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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Jaybird180 on June 01, 2016, 01:37:41 PM

Title: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: Jaybird180 on June 01, 2016, 01:37:41 PM
The comments are interesting.... Watch the video first; it is 2m:43s in length.
Title: Re: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: Little Joe on June 01, 2016, 01:43:06 PM
The comments are interesting.... Watch the video first; it is 2m:43s in length.
Must be another one of those private links.

Call me Schultz.
Title: Re: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 01, 2016, 02:22:28 PM
Great video!!!!   ???
Title: Re: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: FastEddieB on June 01, 2016, 02:29:39 PM
Great video!!!!   ???

Certainly not much to criticize!  8)
Title: Re: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: JeffDG on June 01, 2016, 02:47:28 PM
Certainly not much to criticize!  8)
Well, there is the whole "black people are being held down by whitey" message.
Title: Re: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on June 02, 2016, 11:32:31 AM
What, the video was removed by the White Police or something?  Can't believe I'm actually posting about something that is nothing. It's 2016 Syndrome.
Title: Re: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: Jaybird180 on June 02, 2016, 02:01:12 PM
Sorry folks.  I was working when I should have been posting

Let's see if this link works.

https://www.facebook.com/businessinsider/videos/10153521312779071/
Title: Re: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: Little Joe on June 02, 2016, 02:41:59 PM
Sorry folks.  I was working when I should have been posting

Let's see if this link works.

https://www.facebook.com/businessinsider/videos/10153521312779071/
Ok, I read it.  Now I see why the anti-trumpers like her.   ::)

I find it amazingly hard to believe that her story was true.

Paraphrased; a survey asked corporate CEOs if they would invest in the long term (eg: training, capital equipment, R&D etc) if it would take 5 to 10 years to make a very good return, but it would take a penny off the stock price today.  She said every one of them said no, they wouldn't do it because the stockholders would revolt.

I just don't believe that the story was as she said.  Perhaps if the return was more like 20 years and the hit to the stock price was substantial she would have gotten some "no"s, but even then it would not be unanimous.

I just think this is another case of her lying.
Title: Re: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 02, 2016, 06:09:42 PM
She got part of it right.  Corporations are under intense pressure to produce each and every quarter.  Where she missed is, it isn't corporate law creating it but her Wall Street buddies that are creating the pressure to improve quarter after quarter.
Title: Re: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: JeffDG on June 02, 2016, 07:27:34 PM
She got part of it right.  Corporations are under intense pressure to produce each and every quarter.  Where she missed is, it isn't corporate law creating it but her Wall Street buddies that are creating the pressure to improve quarter after quarter.
Actually, it's the owners of the companies...the shareholders.
Title: Re: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: bflynn on June 04, 2016, 01:38:52 PM
It's a bogus question. 

There's no such thing as a very good return 5 years out and asking the question as if there were is deceitful.  The uncertainty 5 years out is known by every business manager and is part of the CEO's calculations.  You don't know what's going to happen in 5 years, so the question being answered is really "would you sacrifice all of your returns today for the possibility of great returns in 5 years".  The answer is going to be no every time.

When I hear things like this I wonder if they're stupid or purposefully leading people astray.
Title: Re: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: Little Joe on June 07, 2016, 04:47:57 AM
The survey must have missed Amazon's Jeff Bezos:

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If you're leading a business leader, Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos has some advice: Figure out what will matter in 10 years, and build your strategy around that.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/07/jeff-bezos-what-every-business-leader-should-do.html
Title: Re: Hillary on Quarterly Capitalism
Post by: Anthony on June 07, 2016, 05:48:56 AM
Every corporation should do strategic, and long term planning based on trends seen in the marketplace.  However, that is a mine field.  Bezos (ultra far left, anti freedom, Progressive who owns the Washington Post) figured out that the internet would replace bricks and mortar retail sales, but more importantly he had the capital or acquired the capital to exploit that trend.  Even I saw that more than 20 years ago, but I had neither the capital, nor IT expertise to capitalize on it.