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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Dav8or on August 07, 2016, 09:26:29 PM

Title: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: Dav8or on August 07, 2016, 09:26:29 PM
They should admit they have lost the White House this time around to themselves. It is unlikely Trump will win, but even if he does by some fluke, they need to distance themselves from him. At this point they should spend all their time, money and effort on winning as many of the down ticket elections as possible. The country will need them those senators and representatives to put the brakes on Hillary's plans and should the nut job Trump win, they need to keep him in check too although the Democrats will likely have that covered.

Basically the Republicans need to ignore him and let him do his own thing while they work on the important work. They need to deflect attention away from Trump and towards the more sane part of the party. They need to lay plans for 2020 and hope they will be around by then.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: InTheSoup on August 07, 2016, 10:00:24 PM
He is going to win. This will all turn around.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: LevelWing on August 07, 2016, 11:56:10 PM
They should admit they have lost the White House this time around to themselves. It is unlikely Trump will win, but even if he does by some fluke, they need to distance themselves from him. At this point they should spend all their time, money and effort on winning as many of the down ticket elections as possible. The country will need them those senators and representatives to put the brakes on Hillary's plans and should the nut job Trump win, they need to keep him in check too although the Democrats will likely have that covered.

Basically the Republicans need to ignore him and let him do his own thing while they work on the important work. They need to deflect attention away from Trump and towards the more sane part of the party. They need to lay plans for 2020 and hope they will be around by then.
I don't disagree with this but I would also add that if the Republicans are going to focus on keeping the House and the Senate that they need to ensure the leadership stands up to Hillary and presents reasonable options and/or compromises when Hillary and the Democrats demand something insane. The Republicans have given into Obama too many times since he's been president. They need to be seen as strong but also presenting realistic solutions, not just being labeled the "party of no".
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: bflynn on August 08, 2016, 02:40:46 AM
I believe it is too early for Republican to quit.  There is 3 months still and they can quit Nov 9th. Hillary is just as big an embarassment as Trump, perhaps more.  The ultimate indictment of her is that she is just barely ahead of Trump.

Many of the state polls have not been updated recently and there are still surprises to come yet. Quitting against wuch a weak candidate is ill advised and I think could only be recommended by somone who believes Hillary to be a good candidate.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: JeffDG on August 08, 2016, 06:43:59 AM
He is going to win. This will all turn around.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: Steingar on August 08, 2016, 07:35:21 AM
I think the GOP is doing exactly what the OP suggested.  In most of the State races the candidates are trying to distance themselves from the Republican nominee, sometimes hysterically so.  But remember, the only disaster worse for the GOP than a Trump candidacy is a Trump Presidency.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: Number7 on August 08, 2016, 08:24:52 AM
With the lack of transparency in the communist main stream media, polls that show Hilary Clinton far ahead are just as dishonest as another black lives matter interview.
What scares me most in this election is Hilary Clinton winning.
What scares me second to most is Donald Trump winning.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: JeffDG on August 08, 2016, 09:00:08 AM
What scares me most in this election is Hilary Clinton winning.
What scares me second to most is Donald Trump winning.
Right now, literally any of the other Republican candidates would be crushing Hillary.  Hell, Jim Gilmore would be ahead by at least 10 points.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: LevelWing on August 08, 2016, 10:57:49 AM
There's someone who is entering the race for president, though I think it's probably too late at this point:

Quote from: BBC News
Former CIA agent Evan McMullin is set to announce his independent presidential bid as an alternative to Republican nominee Donald Trump, US media reports.

Mr McMullin, the chief policy director of the House Republican Conference, is backed by an anti-Trump group.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37012626

He's going to run into a host of issues, not the least of which will be getting onto the ballot and name recognition. I didn't know who this guy was until I looked him up. I haven't read much about him yet, either.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: JeffDG on August 08, 2016, 11:03:28 AM
There's someone who is entering the race for president, though I think it's probably too late at this point:

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37012626 (http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37012626)

He's going to run into a host of issues, not the least of which will be getting onto the ballot and name recognition. I didn't know who this guy was until I looked him up. I haven't read much about him yet, either.
The idea at this point is to run in a limited number of states with the goal of denying both Clinton and Trump an Electoral College majority, allowing some sanity to prevail before the House.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: LevelWing on August 08, 2016, 11:35:25 AM
The idea at this point is to run in a limited number of states with the goal of denying both Clinton and Trump an Electoral College majority, allowing some sanity to prevail before the House.
I understand, but it's just not that realistic at this point. Besides, the House would appoint an establishment person, which doesn't help the conservative movement, but at least denies both Clinton and Trump the White House. If this is going to happen, this guy had better start being funded today and he better start getting some national air time, which I don't see happening.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: Dav8or on August 08, 2016, 12:07:44 PM
There's someone who is entering the race for president, though I think it's probably too late at this point:

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37012626

He's going to run into a host of issues, not the least of which will be getting onto the ballot and name recognition. I didn't know who this guy was until I looked him up. I haven't read much about him yet, either.

OK! Great! Go Evan! I looked up as much as I could on the net on him and so far I see nothing I don't like.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: JeffDG on August 08, 2016, 12:32:55 PM
I understand, but it's just not that realistic at this point. Besides, the House would appoint an establishment person, which doesn't help the conservative movement, but at least denies both Clinton and Trump the White House. If this is going to happen, this guy had better start being funded today and he better start getting some national air time, which I don't see happening.
Read the 12th Amendment and get back to me.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: Mase on August 08, 2016, 12:34:04 PM
OK! Great! Go Evan! I looked up as much as I could on the net on him and so far I see nothing I don't like.

Well, he did work at Goldman Sachs for awhile...

http://www.gopusa.com/?p=13498?omhide=true (http://www.gopusa.com/?p=13498?omhide=true)
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: Lucifer on August 08, 2016, 03:32:44 PM
I understand, but it's just not that realistic at this point. Besides, the House would appoint an establishment person, which doesn't help the conservative movement, but at least denies both Clinton and Trump the White House. If this is going to happen, this guy had better start being funded today and he better start getting some national air time, which I don't see happening.

Since he is an unknown and can't get on several state ballots he's basically pissing in the wind.

This is just another "never Trump" wet dream.
Title: Re: What the Republicans should do at this point. (IMO)
Post by: Dav8or on August 08, 2016, 03:58:58 PM
Well, he did work at Goldman Sachs for awhile...

http://www.gopusa.com/?p=13498?omhide=true (http://www.gopusa.com/?p=13498?omhide=true)

That's OK. Lots of good people work at bad companies and tons of bad people work at good companies. If he owned Goldman Sachs, or was the CEO or something, I might think less of him then.