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Title: Georgia 6th District
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 18, 2017, 09:21:56 AM
Special election today in the 6th District here in Georgia.  The Democrats and Hollywood have poured over $8M into this election to back their guy Jon Ossoff.  There are some 25 Republican candidates in the race, splintering the Republican vote.  Ossoff holds a lead in the polls due to the splintering on the right.  Ossoff has to get 50% +1 to win outright though, if he doesn't there will be a runoff against the top Republican.  Ossoff can't even vote today since he doesn't live in the District he's running for.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: bflynn on April 18, 2017, 10:49:40 AM
He doesn't live there, but he can run to be representative?  Isn't that a little messed up?  Dems have pushed hard to try to win this seat, they've brought a lot of money and a lot of prestige into the district to try to influence the vote.  Seems really sleezy, how is California and New York influence here fundamentally different than Russian influence was in the general election?

Democrats are claiming he will take about 52% of the vote.  I've never seen polling like that, the RCP average is 42.8%.  What I've heard, the likely outcome is that he will get less than 50% and there will be a run off in June between him and the top Republican. 
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Little Joe on April 18, 2017, 11:09:28 AM
He doesn't live there, but he can run to be representative?  Isn't that a little messed up?  Dems have pushed hard to try to win this seat, they've brought a lot of money and a lot of prestige into the district to try to influence the vote.  Seems really sleezy, how is California and New York influence here fundamentally different than Russian influence was in the general election?

Democrats are claiming he will take about 52% of the vote.  I've never seen polling like that, the RCP average is 42.8%.  What I've heard, the likely outcome is that he will get less than 50% and there will be a run off in June between him and the top Republican.
I think that means he will get around 42.8% of the legitimate votes.  That doesn't count people that vote twice, dead people or illegal aliens that were paid by Soros to vote.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: acrogimp on April 18, 2017, 11:38:19 AM
25 Republicans, man they just cannot get out of their own way and actually focus on winning elections and governing the damn country.

Gonna be a while before I consider rejoining 'the grand old party', prevent defense playing morons.

'Gimp
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Anthony on April 18, 2017, 11:45:23 AM
Gonna be a while before I consider rejoining 'the grand old party', prevent defense playing morons.

That's probably the most accurate description of the GOP I've heard, and we all know what happens when they go into a "prevent".  See Atlanta, and the last Super Bowl.  The Establishment Republicans would rather lose power altogether, than get on board with any meaningful change at the trough it seems.  It took me a while, but I came to realize that Democrat, and Establishment Republican are two sides OF THE SAME COIN!

Pigs get fat, Hogs get slaughtered.  The R's are going to get slaughtered.   
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Gary on April 18, 2017, 12:54:00 PM
It took me a while, but I came to realize that Democrat, and Establishment Republican are two sides OF THE SAME COIN!

Pigs get fat, Hogs get slaughtered.  The R's are going to get slaughtered.

Whoo-Hooo...  Progress!!  (Not so sure the R's will get slaughtered)
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: nddons on April 18, 2017, 01:34:09 PM
25 Republicans, man they just cannot get out of their own way and actually focus on winning elections and governing the damn country.

Gonna be a while before I consider rejoining 'the grand old party', prevent defense playing morons.

'Gimp
The GOP excels as a minority party, but they suck big time as the majority party.

When good conservatives were running against entrenched, establishment, career GOP politicians (Mississippi, for example), the GOP establishment pulled out all the stops to crush area Party candidates in favor of establishment Blue Bloods.

Now in THIS case, they can't control the  number of candidates running for a stinking House seat?  Fucking morons.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 18, 2017, 02:15:15 PM
He doesn't live there, but he can run to be representative?  Isn't that a little messed up?  Dems have pushed hard to try to win this seat, they've brought a lot of money and a lot of prestige into the district to try to influence the vote.  Seems really sleezy, how is California and New York influence here fundamentally different than Russian influence was in the general election?

Democrats are claiming he will take about 52% of the vote.  I've never seen polling like that, the RCP average is 42.8%.  What I've heard, the likely outcome is that he will get less than 50% and there will be a run off in June between him and the top Republican.


Under the Constitution he only need live in the State.  Here we have a millennial that wants to full time politician.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Number7 on April 18, 2017, 04:47:12 PM
Right on cue....

Voting Machines Stolen in key district...

Never underestimate the fraud that progressives are willing to commit.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/voting-machines-were-reported-stolen-a-day-before-special-election/

For those progressives who need video because reading is hard...

Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 18, 2017, 07:46:03 PM
54% reporting Ossoff sits at 50%.  He started the night at 60%.  Republican precincts starting to report in.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: bflynn on April 18, 2017, 09:27:18 PM
54% reporting Ossoff sits at 50%.  He started the night at 60%.  Republican precincts starting to report in.

Down to 48% and because the remaining districts are mostly Republican, the news is reporting it will go to a runoff. Quite a distance from the 52-53% that I hear Democrats predicting. 
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Lucifer on April 19, 2017, 04:02:47 AM
Down to 48% and because the remaining districts are mostly Republican, the news is reporting it will go to a runoff. Quite a distance from the 52-53% that I hear Democrats predicting.

Damn Russians!   
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 19, 2017, 04:19:06 AM
He spent $6M of the $8.3M already. We'll see if Hollywood has the desire to pour more money into this race now. Karen Handel has run for just about everything she can here in the state.  She has a past, so we'll see ads about how she screwed up this or that.  We'll see what kind of crap they can pull up on Mr. Millennial.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Lucifer on April 19, 2017, 04:22:02 AM
He spent $6M of the $8.3M already. We'll see if Hollywood has the desire to pour more money into this race now. Karen Handel has run for just about everything she can here in the state.  She has a past, so we'll see ads about how she screwed up this or that.  We'll see what kind of crap they can pull up on Mr. Millennial.

It's Russian interference I tell you!   Has to be the Russians!   

We need a special prosecutor to get to the bottom of this!
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Number7 on April 19, 2017, 06:03:54 AM
For those who care, there were 7 democrats and 11 republicans on the ballot...
I guess the imbecile hollyweird left got left at the altar... again after spending nearly $9 million to hate republicans.... again.

How many times do you progs need to get kicked in the Dick before you stop,pretending you're so special???
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Anthony on April 19, 2017, 06:32:31 AM
Whoo-Hooo...  Progress!!  (Not so sure the R's will get slaughtered)

Ha, yeah.  I am getting jaded in my old age.  If the Establishment Republicans don't dump "business as usual" in the bigger picture, they will get slaughtered eventually.  I did not mean for this specific election, as I don't know enough about Georgia politics to speculate on that.  I do know that the MSM was really pulling out all the stops for the "D", in an attempt to create a public perception that folks were dissatisfied with Trump, having "buyer's remorse", and now voting "D" in protest. 
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on April 19, 2017, 07:53:58 AM
(https://cmgajcpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/ossoff-a1.jpg?w=492&h=328)

(http://c0.nrostatic.com/sites/default/files/uploaded/obama-pajama-boy-white-house-r.jpg)
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: bflynn on April 19, 2017, 09:32:50 AM
The runoff will be one D and one R.  Odds are strong that the R will win in that district.  Especially of they live there.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Little Joe on April 19, 2017, 09:46:54 AM
I know times are changing, but the D doesn't live in the district, because he lives with his girlfriend of 12 years.

Why doesn't he get married?  I don't trust a politician that will screw someone without marrying them.  I have already had enough of that.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: nudnik on April 19, 2017, 10:59:09 AM
I don't trust a politician that will screw someone without marrying them.

You can't expect Trump to marry 326 million people.

Well, minus 1.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Number7 on April 19, 2017, 12:42:21 PM
You can't expect Trump to marry 326 million people.

Well, minus 1.

More horseshit from he queen.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Lucifer on April 19, 2017, 12:45:24 PM
You can't expect Trump to marry 326 million people.

Well, minus 1.

BHO rammed it up everyone's ass. 
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: nudnik on April 19, 2017, 01:00:48 PM
BHO rammed it up everyone's ass.

Ok, go ahead, tell me how you are personally worse off on January 2017 as compared to January 2009.

Are you earning less money? Are you paying a higher % of your salary in federal taxes? What exactly did he do to you?
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: LevelWing on April 19, 2017, 01:48:38 PM
A lot of money was spent on this democratic candidate and he didn't win. Now that it's heading to a run off, we'll see how committed the Democrats are to winning this seat for the next 18-ish months. They'll have to spend that same amount all over again in the mid-terms and if the Obamacare repeal and tax reform both happen, they'll have a hard time keeping that seat. As it stands, there are several Democratic senate seats that are already looking like Republicans have a shot at winning. Of course a lot can change between now and then, as always.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Anthony on April 19, 2017, 01:49:42 PM
Ok, go ahead, tell me how you are personally worse off on January 2017 as compared to January 2009.

Are you earning less money? Are you paying a higher % of your salary in federal taxes? What exactly did he do to you?

Personally, I am paying MUCH higher health insurance costs, and much higher out of pocket healthcare costs.  This affects my net disposable income for other essentials.  In addition, the Obama Admin helped create an anti-business, anti-energy, higher regulatory, higher tax environment that has also helped reduce my net disposable income. 
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: LevelWing on April 19, 2017, 01:51:45 PM
Ok, go ahead, tell me how you are personally worse off on January 2017 as compared to January 2009.

Are you earning less money? Are you paying a higher % of your salary in federal taxes? What exactly did he do to you?
What about the states that saw skyrocketing premiums, like Arizona (116%)? Some people are earning less money and some people would rather pay the "tax" for not having healthcare than have to spend the ridiculous amount it takes to get basic, terrible coverage.

Quote from: nudnik
You can't expect Trump to marry 326 million people.

Well, minus 1.
This statement seems to imply that Trump has done something to you or others. What was it?
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Little Joe on April 19, 2017, 02:27:23 PM
This statement seems to imply that Trump has done something to you or others. What was it?
He hurt their feelings.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: nudnik on April 19, 2017, 02:56:58 PM
Personally, I am paying MUCH higher health insurance costs, and much higher out of pocket healthcare costs.  This affects my net disposable income for other essentials.
I should have excluded the ACA - I don't agree with the ACA either, apart from it being "something". I don't know of a single democrat that when you asked them before Obama was elected what they wanted in Healthcare, had an answer even remotely resembling the ACA. Damn Joe Lieberman.

But I'm looking forward to see what Republicans can come up with, if they ever manage to agree on it.

In addition, the Obama Admin helped create an anti-business, anti-energy, higher regulatory, higher tax environment that has also helped reduce my net disposable income.

Really, your 1040 for 2016 was lower than your 1040 for 2009? If so, I would love if you can name specific examples of how or why.

(I've not being sarcastic - I have just not met a single person for which this was the case, where it can be at all contributed to changed policies and not something like retirement.)
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Little Joe on April 19, 2017, 03:52:41 PM
Ok, go ahead, tell me how you are personally worse off on January 2017 as compared to January 2009.

Are you earning less money? Are you paying a higher % of your salary in federal taxes? What exactly did he do to you?
I know a lot of people that are making much less than they were.  A lot of people that lost their jobs during the recession, especially some older workers, never got back to where they were.  My brother is one.  The recovery under Obama was often referred to, even by the liberal media, as the "jobless recovery".  That meant those with money were doing well because of Quantitative Easing and zero interest policies.  But the workers suffered.  And the Trade deficit soared.  Can you even imagine how much $20T is?  And it wasn't all GWB's fault.

I suspect most of the people on this board are doing well, but it is the common, working man and woman that is suffering because of Obama's policies.,
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: nudnik on April 19, 2017, 04:21:10 PM
I know a lot of people that are making much less than they were.  A lot of people that lost their jobs during the recession, especially some older workers, never got back to where they were.  My brother is one.  The recovery under Obama was often referred to, even by the liberal media, as the "jobless recovery".  That meant those with money were doing well because of Quantitative Easing and zero interest policies.  But the workers suffered.  And the Trade deficit soared.  Can you even imagine how much $20T is?  And it wasn't all GWB's fault.

I suspect most of the people on this board are doing well, but it is the common, working man and woman that is suffering because of Obama's policies.,

We've all heard, anecdotally, about that happening. 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand. The coal miner in West Virginia etc. I just never met someone like that, and looks like I still haven't?

It would just be good to talk to someone for once that was actually personally affected and can justify it.

There's very little in government that actually affects me, apart from the check I write every year. But that hasn't changed under Bush, it hasn't changed under Obama, and from the looks of things so far, it's not going to change under Trump.

Sure I pay like a $1000 more in healthcare costs a year, but I earn many times more that since 2009.

I admit - my life hasn't changed one iota under trump, and I doubt it will, unless he goes and drops a nuke on someone.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 19, 2017, 07:27:40 PM
So Ossoff raised $8.3M while Handel raised $463K and he couldn't buy this election.  The Democrats got 93,000 votes to the Republicans 97,000 votes. 


I need some help.  Here are links to the FEC pages for Ossoff and Handel.  I fond all kinds of info about donations made to Handel and very little info on donations made to Ossoff.  What am I missing?


http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=C00633362&tabIndex=3


http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=H8GA06195&tabIndex=1
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Lucifer on April 19, 2017, 07:34:23 PM
So Ossoff raised $8.3M while Handel raised $463K and he couldn't buy this election.  The Democrats got 93,000 votes to the Republicans 97,000 votes. 


I need some help.  Here are links to the FEC pages for Ossoff and Handel.  I fond all kinds of info about donations made to Handel and very little info on donations made to Ossoff.  What am I missing?


http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=C00633362&tabIndex=3


http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=H8GA06195&tabIndex=1

 Ossoff was complaining about the republicans bringing in "outside money" and trying to "steal the election".   He conveniently didn't mention his $8 million from the Hollywood types.

 He also claimed this was a "victory for the ages" for himself.   He couldn't get over 50% (even though the media kept telling everyone he would) and in raw vote total, the democrats lost. 

 The dems still can't figure out why they are losing.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: nudnik on April 19, 2017, 07:37:37 PM
So Ossoff raised $8.3M while Handel raised $463K and he couldn't buy this election.  The Democrats got 93,000 votes to the Republicans 97,000 votes. 


I need some help.  Here are links to the FEC pages for Ossoff and Handel.  I fond all kinds of info about donations made to Handel and very little info on donations made to Ossoff.  What am I missing?


http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=C00633362&tabIndex=3

http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=H8GA06195&tabIndex=1

The site is broken.

Go to the beta site - here are the Ossoff contributions:
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/327/201704069052026327/201704069052026327.pdf

Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 20, 2017, 06:25:44 AM
Thanks.


This is eye opening......


https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?cycle=ALL
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Number7 on April 20, 2017, 06:40:48 AM
Thanks.


This is eye opening......


https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?cycle=ALL

I see a pattern of groups that operate off of other people's money - mostly tax and dues money - using it to buy liberal politicians.
And i see companies that have to earn money tend not to give it all away to shit-for-brains liberal politicians.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Anthony on April 20, 2017, 06:49:04 AM
Ossoff was complaining about the republicans bringing in "outside money" and trying to "steal the election".   He conveniently didn't mention his $8 million from the Hollywood types.

 He also claimed this was a "victory for the ages" for himself.   He couldn't get over 50% (even though the media kept telling everyone he would) and in raw vote total, the democrats lost. 

 The dems still can't figure out why they are losing.

The Dems keep throwing out false claims, lies, and disinformation because they know the media will pick up, and run with it as "news".  Yes fake news, but it still gets traction with a lot of people.  The media repeats it, then the kids hear it in school, and at universities, and then people see/hear it on their favorite TV shows and movies.  It is certainly an uphill battle.   
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 20, 2017, 06:42:40 PM
Ossoff TV commercials are flowing like water here.  They're working on painting Handel as a big spender Conservative, taking care of herself and no one else.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Lucifer on April 20, 2017, 07:46:50 PM
Ossoff TV commercials are flowing like water here.  They're working on painting Handel as a big spender Conservative, taking care of herself and no one else.

 It's the democrat strategy, pour mega $$$ in the election and hope you can buy your way in.

 Hillary outspent Trump 3 to 1.
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Little Joe on April 21, 2017, 02:34:23 PM
What I don't understand is:
WHY THE FUCK did the 6th district GOP allow all those damn people to run KNOWING it would make it impossible for any of them to win, and would have likely handed the election to the Democrats?
Title: Re: Georgia 6th District
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 22, 2017, 12:27:03 AM
What I don't understand is:
WHY THE FUCK did the 6th district GOP allow all those damn people to run KNOWING it would make it impossible for any of them to win, and would have likely handed the election to the Democrats?

Something about democracy allowing anyone to run for office, I guess. Just think of the primary as being like PilotZone allowing everyone a soap box. All are pretty sure they know the score and how things should be done.