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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: invflatspin on December 24, 2017, 01:52:08 PM

Title: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: invflatspin on December 24, 2017, 01:52:08 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/12/24/woman-claims-united-gave-her-seat-to-democrat-rep-sheila-jackson-lee.html

This is why I canceled my United acct, and no longer fly them. Stuff like this really burns me. My company uses United as the preferred carrier. Every time I pick another vendor, I have to fill out this long, complicated form to justify my choice. Lately, I've been just writing that UAL is YOUR preferred carrier, but they act like petulant kids, and treat customers like dirt, and I don't want to sit on their nasty planes, with their old hag bitchy staff. The VP(whom I semi-report to) called me after last trip and asked if I could be more factual, and less confrontational in my reasoning about flight choice. He suggested I simply write 'lower fare, better schedule'. I just booked a flight through our service, and used ' lower fare, better schedule'. Hope I never have to get on another UAL owned/run product again.

Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 24, 2017, 02:56:30 PM
In this case who do we believe?
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: nddons on December 24, 2017, 03:35:07 PM
I have no doubt politicians pull this shit with regularity, and the Airlines comply given the regulated nature of the business.
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: Anthony on December 24, 2017, 03:40:38 PM
Hmmmmm.  Her name is LEE!  Shouldn't she be BANNED?
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: Jim Logajan on December 24, 2017, 04:47:45 PM
I have no doubt politicians pull this shit with regularity, and the Airlines comply given the regulated nature of the business.

While trying to find an earlier quid pro quo incident I ran across this one that shows what can happen if an airline doesn’t accede:

Air France Says Crew Was Arrested and Interrogated for Not Upgrading Politician's Daughter in Argentina

http://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/air-france-arrested-argentina-politician-daughter (http://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/air-france-arrested-argentina-politician-daughter)
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: Jim Logajan on December 24, 2017, 04:58:52 PM
Ah - found the story I vaguely recalled: it also involved United, which I’d forgotten:

https://skift.com/2015/09/09/the-chairmans-flight-that-got-uniteds-ceo-fired/ (https://skift.com/2015/09/09/the-chairmans-flight-that-got-uniteds-ceo-fired/)
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: Number7 on December 26, 2017, 07:45:54 PM
Hmmmmm.  Her name is LEE!  Shouldn't she be BANNED?

She has TWO racist names, not one. JACKSON-LEE. It's too much to imagine. A racist, black, hag like her, holding TWO racist names.

She should be DOUBLE Banned.

I'm so triggered...
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 27, 2017, 05:47:01 AM
United says the lady canceled her flight and she say otherwise and they both claim to have proof.
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: Little Joe on December 27, 2017, 06:57:44 AM
United says the lady canceled her flight and she say otherwise and they both claim to have proof.
I suspect that she did (accidentally) cancel the flight.

I have tried to confirm flights before and the web site menus can be confusing.  It is easy to accidentally exit a web page not realizing that an option had been selected by default.  Then you think you are exiting without changing anything, you are actually accepting a change you didn't know you made.
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: Lucifer on December 27, 2017, 07:15:00 AM
I seriously doubt the passenger cancelled her own flight.  If UAL feels they have the proof, they sure don't want to show it.

 And there was a seat in coach that Rep Jackson-Lee could have taken.  But we can't have Congressional Royalty mixing with the serfs, I mean, could you imagine?

 UAL pulled a fast one and was hoping the $500 voucher would shut up the passenger.
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: Anthony on December 27, 2017, 07:51:22 AM
Why would United give her a $500 voucher if she cancelled her flight?
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: Little Joe on December 27, 2017, 07:58:49 AM
Why would United give her a $500 voucher if she cancelled her flight?
Because after the bad publicity for beating the crap out of a passenger, they are gunshy.
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: invflatspin on December 27, 2017, 09:48:52 AM
the 'proof' that United has is from their own internal reservations system. Anyone with a United badge can go in there and create havoc. So - I have little or no trust in their 'proof'. Further, it's impossible for a passenger to prove a negative, as in - I did not cancel my ticket. Makes it easy to blame the passenger.

Further, we have the admitted statement from the other representative who told the passenger that he knows SJL has done this before, and it's common knowledge inside the halls of congress that she uses her power to get her way.

Next - if United has 'proof' that the pax cancelled her ticket that is no effing way they would put her back on that flight unless she paid some kind of walk-up fare($$$$$$$).

Also, United would not offer her $300, later upped to $500 unless they knew they were wrong, and wanted to buy her silence.

But - most telling to me, is for the gate agent or stew(forgot which), who got in the pax face and said 'am I going to have a problem with you? Do I need to remove you from this flight?'(or thereabouts), trying to get her tossed off after taking a picture.

All this adds up to United being the shits that I know they are by corp policy. It amazes me they stay in business and even make a profit. I will never get on another United plane again, unless by force. It's all evidence of the corrupt governance, as it runs from the top down. He even privately blamed that doctor victim for causing himself to be drug off a flight in a bloody heap.
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: Rush on December 27, 2017, 11:04:54 AM
I can believe either side actually.  I give my 1 year old grandson my phone and let him walk around with it (so he will love me more than his parents  ;D) and when I get it back the icons are all rearranged and settings are changed. He's not purposely doing anything of course, just practicing touchscreen stuffs.  So I can easily believe anything can happen with a phone app.  For that matter it may not even require a mistake on your own end. Crossed wires and data glitches are not unheard of.  I believe the passenger didn't purposely cancel the flight, but I can sure believe United might have seen a cancellation on their end.

But - I would stop there IF this were any regular person that took her seat.  Since it is an "elite" politician, and I very easily believe a Democrat employee would have no qualms bumping someone for one of their own, it's way too much of a coincidence.

It was deliberate.  But whether it was a rogue act on the part of a United lowby, or whether someone in supervisor capacity gave the order, I can believe either.
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: nddons on December 27, 2017, 11:16:37 AM
I can believe either side actually.  I give my 1 year old grandson my phone and let him walk around with it (so he will love me more than his parents  ;D) and when I get it back the icons are all rearranged and settings are changed. He's not purposely doing anything of course, just practicing touchscreen stuffs.  So I can easily believe anything can happen with a phone app.  For that matter it may not even require a mistake on your own end. Crossed wires and data glitches are not unheard of.  I believe the passenger didn't purposely cancel the flight, but I can sure believe United might have seen a cancellation on their end.

But - I would stop there IF this were any regular person that took her seat.  Since it is an "elite" politician, and I very easily believe a Democrat employee would have no qualms bumping someone for one of their own, it's way too much of a coincidence.

It was deliberate.  But whether it was a rogue act on the part of a United lowby, or whether someone in supervisor capacity gave the order, I can believe either.
I was going respond in disagreement u til I read your last two paragraphs. I agree completely. If it was Joe Schmoe who got an upgrade due to this “mistake,” that would be one thing. But for it to be one of 535 self-important “rulers” is virtually impossible to believe is a mistake.
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: nddons on December 27, 2017, 11:43:42 AM
How timely:

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2017/12/26/new-tell-story-reveals-cruel-selfish-downright-bizarre-behavior-democratic-rep.-sheila-jackson-lee/?utm_content=buffer6935b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: Lucifer on December 27, 2017, 12:14:51 PM
Like I said earlier, she is congressional royalty, she can’t be expected to sit among the peasants in coach.
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: nddons on December 27, 2017, 12:46:35 PM
Like I said earlier, she is congressional royalty, she can’t be expected to sit among the peasants in coach.
I’m surprised the pax wasn’t put in handcuffs after daring to photograph the queen who expects to be treated as a queen.

I’m sure she’ll find out shortly that the IRS has an unnatural interest in her last 3 tax returns.
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on December 27, 2017, 02:57:26 PM
I will never get on another United plane again, unless by force.

I'm sure they can accommodate you.
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: Number7 on December 27, 2017, 03:39:40 PM
How timely:

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2017/12/26/new-tell-story-reveals-cruel-selfish-downright-bizarre-behavior-democratic-rep.-sheila-jackson-lee/?utm_content=buffer6935b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

That article reads like a treatise on how to recognize mental illness in low information citizens.
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: Little Joe on December 27, 2017, 05:11:37 PM
I'm sure they can accommodate you.
I thought United forced you OFF, not ON!
Title: Re: United behaving poorly - again
Post by: invflatspin on December 27, 2017, 05:31:43 PM
I'm sure they can accommodate you.

Hehe - guessing if I worked for United I'd be a bit 'tightly wrapped' too. :o