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Title: Gas prices
Post by: Old Crow on March 04, 2022, 11:43:16 AM
Yesterday as I was driving around I noticed gas prices were $3.45 to $3.50/gallon.  Today the same stations are $3.95/gallon give or take a few cents.  Thank you Biden!  Asshole....  Of course other reasons why the increase but I believe the current Resident in the White House is the main one.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Mr Pou on March 04, 2022, 11:58:08 AM
Remember long ago Obama stated that $6 gas would be good for America.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 04, 2022, 12:36:44 PM
1/18/2021  $2.109
3/3/2022    $3.699

Increase of 75%

Yesterday I did see a $3.799 and a $3.899
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: nddons on March 04, 2022, 01:22:49 PM
I paid 3.59 yesterday. $108 for 30 gal in my F-150.

Building back better all right. All the way back to 2009-2017.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 04, 2022, 01:26:23 PM
But at least no mean tweets!

 You guys should be grateful!
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Bamaflyer on March 04, 2022, 02:06:15 PM
Few days ago filled up wife’s car at $3.18 at Wal Mart. Few hours later stop to fill up my truck and it’d had gone up to $3.45.  Guess it’s like good wine, age increases the price? 🤔🙄
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 04, 2022, 03:16:01 PM
Peppermint Patty has declared it is the fault of Ukraine.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 04, 2022, 03:23:00 PM
Peppermint Patty has declared it is the fault of Ukraine.

Right on cue.

  This whole debacle was created to give the admin someone to blame everything on, and to conveniently drive up gas prices to force Americans off fossil fuels.

 We are being played.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Anthony on March 05, 2022, 03:24:56 AM
Right on cue.

  This whole debacle was created to give the admin someone to blame everything on, and to conveniently drive up gas prices to force Americans off fossil fuels.

 We are being played.

This Administration loves this war.  I paid $4/gal yesterday.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 05, 2022, 06:41:09 AM
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 05, 2022, 07:21:12 AM
Diesel is almost $4.50 here. (My car burns diesel.)   It was $2.50 under Trump.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 05, 2022, 07:26:31 AM
It's going higher.   Exactly what the leftist are after.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 05, 2022, 07:53:23 AM
They are once again being brazen on what the ultimate goal is, and if they need to destroy the economy and people's lives they are perfectly OK with that.


https://www.mediaite.com/news/just-asking-fox-news-reporter-taken-aback-when-psaki-throws-question-back-at-her-in-withering-fashion/?utm_source=mostpopular

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MS. HEINRICH: On gas, you just said that, you know, less supply raises prices, it’s not in our strategic interest to reduce the supply. We also know, you know, the president as recently as yesterday talked about increasing domestic manufacturing to bring down prices on inflated items like goods. So why not apply the same logic to energy and increase domestic production here?

MS. PSAKI: Well, there are 9000 approved oil leases that the oil companies are not tapping into currently. So I would ask them that question.

MS. HEINRICH: Is there nothing that the administration can do to get those providers back to pre-pandemic levels?

MS. PSAKI: Do you think the oil companies don’t have enough money to drill on the places that have been preapproved?

MS. HEINRICH: Just asking.

MS. PSAKI: I would, I would point that question to them and we can talk about it more tomorrow when you learn more.

MS. HEINRICH: Do you think that opening the Keystone pipeline and having more energy-friendly policies might do that?

MS. PSAKI: The Keystone Pipeline has never been operational. It would take years for that to have any impact. I know a number of members of Congress have suggested that, but that is a proposed solution that has no relationship or would have no impact on what the problem is. We hear all agree is an issue.

MS. HEINRICH: So during those years where it would take to bring down prices, as you’re saying, we should just continue to buy Russian oil?

MS. PSAKI: Well, again, Jacqui, I think you’re familiar with a number of steps. We’ve taken a historic release from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. (crosstalk) Well, let me finish what we can do over time and what this is all a reminder of in the president’s view. Is there a need to reduce our reliance on oil. The Europeans need to do that. We need to do that, if we do more to invest in clean energy, more to invest in other sources of energy. That’s exactly what we can do to prevent this from happening in the future. We welcome any Republicans from joining us in that effort. Go ahead.

MS. HEINRICH: As long as we’re buying Russian oil, though, aren’t we financing the war?

MS. PSAKI: Well, Jacqui, again, it’s only about 10 percent of what we’re importing. I’ve not made any announcement about any decision on that front. But our objective here and our focus is making sure that any step we take maximizes the impact on President Putin and minimizes it on the American people. And anyone who’s calling for an end to the carveout should be clear that that would raise prices.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 05, 2022, 08:21:05 AM
They are once again being brazen on what the ultimate goal is, and if they need to destroy the economy and people's lives they are perfectly OK with that.


https://www.mediaite.com/news/just-asking-fox-news-reporter-taken-aback-when-psaki-throws-question-back-at-her-in-withering-fashion/?utm_source=mostpopular

This is all based on a complete delusion.  Even twenty years ago, when it was widely believed the world’s population, and oil consumption, would continue to rise, the reality was that we had centuries left before running out.  500 to 1000 years.  Now, with new fracking technology, plus technological progress in energy efficiency, PLUS the now known fact that we are actually facing a population implosion, the truth is we will likely never run out of oil.  Humans will go extinct before it happens.

Yet the fake cult of we’re about to run out of fossil fuel persists, the climate change religious mandate of switching from oil fueled vehicles to coal powered vehicles, the delusion that windmills and solar panels are the answer, as if mining and manufacturing for “green” energy doesn’t itself require fossil fuels.

Humanity is dependent on fossil fuel and the only way to stop that is to return to the Stone Age.  Become roaming bands of prehistoric tribes cannibalizing each other just like we did for a million years before agriculture. 

Another insane leftist delusion:  Go vegan to “save the planet.”  No more cow farts.  How the hell do you grow all the plants they want us to eat exclusively?  Fossil fuels.  We can’t feed the world pushing hand plows. 
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 05, 2022, 08:29:09 AM
This is all based on a complete delusion.  Even twenty years ago, when it was widely believed the world’s population, and oil consumption, would continue to rise, the reality was that we had centuries left before running out.  500 to 1000 years.  Now, with new fracking technology, plus technological progress in energy efficiency, PLUS the now known fact that we are actually facing a population implosion, the truth is we will likely never run out of oil.  Humans will go extinct before it happens.

Yet the fake cult of we’re about to run out of fossil fuel persists, the climate change religious mandate of switching from oil fueled vehicles to coal powered vehicles, the delusion that windmills and solar panels are the answer, as if mining and manufacturing for “green” energy doesn’t itself require fossil fuels.

Humanity is dependent on fossil fuel and the only way to stop that is to return to the Stone Age.  Become roaming bands of prehistoric tribes cannibalizing each other just like we did for a million years before agriculture. 

Another insane leftist delusion:  Go vegan to “save the planet.”  No more cow farts.  How the hell do you grow all the plants they want us to eat exclusively?  Fossil fuels.  We can’t feed the world pushing hand plows.

  It's a cult being run by people with mental disorders.   But what's even more disturbing are the people that call themselves conservatives who absolutely refuse to do anything to curtail or attempt to stop this crap. 

  Now we have Dementia Joe wanting $10billion of our money to give to Ukraine.  The Uniparty is lining up at the trough knowing another huge payday is coming.   Oh, and it will be a 2000 page bill that no one will read chocked full of more of this liberal crap.

 This country cannot and will not survive until 2024.  Our government has broken down completely.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 05, 2022, 09:29:15 AM
  It's a cult being run by people with mental disorders.   But what's even more disturbing are the people that call themselves conservatives who absolutely refuse to do anything to curtail or attempt to stop this crap. 

  Now we have Dementia Joe wanting $10billion of our money to give to Ukraine.  The Uniparty is lining up at the trough knowing another huge payday is coming.   Oh, and it will be a 2000 page bill that no one will read chocked full of more of this liberal crap.

 This country cannot and will not survive until 2024.  Our government has broken down completely.

It would have if not for Russia invading Ukraine.  Trump or DeSantis would have won in 2024 and we might have had a chance to get back to prosperity and a great America.  Now it seems more likely we will end up tangling with Russia.  Probably by proxy in Ukraine (if we aren’t already conducting covert CIA missions), possibly in Moldova, and maybe even in Finland.  Possibly directly, which can have only two outcomes: either mutual nuclear destruction, or worldwide global dictatorship, whether with Putin at the head or the globalist elite (China, Democrats and fascist technocrats) at the head.  Either way we the people are fucked.  All because the Dems cheated a pathetic puppet into heading the U.S. giving Putin the chance to make his move.

Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: nddons on March 05, 2022, 09:52:35 AM
I would love to see an accurate assessment of the number of barrels and percentage of imports coming from Russia per day or month or whatever. I have seen everything from 800,000 barrels/day (from a conservative) to 10,000 barrels/day (from a leftist.) 

It’s as accurate as the science has been accurate lately, which is to say, is completely inaccurate.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 05, 2022, 11:56:33 AM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-05/elon-musk-says-russia-s-war-means-more-oil-production-needed-now (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-05/elon-musk-says-russia-s-war-means-more-oil-production-needed-now)
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Elon Musk says more fossil fuel production is needed now, even if it’s bad for his electric car company, Tesla Inc.   

“Hate to say it, but we need to increase oil & gas output immediately,” the billionaire tweeted Saturday, as Russia’s invasion of Ukraine chokes off fuel supplies and drives up gas prices.
Musk signaled that the adoption of electric models and a wider shift to renewable energy couldn’t be accelerated fast enough to shield consumers from higher prices in the short-term.

“Obviously, this would negatively affect Tesla, but sustainable energy solutions simply cannot react instantaneously to make up for Russian oil & gas exports,” said Musk.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Anthony on March 05, 2022, 12:05:10 PM
I would love to see an accurate assessment of the number of barrels and percentage of imports coming from Russia per day or month or whatever. I have seen everything from 800,000 barrels/day (from a conservative) to 10,000 barrels/day (from a leftist.) 

It’s as accurate as the science has been accurate lately, which is to say, is completely inaccurate.

We have a huge credibility problem in today's reporting of EVERYTHING.  It's one of the biggest issues we face.  Everything has been propagandized by the Left.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Username on March 05, 2022, 12:38:51 PM
I have yet to see ANY explanation for why we're buying oil from Russia.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 05, 2022, 12:46:56 PM
I have yet to see ANY explanation for why we're buying oil from Russia.

Different kinds of crude oil, some easier to refine for certain purposes than others.
Also, it could be because a certain class of oil is fungible, buying it from producer A or B doesn't matter much so long as total cost is least. Russian oil is likely low enough in cost that even after transport costs it may be cheaper than oil produced closer.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 05, 2022, 12:47:39 PM
I have yet to see ANY explanation for why we're buying oil from Russia.

You never will.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 05, 2022, 12:50:47 PM
Russia crude oil is very low grade. 

We’re buying it because the big guy doesn’t want Putin disclosing any “details”.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Username on March 05, 2022, 12:58:09 PM
Different kinds of crude oil, some easier to refine for certain purposes than others.
Also, it could be because a certain class of oil is fungible, buying it from producer A or B doesn't matter much so long as total cost is least. Russian oil is likely low enough in cost that even after transport costs it may be cheaper than oil produced closer.
So follow the money, as with all things.  Buying from Russia is just fine as long as it's cheap oil?  The American Oligarchs keep doing business with Russian Oligarchs doing business with Chinese Oligarchs doing business with American Oligarchs and like always its the people who suffer.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on March 05, 2022, 02:39:57 PM
You never will.

Because Trump is in cahoots with Putin?
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 05, 2022, 03:15:43 PM
Because Trump is in cahoots with Putin?

No. Who else is buying Hunter Biden's paintings?
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Number7 on March 05, 2022, 05:50:09 PM
Unleaded went from 3.49 to 3.99 since yesterday, here.

Come Monday people will be pretty pissed off and blame the senile imposter, faux president fuckwad.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Anthony on March 06, 2022, 01:03:55 AM
Unleaded went from 3.49 to 3.99 since yesterday, here.

Come Monday people will be pretty pissed off and blame the senile imposter, faux president fuckwad.

Paid $4.20 yesterday for 87.  It's going up daily and not just by a few cents, more like 20 or 30.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 06, 2022, 05:32:24 AM
It’s insane.  I looked at the state of our finances yesterday. The amount we are spending on gas, food and car repair/maintenance is out of sight. And that’s just the essentials.  We’ve saved well for retirement so we’ll be okay, absent a total collapse of the economy, but what about the millions of people living paycheck to paycheck, raising families, trying to save for retirement.  Why am I concerned about them and the millionaire politicians aren’t.  You can’t tell me Biden (‘s puppet masters) give a shit about them.  They KNEW canceling keystone and banning drilling would raise oil prices. They KNOW their policies cause inflation, hurt the economy and therefore poor and working class the most.  They fucking know this or they are so fucking stupid it’s a wonder they remember to breathe.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 06, 2022, 06:01:21 AM
It’s insane.  I looked at the state of our finances yesterday. The amount we are spending on gas, food and car repair/maintenance is out of sight. And that’s just the essentials.  We’ve saved well for retirement so we’ll be okay, absent a total collapse of the economy, but what about the millions of people living paycheck to paycheck, raising families, trying to save for retirement.  Why am I concerned about them and the millionaire politicians aren’t.  You can’t tell me Biden (‘s puppet masters) give a shit about them.  They KNEW canceling keystone and banning drilling would raise oil prices. They KNOW their policies cause inflation, hurt the economy and therefore poor and working class the most.  They fucking know this or they are so fucking stupid it’s a wonder they remember to breathe.

Desperation.

  The lunatic leftist behind the puppet Biden are desperate to get their new green deal implemented, mainly because they feel if they do Americans will rally around them and keep them in power.

 They live in a bubble of the internet and social media and believe their own bullshit. They have succesfully triggered a war in which they believed would increase Biden's dismal poll numbers, get the attention away from problems in the US, and the cherry on top it would drive energy prices through the roof.   These imbeciles have convinced themselves that high energy cost will force people into green energy, which at this point is no more than unicorn farts.

 Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 06, 2022, 06:19:18 AM
... They KNEW canceling keystone and banning drilling would raise oil prices. They KNOW their policies cause inflation, hurt the economy and therefore poor and working class the most.  They fucking know this or they are so fucking stupid it’s a wonder they remember to breathe.

but but but, if you listen to what the maroons in the clown's admin claim, the keystone pipeline would take years to get online so therefore canceling it would have no impact...

right?

Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 06, 2022, 06:23:43 AM
Desperation.

  The lunatic leftist behind the puppet Biden are desperate to get their new green deal implemented, mainly because they feel if they do Americans will rally around them and keep them in power.

 They live in a bubble of the internet and social media and believe their own bullshit. They have succesfully triggered a war in which they believed would increase Biden's dismal poll numbers, get the attention away from problems in the US, and the cherry on top it would drive energy prices through the roof.   These imbeciles have convinced themselves that high energy cost will force people into green energy, which at this point is no more than unicorn farts.

 Liberalism is a mental disorder.

It’s a cult based on lies. 
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 06, 2022, 06:24:34 AM
but but but, if you listen to what the maroons in the clown's admin claim, the keystone pipeline would take years to get online so therefore canceling it would have no impact...

right?

It had an immediate impact on the 10,000 people that lost their jobs.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 06, 2022, 06:26:43 AM
Imagine what the cost of everything we buy is going to do now. I also wonder if those folks with their big motor homes will be parking them for a while.

Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Username on March 06, 2022, 06:27:41 AM
Imagine all they'd save on gas if the poor people would just go green and buy an electric car.  The cheapest one is only $30,000.  Surely poor people have that much saved up.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 06, 2022, 06:27:49 AM
My tank is almost empty, I've scheduled an appointment with the CU loan officer tomorrow.   ::)
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 06, 2022, 06:32:48 AM
Look at the potential delivery date. Other models are as far out as August.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Username on March 06, 2022, 06:35:35 AM
Look at the potential delivery date. Other models are as far out as August.
"Price includes potential incentives and gas savings of $4300"  Gas savings??
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 06, 2022, 06:43:16 AM
Imagine what the cost of everything we buy is going to do now. I also wonder if those folks with their big motor homes will be parking them for a while.

  High fuel prices will wreck the airline industry.   Recreational activities (RV, Boating, Flying, etc) will take a nose dive.  Car sales, especially trucks and SUV's will decline.

  Food and basic necessities are only going to get more expensive.   People will curtail vacations which in turn will impact the service industry and hospitality.

  Amazon peddling their Chinese made crap will continue to prosper. 


  Follow. The. Money.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 06, 2022, 06:45:56 AM
Imagine all they'd save on gas if the poor people would just go green and buy an electric car.  The cheapest one is only $30,000.  Surely poor people have that much saved up.

  The goal of the lunatic left is to force people onto public transportation (busses powered by unicorn farts) and bicycles.   No need for travel more than a couple of miles.

  Personal transportation will be reserved for the elite class.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 06, 2022, 07:01:25 AM
  High fuel prices will wreck the airline industry.   Recreational activities (RV, Boating, Flying, etc) will take a nose dive.  Car sales, especially trucks and SUV's will decline.

  Food and basic necessities are only going to get more expensive.   People will curtail vacations which in turn will impact the service industry and hospitality.

  Amazon peddling their Chinese made crap will continue to prosper. 


  Follow. The. Money.

I'm already thinking of cancelling my RV trip from Ohio to South Dakota in August if gas doesn't get lower. Between 2 cruises, EAA, and other closer camping trips this year, this trip will probably get cut.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 06, 2022, 07:11:12 AM
Imagine all they'd save on gas if the poor people would just go green and buy an electric car.  The cheapest one is only $30,000.  Surely poor people have that much saved up.

And when the rechargeable battery craps out, as they all do, it’s $20,000 to replace it, in 2021 dollars that is.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 06, 2022, 07:20:33 AM
And when the rechargeable battery craps out, as they all do, it’s $20,000 to replace it, in 2021 dollars that is.

  The lunatic leftist have no idea on the unicorn farts technology.

  All of these batteries that will be clean energy are far, far from it.  How do they think the minerals for the batteries are mined?  How much destructive mining do they think happens to produce a battery?   What countries control those minerals, and what is their record on the environment?

  Elections have consequences.  A big thanks to all those idiots that were so offended by tweets that they supported placing these fools in charge.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 06, 2022, 08:10:12 AM
Husband just got back from filling our “new” 1980 Corvette with premium.  $4.50 a gallon. Total $80. We won’t be driving that thing much, gets terrible mileage.  Yesterday he filled our ‘91 BMW M5 and it was $4.30.  Up $.20 in one day.  I think regular is $3.50 here now.   Well, as of 8:00 am anyway.  Edit:  Nope.... $3.90 now.  As of 11:40.

The Corvette is his retirement project.  Two weeks to go.  And they have yet to hire his replacement.  Don’t even have any candidates.  We have a real crisis happening in technical fields right now.  Too many gender studies grads and no useful people.  His boss is asking if he’ll stay on and he’s saying “Nope. Too bad so sad. I gave you guys eight months notice.”
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 06, 2022, 10:54:11 AM
Filled up on the way home from church. Scored at $3.699 per gallon, $47.75  Let's Go Brandon!!!
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Old Crow on March 06, 2022, 11:04:45 AM
Yesterday driving back home saw a tanker truck heading for a gas station.  Wonder how high the price will go when he unloads.  I'll check later.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Anthony on March 06, 2022, 11:40:06 AM
I'm already thinking of cancelling my RV trip from Ohio to South Dakota in August if gas doesn't get lower. Between 2 cruises, EAA, and other closer camping trips this year, this trip will probably get cut.

RVs aren't CAMPING.   ;D
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 06, 2022, 11:48:04 AM
How long would it take a thread like this to get locked on PoA?
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Number7 on March 06, 2022, 12:03:11 PM
How long would it take a thread like this to get locked on PoA?

Exactly one post that mentioned the senile imposter or triggered mommy's sweet little snowflakes.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 06, 2022, 12:14:57 PM
RVs aren't CAMPING.   ;D

My back won't allow me to sleep on the ground anymore.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: nddons on March 06, 2022, 12:18:16 PM
It had an immediate impact on the 10,000 people that lost their jobs.
And if Obama and again Biden didn’t cancel it, it would probably be operational by now.

So for now, that oil gets shipped by rail. Hmmm, doesn’t Warren Buffett own Union Pacific and Burlington Northern?  Damn, we have our own home grown oligarchs. 
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 06, 2022, 01:25:13 PM
And if Obama and again Biden didn’t cancel it, it would probably be operational by now.

So for now, that oil gets shipped by rail. Hmmm, doesn’t Warren Buffett own Union Pacific and Burlington Northern?  Damn, we have our own home grown oligarchs. 

I audit those carriers, you should see what’s happening to fuel surcharges.  Paying for oil to haul oil.  And corn, wheat, soybeans, rice, fertilizer, animal feed, all the stuff that goes into the food you buy on the grocery shelves.

I guess we’re going to haul all that stuff around with electric trains when the Dems manage to ban all fossil fuels for good.  Big solar panels on top of the rail cars.  Maybe windmills sticking up out the top.  All you have to do is go faster to make the blades spin faster and make more electricity, right?
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 06, 2022, 04:01:27 PM
I audit those carriers, you should see what’s happening to fuel surcharges.  Paying for oil to haul oil.  And corn, wheat, soybeans, rice, fertilizer, animal feed, all the stuff that goes into the food you buy on the grocery shelves.

I guess we’re going to haul all that stuff around with electric trains when the Dems manage to ban all fossil fuels for good.  Big solar panels on top of the rail cars.  Maybe windmills sticking up out the top.  All you have to do is go faster to make the blades spin faster and make more electricity, right?
Well, trains are electric......they just need the diesel engine to generate the electricity.   8)
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Anthony on March 07, 2022, 04:04:02 AM
My back won't allow me to sleep on the ground anymore.

Just kidding you, hence the smiley. That's too bad, but at least you're out there in the world.

Again, the Democrat/Leftist MEDIA has convinced the Useful Idiots that pipelines are dangerous.   They almost stopped one here that ran right next to a 100 year old one. Rarely do these have problems and if they do they're fixed and the remediation done quickly and completely.  This transports natural gas from the fracking up north and west in PA.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 07, 2022, 05:38:04 AM
Years ago I was at a Wings program presentation.  The speaker was from the NTSB.  He mentioned that pipeline is the safest form of transportation. 
(Reminder, NTSB investigates pipeline accidents.)
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 07, 2022, 06:05:45 AM
Years ago I was at a Wings program presentation.  The speaker was from the NTSB.  He mentioned that pipeline is the safest form of transportation. 
(Reminder, NTSB investigates pipeline accidents.)

That’s misinformation (a.k.a. the truth) because it doesn’t fit the progressive agenda.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 07, 2022, 06:12:34 AM
Just kidding you, hence the smiley. That's too bad, but at least you're out there in the world.

Again, the Democrat/Leftist MEDIA has convinced the Useful Idiots that pipelines are dangerous.   They almost stopped one here that ran right next to a 100 year old one. Rarely do these have problems and if they do they're fixed and the remediation done quickly and completely.  This transports natural gas from the fracking up north and west in PA.

No, I got it. I have some friends in western PA with some pumps on their land. I'll have to ask them how recent events are affecting the leases they have.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 07, 2022, 07:39:38 AM
I was just talking to another friend down in Texas. He works in the oil industry. He's onsite at a oil refinery today. The facility, half owned by Russia. Not something that is making the news, and why Biden has no balls to cut off the flow of Russian oil.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 07, 2022, 07:45:26 AM
I was just talking to another friend down in Texas. He works in the oil industry. He's onsite at a oil refinery today. The facility, half owned by Russia. Not something that is making the news, and why Biden has no balls to cut off the flow of Russian oil.

  Biden is compromised. His family has multitudes of dirty under the table dealings with Russia as well as the Ukraine.   

  Keep in mind when the leftist are accusing others of wrong doing it's because that's what they are really doing.   Leftist love projection.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Anthony on March 07, 2022, 07:45:49 AM
I was just talking to another friend down in Texas. He works in the oil industry. He's onsite at a oil refinery today. The facility, half owned by Russia. Not something that is making the news, and why Biden has no balls to cut off the flow of Russian oil.

To be fair we'd NEED to replace the Russian oil with something else, and the Democrats won't do it domestically so that means the Middle East, Mexico, Canada, Venezuela, etc.  I think the Saudi's have refused to pump more as that would lower their price, so we are pretty muck stuck.  Putin know this as does the Biden Admin.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Anthony on March 07, 2022, 07:46:40 AM
  Biden is compromised. His family has multitudes of dirty under the table dealings with Russia as well as the Ukraine.   

  Keep in mind when the leftist are accusing others of wrong doing it's because that's what they are really doing.   Leftist love projection.


^^^^^^This!
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 07, 2022, 08:35:34 AM
I was just talking to another friend down in Texas. He works in the oil industry. He's onsite at a oil refinery today. The facility, half owned by Russia. Not something that is making the news, and why Biden has no balls to cut off the flow of Russian oil.

The largest refinery in the U.S. is near me, owned by the Saudis.  We are insane to have allowed enemies control of our oil.  No, I don’t consider the Saudis friends.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 07, 2022, 08:40:57 AM
The largest refinery in the U.S. is near me, owned by the Saudis.  We are insane to have allowed enemies control of our oil.  No, I don’t consider the Saudis friends.

I don't consider a large part of the citizens of our own country friends. "Against all enemies, foreign and domestic."
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 07, 2022, 09:08:50 AM
Democrats are saving working class folks from having to spend so much money going out to eat.   ::)
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 07, 2022, 09:17:22 AM
Democrats are saving working class folks from having to spend so much money going out to eat.   ::)

They aren't going to be able to afford food at the discount grocery stores if the left doesn't stop pandering to wokeness and start working towards fixing our country.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 07, 2022, 09:30:06 AM
I don't consider a large part of the citizens of our own country friends. "Against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

The REAL domestic enemies of the actual Constitution are taking a preemptive strike by naming the friends of the Constitution (along with parents at school board meetings) “domestic terrorists”. 
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 07, 2022, 09:55:06 AM
The REAL domestic enemies of the actual Constitution are taking a preemptive strike by naming the friends of the Constitution (along with parents at school board meetings) “domestic terrorists”.

Are we the new "basket of deplorables"? Might need to get a new sticker for the truck.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 07, 2022, 10:07:47 AM
Are we the new "basket of deplorables"? Might need to get a new sticker for the truck.

Yep.  You are deplorable and a domestic terrorist if you:

Take an interest what your children are being taught

Gave a GoFundMe donation to the Canadian truckers

Got two jabs but don’t want a booster

Support voter ID

Are pro immigration but anti illegal immigration

Don’t keep your mask all the way up over your nose
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 07, 2022, 10:11:48 AM
Yep.  You are deplorable and a domestic terrorist if you:

Take an interest what your children are being taught

Gave a GoFundMe donation to the Canadian truckers

Got two jabs but don’t want a booster

Support voter ID

Are pro immigration but anti illegal immigration

Don’t keep your mask all the way up over your nose

I thought being a white, male 2A supporter made me a permanent domestic terrorist without all the other things listed.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 07, 2022, 10:30:15 AM
There will be no turn around by the Democrats to boost domestic production, they've boxed themselves in at this point.  Evidence is the attempt to negotiate with Venezuela.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 07, 2022, 10:51:01 AM
There will be no turn around by the Democrats to boost domestic production, they've boxed themselves in at this point.  Evidence is the attempt to negotiate with Venezuela.

So making the elite richer and plebians poorer? Gotta love socialism.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 07, 2022, 12:32:25 PM
I thought being a white, male 2A supporter made me a permanent domestic terrorist without all the other things listed.

It does.  But any one of those things is sufficient to make you a domestic terrorist, a conspiracy theorist, and a white supremacist.  You don’t even have to be white or male.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Anthony on March 07, 2022, 01:36:27 PM
There will be no turn around by the Democrats to boost domestic production, they've boxed themselves in at this point.  Evidence is the attempt to negotiate with Venezuela.

They want gasoline to be unaffordable for the masses.  That way they can push travel limiting EVs and public transportation.  All to curtail YOUR FREEDOM and make you more controllable and dependent.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Mr Pou on March 07, 2022, 02:19:18 PM
They want gasoline to be unaffordable for the masses.  That way they can push travel limiting EVs and public transportation.  All to curtail YOUR FREEDOM and make you more controllable and dependent.

Yes, curtailing travel for the middle and lower classes is part of the "Great Reset"
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 07, 2022, 03:53:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNNbcY5WUAM4zvK.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Username on March 07, 2022, 05:09:04 PM
They want gasoline to be unaffordable for the masses.  That way they can push travel limiting EVs and public transportation.  All to curtail YOUR FREEDOM and make you more controllable and dependent.
And just like that, BootyJugs says public transportation and EVs are the solution to high gas prices.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/07/pete-buttigieg-promotes-electric-cars-public-transportation-as-solution-to-high-gas-prices/
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Number7 on March 07, 2022, 05:39:24 PM
Kamel Ka the knee pad girl told people to just run out and buy an electric car today.
He was standing in front of a Prius when she came up with that bit of rocket science.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 07, 2022, 05:39:59 PM
And just like that, BootyJugs Butt Jizz says public transportation and EVs are the solution to high gas prices.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/07/pete-buttigieg-promotes-electric-cars-public-transportation-as-solution-to-high-gas-prices/

FTFY
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: nddons on March 07, 2022, 07:28:50 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-sells-alaska-back-to-russia-so-we-can-start-drilling-for-oil-there-again?utm_source=mewe&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=mewe
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 07, 2022, 08:12:39 PM
wrt selling Alaska to russia - good thing, do it before they invade and just take it.

Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: nddons on March 07, 2022, 08:14:38 PM
wrt selling Alaska to russia - good thing, do it before they invade and just take it.
Of course Biden will negotiate in Rubles, because what could go wrong? 
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Mr Pou on March 08, 2022, 05:34:47 AM
And just like that, BootyJugs says public transportation and EVs are the solution to high gas prices.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/07/pete-buttigieg-promotes-electric-cars-public-transportation-as-solution-to-high-gas-prices/

Of course, only the upper middle and rich should be allowed personal transport. The plebes get to ride the grey slimy bitch.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 08, 2022, 08:21:52 AM
And get ready to see the prices escalate even more.

Dementia Joe is going to announce a ban on Russian oil.   Of course, he will not let our country produce more, so they will turn to the ME and Venezuela which will in turn raise their prices.

 We are so fucked with these lunatics.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 08, 2022, 10:50:12 AM
So according to my Texas oil field friend, it's all smoke and mirrors. They are ramping up production in Texas. But here's the rub. The oil fields they are drilling, owned by Venezuela and Russia. Already bought and paid for by us, and we will be buying more from them, and importing more from countries that don't like us. While no oil from Russia is going to be imported, we will just be pumping the oil from fields that they own in our country. I'll get more details tonight. 
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 08, 2022, 11:14:11 AM
So according to my Texas oil field friend, it's all smoke and mirrors. They are ramping up production in Texas. But here's the rub. The oil fields they are drilling, owned by Venezuela and Russia. Already bought and paid for by us, and we will be buying more from them, and importing more from countries that don't like us. While no oil from Russia is going to be imported, we will just be pumping the oil from fields that they own in our country. I'll get more details tonight.

Why do I feel like this is a bunch of rich global elites playing a giant chess game where the pieces are young men being sent to die and common people all over the world trying to put food on the table?  It's all fun and games to them.  Even the threat of nuclear exchange; it's just trash talk. They're playing a giant virtual video game that doesn't affect them personally at all.  None of this will hurt Putin's lifestyle, or Biden's or the corporate or celebrity multi-millionaires.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 08, 2022, 11:24:50 AM
Why do I feel like this is a bunch of rich global elites playing a giant chess game where the pieces are young men being sent to die and common people all over the world trying to put food on the table?  It's all fun and games to them.  Even the threat of nuclear exchange; it's just trash talk. They're playing a giant virtual video game that doesn't affect them personally at all.  None of this will hurt Putin's lifestyle, or Biden's or the corporate or celebrity multi-millionaires.

Probably because they've done it before and will keep doing it again.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Mr Pou on March 08, 2022, 11:51:14 AM
Probably because they've done it before and will keep doing it again.

They'll squeeze the economy just to the breaking point, then ease up. Just like the time before that, and the time before that, and the time...
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Anthony on March 08, 2022, 12:20:43 PM
They'll squeeze the economy just to the breaking point, then ease up. Just like the time before that, and the time before that, and the time...

But, before the election.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 08, 2022, 01:27:58 PM
And just like that, BootyJugs says public transportation and EVs are the solution to high gas prices.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/07/pete-buttigieg-promotes-electric-cars-public-transportation-as-solution-to-high-gas-prices/

https://babylonbee.com/news/nation-wishes-we-had-our-own-oil-we-could-dig-up-with-big-machines-and-then-transport-around-with-some-kind-of-pipeline


U.S.—With oil imports from Russia banned and gas prices continuing to rise, many around the nation report really wishing we had our own oil we could dig up with big machines and then transport around with some sort of pipeline.

"If only we had oil, and knew how to get it," said one local mom as she shelled out $300 for gas to take her kids to soccer practice. "Then maybe we wouldn't have to buy it from evil regimes around the world and gas prices would be lower. I know that's ridiculous, but it sure would be nice if that were possible!"

Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg says he commiserates with people who are struggling right now. "I do have a solution though," he said. "If you all just plop down $90K on an electric car and another 3 million on building a windmill in your backyard, you won't have to deal with these gas costs. I am smart!"

The scientific community says they are hard at work on a solution to the oil shortage but haven't found any options so far. "If only there was oil, and some way to get it out of the ground and transport it!" said all the scientists, scratching their heads.

Other scientists say they may have discovered an almost unlimited form of energy that is clean and safe that uses some sort of atomic fuel but that technology may be years away.




Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 08, 2022, 03:35:20 PM
The Bee did an even better one.

https://babylonbee.com/news/pete-buttigieg-says-everyone-worried-about-gas-prices-should-just-get-six-figure-government-job-with-free-car-service-and-unlimited-parental-leave

Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: elwood blues on March 08, 2022, 03:51:53 PM
The Bee did an even better one.


Kamala Harris later clarified Buttigieg's comments, saying: "Gas prices very high. But all the people have low money. That make buy gas hard. So, basically, that's bad."

Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 08, 2022, 04:57:52 PM
I see a lot of people on facebook selling 1 yea old RVs. Not sure if they think there will be a huge market like last year and will make a profit, or they are panicking over gas prices and are trying to get rid of them.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 08, 2022, 05:18:00 PM
Anything recreational that burns fuel is going to loose value. RV’s, boats, airplanes are gonna be money losers. 
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 08, 2022, 05:30:27 PM
Anything recreational that burns fuel is going to loose value. RV’s, boats, airplanes are gonna be money losers.

I made a $5,000 profit on my used RV last year. The new one I bought the beginning of last summer was being sold at the same dealer for $3000 more 2 months later.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: bflynn on March 08, 2022, 05:48:57 PM
I see a lot of people on facebook selling 1 yea old RVs. Not sure if they think there will be a huge market like last year and will make a profit, or they are panicking over gas prices and are trying to get rid of them.

Are they down to selling 1 year old SR-22s yet?
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Number7 on March 08, 2022, 05:52:25 PM

Kamala Harris later clarified Buttigieg's comments, saying: "Gas prices very high. But all the people have low money. That make buy gas hard. So, basically, that's bad."

For that  moron to be any dumber she would have to be dead.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 08, 2022, 06:04:17 PM
I made a $5,000 profit on my used RV last year. The new one I bought the beginning of last summer was being sold at the same dealer for $3000 more 2 months later.

That all is about to end.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: nddons on March 08, 2022, 06:14:16 PM
Are they down to selling 1 year old SR-22s yet?
Sure. On sale!! $999,999 and you can fly it away.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Anthony on March 09, 2022, 12:59:37 AM
That all is about to end.

Yep. Democrats can't allow prosperity for anyone but the elite and connected elite.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Mr Pou on March 09, 2022, 05:49:58 AM
The Bee did an even better one.

https://babylonbee.com/news/pete-buttigieg-says-everyone-worried-about-gas-prices-should-just-get-six-figure-government-job-with-free-car-service-and-unlimited-parental-leave

The Army video is even better than the article!
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 09, 2022, 05:55:55 AM
The Army video is even better than the article!

Haha, I hadn’t even seen that!
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 09, 2022, 09:42:16 AM
Local station is now $4.299 versus $2.109 on 1/18/2021, increase of 103.8%
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on March 09, 2022, 10:19:00 AM
Local station is now $4.299 versus $2.109 on 1/18/2021, increase of 103.8%

But it's good for the Earth.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: nddons on March 09, 2022, 10:48:34 AM
This reminds me of Platoon:  “Take the Pain!”

https://youtu.be/Df9BZMmmB9c
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 09, 2022, 10:56:34 AM
But it's good for the Earth.

Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 09, 2022, 11:02:36 AM
More interesting info from the Texas oil fields. The oil we will be buying from Venezuela and Iran. Not their oil. They buy it from Russia and sell to suckers like us. They keep their own oil for their own purposes. They buy low and sell high. I'm sure they are wiping their tears of laughter with $100 bills right now.

Also, the oil from Russia and the Middle East is very heavy crude, meaning it's more difficult to refine and has more waste produced in the process, more expensive to produce, less environmentally friendly. The crude found in the U.S is a lighter crude. Easier to refine, less waste, less expensive to produce, more friendly to the environment.

Edit...you get more end product from refining lighter crude oil, too.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 09, 2022, 12:19:39 PM
When driving by gas stations, I've noticed seeing guys on ladders updating pump prices pretty much every day.

Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 09, 2022, 03:20:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNb8oQBXsAc9tg2.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 09, 2022, 03:35:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNb8oQBXsAc9tg2.jpg)

Too logical.  Either Biden and the left are evil sadistic psychopathic geniuses that are deliberately systematically destroying the middle class because they enjoy making people suffer, or they are deeply stupid.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on March 09, 2022, 04:30:21 PM
Just paid 4.999 in Florida for Premium.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Anthony on March 09, 2022, 05:47:08 PM
Too logical.  Either Biden and the left are evil sadistic psychopathic geniuses that are deliberately systematically destroying the middle class because they enjoy making people suffer, or they are deeply stupid.

It's not Biden.  Although if he is still cognizant, he's fine with it. It's who is running the Democrats and they want exactly that. Elite Royalty and serfs. No in between.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Old Crow on March 09, 2022, 06:08:20 PM
$4.49 for 87 and $5.29 for diesel in New Hampshire today.  Most gas stations here change the signs remotely.  One changed as I was driving by.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 10, 2022, 07:04:00 AM
Crude oil prices plunging!  Just kidding, lol!  It’s already heading back up.

https://www.ifcmarkets.com/en/market-data/commodities-prices/oil

Edit: adding snapshot because that link changes.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 10, 2022, 07:26:06 AM
https://twitter.com/KatiePavlich/status/1501699996525207559
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 10, 2022, 07:39:45 AM
The only that rose faster than today's gas prices was Biden's vote total in the middle of the night on election day.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 10, 2022, 07:49:58 AM
The only that rose faster than today's gas prices was Biden's vote total in the middle of the night on election day.

The number of people connected to the Clinton's who committed "suicide"?
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Number7 on March 10, 2022, 09:17:30 AM
The number of people connected to the Clinton's who committed "suicide"?

and how many liberal twits accepted the Epstein suicide lie.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 11, 2022, 05:43:43 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/YzgDzPz.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 11, 2022, 06:01:29 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/YzgDzPz.jpg)

clearly proof that Trump and Putin were in cahoots!


(green font for the sarcasm-impaired)
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2022, 04:04:39 AM
Oh yeah that’ll help:

https://apple.news/AhyZnHkV_OYyzVrhSFUfUyg

“The Environmental Protection Agency announced Monday stricter restrictions on emissions from trucks and buses.“

“ Seventy-two million people are estimated to live near truck freight routes in America, and they are more likely to be people of color and those with lower incomes. These overburdened communities are directly exposed to pollution that causes respiratory and cardiovascular problems, among other serious and costly health effects," EPA Administrator Michael Regan said in the announcement Monday. "These new standards will drastically cut dangerous pollution by harnessing recent advancements in vehicle technologies from across the trucking industry as it advances toward a zero-emissions transportation future."


I bet those people of color with lower incomes are more concerned about $7 a gallon gas and higher food prices than the theoretical risk of future disease.  Does the EPA or Kamala Harris explain the connection between expensive new trucks and costs being passed on down to consumers?

Here’s an idea:  Stop strangling the economy so low income people can be upwardly mobile.  Low income itself is the biggest cause of bad health in disadvantaged groups for many reasons way beyond smoggy air.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: jb1842 on March 12, 2022, 04:52:28 AM
Oh yeah that’ll help:

https://apple.news/AhyZnHkV_OYyzVrhSFUfUyg

“The Environmental Protection Agency announced Monday stricter restrictions on emissions from trucks and buses.“

“ Seventy-two million people are estimated to live near truck freight routes in America, and they are more likely to be people of color and those with lower incomes. These overburdened communities are directly exposed to pollution that causes respiratory and cardiovascular problems, among other serious and costly health effects," EPA Administrator Michael Regan said in the announcement Monday. "These new standards will drastically cut dangerous pollution by harnessing recent advancements in vehicle technologies from across the trucking industry as it advances toward a zero-emissions transportation future."


I bet those people of color with lower incomes are more concerned about $7 a gallon gas and higher food prices than the theoretical risk of future disease.  Does the EPA or Kamala Harris explain the connection between expensive new trucks and costs being passed on down to consumers?

Here’s an idea:  Stop strangling the economy so low income people can be upwardly mobile.  Low income itself is the biggest cause of bad health in disadvantaged groups for many reasons way beyond smoggy air.

Another solution looking for a problem. I wonder how small our tax burden would be if Dems would stop playing this game.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2022, 05:39:34 AM
Another solution looking for a problem. I wonder how small our tax burden would be if Dems would stop playing this game.

The EPA needs to be reduced by 90% or eliminated altogether.  There should never be regulations like this forced on the people with no say in it.  The whole concept of regulatory agencies is flawed:  The alphabet agencies are arguably the biggest waste of taxpayer dollars and biggest source of damaging economic policy in the country.  Look at the destruction the CDC alone did the past two years. 
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Anthony on March 12, 2022, 05:54:20 AM
The EPA needs to be reduced by 90% or eliminated altogether.  There should never be regulations like this forced on the people with no say in it.  The whole concept of regulatory agencies is flawed:  The alphabet agencies are arguably the biggest waste of taxpayer dollars and biggest source of damaging economic policy in the country.  Look at the destruction the CDC alone did the past two years.

Agree.  Plus EVERY State has their own EPA type agency which also enforces both Fed and State environmental regulations.  They're often Nazis also. So why do we need to fund both?
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 12, 2022, 06:08:50 AM
So why do we need to fund both?

it's for the children.

Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 12, 2022, 06:40:56 AM
Agree.  Plus EVERY State has their own EPA type agency which also enforces both Fed and State environmental regulations.  They're often Nazis also. So why do we need to fund both?

  Short answer, we don't.   This should be a state problem and controlled at the state level, if the state sees it necessary.

  FedGov is way too large and intrusive.  Many of the agencies have been weaponized against the citizens.  Too many mid level and SES level government employees making policies and regulations that are damaging but they go unchecked and aren't held accountable.

 Our previous President implemented a rule for every new regulation introduced two had to be removed first.  He also was working to reduce the size of the federal bureaucracy.   Now we have the lunatic leftist behind Biden that are increasing regulations and increasing the size of government, as well as making it more intrusive.

 I'm old enough to remember the liberals saying republicans were the party of big government, the republicans were war mongers and how the republicans wanted higher taxes.   My my how times have changed.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2022, 06:54:35 AM
  Short answer, we don't.   This should be a state problem and controlled at the state level, if the state sees it necessary.

  FedGov is way too large and intrusive.  Many of the agencies have been weaponized against the citizens.  Too many mid level and SES level government employees making policies and regulations that are damaging but they go unchecked and aren't held accountable.

 Our previous President implemented a rule for every new regulation introduced two had to be removed first.  He also was working to reduce the size of the federal bureaucracy.   Now we have the lunatic leftist behind Biden that are increasing regulations and increasing the size of government, as well as making it more intrusive.

 I'm old enough to remember the liberals saying republicans were the party of big government, the republicans were war mongers and how the republicans wanted higher taxes.   My my how times have changed.


Trump cutting regulations was one of the best things about him and largely fueled our economic boom, and the Biden administration doing the reverse on top of an already damaged economy due to covid lockdowns is absolutely destroying us, will likely lead to another Great Depression.  That is, unless he gets us blown to oblivion by Russian nukes first.

“Liberals” have become the Nazis they rage about.  Identical to Putin calling the Ukrainians Nazis when it’s Putin himself channeling Hitler’s ghost.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 12, 2022, 07:03:37 AM

Trump cutting regulations was one of the best things about him and largely fueled our economic boom, and the Biden administration doing the reverse on top of an already damaged economy due to covid lockdowns is absolutely destroying us, will likely lead to another Great Depression.  That is, unless he gets us blown to oblivion by Russian nukes first.

“Liberals” have become the Nazis they rage about.  Identical to Putin calling the Ukrainians Nazis when it’s Putin himself channeling Hitler’s ghost.

  The takeover of the democrat party is complete as the lunatic leftist are firmly in control.  They've ripped the mask off.   They want a CCP style totalitarian government, and are willing to send millions to their deaths to achieve their end.

  Problem is our conservatives still haven't figured out how to counter act them, and frankly are spineless weaklings.   The UniParty in DC is raping and looting the treasury while destroying our currency.

  And we still have people who are more interested in sports and celebrity worship who have never seen a ballot.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 12, 2022, 07:05:07 AM
BTW, the leftist want ballot drop boxes.

So let's start setting them up at every gas station and grocery store checkout area. and start voting for the midterms now.   ;)
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 12, 2022, 07:11:38 AM
Looking for the Democrats to drop a gas stimulus bill sometime soon.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 12, 2022, 07:16:11 AM
Looking for the Democrats to drop a gas stimulus bill sometime soon.

  Yep, throw some crumbs out there to quiet the peasants.   And of course, put it in a 2,000+ page bill chocked full of goodies to benefit the UniParty.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2022, 07:32:34 AM
BTW, the leftist want ballot drop boxes.

So let's start setting them up at every gas station and grocery store checkout area. and start voting for the midterms now.   ;)

Speaking of elections, Putin was supposed to step down in 2024, as he would have completed his second consecutive term, and in 2018 he announced that he would step down.  But now he says he will run again in 2024, just like Biden (who he “admires”, LOL).  How’s that?  Because a change in the constitution in 2020 eliminated the two term limit.  The amendment was proposed by Putin himself and voting on the constitutional amendment was conducted in person and online. Because covid. Online. Yeah. Like that had a chance of not being rigged.

So Putin is A. A liar, and B. A dictator.  He used covid to consolidate power exactly like the Democrats in the U.S. did, by using covid to not require in person voting. The Democrat administration and Putin are like twin faces of evil. They’re going to end up facing off in WWW3 and get the rest of us killed.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 12, 2022, 07:39:13 AM
Speaking of elections, Putin was supposed to step down in 2024, as he would have completed his second consecutive term, and in 2018 he announced that he would step down.  But now he says he will run again in 2024, just like Biden (who he “admires”, LOL).  How’s that?  Because a change in the constitution in 2020 eliminated the two term limit.  The amendment was proposed by Putin himself and voting on the constitutional amendment was conducted in person and online. Because covid. Online. Yeah. Like that had a chance of not being rigged.

So Putin is A. A liar, and B. A dictator.  He used covid to consolidate power exactly like the Democrats in the U.S. did, by using covid to not require in person voting. The Democrat administration and Putin are like twin faces of evil. They’re going to end up facing off in WWW3 and get the rest of us killed.

  Keep in mind this is spinning out of control not just because of the leftist, but more importantly the ones we elected to represent us  and supposedly be the check and balance of government have also abandoned us to join in with the UniParty and reap the rewards.

  Voter apathy has done it's damage. 
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2022, 08:45:13 AM
  Keep in mind this is spinning out of control not just because of the leftist, but more importantly the ones we elected to represent us  and supposedly be the check and balance of government have also abandoned us to join in with the UniParty and reap the rewards.

  Voter apathy has done it's damage.

That’s the silver lining of war.  Wakes us the hell up.  We are as we are because the Greatest Generation secured freedom in the west then sired a bunch of baby boomers that prospered so well we got spoiled. Gen X and Millennials even worse. Korea, Vietnam and the Mideast don’t count because they never threatened our homeland 9/11 notwithstanding.  Complacency, the deadly enemy of pilots, infected voters.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: bflynn on March 12, 2022, 11:37:20 AM
If we need to depend on Millennials, we are screwed
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 12, 2022, 12:14:24 PM
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1502715391931518978?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1502715391931518978%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fi-guarantee-we-are-going-to-end-fossil-fuels%2F
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Bamaflyer on March 12, 2022, 05:15:40 PM
Another solution looking for a problem. I wonder how small our tax burden would be if Dems would stop playing this game.

Tax burden? It certainly won’t decrease! Obviously they spend even more than taxpayers give the government.
Title: Re: Gas prices
Post by: Lucifer on March 15, 2022, 06:22:26 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/7HyU8Wo.jpg)