PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 09, 2021, 01:20:39 PM
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Recently a poster was asked to define "assault weapon".
Did I miss the response?
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Recently a poster was asked to define "assault weapon".
Did I miss the response?
Nope.
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Definitely did not.
It kind of like when you ask a liberal, what to put a number on someone's fair share for taxes.
It's always crickets.
Or perhaps why minimum wage shouldn't be $35 per hour.
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Liberals are brainless when you challenge them to define their bullshit.
Ask any liberal asshole what the “right” temperature should be, since they constantly babble about warming and cooling.
They never have an answer because they are programmed not educated.
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This was the definition in Feinstein’s 2019 bill. It’s pretty ridiculous as every rifle has a forward grip and a shroud around the barrel.
36) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means any of the
following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of
ammunition accepted:
``(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept
a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
``(i) A pistol grip.
``(ii) A forward grip.
``(iii) A folding, telescoping, or detachable
stock, or is otherwise foldable or adjustable in a
manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any
other dimension, or otherwise enhances the
concealability, of the weapon.
``(iv) A grenade launcher.
``(v) A barrel shroud.
``(vi) A threaded barrel.
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and, of course, for people using the term "assault weapon", the real challenge is to defend their definition.
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This was the definition in Feinstein’s 2019 bill. It’s pretty ridiculous as every rifle has a forward grip and a shroud around the barrel.
36) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means any of the
following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of
ammunition accepted:
``(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept
a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
``(i) A pistol grip.
``(ii) A forward grip.
``(iii) A folding, telescoping, or detachable
stock, or is otherwise foldable or adjustable in a
manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any
other dimension, or otherwise enhances the
concealability, of the weapon.
``(iv) A grenade launcher.
``(v) A barrel shroud.
``(vi) A threaded barrel.
She was wrong. If you look at the characteristics of an STG-44 then you will be a lot closer. Sturmgewhr 44 actually. Storm or assault weapon. Select fire, so FULL AUTO capable.
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Last I looked, no military unit has anything called an "assault weapon". I think the US military had exactly one rifle called an assault rifle.
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My understanding is that AR stands for ArmaLite Rifle.
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My understanding is that AR stands for ArmaLite Rifle.
You are correct.
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My understanding is that AR stands for ArmaLite Rifle.
You don't expect anti 2A Democrats to know that, do you?
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so many people confuse "semi-automatic" with "machine gun"
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so many people confuse "semi-automatic" with "machine gun"
That’s really the crux of the matter.
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A simple means of compliance - just permanently mount the magazine. Now it is no longer a weapon with a removable magazine, so it falls out of the top.
https://crossarmory.com/shop/ar-fixed-mag-bf-10-side-loader-kit-for-ar-15/#configuration
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A simple means of compliance - just permanently mount the magazine. Now it is no longer a weapon with a removable magazine, so it falls out of the top.
https://crossarmory.com/shop/ar-fixed-mag-bf-10-side-loader-kit-for-ar-15/#configuration
Which of course makes the rifle useless for target shooting.
and doesn't provide any value
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A simple means of compliance - just permanently mount the magazine. Now it is no longer a weapon with a removable magazine, so it falls out of the top.
https://crossarmory.com/shop/ar-fixed-mag-bf-10-side-loader-kit-for-ar-15/#configuration
How about we punish those that use guns illegally and commit violent crimes with them?
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How about we punish those that use guns illegally and commit violent crimes with them?
You mean use the existing 22,000 laws already on the books?
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You mean use the existing 22,000 laws already on the books?
Yes and stop the PLEA DEALS by Democrat, Big City DA's that put Violent FELONS back on the streets quickly and in large number to commit more violent crime using already ILLEGALLY possessed guns.
They (Elites, Democrats, Corporations, Government, Tech, Media, Education) want to totally control us hence the push to ban guns form the law abiding.
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- A pistol grip.
Can the anti-gun zealots explain why a "pistol grip" is dangerous?
- A forward grip.
Can the anti-gun zealots explain why a "forward grip" is dangerous?
- A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock, or is otherwise foldable or adjustable in a manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of the weapon.
Do anti-gun zealots understand that one size doesn't fit all?
(yeah, baby, my 42" service rifle is quite concealable rifle... ::) ::) ::) ::) )
- A grenade launcher.
hmmm
- A barrel shroud.
Can the anti-gun zealots explain why a "barrel shroud" is dangerous? (other than getting hot)
- A threaded barrel.
Can the anti-gun zealots explain why a "threaded barrel" is dangerous?
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- A pistol grip.
Can the anti-gun zealots explain why a "pistol grip" is dangerous?
- A forward grip.
Can the anti-gun zealots explain why a "forward grip" is dangerous?
- A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock, or is otherwise foldable or adjustable in a manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of the weapon.
Do anti-gun zealots understand that one size doesn't fit all?
(yeah, baby, my 42" service rifle is quite concealable rifle... ::) ::) ::) ::) )
- A grenade launcher.
hmmm
- A barrel shroud.
Can the anti-gun zealots explain why a "barrel shroud" is dangerous? (other than getting hot)
- A threaded barrel.
Can the anti-gun zealots explain why a "threaded barrel" is dangerous?
Because it's scary looking? Because they saw the Rambo movies?
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Which of course makes the rifle useless for target shooting.
and doesn't provide any value
How would it be useless for target shooting?
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How would it be useless for target shooting?
I use the service rifle for, well, service rifle matches (CMP/NRA). They include "rapid" fire strings with a mandatory mag change
two point to those that know why the shooters with civilian versions of the M16 load 2 and 8.
And since I answered your question, could you explain why there is any value in screwing the 100,000,000+ gun owners because of the few people that use guns illegally? And please don't try to justify something because of any good intention - look at the actual impact.
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could you explain why there is any value in screwing the 100,000,000+ gun owners because of the few people that use guns illegally? And please don't try to justify something because of any good intention - look at the actual impact.
Because strict gun laws will stop senseless violence. Just look at Chicago and New York City, and Washington DC.........
Oh wait....................
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I use the service rifle for, well, service rifle matches (CMP/NRA). They include "rapid" fire strings with a mandatory mag change
two point to those that know why the shooters with civilian versions of the M16 load 2 and 8.
And since I answered your question, could you explain why there is any value in screwing the 100,000,000+ gun owners because of the few people that use guns illegally? And please don't try to justify something because of any good intention - look at the actual impact.
I never said there was value in screwing people over, just interested in your reasoning why it would ruin target shooting. Sorry you got your panties twisted over a simple question.
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I never said there was value in screwing people over, just interested in your reasoning why it would ruin target shooting. Sorry you got your panties twisted over a simple question.
So, would you be OK with making all firearms single shot? No internal, nor external magazine?
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So, would you be OK with making all firearms single shot? No internal, nor external magazine?
Not at all. That would render half my firearm useless. You are acting like democracts. If someone asks a question, they must be you attacking you and they are wrong. So there is no confusion on my stance, here is my extremely cluttered reloading/gun maintenance table and gun safe to the right.
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Not at all. That would render half my firearm useless. You are acting like democracts. If someone asks a question, they must be you attacking you and they are wrong. So there is no confusion on my stance, here is my extremely cluttered reloading/gun maintenance table and gun safe to the right.
Acting like Democrats by ASKING A QUESTION for you to clarify your position? Sensitive aren't we? ::)
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Acting like Democrats by ASKING A QUESTION for you to clarify your position? Sensitive aren't we? ::)
I did clarify my position. I was just wondering why asking a question would make me for gun restrictions.
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I did clarify my position. I was just wondering why asking a question would make me for gun restrictions.
Sometimes it is really hard to detect the tone of a question.
Your question about how a fixed mag would be a problem was very similar to questions asked by some far-left anti-gun zealots. Sorry if I misunderstood your intent.
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Sometimes it is really hard to detect the tone of a question.
Your question about how a fixed mag would be a problem was very similar to questions asked by some far-left anti-gun zealots. Sorry if I misunderstood your intent.
No problem. You ever shoot at Camp Perry?
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You ever shoot at Camp Perry?
Nope. I might go some time...
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I did clarify my position. I was just wondering why asking a question would make me for gun restrictions.
I was speaking to your previous post. No worries, got it.
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According the the Dim up the street an assault weapon is anything that fires a bullet.
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so many people confuse "semi-automatic" with "machine gun"
Love when they write about a full semi-automatic assault weapon.
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Love when they write about a full semi-automatic assault weapon.
All the Left (media and democrats) have are lies. By saying "Fully" Semi Automatic, they convince the many weak minded out there that semi auto's actually fire fully automatic. They convince people dishonestly that they are more "dangerous" than other firearms.
Anyone can walk into a building with a bag full of six shot revolvers, empty and discard them for the next one and get the same effect as a thirty round magazine. So after they ban thirty round mags, ten will be next and so on until single shot then all firearms are banned, or taxed out of existence. Or they can tax the ammo and reloading components to death.
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- A pistol grip.
Can the anti-gun zealots explain why a "pistol grip" is dangerous?
- A forward grip.
Can the anti-gun zealots explain why a "forward grip" is dangerous?
- A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock, or is otherwise foldable or adjustable in a manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of the weapon.
Do anti-gun zealots understand that one size doesn't fit all?
(yeah, baby, my 42" service rifle is quite concealable rifle... ::) ::) ::) ::) )
- A grenade launcher.
hmmm
- A barrel shroud.
Can the anti-gun zealots explain why a "barrel shroud" is dangerous? (other than getting hot)
- A threaded barrel.
Can the anti-gun zealots explain why a "threaded barrel" is dangerous?
You are so dumb Bob. A pistol grip causes assault rifle owners to “spray bullets” just like this guy:
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I use the service rifle for, well, service rifle matches (CMP/NRA). They include "rapid" fire strings with a mandatory mag change
two point to those that know why the shooters with civilian versions of the M16 load 2 and 8.
And since I answered your question, could you explain why there is any value in screwing the 100,000,000+ gun owners because of the few people that use guns illegally? And please don't try to justify something because of any good intention - look at the actual impact.
Pump the breaks Bob. He’s one of us wrt guns and is a former US Marshall.
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Not at all. That would render half my firearm useless. You are acting like democracts. If someone asks a question, they must be you attacking you and they are wrong. So there is no confusion on my stance, here is my extremely cluttered reloading/gun maintenance table and gun safe to the right.
How do you like those legs for your workbench? I was looking at those at Northern Tool and Equipment to make a workbench.
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How do you like those legs for your workbench? I was looking at those at Northern Tool and Equipment to make a workbench.
They are great. Just cut wood to size and drill them in. I have them on my even more disoragnized work bench in my garage.
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I was speaking to your previous post. No worries, got it.
Glad we got that straightened out. Conservatives are acting like a bunch of cannibals these days.
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Glad we got that straightened out. Conservatives are acting like a bunch of cannibals these days.
Thank you Henry Clay. ;D
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Hmmm, how about a compromise. You can have an assault rifle, but you have to hand load ever round immediately before firing and you cannot have more than one magazine.
I mean, that would keep the criminals from shooting a lot of people, wouldn’t it?
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Hmmm, how about a compromise. You can have an assault rifle, but you have to hand load ever round immediately before firing and you cannot have more than one magazine.
I mean, that would keep the criminals from shooting a lot of people, wouldn’t it?
A compromise with evil will never include “You can have an assault rifle.”
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Hmmm, how about a compromise. You can have an assault rifle, but you have to hand load ever round immediately before firing and you cannot have more than one magazine.
I mean, that would keep the criminals from shooting a lot of people, wouldn’t it?
You are assuming criminals would abide by the compromise. The problem is that only honest people would abide by it and criminals would have an even bigger advantage.
How about this for a compromise. Prosecute people that use guns to commit a crime, whether it is an assault rifle or not.
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Reread as if the text is green.
People here so serious they take ridiculous suggestions as real.
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Reread as if the text is green.
People here so serious they take ridiculous suggestions as real.
We've seen so many completely ridiculous suggestions from DNC that it's sometimes hard to pick up on sarcasm...
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Reread as if the text is green.
People here so serious they take ridiculous suggestions as real.
There is so much ridiculous shit going on these days, it is difficult to distinguish humor from reality.
But you are on to something; we all need to keep our sense of humor. I firmly believe "This too shall pass". (or at least I hope it does). I'm willing to give Biden a chance, for two years*. Not that I think the GOP should cave in, but in two years, if the apocalypse happens, there is another election. I have heard "this party" or "that party" is dead too many times in my life to put much credence in it.
*If he makes it two years before the Dems promote Harris to #1.
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Xiden is done in the eyes of the DCP once he and the Ho are sworn in. Remember Nancy working on a bill last year to make it easier to remove a President under the 25th? And she said it would affect office holders after this president's term?
The DCP never wanted Xiden. This guy never got above 1% of the vote in his last two feeble attempts to become president. But they had to run Xiden because they didn't want to run a full blown radical that might fuck up the election. They needed a radical that they could control in the number two slot, hence why they ran another loser. And since they rigged the election outcome, they now have what they want.
Xiden is already filling his cabinent with Obama has beens, which is already pissing off the DCP. Oh, and the laptop from hell? The DCP controlled FBI has it.........it's going to come in handy for them.
And glad to see you're hopeful about Joe. BTW, go check out the gas prices, notice anything? That Bonanza is going to be pricey to fly with $10/gallon 100LL. Just saying.
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Xiden is done in the eyes of the DCP once he and the Ho are sworn in. Remember Nancy working on a bill last year to make it easier to remove a President under the 25th? And she said it would affect office holders after this president's term?
The DCP never wanted Xiden. This guy never got above 1% of the vote in his last two feeble attempts to become president. But they had to run Xiden because they didn't want to run a full blown radical that might fuck up the election. They needed a radical that they could control in the number two slot, hence why they ran another loser. And since they rigged the election outcome, they now have what they want.
Xiden is already filling his cabinent with Obama has beens, which is already pissing off the DCP. Oh, and the laptop from hell? The DCP controlled FBI has it.........it's going to come in handy for them.
And glad to see you're hopeful about Joe. BTW, go check out the gas prices, notice anything? That Bonanza is going to be pricey to fly with $10/gallon 100LL. Just saying.
Well written. They won’t push him out until 1/21/23 so Kammy can get 10 years. However, they don’t want her either so they may run someone more to their liking after Kammy finishes the 2 years.
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Xiden is done in the eyes of the DCP once he and the Ho are sworn in. Remember Nancy working on a bill last year to make it easier to remove a President under the 25th? And she said it would affect office holders after this president's term?
The DCP never wanted Xiden. This guy never got above 1% of the vote in his last two feeble attempts to become president. But they had to run Xiden because they didn't want to run a full blown radical that might fuck up the election. They needed a radical that they could control in the number two slot, hence why they ran another loser. And since they rigged the election outcome, they now have what they want.
Xiden is already filling his cabinent with Obama has beens, which is already pissing off the DCP. Oh, and the laptop from hell? The DCP controlled FBI has it.........it's going to come in handy for them.
And glad to see you're hopeful about Joe. BTW, go check out the gas prices, notice anything? That Bonanza is going to be pricey to fly with $10/gallon 100LL. Just saying.
I really like you much better when you express a thought rather than cutting and pasting.
Just sayin . . .
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Hmmm, how about a compromise. You can have an assault rifle, but you have to hand load ever round immediately before firing and you cannot have more than one magazine.
I mean, that would keep the criminals from shooting a lot of people, wouldn’t it?
Wasn't this I mean, that would keep the criminals from shooting a lot of people, wouldn’t it?
supposed to look like this I mean, that would keep the criminals from shooting a lot of people, wouldn’t it?
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I really like you much better when you express a thought rather than cutting and pasting.
Just sayin . . .
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There is so much ridiculous shit going on these days, it is difficult to distinguish humor from reality.
But you are on to something; we all need to keep our sense of humor. I firmly believe "This too shall pass". (or at least I hope it does). I'm willing to give Biden a chance, for two years*. Not that I think the GOP should cave in, but in two years, if the apocalypse happens, there is another election. I have heard "this party" or "that party" is dead too many times in my life to put much credence in it.
*If he makes it two years before the Dems promote Harris to #1.
I’m having a LOT of trouble having faith in 2022 because the election rigging issue is being completely denied and swept under the rug. They’re going to keep using Dominion and universal mail in ballots and crucify anyone that dares suggest these things make fraud easier.
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I’m having a LOT of trouble having faith in 2022 because the election rigging issue is being completely denied and swept under the rug. They’re going to keep using Dominion and universal mail in ballots and crucify anyone that dares suggest these things make fraud easier.
For the democrat hell holes and the states that have the RINO legislatures, yes. Expect to see the fraud ramped up and more DCP members get elected.
For the free states, expect to see voting get tighter and heavily regulated to prevent this. The warning shot has been fired, and the free states are going to prevent this.
There is definitely going to be a shift in states and representation. I highly suspect in the free states DCP to lose seats in 2022 only to pick them up in the blue shitholes.
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For the democrat hell holes and the states that have the RINO legislatures, yes. Expect to see the fraud ramped up and more DCP members get elected.
For the free states, expect to see voting get tighter and heavily regulated to prevent this. The warning shot has been fired, and the free states are going to prevent this.
There is definitely going to be a shift in states and representation. I highly suspect in the free states DCP to lose seats in 2022 only to pick them up in the blue shitholes.
I’m with Rush and am very concerned. I’ve been riding my state assemblyman and Senator hard to make sure they fix these voting fraud issues NOW.
However don’t forget that the GOP dominates state legislatures, and this is a census year.
-30 GOP controlled
-18 dem controlled
-2 split legislatures
I think the GOP needs to pretend they are the democrats of the 1970s and 1980s and jerrymander the fuck out of these states, which should help get back control of the House. I’m not sure that will happen before 2022 election, but I hope it does.
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I’m with Rush and am very concerned. I’ve been riding my state assemblyman and Senator hard to make sure they fix these voting fraud issues NOW.
However don’t forget that the GOP dominates state legislatures, and this is a census year.
-30 GOP controlled
-18 dem controlled
-2 split legislatures
I think the GOP needs to pretend they are the democrats of the 1970s and 1980s and jerrymander the fuck out of these states, which should help get back control of the House. I’m not sure that will happen before 2022 election, but I hope it does.
The problem is the establishment republicans and the RINO's. Just look at PA, GA, MI, WI and AZ along with NV. While the GOP may say they have "control", they don't. Just look how Stacy Abrams rolled right over the GOP controlled legislature. Look at how the RINO's looked the other way in PA.
Funny thing, last night the RNC sent me an email supposedly from Ronna McDaniel telling how great they were and all of their success with only more to come. And , oh, BTW, could I send them some money?
Let's just say when they opened the reply this morning their screen should be smoking. And I told them to never contact me again.
The GOP is dead but just don't realize it yet.