve had guys do that back in the day and my reaction was to simply tell them to piss off which they did. I didn’t see it as sexual assault and get all traumatized. If they didn’t leave off, then that would have been sexual assault. Trump’s comment made it clear these women were consenting if not inviting.
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You’re going to play that card?
It's not a matter of me playing that card. I voted for him TWICE, even after that quote was disclosed. It is just that that is the type of reason that so many people hate Trump and why I don't believe he can win.
To ignore facts you don't like is folly. (That is the card that I play). Just as not liking or trusting anyone that Trump is afraid of is folly.
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It's not a matter of me playing that card. I voted for him TWICE, even after that quote was disclosed. It is just that that is the type of reason that so many people hate Trump and why I don't believe he can win.
To ignore facts you don't like is folly. (That is the card that I play). Just as not liking or trusting anyone that Trump is afraid of is folly.
Oh okay, you’re saying other people would not vote for him because of that. Well it didn’t hurt him in 2020.
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Liz Cheney is definitely worse than any Democrat. If she were a D then people would just listen to her BS and realize that of course a D will do and say those things about Trump. But when an R says and does those things, Ds and Is and even many Rs will say "Oh shit! If an R says it about another R, it must be true". This is one of the main reasons that Trump is so damaged and cannot/will not ever win another general election and why we must find another candidate that CAN win.
But it's not all Liz's fault. I know libs that would vote for a Republican that they perceive to be honest over Biden. That is NOT Trump. And it's not all Liz Cheney's fault and it not all due to cheating.
Trump didn't just SAY pussy, he said that when you are a star you can grab them by the pussy.
I doubt even Rush or Becky would agree with that statement, at it stands.
And he sounds an awful lot like Uncle Joe with the kissing remark.
I couldn't possibly disagree with you more.
Your argument sounds remarkably like the mantra the lame stream has been vomiting for the last ten years.
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I couldn't possibly disagree with you more.
Your argument sounds remarkably like the mantra the lame stream has been vomiting for the last ten years.
Which part(s) did you disagree with?
Did you agree with any of it?
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You’re going to play that card? I thought we were past that. Locker room talk. And he was talking about adults. Trump is in his 70s. His day was back when we didn’t have the lunacy of needing to get verbal permission before making a pass at a woman. It was normal to do what he said. (In the context of already making out - not just walking past you on the street.) I’ve had guys do that back in the day and my reaction was to simply tell them to piss off which they did. I didn’t see it as sexual assault and get all traumatized. If they didn’t leave off, then that would have been sexual assault. Trump’s comment made it clear these women were consenting if not inviting.
Well of course. This is such a tired trope, and it’s where the ridiculous “pussy” hats came from. Probably millions of shocked liberal women learned to knit those just so they could scream about a normal alpha male saying he “can” do something, not that he DID something.
In other conversations, which the media doesn’t show, President Trump has talked about the women who literally trailed around trying to catch his eye. “Gold diggers” is the euphemism but “star fuckers” is the trade name.
Going nuclear with shock over alpha male behavior just leads to gammas, betas, grifters and cheaters taking over the country. As we see happening.
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Well of course. This is such a tired trope, and it’s where the ridiculous “pussy” hats came from. Probably millions of shocked liberal women learned to knit those just so they could scream about a normal alpha male saying he “can” do something, not that he DID something.
In other conversations, which the media doesn’t show, President Trump has talked about the women who literally trailed around trying to catch his eye. “Gold diggers” is the euphemism but “star fuckers” is the trade name.
Going nuclear with shock over alpha male behavior just leads to gammas, betas, grifters and cheaters taking over the country. As we see happening.
I agree with all of that. Except the part where I detect the inference that you think I have been persuaded by those reports.
As I told Rush, I haven't. But that doesn't mean that millions and millions of other have not been persuaded. The MSM is so pervasive and consistent that they are able to sway the minds of even normally rational people. That is why I say Trump can't win. His name and reputation have been trashed beyond repair. That doesn't mean I think the charges are true, and it doesn't mean I wouldn't vote for him in a New York second if he gets the nomination.
But I think if he does get the nomination, it guarantees a D will win.
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A "D" will win no matter who the "R's" nominate because the "R's" still refuse to acknowledge voter fraud.
When you take the Blue shithole states, add in the battleground states the electoral map adds up to a win for the "D's".
For decades the democrats fought to flip states, and focused on big electoral states such as Florida and Texas. The scamdemic allowed them to take several states by vote manipulation and firmly place the win in their column.
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But I think if he does get the nomination, it guarantees a D will win.
That's exactly what the talking heads said in 2016.
A "D" will win no matter who the "R's" nominate because the "R's" still refuse to openly acknowledge voter fraud as they're a part of it; because they've found they can benefit from and increase their power from that fraud.
We have been betrayed.
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That's exactly what the talking heads said in 2016.
We have been betrayed.
Do you deny Trump 2023 is different than Trump 2016?
I campaigned for Cruz in 2016, and Cruz won Wisconsin.
I campaigned for Trump in 2016.
I campaigned for Trump in 2020.
I now think Trump is damaged goods, and while he will lock up the 1/3rd that are GOP faithful, he will not get the middle third, who probably don’t want to back a guy who is living in the past, obsessing with 2020 and ignoring 2024-2028.
I also want a guy who can give me two back-to-back terms, and who is a successful conservative governor who turned a purple state red.
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Do you deny Trump 2023 is different than Trump 2016?
I campaigned for Cruz in 2016, and Cruz won Wisconsin.
I campaigned for Trump in 2016.
I campaigned for Trump in 2020.
I now think Trump is damaged goods, and while he will lock up the 1/3rd that are GOP faithful, he will not get the middle third, who probably don’t want to back a guy who is living in the past, obsessing with 2020 and ignoring 2024-2028.
I also want a guy who can give me two back-to-back terms, and who is a successful conservative governor who turned a purple state red.
He’s ignoring 2024-2028? I thought he posted a long list of his plans.
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Do you deny Trump 2023 is different than Trump 2016?
I don't see how he's different. Please enlighten me on how he has changed -- not your perspective of him, but how he has actually changed.
I campaigned for Cruz in 2016, and Cruz won Wisconsin.
So did I, but I'm glad he didn't win.
I campaigned for Trump in 2016.
Ditto.
I campaigned for Trump in 2020.
Ditto.
I now think Trump is damaged goods, and while he will lock up the 1/3rd that are GOP faithful, he will not get the middle third, who probably don’t want to back a guy who is living in the past, obsessing with 2020 and ignoring 2024-2028.
I'm obsessed with 2020. Do you not grasp the significance and impact of having an election stolen? And it was stolen.
I also want a guy who can give me two back-to-back terms, and who is a successful conservative governor who turned a purple state red.
Trump gave you back-to-back terms, one of which was stolen by the establishment.
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Stan, go campaign for DeSantis if he runs, whatever. Put up “Trump’s Time is Past” signs, whatever. It’s a semi-free country, and I’m sure no cabal or globalists will come after you, because they’re fine with Anybody But Trump.
The trouble is, Stan, elwoodblues is absolutely correct in the post above.
Pretending that elections matter now is like painting the house when the plumbing and wiring are shot and the foundation is crumbling.
There may be someone out there better than Trump, but DeSantis isn’t that person.
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Stan, go campaign for DeSantis if he runs, whatever. Put up “Trump’s Time is Past” signs, whatever. It’s a semi-free country, and I’m sure no cabal or globalists will come after you, because they’re fine with Anybody But Trump.
The trouble is, Stan, elwoodblues is absolutely correct in the post above.
Pretending that elections matter now is like painting the house when the plumbing and wiring are shot and the foundation is crumbling.
There may be someone out there better than Trump, but DeSantis isn’t that person.
Nailed it!
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Stan, go campaign for DeSantis if he runs, whatever. Put up “Trump’s Time is Past” signs, whatever. It’s a semi-free country, and I’m sure no cabal or globalists will come after you, because they’re fine with Anybody But Trump.
The trouble is, Stan, elwoodblues is absolutely correct in the post above.
Pretending that elections matter now is like painting the house when the plumbing and wiring are shot and the foundation is crumbling.
There may be someone out there better than Trump, but DeSantis isn’t that person.
I’ll address both of your posts here.
What, exactly, do you think Trump can do about 2020? Please list the things that need to be done to change the outcome of the 2020 election.
By the way, I think it was stolen too. But I can’t cry over spilled milk. We have to look forward, not in the past.
“Pretending that elections matter now is like painting the house when the plumbing and wiring are shot and the foundation is crumbling.”
I keep hearing this shit over and over and over. Precisely what is your solution then? Give up? Crawl into a MAGA cave and hope FedGov leaves you alone? Are you a quitter, Becky? Because that’s what it sounds like when you, lucifer, and people like Elwood make those statements.
I prefer to keep fighting, so stop telling me it’s futile. I may die trying, but I’ll die with my pride intact knowing I’ve tried to create a better place for my daughter and my remaining years.
I just don’t understand you people.
As for your last sentence, we all have our opinions. Maybe DeSantis isn’t better then Trump. But what DeSantis HAS is (1) a better chance of winning a general election (which is all that matters) and (2) can give me two terms.
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Im not a quitter, far from it.
But I’m a realist. Again, we now have less than 2 years, and I’m waiting to see how any of these candidates can overcome the vote fraud. So far the only one addressing it is Trump.
We are in this mess because of a stolen election. We let the GOP and RNC just walk away, and now we hear “it’s time to move on”. BULLSHIT. It’s time to stop it, and hold those accountable.
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Im not a quitter, far from it.
But I’m a realist. Again, we now have less than 2 years, and I’m waiting to see how any of these candidates can overcome the vote fraud. So far the only one addressing it is Trump.
We are in this mess because of a stolen election. We let the GOP and RNC just walk away, and now we hear “it’s time to move on”. BULLSHIT. It’s time to stop it, and hold those accountable.
Trump can talk about it,
But DeSantis did something about it in Florida. And if we could all get behind him and get him elected, then he could use the office to help do some of the same things nationwide. I'll take someone that accomplishes something over someone that talks about it any day.
Trump did a lot of good as President, but it seems that most of you think election reform is the most important thing. If that is true, thenDeSantis has shown that he is the best one to address that.
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But DeSantis did something about it in Florida. And if we could all get behind him and get him elected, then he could use the office to help do some of the same things nationwide. I'll take someone that accomplishes something over someone that talks about it any day.
Trump did a lot of good as President, but it seems that most of you think election reform is the most important thing. If that is true, thenDeSantis has shown that he is the best one to address that.
DeSantis is not the governor of GA, PA, MI, WI, AZ, NM or NV. While he did a good job with Florida, he has little to no impact on other states and how they hold their elections. For that, DeSantis needs the party and a coalition to encourage states to change. He doesn't have that.
The 2024 election is 19 months away, and as of right now little to nothing is being done in the battleground states to combat vote fraud. This should have started the day after election day in 2020, but the UniParty has finally perfected a method to stay in power, thus the constant cry "to let's move on and forget 2020".
Electoral math says it all. No republican can win without the battleground states. Presidential elections are held at the state level, not federal. So saying a president can stop the vote fraud at individual state level is fantasy.
The republicans and the UniParty are fine with the current situation, hence why no effort is going into correcting it.
Election reform IS the most important thing, and the clock is ticking.
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DeSantis is not the governor of GA, PA, MI, WI, AZ, NM or NV. While he did a good job with Florida, he has little to no impact on other states and how they hold their elections. For that, DeSantis needs the party and a coalition to encourage states to change. He doesn't have that.
The 2024 election is 19 months away, and as of right now little to nothing is being done in the battleground states to combat vote fraud. This should have started the day after election day in 2020, but the UniParty has finally perfected a method to stay in power, thus the constant cry "to let's move on and forget 2020".
Electoral math says it all. No republican can win without the battleground states. Presidential elections are held at the state level, not federal. So saying a president can stop the vote fraud at individual state level is fantasy.
The republicans and the UniParty are fine with the current situation, hence why no effort is going into correcting it.
Election reform IS the most important thing, and the clock is ticking.
^^^^^This! All if it. Another Establishment Republican just continues the fraud and status quo of becoming a colony of China. I'm afraid until the Continental Army rises from the grave we a are toast and continuing the traditional ways of voting and campaigning for candidates we support is FUTILE.
Sorry Stan, we need a PARADIGM SHIFT not a continuation of today's norm.
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I’ll address both of your posts here.
What, exactly, do you think Trump can do about 2020? Please list the things that need to be done to change the outcome of the 2020 election.
By the way, I think it was stolen too. But I can’t cry over spilled milk. We have to look forward, not in the past.
“Pretending that elections matter now is like painting the house when the plumbing and wiring are shot and the foundation is crumbling.”
I keep hearing this shit over and over and over. Precisely what is your solution then? Give up? Crawl into a MAGA cave and hope FedGov leaves you alone? Are you a quitter, Becky? Because that’s what it sounds like when you, lucifer, and people like Elwood make those statements.
I prefer to keep fighting, so stop telling me it’s futile. I may die trying, but I’ll die with my pride intact knowing I’ve tried to create a better place for my daughter and my remaining years.
I just don’t understand you people.
As for your last sentence, we all have our opinions. Maybe DeSantis isn’t better then Trump. But what DeSantis HAS is (1) a better chance of winning a general election (which is all that matters) and (2) can give me two terms.
President Trump can do exactly nothing about the stolen 2020 election except call it out, as we saw him do back then and as Lucifer has stated. And that would be all that DeSantis could do too. Apparently, election security is a state issue. President Trump made several video speeches after the steal, stating what we all saw and listing the facts. Clearly, he was calling all of us to action. Biden’s “win” was not just statistically improbable, it was impossible. But the President’s videos were silenced when Facebook and Twitter removed his accounts on what I call the night of the long knives. Some progress has been made … those accounts are restored but it is too late. The puppet usurper sits at the helm and his handlers literally control our federal government.
Hence, what remains to heal the current compromised “elections” is a mass dive in every precinct by the citizenry to root out fraud and restore election security. A nationwide movement for one day, show identification, paper ballots, and heavy oversight, plus limits on how long poll workers can serve. Reduce all precinct sizes to no more than 1,000 people. Eliminate the enormous “ballot counting” facilities that process millions of ballots … they uniformly have “emergency” shutdowns during which the cheating is accelerated to create the needed fraudulent votes to win.
President Trump IS talking about most of these things in his campaign. Frankly, it says a lot for the man that he did what he could after 2020, refused with dignity to attend Biden’s faux inauguration, and then gracefully went back to Florida where he continues to this day to promote what he consistently promoted from 2015 on: the restoration of our government to Americans and the securing of our sovereignty, borders, energy, economy and military.
I did think there existed an entity called the Federal Bureau of Elections. I haven’t researched it, or its silence if it does exist, but the state of election security nationally screams that any such entity has been totally compromised. Much like the DOJ. The cleanout and rigorous holding to integrity of our federal agencies is another subject and I suspect can only be done by an outsider President like Donald Trump who is committed to not just draining the swamp but eliminating it. But that person would have to be ELECTED, and at the moment that is IMPOSSIBLE.
Looking forward does not mean ignoring the crumbling foundation. That’s all I’m saying. I did say, Stan, do what you want. Your opinion is yours. I respect you always. But to create the better America you want for your daughter and yourself, putting your energy into election security will be the best use of it, in my extremely humble and possibly wrong opinion.
You keep using terms like “chance of winning” and “two terms,” which, to those of who see clearly a smug, unworried cabal of globalists, Dems and RINOs who know they control key states and precincts into perpetuity, seems naive. If you’re hoping for fraud-overwhelming numbers for a Republican candidate, Stan, that’s exactly what Uniparty wants you to do … have hope and not fix fraud.
President Trump in 2020 had the most votes of any candidate ever. It was overwhelming, a landslide, epic.
And they stole it.
I’ll close with this. Even if election security is restored, we still need candidates who relentlessly strive to do what President Trump did for America and Americans, and what he continues to do for them. While President Trump is far from perfect, I see very little of that consistency in patriotism and service to our cause in ANY other politician today.
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Apparently, election security is a state issue. President Trump made several video speeches after the steal, stating what we all saw and listing the facts.
Not apparently, it is a state matter as per the Constitution. The Federal Election Commission concerns itself with campaign finance law and donor funding. But control over elections is completely controlled by each state and you are correct that local grassroots action is the only thing that can fix it.
I am also beginning to believe that no amount of landslide can overcome the cheating. They cheated openly in 2020 and 2024 and got virtually zero pushback from the Republicans who could actually do something about it. Kari Lake is trying in AZ but compromised judges there and everywhere are blocking it, including the fucking Supreme Court. If the conservative Trump endorsed SC won’t take on the matter, there’s little hope.
We do what we can on the ground, try to play their game with ballot harvesting etc., but without state legislatures correcting the main problems (voter ID and universal mail in ballots) I don’t think it will be enough.
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DeSantis is not the governor of GA, PA, MI, WI, AZ, NM or NV. While he did a good job with Florida, he has little to no impact on other states and how they hold their elections. For that, DeSantis needs the party and a coalition to encourage states to change. He doesn't have that.
You think Trump has a coalition to encourage states to change? Seriously?
DeSantis has a roadmap. Trump has chatter. What exactly can Trump do about voter fraud?
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You think Trump has a coalition to encourage states to change? Seriously?
DeSantis has a roadmap. Trump has chatter. What exactly can Trump do about voter fraud?
Trump has grassroots support wrt vote integrity. Im still waiting to hear how DeSantis is going to approach it.
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Trump has grassroots support wrt vote integrity. Im still waiting to hear how DeSantis is going to approach it.
Yeah, Steve Bannon did what he did for Trump, not DeSantis.
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^^^^^This! All if it. Another Establishment Republican just continues the fraud and status quo of becoming a colony of China. I'm afraid until the Continental Army rises from the grave we a are toast and continuing the traditional ways of voting and campaigning for candidates we support is FUTILE.
Sorry Stan, we need a PARADIGM SHIFT not a continuation of today's norm.
A co-founder of the House Freedom Caucus is now an establishment Republican? Come on Anthony.
At this point, I look at Trump in the way I looked at and voted for Ross Perot in 1992. And I look at Trump the way I didn’t vote for Ross Perot in 1996.
Perot was my paradigm shift.
Perot went from 19MM votes in 1992 to 8MM votes in 1996. Did his message change? No, not really. So what changed? His electability. And after his loss, his influence faded away to nothing.
People like me wised up and realized what we did in 1992 - we ushered in Bill Clinton by voting for Perot. We TOTALLY fucked up. That was OUR FAULT. Look at the Wikipedia page on the 1992 election, and see how many states Bush would have won if 2/3 of the Perot votes went to Bush. It would have been a landslide. Instead, we created the damage they both Bill and Hillary have inflicted on our country since then.
I see no pathway for Trump to win the electoral college in 2024.
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Trump has grassroots support wrt vote integrity. Im still waiting to hear how DeSantis is going to approach it.
Then your complaint should be with his grass roots, who haven’t done shit since 2020 on vote integrity.
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Then your complaint should be with his grass roots, who haven’t done shit since 2020 on vote integrity.
You keep misreading me. I don’t have a dog in this fight, and I’m awaiting to see who the nominee is going to be.
Im pointing out what I’m seeing right now. As usual, the republicans in general are approaching this election as if there are no problems, and taking the “Karl Rove Approach” which will guarantee them a loss no matter who runs.
Trump still has a strong voter base, although the establishment and dims are trying to paint a different picture.
In order for DeSantis to have a chance, he will have to get that base on his side. Im waiting to see what his message is and how he can articulate that.
Im still not convinced that Trump will be the nominee. 12 months a lot can happen, and change. But I’m also not sure DeSantis can pull it off either.
Until I see movement in voter integrity, I still predict a President Newsom.
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A co-founder of the House Freedom Caucus is now an establishment Republican? Come on Anthony.
At this point, I look at Trump in the way I looked at and voted for Ross Perot in 1992. And I look at Trump the way I didn’t vote for Ross Perot in 1996.
Perot was my paradigm shift.
Perot went from 19MM votes in 1992 to 8MM votes in 1996. Did his message change? No, not really. So what changed? His electability. And after his loss, his influence faded away to nothing.
People like me wised up and realized what we did in 1992 - we ushered in Bill Clinton by voting for Perot. We TOTALLY fucked up. That was OUR FAULT. Look at the Wikipedia page on the 1992 election, and see how many states Bush would have won if 2/3 of the Perot votes went to Bush. It would have been a landslide. Instead, we created the damage they both Bill and Hillary have inflicted on our country since then.
I see no pathway for Trump to win the electoral college in 2024.
I think he'll become an Establishment Republican. I may be wrong. We'll see how much, if any, he sells out.
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I think he'll become an Establishment Republican. I may be wrong. We'll see how much, if any, he sells out.
DeSantis will have to rely on the establishment if he gets the nomination. If he doesn't, they will cut him off at the knees.
I can tell you of the various PACs supporting DeSantis, they are being run by establishment types.