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Pilot Zone => Pilot Zone => Topic started by: acrogimp on July 31, 2017, 10:45:40 PM

Title: Holy shit Garmin finally did it!
Post by: acrogimp on July 31, 2017, 10:45:40 PM
Garmin just released a version of the Android Pilot App with Synthetic Vision, only 4 years after putting it into iOS.

Hello cheap Yak EFIS!

'Gimp
Title: Re: Holy shit Garmin finally did it!
Post by: Little Joe on August 01, 2017, 04:06:06 AM
Garmin just released a version of the Android Pilot App with Synthetic Vision, only 4 years after putting it into iOS.

Hello cheap Yak EFIS!

'Gimp
Just yesterday I was thinking if FF were to move to android, I could finally get rid of IOS.

I have to be at the airport in 10 minutes, so I have no time to research it, but can you give me a brief rundown of some of the benefits of the Garmin App?  I have paid zero attention to anything Android for years because I didn't want to be tempted to have TWO devices.  After all, I am no Hillary.

What Garmin panel devices can talk to Garmin Pilot?
Title: Re: Holy shit Garmin finally did it!
Post by: Anthony on August 01, 2017, 05:49:55 AM
My buddy just dropped another $27K into his panel with a Garmin GTN 750, remote transponder, WAAS, and reworked his entire panel which already had a 530, and full King Flight Director.  It's a 1976 V35B with Colemill Starfire conversion, and four blade Q-tip prop.  I don't know if the GTN 750 has SV though. 
Title: Re: Holy shit Garmin finally did it!
Post by: acrogimp on August 01, 2017, 09:17:21 AM
Just yesterday I was thinking if FF were to move to android, I could finally get rid of IOS.

I have to be at the airport in 10 minutes, so I have no time to research it, but can you give me a brief rundown of some of the benefits of the Garmin App?  I have paid zero attention to anything Android for years because I didn't want to be tempted to have TWO devices.  After all, I am no Hillary.

What Garmin panel devices can talk to Garmin Pilot?
Garmin Pilot App is a good EFB/Moving Map/Flight Planning tool.  With approved sources it will connect to and share data with installed avionics, and on it's own is a pretty powerful EFB/Moving Map.

Synthetic Vision has been a missing feature for Android for 4 years since introduced on the iOS version - real sore spot among Android users - I ran an hour long test yesterday with the DEMO function where it follows a flight plan and the data/situational awareness is awesome.

Base app is $79/yr, IFR is another $70 or 80 I think and includes geo-referenced approach plates, etc.  Has Garmin's Safe-Taxi charts (also geo-referenced) for navigating around the airport.

I have always liked the interface and base feature set but was actually about ready to give up on them until this Synthetic Vision release.

Probably going to pull the AI's and DG's from the Yak along with inverter and dyno-gyro and put in 2 8" tablets, one in each cockpit - save over 100-150 lbs and get a little color in the cockpit - I can fly the Yak with zero instruments so if the AI/DG goes down it's no big deal.

'Gimp
Title: Re: Holy shit Garmin finally did it!
Post by: acrogimp on August 06, 2017, 06:23:07 PM
I blew out my MCL in my left knee (good leg) 3 weeks ago and am nowhere near healthy/flexible enough yet to fly the Yak or anything else.

But, I have run the demo mode on simulated flights to near 2 hours just to see how it runs and other than being a bit more of a drain on battery life and creating more heat (presumably more work in the GPU/CPU to render the 3D synthetic vision imagery) I am very impressed.  I expect to pull the AI's and DG's from the Yak once I am flying again or maybe at Conditional, and use a 7 or 8" tablet as a mini-EFIS since I already have a GDL 39-3D with AHRS, ADS-B In and GPS.

Gotta say, the wait was kind of ridiculous given iOS has had it for like 4 years but the implementation is pretty good.  Garmin has not updated the owner's manual yet so I am not sure if it is possible to customize elements of the synthetic vision display but as-is it is very usable and can be configured as a full synthetic vision/AI screen or split screen with a a moving map display including all the overlays and symbology of the previous version, really great tool for situational awareness including terrain and traffic and weather.

'Gimp
Title: Re: Holy shit Garmin finally did it!
Post by: nddons on August 07, 2017, 08:50:52 AM
I blew out my MCL in my left knee (good leg) 3 weeks ago and am nowhere near healthy/flexible enough yet to fly the Yak or anything else.

But, I have run the demo mode on simulated flights to near 2 hours just to see how it runs and other than being a bit more of a drain on battery life and creating more heat (presumably more work in the GPU/CPU to render the 3D synthetic vision imagery) I am very impressed.  I expect to pull the AI's and DG's from the Yak once I am flying again or maybe at Conditional, and use a 7 or 8" tablet as a mini-EFIS since I already have a GDL 39-3D with AHRS, ADS-B In and GPS.

Gotta say, the wait was kind of ridiculous given iOS has had it for like 4 years but the implementation is pretty good.  Garmin has not updated the owner's manual yet so I am not sure if it is possible to customize elements of the synthetic vision display but as-is it is very usable and can be configured as a full synthetic vision/AI screen or split screen with a a moving map display including all the overlays and symbology of the previous version, really great tool for situational awareness including terrain and traffic and weather.

'Gimp

Yikes. I just had an MRI last week to confirm a complete tear of my ACL 8 weeks ago. Oddly, I have very little pain.  Did 6 weeks of PT and worked at OSH with a neoprene compression sleeve, Advil, and evening medication of juniper-based beverages, and all is well. I'll find out next week if surgery is advised. I was shocked to learn that they don't always surgically fix ACLs if you can stabilize the joint with your quads and hamstrings.

Good luck, Gimp.
Title: Re: Holy shit Garmin finally did it!
Post by: invflatspin on August 07, 2017, 12:01:26 PM
first topic. At this point, all the added bells and whistles on top of GPS moving charts is fluff. Sorry. I use the free Avare download for Android and an inexpensive clone tablet with a remote GPS sensor. It's all working fine, but really - I'm an anachronism as I keep my head outside pretty much all the time. I'm guessing there is some benefit to syn vision, but really, if one needs that kind of assist to keep from merging with terrain, maybe there are other 'issues' at work?

Knee work. I've been a high performance skier for decades. Which means I've had multiple work done on both knees. loz, really - I am a good skier, I just go hell-for-bent fast and sometimes have to dodge people. the advances in the past 20 years in soft tissue remediation are nothing but miracles. John Elway played many years successfully with no ACL, although he was not really that mobile, it can be done.

Option 1: No replacement, let the other ligaments and muscles take up slack. If you are in decent condition, not too overweight, and don't regularly strain your knee with skiing, basketball, or other high impact events, leaving it alone, and letting the other ligaments and muscles develop would be viable course of action. However - know that the joint will NEVER be as flexible and as strong as it was from the factory. John Elway was the exception, not the rule.

Option 2: Allograft, taking tendon tissue from a cadaver and using that as your new ligament. While this is suitable, I have always wondered just how safe the tissue from the cadaver is going to be long term. Of course, they check for various serious conditions, but really you are putting foreign tissue into your body. It scared me away.

Option 3: Autograft, harvesting tissue from the person who needs the new ligament. Usually the hamstring. This is what I have done each time I had knee work. It is more painful, it requires longer therapy, but it has the greatest success in terms of strength and flexibility. It is also the most expensive, and can require another incision in some cases. This was almost never done 25 years ago, but concerns about HIV/AIDS and other life threatening problems led to the development of autografting, and is now well accepted in any surgical procedure.

Your surgical MD will likely advise an allograft. I don't know why, and I don't care, but each of my autograph repairs work flawlessly. The last one was done about 10 years ago, and I still ski plenty fast, but age, and vision are keeping me from going as fast as I used to. Also, would prefer not to go for another knee job again.

After surgery, if you choose to get it fixed. PT is just as important as the actual surgical repair. Do not skimp and do not rush it. Follow the schedule carefully for best results. Once you get to ~30 weeks, you can begin a more aggressive schedule for athletes. By 1 year, I was back to full strength and mobility. I was just over 50 for my last repair.

Finally, a word of caution should you choose an allograph. There have been cases where the tissue did not react well, and some have been through a second operation to remove allograph tissue, and replace with autograph, or just leave it out. I don't have the percentages, and I don't even know if you could get a percentage from your Ortho surgeon, just know that it is real. In some cases also, there is a rejection problem with a build up of edema in the blood stream as the repair is cleaned up by the patient's own cleaning system, and can lead to clots. Going on a regimen of thinners may be indicated, but every allograph is different, and your Ortho will guide you on that.
Title: Re: Holy shit Garmin finally did it!
Post by: nddons on August 07, 2017, 01:13:59 PM
Thanks for the good info, and sorry for the hijack, Gimp.
Title: Re: Holy shit Garmin finally did it!
Post by: Jaybird180 on September 20, 2017, 10:04:04 AM
If you're going to affix tablets to the cockpit, may as well mount them to heatsinks and run ships power to them. with the right model you might be able to get rid of the battery to shed more weight and heat.