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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on August 16, 2017, 06:26:35 AM

Title: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2017, 06:26:35 AM
 So after thinking about the alt left progressives and their march to destroy all symbols of the Confederacy and the Civil War, I now agree.

 Let's remove those symbolic items!  They represent hate and a group of people that promoted slavery and suppression of black people.

 Oh, and while we are at it, lets require the Democrat Party be dismantled and labeled as a "hate group".  I mean, after all if we read history it was the Democrat Party that promoted slavery, it was the Democrat Party that was instrumental in getting the civil war started due to their beliefs on slavery.  It was also the democrat party that after the Civil War that fought to prevent the slaves from having rights, that fought against blacks from having the right to vote.  It was the democrat party that promoted Jim Crow laws, that promoted segregation.

 And let's not forget it was the democrat party that was the birthplace of the KKK.  Let's not forget Sen Byrd from WV, a proud KKK member.  Let's not forget Al Gore's father who fought against the civil rights era as well as all of the democrats in congress who fought against the civil rights of blacks and minorities.

 So I propose the DNC be dismantled along with all references to them. Their HQ in Washington needs to be shut down and their signs removed.

 I mean, after all, isn't this what it's all about?
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: nddons on August 16, 2017, 07:05:47 AM
Wherever Martin Luther King marched, violence often followed in his wake. I remember that growing up in Chicago in the 1960s. Obviously all MLK statues should be destroyed, and every MLK school, building or street should be renamed.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 16, 2017, 07:16:41 AM
Huey Newton, Bobby Seale, Medgar Evers, Malcom X(by any means necessary). All gotta come down, be erased from history. Sorry, only it's only 'fair'.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Jaybird180 on August 16, 2017, 10:02:48 AM
Huey Newton, Bobby Seale, Medgar Evers, Malcom X(by any means necessary). All gotta come down, be erased from history. Sorry, only it's only 'fair'.

Chicanerous logic to justify hatred. There is a difference between Fighting for Oppression and Fighting against it. Anyone with 2 neurons knows the difference.

Malcolm X said a lot more than "by any means necessary" and frankly I'm not sure he actually said it, although it's been attributed to him with a depiction of him looking out the window with a firearm.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Little Joe on August 16, 2017, 11:57:56 AM
Chicanerous logic to justify hatred. There is a difference between Fighting for Oppression and Fighting against it. Anyone with 2 neurons knows the difference.

Malcolm X said a lot more than "by any means necessary" and frankly I'm not sure he actually said it, although it's been attributed to him with a depiction of him looking out the window with a firearm.
Welcome back Jaybird.  We were starting to run out of opposition and things were getting boring around here.

As I said in the other thread, the actions of the white supremacist that ran his car into the crowd is indefensible.  But up until that point, they had a right to their demonstration.

All the bad publicity depicting Trump as a KKK lover is just political correctness run amok.  Of course there was bad behavior on both sides.  The counter protesters cannot beheld liable for that action, but there was bad behavior on both sides.  Chastising Trump for pointing that out is the reason we can't have any sort of meaningful dialog on race these days.  We are only allowed to express one side of the issue, ie, the bad behavior of some whites.  No other conversation is allowed.  That is wrong.

Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 16, 2017, 12:14:49 PM
Chicanerous logic to justify hatred. There is a difference between Fighting for Oppression and Fighting against it. Anyone with 2 neurons knows the difference.

Malcolm X said a lot more than "by any means necessary" and frankly I'm not sure he actually said it, although it's been attributed to him with a depiction of him looking out the window with a firearm.

Sorry, I'm short a few neutrons. The 1st amendment absolutely protects hate speech. If it weren't hate speech, it wouldn't need constitutional protection. I mean, no one is outraged by 'save the #2 pencils!'.

As for Malcolm X, here we go again. Revisionist history. 'Maybe he didn't say it'. Maybe the christians didn't burn down the Library of Alexander. I mean, it's only been referenced in dozens of historical texts, with attribution from the scribes of the day, and also supported by internal documents from the very religious leaders who gave the orders. But - no matter, the christians want to deny it, and deny it they will. I'm sure in a few years, the Black Panthers will be considered a social afternoon tea organization of mutual trust, cooperation and support for whites. muuaahahahhahhahaa!!

I love revisionist history. Dems/libs continue to point the fickle finger of racism when THEY originated it, and supported it for > 100 years! It took the development of an entirely new party to kill slavery. But then, in a not-surprising twist, the Dems found new ways, and new methods for denying civil rights. Anyone remember 'separate but equal'? Plessy v Ferguson? Fuller court?

Move forward to 2017, what have we now? Welfare, section 8, AFDC, TAMF, ad-infinitum. All have been around since the loss of actual civil rights denial. All work to suppress and keep the minorities down. Feed em pablum, and keep em dependent. What a plan! And the minorities are lapping it up. Demanding more, livin' off the fat of the land(of course, supported by predominantly taxes).

Own it.
snort
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Jaybird180 on August 16, 2017, 12:25:24 PM
I support the right of the people to peacefully assemble. I support the right of the people to appoint a representative to speak to their unaddressed concerns. I do not support people who uphold centuries old symbols of hate, bigotry and oppression and call it "heritage". It's at that point that you want to bring the past into the present and it becomes intolerable.

Little Joe- are you saying that the White Supremacists were incited?
...and thanks for the notice.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 16, 2017, 12:48:19 PM
Haaahahhahaaa!! Malcolm X was the most racist person on the planet! "the black person is superior to the whites". "The white race is doomed to extinction. If not by themselves, they will be assisted". "The only difference between a liberal white, and a conservative white is the liberal is more deceitful". Well, he got that right anyway. Peaceful assembly. That's rich. If I had to count up all the assaults, fires, bombings, beatings from his nation of islam, I'd be dead before counting even a small part. Convicted small time hood,  Bobby Seale, Newton, and more recent Farrakahn are synonymous with violence, intimidation, racism, hatred, and in all other respects have trashed the tenets of the constitution they so richly don't deserve. It's no wonder a white supremacist organization is on the rise again. It's clear that the die is cast, and the history of racism and intolerance is in play. Own it.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2017, 02:43:31 PM
. I do not support people who uphold centuries old symbols of hate, bigotry and oppression and call it "heritage".

 So then you agree the state of West Virginia needs to take down all statues of Sen Robert Byrd, his pictures on paintings in Washington need to be taken down, all streets named after him need to be renamed and all office buildings named after him need to be renamed.

 You also agree that Hillary Clinton needs to disavow herself when she referred to Sen Byrd as her "mentor".   

 You will also agree the statue at Princeton of Woodrow Wilson needs to be taken down, correct?  Plus any other monuments to his name.

 You will also agree that former President Bill Clinton needs to disavow Senator William J Fullbright as his "mentor" and any statue, monument or office building or street named after the senator needs to be renamed.

 And of course you will expect Al Gore to disavow his father, Sen Al Gore Sr and of course demand that buildings and streets named after him be changed.

 And while we're at it, you condemn BLM (Black Lives Matter) and the Black Panthers?   Right?
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Jaybird180 on August 16, 2017, 02:48:36 PM
Haaahahhahaaa!! Malcolm X was the most racist person on the planet! "the black person is superior to the whites". "The white race is doomed to extinction. If not by themselves, they will be assisted". "The only difference between a liberal white, and a conservative white is the liberal is more deceitful". Well, he got that right anyway. Peaceful assembly. That's rich. If I had to count up all the assaults, fires, bombings, beatings from his nation of islam, I'd be dead before counting even a small part. Convicted small time hood,  Bobby Seale, Newton, and more recent Farrakahn are synonymous with violence, intimidation, racism, hatred, and in all other respects have trashed the tenets of the constitution they so richly don't deserve. It's no wonder a white supremacist organization is on the rise again. It's clear that the die is cast, and the history of racism and intolerance is in play. Own it.
I'll wait on that count.

Nevertheless, you can't say Malcolm X was "the most racist person on the planet" and be truthful about it. Name one White person he harmed. I'll wait on that too.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Jaybird180 on August 16, 2017, 02:54:06 PM
So then you agree the state of West Virginia needs to take down all statues of Sen Robert Byrd, his pictures on paintings in Washington need to be taken down, all streets named after him need to be renamed and all office buildings named after him need to be renamed.

 You also agree that Hillary Clinton needs to disavow herself when she referred to Sen Byrd as her "mentor".   

 You will also agree the statue at Princeton of Woodrow Wilson needs to be taken down, correct?  Plus any other monuments to his name.

 You will also agree that former President Bill Clinton needs to disavow Senator William J Fullbright as his "mentor" and any statue, monument or office building or street named after the senator needs to be renamed.

 And of course you will expect Al Gore to disavow his father, Sen Al Gore Sr and of course demand that buildings and streets named after him be changed.

 And while we're at it, you condemn BLM (Black Lives Matter) and the Black Panthers?   Right?

I don't think that any person is so consistent that there is NOTHING of good that can be celebrated. Certainly men like Byrd, Wilson, etc can be celebrated for things of good they did. I don't know enough about them to say if the good outweigh the bad they did or supported. I know Byrd disavowed his former membership in the KKK, which is laudable.

Why should I invest in condemning BLM or the Black Panthers, though I not an ardent supporter of either but if I had to say- I'd applaud the efforts and work of the Panthers. The fed many poor people, ran soup kitchens and did a lot of charity work. They also showed the hypocrisy of the NRA when they showed up in Sacramento with rifles- it was the first and ONLY time the NRA supported gun control. They sought to protect their community against police violence- one of their main tenets.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2017, 02:55:31 PM
I'll wait on that count.

Nevertheless, you can't say Malcolm X was "the most racist person on the planet" and be truthful about it. Name one White person he harmed. I'll wait on that too.

 So in order to be "racist" a black would have to harm a white person?   Can we use that same "logic" and apply it to a white person needing to harm a black before they could be considered racist?

 
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Jaybird180 on August 16, 2017, 02:58:07 PM
So in order to be "racist" a black would have to harm a white person?   Can we use that same "logic" and apply it to a white person needing to harm a black before they could be considered racist?
You can search my history here as well as POA-SZ and you'll find me consistently saying that I don't care what a person SAYS. It's all about what they DO.  However, if a person invades someone's personal space calling them names, I do consider that an act of aggression and the right of self-defense prevails.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2017, 03:04:33 PM
I don't think that any person is so consistent that there is NOTHING of good that can be celebrated. Certainly men like Byrd, Wilson, etc can be celebrated for things of good they did. I don't know enough about them to say if the good outweigh the bad they did or supported. I know Byrd disavowed his former membership in the KKK, which is laudable.

 So how about the people that these statues represent?  Or the Confederacy?   Are you going to tell us EVERYTHING they did was wrong and horrible?  Are you going to say they did nothing good?   I mean, here you are giving passes to a former KKK member as well as politicians that fought hard to suppress civil rights in this country.

 And you are OK with that?  Your OK with politicians of the democrat party who were acknowledged racist and used their power to suppress civil rights?

Why should I invest in condemning BLM or the Black Panthers, though I not an ardent supporter of either but if I had to say- I'd applaud the efforts and work of the Panthers. The fed many poor people, ran soup kitchens and did a lot of charity work. They also showed the hypocrisy of the NRA when they showed up in Sacramento with rifles- it was the first and ONLY time the NRA supported gun control. They sought to protect their community against police violence- one of their main tenets.

 So you support a group that used violence as a means to advance themselves?  Ever bother to read all of the violence committed by the BP's?

 Or in your book that was "justified"?
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2017, 03:06:28 PM
You can search my history here as well as POA-SZ and you'll find me consistently saying that I don't care what a person SAYS. It's all about what they DO.  However, if a person invades someone's personal space calling them names, I do consider that an act of aggression and the right of self-defense prevails.

 But you are condemning the President for something he didn't say.....or do.

 I'd say you are very selective in how you project your bigotry.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 16, 2017, 04:03:37 PM
I'll wait on that count.

Nevertheless, you can't say Malcolm X was "the most racist person on the planet" and be truthful about it. Name one White person he harmed. I'll wait on that too.

You mean he was wrongly accused of burglary, theft, drug sales, etc?

hmmmmm.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 16, 2017, 04:10:38 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/16/ben-carson-says-his-home-was-vandalized-with-hateful-rhetoric-about-president-trump.html

C'mon libs. Defend it. Wait, I know - it was one a them white supremacists. ah-suuuuuuuuuuuuure
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 16, 2017, 07:50:59 PM
Slavery, as an institution going back beyond recorded history, was ended by the United States of America. By white people.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Number7 on August 17, 2017, 04:36:38 AM
Attacking Donald Trump because he observed the obvious but failed to limit the truth to only those on the side of the alt-left, is so pathetically typical as to be laughable.It's a joke being played on the far left by a media and political class that chooses lies over observable truth for a living.

The hypocrisy evident in these attacks on Trump are so blatantly dishonest that I have to believe those who embrace them are either mentally disturbed, or blinded by hatred so deep that reality has no place in their lives.

I blame both sides, but I do know that the original protest was about destroying historical statues and made into a white nationalist, kkk event by a tiny grouping of brainless imbeciles. Once the thugs were hired to attack and shut down the peaceful protest, and aided by the idiotic mayor and police chief's despicable actions, violence was the only result possible.

It was political malpractice for the city to behave the way they did and any honest person knows that it was done that way intentionally to cause violence.

As for framing the destruction of the statues as some kind of necessary or reasonable action is as delusional as it is dishonest. The hypocrisy of defending Bird and damning everyone else is the sort of hypocritical gymnastics engaged in by idiots.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2017, 05:53:00 AM
Slavery, as an institution going back beyond recorded history, was ended by the United States of America. By white people.

But don't forget, the religion of peace (Islam) to this day still has followers practicing slavery around the world.  Funny how we never hear about that in the MSM.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Anthony on August 17, 2017, 07:03:17 AM
I do not support people who uphold centuries old symbols of hate, bigotry and oppression and call it "heritage". It's at that point that you want to bring the past into the present and it becomes intolerable.

Destroying reminders of our history in the form of symbols, flags, and statues is short sighted, and stupid.  Whether it is good, or bad these reminders should remain so we remember, and do not make the same mistakes of the past. 

Is that so difficult for Leftists/Democrats to understand?  If so why?  If you don't like a statue, DON'T LOOK AT IT, but don't take my rights away by destroying it. 
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Number7 on August 17, 2017, 07:31:11 AM
To have a muslim lecture us about the evils of slavery, injustice and violence is as delusional as it is hypocritical.
Clean the shithole of your religion and the slave holding, religion of rape and torture before you damn anyone else.

But instead Jaybird you will choose to shower us with demented accusations instead of anything approaching honesty. You and Gerhardt seem to be bound together in some alternate reality where your fantasies are supposed to be respected and accepted.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Anthony on August 17, 2017, 07:36:00 AM
To have a muslim lecture us about the evils of slavery, injustice and violence is as delusional as it is hypocritical.
Clean the shithole of your religion and the slave holding, religion of rape and torture before you damn anyone else.

But I thought Islam was the religion of peace?

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You and Gerhardt seem to be bound together in some alternate reality where your fantasies are supposed to be respected and accepted.

That sounds a bit Homo-Erotic.   :)
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Number7 on August 17, 2017, 07:57:51 AM
I can actually understand Jaybird wanting to lash out only at white, non-muslims. To address the sickness that runs throughout Islam would tear down every single one of his carefully erected walls of self-imposed ignorance.

Modern Islam seems to take every sickening thing from its past and embrace it for the present, while projecting their faults, sins and undeniable evil onto everyone else to avoid the stinking cesspool rising around them.

To do so in such a transparently, pathetic way, is curious but could be simply another psychological projection, thinking that the media has so successfully put forth the lies about their religion of rape, that we would feel bound to accept his lies and ignorant ranting as truth.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2017, 08:09:48 AM
To have a muslim lecture us about the evils of slavery, injustice and violence is as delusional as it is hypocritical.
Clean the shithole of your religion and the slave holding, religion of rape and torture before you damn anyone else.

But instead Jaybird you will choose to shower us with demented accusations instead of anything approaching honesty. You and Gerhardt seem to be bound together in some alternate reality where your fantasies are supposed to be respected and accepted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_21st-century_Islamism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Sudan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Mauritania

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_contemporary_Africa

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/slavery.aspx

Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Jaybird180 on August 17, 2017, 08:59:40 AM
So how about the people that these statues represent?  Or the Confederacy?   Are you going to tell us EVERYTHING they did was wrong and horrible?  Are you going to say they did nothing good?   I mean, here you are giving passes to a former KKK member as well as politicians that fought hard to suppress civil rights in this country.

 And you are OK with that?  Your OK with politicians of the democrat party who were acknowledged racist and used their power to suppress civil rights?

 So you support a group that used violence as a means to advance themselves?  Ever bother to read all of the violence committed by the BP's?

 Or in your book that was "justified"?
What are you looking for? I'm not sure what side of the fence your're on, nor am I sure what clarification you're looking for from me. Instead of making inferences from what I say, just accept my statements as is.

But you are condemning the President for something he didn't say.....or do.

 I'd say you are very selective in how you project your bigotry.
DJT is who he is. I believe he is aligned with the KKK agenda, but that's my opinion. He's rocking the boat and it's going to capsize.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2017, 09:11:28 AM
What are you looking for? I'm not sure what side of the fence your're on, nor am I sure what clarification you're looking for from me. Instead of making inferences from what I say, just accept my statements as is.

 Why do I have to take sides on a fence?  Is that how your world works, everyone takes a "side"?   Are you incapable of critical thinking and reasoning?

 I'm trying to figure out where your thinking is coming from.  Obviously you can't stand facts unless they align with you perceived views.



DJT is who he is. I believe he is aligned with the KKK agenda, but that's my opinion. He's rocking the boat and it's going to capsize.

 Please explain to us how you arrive at a conclusion the President is aligned with the KKK agenda?   Please cite facts.

 And please explain to us exactly what the KKK agenda actually is and where you got this information.  Are you even aware of the (real) history of the KKK?   Can you please tell us politically how they could even be aligned with people who believe in a Constitutional Republic?  Exactly how does a Constitutional Republic ideology mesh with a National Socialist ideology that is held by the KKK?
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 17, 2017, 09:42:22 AM

DJT is who he is. I believe he is aligned with the KKK agenda, but that's my opinion. He's rocking the boat and it's going to capsize.

Since you 'believe' it to be so, I guess that makes it ok. Absent any shred of evidence, or even testimony. In fact, there is both evidence and testimony from him, and others that show he's been quite a friend to all minorities. given literally millions in support of minority businesses and advanced minority causes. If you can deflect all that, and embrace the MSM unrelenting message, you are a tool of the progs and no friend of this country.

Yes he is rocking the boat. The boat was nearly capsized a couple times recently and he's trying to drain out all the bilge water. You can get on board, and succeed, or you can wallow in your pity party, point fingers at everyone else, and blame others for your sorry state of affairs.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Little Joe on August 17, 2017, 10:50:11 AM
Please explain to us how you arrive at a conclusion the President is aligned with the KKK agenda?   Please cite facts.

The fact is that CNN, WAPO, NYT, MSNBC, etc have told the American public that DJT, and other conservatives are aligned with the KKK.  Then there are the 47% that want to believe that, so they repeat it on Facebook and other social media and  the rest if the pliable sheep hear all that and accept it as fact.

Trump could have done a better job of condemning that idiot in Charlottesville that drove into the crowd, but he was entirely correct about there being blame on both sides.

And for Jaybird, I am talking about the counter protesters (the idiots of the second part), that under the protection of the cops, were allowed, illegally, to tear down historic symbols and advance on the idiots of the first part while swinging clubs.   Those cops, under orders to stand-down, were directly responsible for allowing it to get out of hand.  Tearing down those symbols during a protest designed to prevent just exactly that is unequivocally provoking violence.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Steingar on August 17, 2017, 10:53:04 AM
According to folks hereabouts, if the fucking Nazis come marching into my neighborhood and I go out and yell at them, I'm just as bad as them.  According to folks here I have to meekly stay in my house and let Nazis, KKK members, white supremacists and bigots of all stripes do whatever they please wherever they want.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Little Joe on August 17, 2017, 10:56:46 AM
According to folks hereabouts, if the fucking Nazis come marching into my neighborhood and I go out and yell at them, I'm just as bad as them.  According to folks here I have to meekly stay in my house and let Nazis, KKK members, white supremacists and bigots of all stripes do whatever they please wherever they want.
Yes, you do have to allow them to do what they are doing, if what they are doing is legal.  Just like we had to listen to that stupid, so-called "reverend" that defiled the funerals of American heroes.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2017, 10:58:03 AM
According to folks hereabouts, if the fucking Nazis come marching into my neighborhood and I go out and yell at them, I'm just as bad as them.

 Please cite where that was stated?

  According to folks here I have to meekly stay in my house and let Nazis, KKK members, white supremacists and bigots of all stripes do whatever they please wherever they want.

 Again, I would be interested (as many here) to see that post making that statement.

 BTW, do you understand the Constitution and the role it plays in a Constitutional Republic?

 And while we're at it, Antifa was at that event.  Do you agree with Antifa, and do you hold them blameless for inciting violence?

 I'll await your reply.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Username on August 17, 2017, 11:02:21 AM
According to folks hereabouts, if the fucking Nazis come marching into my neighborhood and I go out and yell at them, I'm just as bad as them.  According to folks here I have to meekly stay in my house and let Nazis, KKK members, white supremacists and bigots of all stripes do whatever they please wherever they want.

Exactly.  That's their right.  However, if any group of idiots march and get no attention they will soon get bored and go home.  These fringe groups crave attention.  The feed on it.  Deny them attention and they will go back to their basements.  And I really don't care what they do there.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 17, 2017, 11:24:22 AM
According to folks hereabouts, if the fucking BLM, 99%er, Black Panther come marching into my neighborhood and I go out and yell at them, I'm just as bad as them.  According to folks here I have to meekly stay in my house and let BLM members, Black Panthers, Black and Islamic supremacists and bigots of all stripes do whatever they please wherever they want.

FIFY
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 17, 2017, 11:28:48 AM
Since you 'believe' it to be so, I guess that makes it ok. Absent any shred of evidence, or even testimony. In fact, there is both evidence and testimony from him, and others that show he's been quite a friend to all minorities. given literally millions in support of minority businesses and advanced minority causes. If you can deflect all that, and embrace the MSM unrelenting message, you are a tool of the progs and no friend of this country.

Yes he is rocking the boat. The boat was nearly capsized a couple times recently and he's trying to drain out all the bilge water. You can get on board, and succeed, or you can wallow in your pity party, point fingers at everyone else, and blame others for your sorry state of affairs.
Trump was elected precisely to "rock the boat".
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Number7 on August 17, 2017, 11:58:02 AM
According to folks hereabouts, if the fucking Nazis come marching into my neighborhood and I go out and yell at them, I'm just as bad as them.  According to folks here I have to meekly stay in my house and let Nazis, KKK members, white supremacists and bigots of all stripes do whatever they please wherever they want.

Are you deluded, or just making up stupid shit to try and hijack the discussion away from the events and who is responsible for the things that happened?
I realize you feel obligated to make up shit to please your Marxist masters, but even a ten year old could easily shred the quoted bullshit, without breaking a sweat.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Steingar on August 17, 2017, 01:14:10 PM
Trump was elected precisely to "rock the boat".

Trump was elected because of morons like you guys.  The one thing he said that was utterly correct.  He could walk out and shoot someone in the head on 5th avenue and you all would still defend him.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2017, 01:17:17 PM
Trump was elected because of morons like you guys.

 Ah, here we are back to the progressive mantra about irredeemable deplorables. 

 
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 17, 2017, 01:27:49 PM
Trump was elected because of morons like you guys.  The one thing he said that was utterly correct.  He could walk out and shoot someone in the head on 5th avenue and you all would still defend him.

Hey thanks. Morons synonym with deplorable. As for shooting someone on 5th avenue, I would not support that, unless of course it was in the consequence of defending himself from a rabid prog.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 17, 2017, 01:47:30 PM
Trump was elected because of morons like you guys.  The one thing he said that was utterly correct.  He could walk out and shoot someone in the head on 5th avenue and you all would still defend him.

Damned proud of voting for Trump. This country needs an enema.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Username on August 17, 2017, 02:44:30 PM
Damned proud of voting for Trump. This country needs an enema.

An enema of the people.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Anthony on August 17, 2017, 03:04:08 PM
An enema of the people.

The people are giving the enema.  An enema of liberal, progressive anti American policy. 
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Number7 on August 17, 2017, 04:27:43 PM
Trump was elected because of morons like you guys.  The one thing he said that was utterly correct.  He could walk out and shoot someone in the head on 5th avenue and you all would still defend him.

This from the charter member of the marxist club.

Obama committed treason, not just one, but over and over and you academic imbeciles fawned over his every lie.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 17, 2017, 05:00:01 PM
Trump was elected because of morons like you guys.  The one thing he said that was utterly correct.  He could walk out and shoot someone in the head on 5th avenue and you all would still defend him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FelzIz4zmgs

And the student shall learn. (maybe not)
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 17, 2017, 06:09:49 PM
Well, well, well.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/new-poll-majority-americans-unhappy-trumps-response-charlottesville/

Scroll down past all the Trump hate rhetoric. What do we fine? 62% of the population want the Confederate statues to remain as a symbol of our history. Only 27% want them removed. I should point out that this is a PBS, ultra-left source!

Seems the MSM isn't doing very well changing hearts and minds. But - it won't stop the one sided campaign.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 17, 2017, 07:00:05 PM
http://yournewswire.com/charlottesville-inside-job/amp/


Chew on this one a bit.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 17, 2017, 07:18:12 PM
http://yournewswire.com/charlottesville-inside-job/amp/


Chew on this one a bit.

I was thinking something like this, but decided that no organization could or would stoop so low. I was wrong. The alt-left and antifa are behind ALL of this. I certainly hope the FBI roots this out.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2017, 07:28:09 PM
I was thinking something like this, but decided that no organization could or would stoop so low. I was wrong. The alt-left and antifa are behind ALL of this. I certainly hope the FBI roots this out.

Seriously?   With all the other shit that has happened and the shit that is going on that the FBI has ignored, do you really think they will investigate?
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 17, 2017, 07:36:18 PM
Seriously?   With all the other shit that has happened and the shit that is going on that the FBI has ignored, do you really think they will investigate?

The prez is getting slammed for this mess. He should order a whole battalion of FBI down there. At least a couple of them might do their job. So, no - I'm not kidding. I want someone to uncover this, and that's the job of the FBI.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2017, 07:43:19 PM
The prez is getting slammed for this mess. He should order a whole battalion of FBI down there. At least a couple of them might do their job. So, no - I'm not kidding. I want someone to uncover this, and that's the job of the FBI.

With what we have seen, Barry has loaded the justice department, the FBI and most of the intelligence communities with progressive loyalist.   Just short of a massive firing spree I don't see them doing anything to uncover the snakes in this.

 The Deep State is real and draining the swamp will take massive pumps.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: invflatspin on August 17, 2017, 08:15:16 PM
This is where I would like to see Trump just decide not to run in 2020, and take the bull by the horns and clean house. Lets get all the shit out of there, and get some decent and honest people in power. If that means shutting down the FBI for a while, so be it. All pols in the past were worried about their re-election, and I'm afraid that now Trump has been given some bad advice that he will be un-electible if he does this, or that. To which I say 'eff that'. Do what needs to be done now.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 17, 2017, 08:52:22 PM
This is where I would like to see Trump just decide not to run in 2020, and take the bull by the horns and clean house. Lets get all the shit out of there, and get some decent and honest people in power. If that means shutting down the FBI for a while, so be it. All pols in the past were worried about their re-election, and I'm afraid that now Trump has been given some bad advice that he will be un-electible if he does this, or that. To which I say 'eff that'. Do what needs to be done now.
That's what neuters 'em all, re-election. Go Trump, fast and hard.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2017, 02:48:05 AM
This is where I would like to see Trump just decide not to run in 2020, and take the bull by the horns and clean house. Lets get all the shit out of there, and get some decent and honest people in power. If that means shutting down the FBI for a while, so be it. All pols in the past were worried about their re-election, and I'm afraid that now Trump has been given some bad advice that he will be un-electible if he does this, or that. To which I say 'eff that'. Do what needs to be done now.

If Trump gave any indication, any, that he plans on only one term, the establishment would simply delay, delay and delay (like they are attempting now) an changes he put forth.

 Understand, he is fighting a three front war.  On one side he has the establishment class (Republicans and democrats) that are swamp creatures and plan on staying in the swamp and feasting on your and my tax money.  On the other side are the alt left progressives that are butt hurt, their rigged election blew up in their face and are committed to remove Trump any way feasible, either legally or illegally.   Then you have the MSM who have aligned themselves with the alt left progressives and have become nothing more than a hate mongering propaganda machine of the left.

 It's crystal clear now to the Americans in the flyover country (those irredeemable deplorables) just how much the establishment, the MSM and the progressives hate them.   Time to stand up against them, stop the insanity and come election time clean house and drain the swamp.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 18, 2017, 04:53:18 AM
I think folks do not realize that Obama is still pulling a lot of the levers of power.  He has so many worshipers still in the Government that it only takes a phone call to put things into motion.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2017, 05:05:17 AM
I think folks do not realize that Obama is still pulling a lot of the levers of power.  He has so many worshipers still in the Government that it only takes a phone call to put things into motion.

Hussien Obama has weaponized the federal government.  One way he did this was to have appointed officials moved over to civil service so they couldn't be removed.

 The level of corruption is breath taking.  Keep in mind what Hussien Obama did in 8 years will take decades to unravel.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: nddons on August 18, 2017, 09:19:09 AM
According to folks hereabouts, if the fucking Nazis come marching into my neighborhood and I go out and yell at them, I'm just as bad as them.  According to folks here I have to meekly stay in my house and let Nazis, KKK members, white supremacists and bigots of all stripes do whatever they please wherever they want.
Only if you believe in freedom of speech, the First Amendment, and Voltaire's famous quote:  "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Sadly, you don't, along with the other anarchists who wish to silence people with which you disagree.

Good thing you don't teach civics.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: bflynn on August 18, 2017, 11:01:28 AM
A critical point to always remember....

In order for it to be free speech, then sometimes it must offend and infuriate you AND you must tolerate that. 

If not, then you are not in favor of free speech after all.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Number7 on August 18, 2017, 12:30:02 PM
Progressives and particularly academics progressives seem to hate free speech with a passion.

I suspect they are infuriated whenever someone uses facts and truth to toss aside their partisan bullshit, presented as factual.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2017, 12:37:59 PM
Progressives and particularly academics progressives seem to hate free speech with a passion.

I suspect they are infuriated whenever someone uses facts and truth to toss aside their partisan bullshit, presented as factual.

 Progressive ideology has it's roots in socialism and communism, and under those free speech is not tolerated.   Free Speech is a concept that developed in Conservatism.

 I've always found it a bit amusing that academics, journalist and artist for the most part like the idea of communism.  Funny thing is when a country goes to communist rule, the first people to be subjugated are academics, journalist and artist.

 Think about that.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: bflynn on August 18, 2017, 01:00:23 PM
Progressive ideology has it's roots in socialism and communism, and under those free speech is not tolerated.   Free Speech is a concept that developed in Conservatism.

 I've always found it a bit amusing that academics, journalist and artist for the most part like the idea of communism.  Funny thing is when a country goes to communist rule, the first people to be subjugated are academics, journalist and artist.

 Think about that.

I think the term you're looking for is "useful idiot".
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Number7 on August 18, 2017, 06:25:36 PM
I think the term you're looking for is "useful idiot".

 I love you man, but, useful is not a term I would ever apply to academic progressives. Those folks are about as useful as a vagina on Rosie. They just don't contribute to real problems, choosing to blather, lie, suppress individualism and attack anyone that refuses to drink their toxic kool-aid.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: bflynn on August 19, 2017, 02:41:39 AM
Useful does not describe their value to their country. A useful idiot is someone who supports one side of an ideological debate, but who is manipulated and held in contempt by the leaders of their faction or is unaware of the ultimate agenda driving the ideology to which they subscribe.  Generally a useful idiot naively believes they will be held in a position of esteem after the coming revolution when they are really just another prole.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Number7 on August 19, 2017, 07:54:19 AM
I knew that but wanted to have a little fun with your reply...
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: bflynn on August 19, 2017, 09:51:58 AM
I was wondering what was up....
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Anthony on August 21, 2017, 06:25:20 AM
Progressives and particularly academics progressives seem to hate free speech with a passion.

I suspect they are infuriated whenever someone uses facts and truth to toss aside their partisan bullshit, presented as factual.

Progressives only like free speech for what they agree, and just want to shut down, and outlaw what they don't like to hear.  It is very childish, and un-American. 
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Number7 on August 21, 2017, 07:11:29 AM
Progressives only like free speech for what they agree, and just want to shut down, and outlaw what they don't like to hear.  It is very childish, and un-American.

However, it is VERY Obama.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 21, 2017, 07:15:33 AM
"Progressivism" is 100% about control of the masses, starting with what is "acceptable" thought.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Username on August 22, 2017, 10:54:32 AM
I strongly object to roman numerals since it's widely known that the Romans kept slaves and even had slaves fight each other for their entertainment.  Roman numerals must be banished.

And while we're at it, the Oscar statue holds a sword.  Its design is "A stylized figure of a knight holding a crusader's sword standing on a reel of film".  How is that not promoting genocide?  We must ban all movies because the Oscar statue is racist.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Number7 on August 22, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
When are the tolerant leftists going to tear down the statues of Robert Bird??? I can;t believe they let that blasphemy exist in their carefully cultured, delusional world.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Little Joe on August 23, 2017, 05:07:10 AM
If your last name is "Lee" you better not name your kid "Robert", even if you are Asian:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-asian-american-announcer-from-virginia-football-game-because-has-confederate-generals-name.html
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 23, 2017, 07:50:33 AM
Totally fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 23, 2017, 12:11:51 PM
Dumb-assery abounds
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Anthony on August 24, 2017, 06:38:04 AM
If your last name is "Lee" you better not name your kid "Robert", even if you are Asian:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-asian-american-announcer-from-virginia-football-game-because-has-confederate-generals-name.html

ESPN like their parent Disney are a bunch of leftist, mentally challenged TWERPS.  Bob Iger is your typical NYC leftist (Commmunist).  It's OK if he's rich, but not anyone else.  This is an interesting read. 

http://theresurgent.com/espn-not-politically-biased-igers-in-wonderland/
Title: Re: Symbols of Hatred
Post by: Lucifer on August 25, 2017, 05:57:02 AM
A bit of history the progressives would rather you not know about.