PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Jim Logajan on December 02, 2016, 10:17:35 PM
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Diplomatic fictions are not to be trifled with, though easy to make fun of.
China's foreign minister, so far, seems to be less aghast than those who prognosticate on China's reaction:
"Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said the call between Taiwan's president and Trump was "just a small trick by Taiwan'' that he believed would not change US policy toward China, according to Hong Kong's Phoenix TV.
"The one-China policy is the cornerstone of the healthy development of China-US relations and we hope this political foundation will not be interfered with or damaged,'' Wang was quoted as saying."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/China-hopes-Trumps-call-with-Taiwan-leader-wont-damage-ties/articleshow/55766404.cms (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/China-hopes-Trumps-call-with-Taiwan-leader-wont-damage-ties/articleshow/55766404.cms)
Trump noted the shared diplomatic fiction in one his tweets:
"Interesting how the U.S. sells Taiwan billions of dollars of military equipment but I should not accept a congratulatory call."
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"diplomatic fiction"
hmmmmmmm.
:-)
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Yet nary a murmur when a sitting president collaborates with and pays off Ayatollahs sworn to destroy us.
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Expected response from China. Nothing out of the ordinary, except the media will use anything to discredit Trump. For me if China, Russia, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, etc don't like it then it was the RIGHT THING TO DO.
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Expected response from China. Nothing out of the ordinary, except the media will use anything in an attempt to discredit Trump. For me if China, Russia, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, etc don't like it then it was the RIGHT THING TO DO.
FTFY
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Expected response from China. Nothing out of the ordinary, except the media will use anything to discredit Trump. For me if China, Russia, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, etc don't like it then it was the RIGHT THING TO DO.
Even China cut him more slack than the press, telling.
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Even China cut him more slack than the press, telling.
Because our media is largely more COMMUNIST than the Communist Chinese.
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So my first reaction to this was that Trump isn't a politician and he didn't really care. But what I'm hearing today is that he knew exactly what the status quo was before he accepted the call.
So now I actually think it's rather brilliant. At some future point, China will want to insist on Trump clarifying his position with regards to Taiwan. Trump may or may not do it, but you can bet that if he does, he will require some kind of concession from China in order to do it. Essentially, he has put a bargaining chip into his pocket and he gets to play it. All the US has to do to execute our side of the bargaining chip is to keep doing what we already do.
Look for this pattern. He did the same thing with the Global Warming treaty a week or two ago. He says we will pull back. If nobody does anything about it, we will. But if someone wants to give us a reason not to, say better trade terms, then ok...maybe we'll keep on doing what the US doing anyway. But they'd better be some pretty awesome trade terms if we're going to accept limits from the international community.
I would bet "build the wall and make Mexico pay for it" was the same thing. It's on the table if someone wants to make a bargain for him not to do it.
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So my first reaction to this was that Trump isn't a politician and he didn't really care. But what I'm hearing today is that he knew exactly what the status quo was before he accepted the call.
So now I actually think it's rather brilliant. At some future point, China will want to insist on Trump clarifying his position with regards to Taiwan. Trump may or may not do it, but you can bet that if he does, he will require some kind of concession from China in order to do it. Essentially, he has put a bargaining chip into his pocket and he gets to play it. All the US has to do to execute our side of the bargaining chip is to keep doing what we already do.
Look for this pattern. He did the same thing with the Global Warming treaty a week or two ago. He says we will pull back. If nobody does anything about it, we will. But if someone wants to give us a reason not to, say better trade terms, then ok...maybe we'll keep on doing what the US doing anyway. But they'd better be some pretty awesome trade terms if we're going to accept limits from the international community.
I would bet "build the wall and make Mexico pay for it" was the same thing. It's on the table if someone wants to make a bargain for him not to do it.
Trump is a genius.
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So my first reaction to this was that Trump isn't a politician and he didn't really care. But what I'm hearing today is that he knew exactly what the status quo was before he accepted the call.
I have been hearing on PBS, MSNBC and other outlets today that Trump initiated the call. My understanding was that he accepted the call, but it is easier to criticize him if he is portrayed as having been the one that made the call. And of course, liberals believe these "fake" news sites.
I wonder which scenario is the true one?
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I have been hearing on PBS, MSNBC and other outlets today that Trump initiated the call. My understanding was that he accepted the call, but it is easier to criticize him if he is portrayed as having been the one that made the call. And of course, liberals believe these "fake" news sites.
I wonder which scenario is the true one?
Doesn't matter, the Chicoms don't dictate who a president speaks with, fuck them.
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Doesn't matter, the Chicoms don't dictate who a president speaks with, fuck them.
They have in the past. But fuck the past too.
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They have in the past. But fuck the past too.
New sheriff in town.
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New sheriff in town.
For once, and just barely, our Representative, Constitutional Republic WORKED. I often hear politicians who are mostly LAWYERS, and should know better, call our country a DEMOCRACY. It is NOT a Democracy. The media, teachers, college professors, and government bureaucrats also call our country a DEMOCRACY. They are very, very wrong. People need to be reminded of our system of governing, and what the Constitution really means in addition to the philosophy of strong states, and a WEAK FEDERAL GOVERNMENT who works for the states.
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For once, and just barely, our Representative, Constitutional Republic WORKED. I often hear politicians who are mostly LAWYERS, and should know better, call our country a DEMOCRACY. It is NOT a Democracy. The media, teachers, college professors, and government bureaucrats also call our country a DEMOCRACY. They are very, very wrong. People need to be reminded of our system of governing, and what the Constitution really means in addition to the philosophy of strong states, and a WEAK FEDERAL GOVERNMENT who works for the states.
Notice that countries that call themselves "Democratic" are anything but. (source: Wiki)
North Korea Democratic People's Republic of Korea (1948–present)
Democratic Republic of the Congo Democratic Republic of Congo (1966–1971, 1997–present)
São Tomé and Príncipe Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe (1975–present)
East Timor Democratic Republic of Timor-Leste (1975–present)
North Vietnam Democratic Republic of Vietnam (1945-1975)
Sri Lanka Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka (1978–present)
Ethiopia Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia (1991–present)
Nepal Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal (2008–present)
East Germany German Democratic Republic (1949–1990)
Laos Lao People's Democratic Republic (1975–present)
Algeria People's Democratic Republic of Algeria (1962–present)
People's Democratic Republic of Yemen People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (1967–1990)
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Is it worthwhile to point out that the president who started the policy toward Taiwan was Jimmy Carter?
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Is it worthwhile to point out that the president who started the policy toward Taiwan was Jimmy Carter?
Reference? Seems to have started here:
http://www.taiwandocuments.org/communique01.htm
Personally, who cares if the President-elect calls Taiwan or vice versa. Don't see the big hubbub at all.